rederoin said: yeah sure..if stalker said that Symphogear gonna sell 18.2k..then Symphogear definitely gonna sell 18.2kWell, its time to stop including amazong editions in the estimates, I suppose. Next week stalker estimates(amazon edition included), 18.2k Symphogear GX *7.4k Prison School *5.9k GATE *3.2k Dandelion *2.9k Ushio to Tora *1.9k Akagami no Shirayuki-hime *1.6k Sora ga Seiyuu *1.4k Ranpo Kitan *0.8k Aoharu x Kikanjuu Roughly cut all of these in half to keep your hopes low. |
| charlotte totally deserve its spot... im happy for seeing it on top |
rederoin said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Now people see that Stalker is bullshit and Aniplex always clean sweeps every season. Your show ain't sell shit if it's not by them. That said those are some horrific numbers for the latest iDOLM@STER (I actually find this one really strange as it was estimated at like 7,000 and has more than cleared that number before) and everything still did pretty badly. Everything has to come in below the Aniplex shows though naturally so Overload is way overestimated. Such is the anime industry. If you exclude the amazon editions, it was rather accurate. Nice try, but stalker is still usefull. Obviously not for Charlotte. Won't surprise me if GATE proves to be the only other underestimated series this season and everything is is overestimated but considering that's Warner Bros with A-1 just doing the animation maybe it's not susceptible to the usual way it goes. rageiX said: charlotte totally deserve its spot... im happy for seeing it on top Oh my god these comments are so rote and predictable. It just never fails on MAL. MAGiC_DREAMBOX said: Fab to see Charlotte selling well, hugely enjoyable and I did not expect the direction it took. Yeah I don't think anybody did including the person who wrote it lol |
| People seem to misunderstand many things. Madhouse or many studios, can't decide to make another season of an anime or not. It's the producer to do that. PRoducer gives studio the money, ask them to make the anime as the best as they can, if it done right, more trust to that studio. If it done wrong, no work for that studio. And there is a special case, when we have some studio that has their own producer. Or to say it right, the producer is the studio's family. The owner of Madhouse's owner is also VAP's owner, which means VAP is Madhouse uncle. BAsically Madhouse can control the sale, the source and everything, if the producer is VAP. Yeah they take all the risk and oppotunity themselves. Too bad MAdhouse-VAP anime in 2010s are kinda low: 3,331 Chihayafuru 2 2,831 Chihayafuru 1,068 Death Parade 769 Ore Monogatari!! 839 Kiseijuu Sei no Kakuritsu 519 Hajime no Ippo Rising 0 Kaiji: Gyakkyou Burai Kaiji: Hakairoku Hen 0 Rainbow malki said: well..except for chihayafuru..none of those got a sequels (some of them didn't need a sequel though)..anyway..I was talking especially about Mahouka which sold about 13k..they shoul have announced a S2 already... I got no idea. It's by Aniplex, and they have so much anime to adapt, but I don't think this is the reason. Aniplex only has 1 anime made by Madhouse, so I guess there's a problem between Aniplex and Nippon TV. I guess Aniplex is finding another studio, IMS may be ? |
| Also for the LOL, its ok for Overload, they are top 5 of the season (currently) Top 5 Sellers of each season (Vol 1) Winter 41,069 8 Idolmaster Cinderella Girls 2015/04/23 BD/DVD 24,639 9 Kantai Collection 2015/03/27 BD/DVD 22,829 6 Kuroko no Basuke 3rd Season 2015/04/24 BD/DVD 12,962 11 Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata 2015/03/04 BD/DVD 11,621 12 Jojo no Kimyou na Bouken Stardust Crusaders: Egypt-hen 2015/04/22 BD/DVD Spring 60,465 6 Uta no Prince-sama Maji Love Revolutions 2015/07/01 BD/DVD 22,116 10 Kekkai Sensen 2015/06/17 BD/DVD 13,754 6 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku 2015/06/24 BD/DVD 10,295 9 Hibike! Euphonium 2015/06/17 BD/DVD 9,862 5 Show By Rock!! 2015/06/24 BD/DVD Summer *7,406 01/07 Charlotte *6,397 01/07 WORKING！！！ *5,437 01/06 Non Non Biyori s2 *5,193 01/06 Monster Musume *4,724 01/06 Overlord |
| Rather poor sales for a rather poor season. Meh shows selling meh. Not even the trashy fanservice shows with their dedicated fanbases such as To love ru or fate kaleid are holding up. Let's aim for below 2k next time around~ Charlotte was the most entertaining trainwreck I had seen in a while. Unintentional comedy gold. I wonder if Maeda expected anyone to take it seriously when he wrote that. He might've been like "I wonder how far I can take this bullcrap till people notice" |
