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Lucas-Souza_19 said: Its insane that Farnese and Schierke only look at Griffith kidnapping Casca and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING lol, back then Farnese would give her own life to defend Casca as we saw from whoever it was (even knowing that griffith is more powerful, she would at least try). Bizarre. Am I the only one who noticed this? The ease with which Griffith took Casca? Apart from that the pictures are so confusing that it is not even possible to know if Guts stopped the attack of his own volition so as not to hit Casca or was stopped by Femto's powers. Yeah, it's really not Berserk. Lets be honest here, thats a fic. You do know this was Miura's plan too, right? This would've happened the same way if he was still alive. Keep in mind this entire altercation in the last 3 chapters has been about 5 minutes in universe. Given that Shierke and Farnese got to bear witness to the astral tempest that is Griffith in astral form, all they can really do is tend to a downed Casca and try to watch Guts. And then the ground collapses, I mean, what more could they really do? |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| There's not a lot to say except that Griffith makes my blood boil and regardless of how much I think he's a great character I ultimately want nothing more than him to die which speaks of his character As per the chapter it's more beautiful stunning action We see Isidro and Serpico in this That's great to see and the rest of the chapter is Gigachad Guts struggling to fight Griffith who's pretty much godly and there's Zodd Great chapter |
| I hope Casca ends up killing Griffith (eventually). Skull Knight where you at though?? |
| Hmm... still not convinced of the route we're taking but it looks like we're jumping straight into the final arc, it seems. The art still has room to improve and will take us quite some time to fully immerse in I'm just glad we're getting chapters non-stop |
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| Just leave her alone you flaky bishounen bastard. You’ve harmed her enough already. Guts needs the mother of all power ups to cut Griffith. Normal BS armour is not enough |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I really thought Casca was going to redeem herself, I miss the old strong Casca. I don’t want the rest of the story to be Guts recusing her like a damsel. She’s suffered enough |
LunarPisces1Jul 10, 2022 3:33 PM
| A kidnapping, not again. All the odyssey to recover Casca's mind, all to make she suffer like this again! |
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| Its been a while since I got mad at a fictional character, I can´t believe it lmao. Now I just hope we don´t jump straight into the final arc, because it kinda seems like it, and I feel there has to be a little bit more to explore about the world than just kill Griffith (or Guts dying trying to do so). |
| To me it looked like Guts stopped his swing so he wouldn't hit Casca, and Griffith knew he would do this. I'm not sure if the blade actually touched Griffith, otherwise his hair—which is between his body and Guts' sword—would have been sliced. We saw in 366 that Guts manages to cut a strand of Griffith's hair, so it isn't invincible. I think Guts stopped his swing so he wouldn't cut Casca in half, otherwise he might have been able to hurt Griffith. |
Touka said: To me it looked like Guts stopped his swing so he wouldn't hit Casca, and Griffith knew he would do this. I'm not sure if the blade actually touched Griffith, otherwise his hair—which is between his body and Guts' sword—would have been sliced. We saw in 366 that Guts manages to cut a strand of Griffith's hair, so it isn't invincible. I think Guts stopped his swing so he wouldn't cut Casca in half, otherwise he might have been able to hurt Griffith. Remember, he is still in control (the armor didn't even activate), so if he did stop on his own, it was because he knew he *couldn't* hurt Griffith; he tried enough times by now to realize it. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
CrimsonCW said: if he did stop on his own, it was because he knew he *couldn't* hurt Griffith Why? I don't understand your reasoning here. Guts has been trying to kill Griffith basically the whole manga. You're saying he stopped because he suddenly realised he can't? I don't agree with that. Rickert was able to physically strike Griffith. Guts is prepared to die trying, but he won't harm Casca. He may have been taken aback by Griffith embracing her and stopped. I don't think he stopped because he realised the folly of his ways or anything like that. |
Touka said: CrimsonCW said: if he did stop on his own, it was because he knew he *couldn't* hurt Griffith Why? I don't understand your reasoning here. Guts has been trying to kill Griffith basically the whole manga. You're saying he stopped because he suddenly realised he can't? I don't agree with that. Rickert was able to physically strike Griffith. Guts is prepared to die trying, but he won't harm Casca. He may have been taken aback by Griffith embracing her and stopped. I don't think he stopped because he realised the folly of his ways or anything like that. The unfortunate thing with this new manga is that it's missing a lot of the context, and it's just the broad strokes. I really am unsure if Guts willingly stopped or just couldn't penetrate Griffith at all. His vision is failing and from his angle that we are explicitly shown, it's very unlikely Guts could've even seen Casca with Griffith. But I can't help but feel since he's NOT currently the Berserker, he would've held back a blow to Griffith he knew wouldn't work anyway (he's tried many times the last couple chapters) to not harm Casca. Remember, she's his priority now, more-so than revenge. Or so he's trying to convince himself. But if he just couldn't penetrate Griffith, then it contradicts the fact that Griffith's body didn't halt the blows at all before; they all simply just passed through. But then you get that huge shockwave at the end of the blow, that implies some sort of impact, not holding back... so neither one really adds up for me. So it's more likely Guts *did* stop on his own, but I feel like we're really missing a lot of the context of Miura's original plan for that scene. :( |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| Another good chapter! I really wanted to see a proper fight between Guts vs Zodd though. Maybe in the next chapter. |
