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Jan 25, 2019 3:59 PM
#51
I don’t. If they are willing to give it a shot I’ll recommend some shorter series. E.g. Erased, Anohana, maybe SAO, etc. As for movies the Ghibli stuff is always nice to introduce. Also most of the Satoshi Kon films. |
Jan 25, 2019 4:10 PM
#52
Okay so my previous post was kinda unhelpful if you're actually in a discussion wherein someone tells you "I hate anime, convince me otherwise". So I should probably post something different for such a situation. In this case: First, ask them why they hate anime. Make them spell out one or more specific reasons for their opinion. Only then can you come up with a proper strategy for convincing them otherwise. If they hate it because they think it's predominantly one or more specific genres, you can very easily show them a huge variety of things that don't fit that/those genre(s). Common stereotypes of anime include: * "it's all just action shows where they just get more and more powerful and have absurd fights" - show them something that's much more contemplative and about character relationships and emotions. * "it's all just sexual fanservice" - show them something that's not fanservice-heavy. * "it's all just kiddy shows" - show them something with a mature plot. preferably something that's also not fanservice-heavy, but your call depending on your audience. * "it's all just really niche stuff for geeky folks/Japanophiles/basement dwellers/etc." - inform them that anime movies have been nominated for Academy Awards, and have even one won. If they hate it because they just dislike specific tropes, show them stuff that doesn't fit those tropes. The fanservice thing I mentioned above is one example, but it's easy to find shows that: * don't involve squeaky cutesy girl voice (be ready to refer to either dub or sub as necessary!) * don't involve a boy protagonist on a journey to get stronger to defeat the big bad * don't involve a bland male protag at the center of a harem * don't involve absurdist slapstick comedy * don't involve absurdly oversized eyes * have art styles that emphasize various features, e.g. the nose, the mouth, etc. (yes, you can find recent anime where the girls actually have visible lips of a different color than their face tone. e.g. Alderamin on the Sky) * don't involve overly dramatized meme scenes If they hate it because they can't find anime they like that's available in English, then point them to the wide variety and wide availability of dubs these days. If they hate it because they think dubs are unfaithful/inaccurate to the original, then point them to the wide availability of subs. Your knowledge is a toolbox to draw upon! |
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Jan 25, 2019 4:33 PM
#53
tbh i just say "i like it and i have nice taste and you know it" and it works every time |
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Jan 25, 2019 4:47 PM
#54
Jan 26, 2019 1:15 AM
#55
If you want to make them absolutely hate anime, then keep trying to push it onto them. Sounds like you're probably doing a good job already. Why do you have so much trouble accepting that other people have different tastes and opinions to you? Being controlling like that isn't a good sign, dude. |
Jan 26, 2019 1:19 AM
#56
Viltas said: why do you care? they're narrow-minded by nature, So, anyone who doesn't like anime = "narrow minded"? That's an astounding amount of irony, and lack of self-awareness, to pack into just two short sentences. |
Jan 26, 2019 3:15 AM
#57
I don't. I recommended a show to a friend who wasn't sure about it and he loved it as it was so whacky without a sense of SJW crap that's get infested into western shows. |
Jan 26, 2019 3:15 AM
#58
I don't convince, i recommend watching anime. If they don't wanna watch those anime i recommended, is not my problem. I did my part, anyway. |
Jan 26, 2019 3:16 AM
#59
You don't. People are aloud to not like things you like. |
Jan 26, 2019 3:16 AM
#60
Try watching it with them, or maybeask them about the type of shows that they like and recommend them something based on their answer. Works pretty well for me. |
Jan 26, 2019 3:53 AM
#61
I don't care ,sometime people just hate different stuff and cant change there mind Take soccer millions of people LOVE it burn for it they even fight for it ,i think its stupid and a waste of time to watch 20 grown ass men chase after a damn ball And that is how it is sometimes you cant convince people because it don't speak to them the same way speaks to you ,so i don't waste my time lol, you can love your shit and i can love my shit ,then we are all winners |