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moonnya said: Also for the LOL, its ok for Overload, they are top 5 of the season (currently) Top 5 Sellers of each season (Vol 1) Winter 41,069 8 Idolmaster Cinderella Girls 2015/04/23 BD/DVD 24,639 9 Kantai Collection 2015/03/27 BD/DVD 22,829 6 Kuroko no Basuke 3rd Season 2015/04/24 BD/DVD 12,962 11 Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata 2015/03/04 BD/DVD 11,621 12 Jojo no Kimyou na Bouken Stardust Crusaders: Egypt-hen 2015/04/22 BD/DVD Spring 60,465 6 Uta no Prince-sama Maji Love Revolutions 2015/07/01 BD/DVD 22,116 10 Kekkai Sensen 2015/06/17 BD/DVD 13,754 6 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku 2015/06/24 BD/DVD 10,295 9 Hibike! Euphonium 2015/06/17 BD/DVD 9,862 5 Show By Rock!! 2015/06/24 BD/DVD Summer *7,406 01/07 Charlotte *6,397 01/07 WORKING！！！ *5,437 01/06 Non Non Biyori s2 *5,193 01/06 Monster Musume *4,724 01/06 Overlord iDOLM@STER should read BD/DVD/G4U |
rederoin said: BTW..if some studio wants to adapt some manga or LN..should they contact the author or the publishers..or both..? and who decides in which channel they will air the anime..?Once again, unless the studio owns the franchise, its irrelevant to it getting a 2nd season. How many times do I have to repeat this? |
malki said: rederoin said: BTW..if some studio wants to adapt some manga or LN..should they contact the author or the publishers..or both..? and who decides in which channel they will air the anime..?Once again, unless the studio owns the franchise, its irrelevant to it getting a 2nd season. How many times do I have to repeat this? They can become a producer like Kyoani did. Or get a better owner. Anyway since they want to adapt something, they have to pay extra money to the work so they need some money source first. |
| YES! Shigatsu. Sigh, Overlord sell less than expected. I guess no Gakkougurashi sequel too? |
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rederoin said: Well, its time to stop including amazong editions in the estimates, I suppose. Next week stalker estimates(amazon edition included), *2.9k Ushio to Tora *1.9k Akagami no Shirayuki-hime Roughly cut all of these in half to keep your hopes low. I hope Akagami no Shirayuki-hime does better then that, really hope we get more of this later next year or in 2017 Also Overlord seemed to sell well, heck just look at the boost the LN got from the anime, so someone is very happy over that.. Does anyone know how Jitsu wa Watashi wa did? And what the major F, Gangsta only sold that much, bummer ALSO DAMN SERAPH IS DOING SO BADLY, WONDER IF THE SECOND HALF WILL IMPROVE THAT. |
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ios said: Ame_Sama said: Madhouse standards are not that high, in the last 5 years they only had 3 series that sold more than Overlord (Mahouka, NGNL and HOTD), here's a list of all late night shows they did in the recent years and how much they sold. HXH, Dia no A and other which were day shows and clobreated project are not included. Oremonogatri - 500 units sold Death Parade - 923 units sold Parasyte - 632 units sold Hanayamata - 3,500 units sold Magical Warfare - 322 units sold Sunday Without God - 531 units sold Photo Kano - 1,256 units sold Chihayafuru 2 - 3,235 units sold Btooom - 326 units sold Chihayafuru - 2,802 Blade & X-men & Wolvrine & Kaiji S2 & Iron Man sold so litte nobody know exactly the numbers (most likely less than 100 units) so Parasyte flopped hard huh, its so highly praise and popular here on MAL or from none japanese fans that 3500 disc sales of Hanayamata (as well as Chihayafuru 2) is not so bad, i bet they already break-even with some slight profit from that kind of average disc sales if you compute 90 dollars per volume/disc and the average 150,000 dollars per episode cost but the other disc sales are horrible lol its great that Madhouse is owned by a TV station now Prasyte didnt flop it was a success. It let a 30 years old manga sell like 1.5 million in a year thats pretty damn good. |
| I heard Overlord sales started on 9/25. If this is true,this means the current figure is not Overlord sales in 1 week but rather just 4 days. Sales could increase next week. -EDIT- Yup, this is indeed Overlord 4 days sales figure, not one week. Overlord blurry/dvd is released on 9/25. http://www.fandompost.com/2015/06/30/japanese-overlord-anime-dvdbd-releases-scheduled-with-bonus-mini-episodes-more/ I am expecting next week sales figure, Overlord will reach at least 5k. |
ZapredonSep 29, 2015 5:43 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