| @CrimsonCW I supposed it's possible Griffith redirected (or deflected) Guts' blow like he did with the Skull Knight at the end of Falconia, and the earth shattering when Guts' sword touches the ground is the actual force of his swing, but then there's the tree losing all of it's leaves and a lot of weird energy going on which seems more connected to the quake than Guts. I agree that it isn't entirely clear. The way it seemed illustrated to me was that Guts is going in for a swing towards Griffith's back, then there's some sort of illustrated blow with the wind effect, indicting that Guts' sword was suddenly stopped, either by his own volition or Griffith's. However, the next page shows Griffith embracing Casca, with a bemused Guts. The page after that—the low angle with Guts' sword over Griffith's shoulder, with Griffith and Casca in the foreground—makes it seem like he stopped because it's clear the sword would have gone through Casca. After that he lowers his sword. Maybe if the Berserker armour had taken over, he wouldn't have stopped, which is why the author's made a point of retaining his normal self, which I found a bit odd given the situation. Who knows, hopefully we find out a bit more. It can go either way. I think the art is pretty good, obviously not Miura-level, but a fine replacement, however the destruction scenes are a little messy and there hasn't been much dialogue yet. |
Touka said: @CrimsonCW I supposed it's possible Griffith redirected (or deflected) Guts' blow like he did with the Skull Knight at the end of Falconia, and the earth shattering when Guts' sword touches the ground is the actual force of his swing, but then there's the tree losing all of it's leaves and a lot of weird energy going on which seems more connected to the quake than Guts. I agree that it isn't entirely clear. The way it seemed illustrated to me was that Guts is going in for a swing towards Griffith's back, then there's some sort of illustrated blow with the wind effect, indicting that Guts' sword was suddenly stopped, either by his own volition or Griffith's. However, the next page shows Griffith embracing Casca, with a bemused Guts. The page after that—the low angle with Guts' sword over Griffith's shoulder, with Griffith and Casca in the foreground—makes it seem like he stopped because it's clear the sword would have gone through Casca. After that he lowers his sword. Maybe if the Berserker armour had taken over, he wouldn't have stopped, which is why the author's made a point of retaining his normal self, which I found a bit odd given the situation. Who knows, hopefully we find out a bit more. It can go either way. I think the art is pretty good, obviously not Miura-level, but a fine replacement, however the destruction scenes are a little messy and there hasn't been much dialogue yet. Those are really good details you caught! And I pretty much agree! Oh, but if Guts was in Berserker mode, he 100% would never have stopped. He wouldn't have been able to kill Griffith regardless, but no one else would be standing. The fact people are complaining about that blows my mind. Like, Shierke can't assist him, nor the Moonlight Boy; if he actually let it activate now, story over, basically. There's nothing he could do past just kill everyone until he himself got killed. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| And there she goes. Another Casca rescue arc. I don't get why some people are mad though. There is a proper narrative reason for him taking her away. What do they expect, Casca to somehow defeat Griffith? This ain't Disney. |
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| Truly menacing. Elf Island is literally falling apart. Everything because of sole Griffith's presence on its ground. I'm genuinely worried about everyone from Guts' party, but also about every single citizen of this island. Moonchild seems to be something of a hindrance to Griffith, no? I guess in the next chapter we will see him successfully kidnapping Casca and bringing her to Falconia. Poor Casca. Not only she had to go through her trauma in the worst possible way, but it also seems that Griffith used his power to brainwash her, or at least hypnose to make her completely submissive to his will. All panels looked nice. Different to Miura-sensei's art style, but they looked very good. I miss insane amount of details typical for Kentarou Miura's style, but he was a genius and his apprentices can only try to find their own way in replicating their master's art style. On the other side, I find the way in which sweat droplets are drawn a little bit hmm... awkward? They look fine in most of cases. They just start looking strange when we see 'em hanging from a character's chin, haha. |
Adnash said: but it also seems that Griffith used his power to brainwash her, or at least hypnose to make her completely submissive to his will. Not sure what you're meaning with this. You know she's just unconscious, right? |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