Jan 26, 2019 5:09 AM
#62
[quote=Cloude] MADS_27 said: Sometimes, even you do convince them to watch something -and they like it- that would be it. They wouldn't go for another. This is very true. Even if you succeed in showing them an anime they like, they will not watch another one. One of my closest friends does not like anime, but I made him watch death note and despite liking it he still believes most animes are garbage and that there are very few exceptions. I can kind of agree that majority of anime seems cringe, I can see why that is with characters looking like children but acting like adults lol I remember showing one friend magi, she got disturbed because aladin was playing with boobs and he looks like a child LOL Exactly. Almost all my friends are like that. One likes death note, one likes AoT, and the other likes Haikyuu. But all of them didn't bother with the rest of the animes, and whenever they see me watching one, they get 'that look'; like they're sighing inside their heads. |
Jan 26, 2019 5:11 AM
#63
I don't, because I don't want those fucking normies in my secret anime club. |
Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
Jan 26, 2019 5:15 AM
#64
Watching anime is a niche thing so only a one person's opinion won't be enough to make someone watch anime. |
Jan 26, 2019 5:16 AM
#65
tell them that pokemon yo gi oh and dbz are anime, most of the people watched them when they were kids, if its a girl just tell her to watch free, worked for someone i know, i mean i watched elfen lied when i was 10 and dont dislike it lol edit: just check what people watched the most in recent years. OPM for example, its even on netflix. Violet evergarden and that stuff. People are more likely to watch anime on a platform they know before they go full jack sparrow |
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Jan 26, 2019 5:35 AM
#66
I don't, since forcing people to do things is a horrible idea. |
Jan 26, 2019 5:49 AM
#67
HououinKyouma123 said: Shingeki no Kyojin works on anyone. Why would you show them a bad anime? So bland, generic and filled with plot holes that just make no sense whatsoever. |
Jan 26, 2019 6:24 AM
#68
Sasori_Nagashi said: not every person overanalyses anime that entertains u with literally every episode, do you really think someone who watches anime for the first time is gonna be an amateur MAL reviewer like most of the people here?HououinKyouma123 said: Shingeki no Kyojin works on anyone. Why would you show them a bad anime? So bland, generic and filled with plot holes that just make no sense whatsoever. Attack on Titan cant be generic if its the first anime u are going to see, so gtfo with your hate from this thread |
Jan 26, 2019 6:34 AM
#69
HisokaxMeruem said: Sasori_Nagashi said: not every person overanalyses anime that entertains u with literally every episode, do you really think someone who watches anime for the first time is gonna be an amateur MAL reviewer like most of the people here?HououinKyouma123 said: Shingeki no Kyojin works on anyone. Why would you show them a bad anime? So bland, generic and filled with plot holes that just make no sense whatsoever. Attack on Titan cant be generic if its the first anime u are going to see, so gtfo with your hate from this thread Someone is an angry little guy. >Overanalyses You mean expects it to actually be good and not just mindlessly consume media and think everything ever is good for just existing? You should probably not be calling others hateful for disliking your beloved Japanese Cartoon then follow it up with insults and demands though. Comes across as hilariously hypocritical. |
Jan 26, 2019 6:37 AM
#70
Ask them for their favorite movies and series in general, then find similar anime and recommend them (only if they are dubbed in their native language otherwise they will feel alienated), if that doesn't work there is no hope. |
No, this isn't my signature. |
Jan 26, 2019 6:38 AM
#71
You don't have to. Some of that friends of yours might even actually watch anime secretely but considering their image.. lol XD Why do I say this? I have a (ex?) friend who is like that. Deliberately saying she hates anime in front of her bf because she was shy with her image, lol XD |
I'm starting to get embarrassed by my own forum signature line.. XD |
Jan 26, 2019 6:43 AM
#72