rederoin said: Zapredon said: I heard Overlord sales started on 9/25. If this is true,this means the current figure is not Overlord sales in 1 week but rather just 4 days. Sales could increase next week. -EDIT- Yup, this is indeed Overlord 4 days sales figure, not one week. Overlord blurry/dvd is released on 9/25. http://www.fandompost.com/2015/06/30/japanese-overlord-anime-dvdbd-releases-scheduled-with-bonus-mini-episodes-more/ I am expecting next week sales figure, Overlord will reach at least 5k. It really does not matter at what point in the week its released. wk1 will have 90%~ of the sales regardless. But it's not even 1 week yet for Overlord. Overlord volume 1 sales started on 9/25 but according to the title of this thread, the figure is from Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & DVD Rankings for Sep 21 - 27. This would mean the figure we have for now is sales for Overlord in 2 days instead of 1 week or 4 days(I miscalculated in previous post because I thought the sales is until 9/29) as I claim previously. |
ZapredonSep 29, 2015 6:09 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Zapredon said: rederoin said: It really does not matter at what point in the week its released. wk1 will have 90%~ of the sales regardless. But it's not even 1 week yet for Overlord. Overlord volume 1 sales started on 9/25 but according to the title of this thread, the figure is from Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & DVD Rankings for Sep 21 - 27. This would mean the figure we have for now is sales for Overlord in 2 days instead of 1 week or 4 days(I miscalculated in previous post because I thought the sales is until 9/29) as I claim previously. It literally does not matter, as what rederoin said on anime being typically frontloaded is true, unless you're Love Live or some other anime with a long sales tail. Most sales are from preorders and the first few days at stores, so additional sales are typically a very small portion of the first week sales. Those 4 days are the first week, end of story. |
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Ejc said: Those 4 days are the first week, end of story. Don't you mean 2 days? How much do you think it will increase by next week figure coming out. I am guessing at least 5k-6k but don't think it will be above 7k. |
ZapredonSep 29, 2015 6:58 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| The real surprising part is that in 2015 people still thought a Madhouse anime would sell. |
ToG25thBaam said: >Overlord - Potential 10k seller >_> inb4 Japan y u no liek Madhouse. Seriously though, after all the hype it was rather disappointing. I hope season 2 would still come someday, since the LN is doing quite well after the boost it received from the anime. Great to see One Piece. :) Non Non Biyori Repeat tho, not doing so well compared to season 1. ): I thought Overlord was great, so I hope it gets a S2 even though I doubt it considering it was made by Madhouse. Haven't watched Charlotte yet but I've heard nothing but bad things. Once again, Japan's taste in anime doesn't surprise me. These are the same people that have voted Gundam Seed and Destiny as the best Gundams year after year. |
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 I would say Oricon seriously fucked up everything sold on September 25th. There is just no reason(expect for some disaster to wipe out half of Japan, which did not happen) for IMAS and KuroBasket to drop 40-50%, just like everything else sold that day. People, please hold your judgement until the second volume. We know that Oricon have done this before(G-recon), it just might be a bigger mess up this time. |
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TheNaturalPerm said: Rather poor sales for a rather poor season. Meh shows selling meh. Not even the trashy fanservice shows with their dedicated fanbases such as To love ru or fate kaleid are holding up. Let's aim for below 2k next time around~ Charlotte was the most entertaining trainwreck I had seen in a while. Unintentional comedy gold. I wonder if Maeda expected anyone to take it seriously when he wrote that. He might've been like "I wonder how far I can take this bullcrap till people notice" That seems a bit over the top. Summer was a solid season with some good shows. If sales were the definition of quality then we'd have to say the Transformers movies are some of the greatest films in history. Frankly I'm impressed at what Illya Herz managed considering the first volume probably just has the slice of life eps that stretched out too long. Be more curious to see how the volume with the real action in it sells. |