CrimsonCW said: Not sure what you're meaning with this. You know she's just unconscious, right? That was my first thought, but after re-reading the chapter I started to doubt whether Casca becoming unconscious was really something completely confirmed, or perhaps the situation was ambiguous enough to assume other possibilities as well. Or perhaps I'm overthinking the whole scene after seeing new art style used right away to depict such important moment in the story. Next chapter or chapters will explain everything, I guess. |
| page 4 : now Serpico 's face and body look like a girl 's ones . page 7 : at 1st , i was expecting that the sword would pass through griffith and cut the 3 girls , lol . griffith acts like a toxic ex-boyfriend , lol : years ago , he broke the body and mind of casca . after her mind was broken , he didnt want her anymore , and he abandoned her , then he made love with the princess instead . now after guts fixed her mind , griffith suddenly wanted her again , and he came to take her back to his kingdom . i guess the next arc is : guts has to save casca , AGAIN . |
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| we've made it to the final fragment of casca's memories... the final obstacle before casca finally regains her memories... i may tear up a bit in these upcoming chapters |
| griffith really just can't give casca or guts a break can he.... my theory is that he's taking her to falconia that way when he transforms into the boy during full moons... he will still be in his kingdom |
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| No... Why did it have to be like this? Why did he have to take her away? |
| wow bro what does he want with casca now fr |
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Anime--Sensei said: right like why is no one talking about that. griffith actually protected her there what the fuck. he knew he keeps going through griff and yet even when casca was in the path he kept slicing. what the fuckThe fact that Guts would unintentionally cut through Casca if it meant killing Griffith is a big oof Casca in Falconia in a few chapters, hopefully |
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Faozan_ said: i really expect more from schierke in this situation, as you said she was deemed a threat so great griffith specially sent all including zodd to take down her master and her hometown/village. so how come shes like omg griffith scary !! bro comeon step up to the situation try and back up guts i mean this is crazy. ur just gonna sit down and scream ur ass off? get up and do smthn!Seeing as to how Griffith thought of Schierke's master as a threat big enough that he sent most of his APOSLTES, including ZODD to kill her, I thought the flower storm monarch, ruler of elves & elfhelm, would be really strong and would be able to put some resistance against griffith, but looks like in front of him everyone is powerless. Rip Casca she gets so much ptsd from guts can only imagine how much worse it would be with griffith |
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Reixaz said: youre exactly on point. i do not think guts willingly stopped his sword, especially cause he seemed shocked that his sword stopped. he was like 'what?' and confused that it stopped short. i also perceived that as griffith materializing his bodyLucas-Souza_19 said: Its insane that Farnese and Schierke only look at Griffith kidnapping Casca and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING lol, back then Farnese would give her own life to defend Casca as we saw from whoever it was (even knowing that griffith is more powerful, she would at least try). Bizarre. Am I the only one who noticed this? The ease with which Griffith took Casca? Apart from that the pictures are so confusing that it is not even possible to know if Guts stopped the attack of his own volition so as not to hit Casca or was stopped by Femto's powers. Yeah, it's really not Berserk. Lets be honest here, thats a fic. At first I thought it was Griffith who just blocked the attack, then I agreed with people in that Guts wouldn't hurt Caska so he probably held back at the last second, but after taking a look at the chapter, it seemed Guts was really shocked after seeing Griffith protect Caska, meaning he didn't hold back because he probably wasn't aware that Caska was there due to the heat of the moment, so I don't think it was that, now I'm on the opinion that Griffith materialised his body to stop Guts slash, if he's so powerful he should be able to control that at will. |
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| Maybe he took Casca just to torment Guts. Griffith knew how much she meant to Guts! |
KoniginElleOct 25, 2023 11:42 AM
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| Griffith a hall of fame menace to humanity cause what the actual fuck. Skull Knight come save Guts ass for the 50th time. |
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Reply to KoniginElle
Maybe he took Casca just to torment Guts. Griffith knew how much she meant to Guts!
| @KoniginElle Exactly or to brainwash her just to torment Guts even more. |
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I hope Casca ends up killing Griffith (eventually).
Skull Knight where you at though??
Skull Knight where you at though??
| @Zoldra0 Busy spending time with his wife let him cook in peace. |
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| No. Just no. Why does he have to interfere? |
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| Griffith kidnapped Casca!!! kekeke |
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