Sasori_Nagashi said: HisokaxMeruem said: Sasori_Nagashi said: HououinKyouma123 said: Shingeki no Kyojin works on anyone. Why would you show them a bad anime? So bland, generic and filled with plot holes that just make no sense whatsoever. Attack on Titan cant be generic if its the first anime u are going to see, so gtfo with your hate from this thread Someone is an angry little guy. >Overanalyses You mean expects it to actually be good and not just mindlessly consume media and think everything ever is good for just existing? You should probably not be calling others hateful for disliking your beloved Japanese Cartoon then follow it up with insults and demands though. Comes across as hilariously hypocritical. you can say what u want there is a reason these anime are popular, because they are good and people like them, so beginners will most likely enjoy them, some people i know started with SAO and loved it, even went to the movies in cinema, idc about what other people think, i didnt even like the last season of attack on titan that much, but this thread isnt here for other people to shit on some anime because they dislike them and yes, even if someone consumes media mindlessly, whats the big deal with it? if they like it let them. I bet even you watched the first season even tho u obviously dont like it just to give it a score :) |
Jan 26, 2019 6:59 AM
#73
The more you are annoying them, the more they will hate it. Just let them be. |
Jan 26, 2019 7:01 AM
#74
I praise about the anime more than it deserves or I make any amv and post it on youtube to show them the greatness that lies within the anime and that's how I do it haha |
Jan 26, 2019 7:07 AM
#75
Just suggest Hellsing Ultimate and if they ask what its about. Just say "A vampire has a war against the KKK and Nazis". It'll work 99% of the time. |
Jan 26, 2019 7:52 AM
#76
rsc-pl said: Just don't do it. Apollo18 said: Viltas said: why do you care? they're narrow-minded by nature, So, anyone who doesn't like anime = "narrow minded"? If someone hate on anime and yet never watched anything then yup, it's like a textbook example/definition of someone narrow minded. lolwut? How about this hot take: If you dismiss everyone who doesn't conform to your personal tastes as "closed minded", and expect everyone else to waste their time trying shit they already know they have zero interest in, that means that *YOU* are the one being "closed-minded". And also obnoxious, and controlling. Different people have different interests, and you don't have to sit through a balloon fetish AMSR video, or try out naked folk dancing, to know you're not interested in balloon-fetish AMSR videos or naked folk dancing. By your logic no-ones ever allowed to say "nah, not interested. I'm not into that stuff" about literally anything. |
Jan 26, 2019 7:57 AM
#77
Jan 26, 2019 8:03 AM
#78
Why do you need to convince people who hate anime to watch anime? Are you a sadist? |
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Jan 26, 2019 8:05 AM
#79
I'd show them an episode of death note in English dub. Then they will be hooked. |
Jan 26, 2019 8:19 AM
#80
Viltas said: Apollo18 said: Viltas said: why do you care? they're narrow-minded by nature, So, anyone who doesn't like anime = "narrow minded"? That's an astounding amount of irony, and lack of self-awareness, to pack into just two short sentences. Reading comprehension gets an F from me, prepare for summer school. :^) It's 2019- literally everyone has seen enough anime to know if they want to sit through a whole movie/series or not. Dismissing everyone who doesn't share your personal interests as "just being closed minded", is *actually* being closed-minded. Not everyone shares your personal interests, and that isn't the same as "just being closed-minded" "If you say you don't like my DIY-beatbox-dubstep-black-metal, but you haven't sat through a whole album, you're just being closed-minded!!" lol, no. Thats not how it works. This is why anime fans have the reputation they have- because so many anime fans expect the world to revolve around their personal interests and tastes for some bizarre reason. |
Jan 26, 2019 9:38 AM
#81
The most important thing is not to act all hostile towards them or try and pressure them into watching it since that'll likely make them even more reluctant to check the medium out. That being said, the best approach as far as I'm concerned would be to find out what genres of films, games, books etc they like and casually suggest an anime in the same vein (for example, if they like slick, elaborate psychological thrillers like Hannibal they may enjoy Monster). |
Take care of yourself |
Jan 26, 2019 9:55 AM
#82
You just should not do anything if they don't like anime sometimes its impossible to change that if you have to suggest something suggest something similar to the TV or movies the person already likes. |
Jan 26, 2019 9:58 AM
#83
rsc-pl said: Just don't do it. Apollo18 said: Viltas said: why do you care? they're narrow-minded by nature, So, anyone who doesn't like anime = "narrow minded"? If someone hate on anime and yet never watched anything then yup, it's like a textbook example/definition of someone narrow minded. your sig is also a textbook example tho to be fair. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Jan 26, 2019 9:59 AM
#84
kayyylerbbb said: I don't convince them I stay a couple of miles away from them. I’ve came across sooooo many people who hate on anime either because they had bad first anime impressions of them or simply cause they just hate on them for no legitimate reasons.... and no matter how much I try to convince these people to give anime a chance and watch something (that I thought they might like), they will be super against it.... Any idea why? And any solutions? |
Jan 26, 2019 10:02 AM
#85
You don't. If they're close-minded expect them not to cater to your opinion. With how strong their pre-conceived opinion is, it gets much harder. I'd say, the only way that you could convince them to remotely appreciate the medium is just pray that they accidentally stumble upon a show that interests them, I'd say that's how most people who has this strong pre-conceived hate gets proven otherwise. Sasori_Nagashi said: oh shit. the usual spout nonsense without anything to back it up criticismHououinKyouma123 said: Shingeki no Kyojin works on anyone. Why would you show them a bad anime? So bland, generic and filled with plot holes that just make no sense whatsoever. |
Jan 26, 2019 10:15 AM
#86
I don't try to convince anyone to watch anime. If I know they aren't into it, I won't talk about it with them. If they hate it, it means they either tried it at some point and decided it's not for them (fair enough), or they have some kind of bias against it, for whatever reason. There's no point in trying to convince anyone who claims to hate something that they should try it. |
Jan 26, 2019 10:41 AM
#87
rsc-pl said: Apollo18 said: rsc-pl said: Just don't do it. Apollo18 said: Viltas said: why do you care? they're narrow-minded by nature, So, anyone who doesn't like anime = "narrow minded"? If someone hate on anime and yet never watched anything then yup, it's like a textbook example/definition of someone narrow minded. lolwut? How about this hot take: If you dismiss everyone who doesn't conform to your personal tastes as "closed minded", and expect everyone else to waste their time trying shit they already know they have zero interest in, that means that *YOU* are the one being "closed-minded". And also obnoxious, and controlling. Different people have different interests, and you don't have to sit through a balloon fetish AMSR video, or try out naked folk dancing, to know you're not interested in balloon-fetish AMSR videos or naked folk dancing. By your logic no-ones ever allowed to say "nah, not interested. I'm not into that stuff" about literally anything. What are you talking about? Can you even read? No, not really. Dub voices are always fake exactly like cover bands will always stay fake. I don't see any point in arguing about dubs in this thread, so let's leave it here. >can't understand plain english >decides that means that OTHERS can't read. lol. Don't worry about it. Self awareness can't be everyone's strong suit, I guess. |
Jan 26, 2019 10:46 AM
#88
rsc-pl said: Apollo18 said: rsc-pl said: Just don't do it. Apollo18 said: Viltas said: why do you care? they're narrow-minded by nature, So, anyone who doesn't like anime = "narrow minded"? If someone hate on anime and yet never watched anything then yup, it's like a textbook example/definition of someone narrow minded. lolwut? How about this hot take: If you dismiss everyone who doesn't conform to your personal tastes as "closed minded", and expect everyone else to waste their time trying shit they already know they have zero interest in, that means that *YOU* are the one being "closed-minded". And also obnoxious, and controlling. Different people have different interests, and you don't have to sit through a balloon fetish AMSR video, or try out naked folk dancing, to know you're not interested in balloon-fetish AMSR videos or naked folk dancing. By your logic no-ones ever allowed to say "nah, not interested. I'm not into that stuff" about literally anything. What are you talking about? Can you even read? No, not really. Dub voices are always fake exactly like cover bands will always stay fake or Chinese bootleg figurines will always stay fake. I don't see any point in arguing about dubs in this thread, so let's leave it here. Stay in denial with your prejudiced generalizations all you want. I can't change your mind, but I'll make sure everyone sees your hypocrisy and just laughs when you try to call others out for being narrow-minded because you simply don't have the right to look down on others with that attitude. I don't even care about dubs very much, but I can't stand openly displayed hypocrisy like that. It's just ugly. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Jan 26, 2019 10:49 AM
#89
If you can't convince them the first time don't try to force them it will just make them not want to watch even more. |
:) |
Jan 26, 2019 11:14 AM
#90
kayyylerbbb said: I’ve came across sooooo many people who hate on anime either because they had bad first anime impressions of them or simply cause they just hate on them for no legitimate reasons.... and no matter how much I try to convince these people to give anime a chance and watch something (that I thought they might like), they will be super against it.... Any idea why? And any solutions? You have to force them to, sounds weird but it's like that for a lot of things. I'm not going to willingly watch a game of soccer all the way through if there is no catch or something to go along with it. Make a bet or something and bet they have to watch x amount of episodes. My brother didn't want to watch it at first, but I kept asking him over and over and he eventually sat down and watched it. Now he wants to be an animator to do stuff like anime and he will blare anime music out loud so everyone can hear. It's cringy and funny at the same time, but it's a drastic change. |
Jan 26, 2019 2:15 PM
#91
i use to be one of those people. just let them do their own thing. dont force people to do stuff they dont want |
Jan 26, 2019 2:18 PM
#92
So... you know when people say you have to try it first before you give an opinion for a food or some other thing? For this example lets go with food. You say try a food in a menu of foods the person has never seen before, the person tries it, and lets say that the food that they ate didn't suit their tastes and the person hated it. It's not like there is nothing other than the food that she just ate on the menu, in fact there is a whole variety. It's the same thing you have to go looking for what you like. If the person still doesn't want to watch anime, if the person is a girl show her some Yaoi shows and if it's a boy show him some Yuri |
RedsmanJan 26, 2019 2:22 PM
Jan 26, 2019 2:19 PM
#93
Jan 26, 2019 2:29 PM
#94
I tend to think that is good to slow down and show people things they can understand and have fun with, something like Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Cowboy Bebop, Baccano and Death Note; popular shows that are great and easy to get along with. Don't expect people to appreciate things that are essentially extremely niched and you should be free from the frustation of failing as welll |
GuidSMRJan 26, 2019 2:40 PM
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Jan 26, 2019 3:20 PM
#95
If he/she dont understand= dumb, its waste of time ignore them, its hard to explain hater what difference between anime and just cartoon. I just say from expreience, one day I met one gir, she ask me what I watch before sleep/ or just in holidays movies/series I told mostly anime, and she just says: Anime? omg you are kid and bla bla bla...... force to watch something= NO THX, tell about raitings like 18+ 17+ 12+ =no no no its fake (facepalm) about 18+ she says its Hentai. But if you are still trying to explain him/her, best way is take her to ppl group IRL (anime group) where there are several people of old age, and let her/him understand, get to know other people's opinions more correctly. |
Jan 26, 2019 4:48 PM
#96
Jan 26, 2019 4:58 PM
#97
I don't enjoy it when people try to force their likes on me so I just don't do it back. I'm not offended if someone hates anime. |
Jan 26, 2019 5:00 PM
#98
So, you invite them over saying you want to show them a show. Then, you pull out all their favourite snacks as bribes. Now, you should have the show all set up before hand and now that you’re all settled, play to your unsuspecting victim. I’m assuming they’re your friends so if they’re already over, might as well. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ |
Jan 26, 2019 5:03 PM
#99
i don't. anime isn't for everyone and if they say it's not their thing or they dislike it then cool i just leave it be |
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