| Oh wow, Didn't expect Gakkou Gurashi to sell 1k copies... .-. Disappointing as fuck. Sasuga japan. Bye bye season 2. |
TYxTxYT said: I would say Oricon seriously fucked up everything sold on September 25th. 2015/09/25 Akai Koudan Zillion BD Box 2015/09/25 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu v7 2015/09/25 Code Geass Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 5.1ch BD Box 2015/09/25 Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya 2wei Herz! v1 2015/09/25 Funasshi no Funafunafuna Biyori 2015/09/25 Gangsta v1 2015/09/25 Gatchaman Crowds Insight v1 2015/09/25 Hello!! Kin-iro Mosaic v4 2015/09/25 Junjou Romantica 3 v1 2015/09/25 Kidou Senshi V Gundam BD Box v2 2015/09/25 Koufuku Graffiti v6 2015/09/25 Kuroko no Basuke 3rd Season v6 2015/09/25 Kuusen Madoushi Kouhosei no Kyoukan v1 2015/09/25 Meitantei Conan Treasured Selection File Kurozukume no Soshiki to FBI v9 2015/09/25 Mikagura Gakuen Kumikyoku v4 2015/09/25 Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu v4 2015/09/25 Noragami BD Box 2015/09/25 Okusama ga Seitokaichou! v2 2015/09/25 Omoide no Anime Library v42 2015/09/25 ONE PIECE Log Collection ‘Shirahoshi’ 2015/09/25 Overlord v1 2015/09/25 Saint Seiya -soul of gold- v3 2015/09/25 THE IDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls v5 2015/09/25 Triage X v4 2015/09/25 Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo v4 2015/09/25 Youkai Watch BD Box v3 But everything that has sale <3k BD or 2k DVD seems correct |
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moonnya said: TYxTxYT said: I would say Oricon seriously fucked up everything sold on September 25th. But everything that has sale <3k BD or 2k DVD seems correct You sure? The only thing I see that is close to its prediction is Prisma Illya. Not that I trust the stalker prediction, but IMAS and KuroBasket don't just drop like that, its impossible. The 3rd Volume of IMAS, without ticket, still did 8k+. |
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mayukachan said: Samu-tan said: Charlotte didn't sell nearly as much as Angel Beats!, but it still has an okay figure. Which it totally doesn't deserve after the weird second half and absolutely horrible last episode. if anything, the second half redeemed the show. :P the finale was good. Yes i agree! |
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| Gakkougurashi didn't sell, well it was a risk and a half, even I dropped it. That anime is not for everyone. |
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Ejc said: Those 4 days are the first week, end of story. Good thing it's only the first 2 days then huh :) Will probably sell another 4K atleast next week. *4. 4,043 *4,043 Overlord Vol.1 14. *,681 ***,681 Overlord Vol.1 Easily the best bang for your buck purchase on this list. Look at this supreme beauty <3 |
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| Lol at that Charlotte cover. Looks like shitty fanart, sasuga tho, as it's a shitty anime. |
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ichii_1 said: Ejc said: Those 4 days are the first week, end of story. Good thing it's only the first 2 days then huh :) 3 days* |
| Kuroko.... what happened to you my son.... Hopefully it really is oricon fucking up because just what. JR's drop I kind of expected, but it's not like I care. Maybe this will finally drive the nail into that coffin and they won't produce anymore of that anime. I'd rather have Sekai S3 if we have to get more Nakashit so... But anyway. Kaioshin_Sama said: What about that looks particularly well to you considering the anime did several times those numbers per volume and movies generally sell better than TV anime volumes? I'm sorry sometimes the logic of the reactions on this site baffle me, if people want to be happy over something like that fine, but it just puzzles me on so many levels. You realize it's a recap movie with reused footage, right? lmao. This isn't an original movie with new footage; it doesn't need to sell much to make them money. |
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YEEART said: Lol at that Charlotte cover. Looks like shitty fanart, sasuga tho, as it's a shitty anime. Oh wait, I thought it was seriously a fan art lol |
moonnya said: Also for the LOL, its ok for Overload, they are top 5 of the season (currently) Top 5 Sellers of each season (Vol 1) Summer *7,406 01/07 Charlotte *6,397 01/07 WORKING！！！ *5,437 01/06 Non Non Biyori s2 *5,193 01/06 Monster Musume *4,724 01/06 Overlord This could be very well the first time in nearly 10 years were we had not a single new series having sales above 10k...this is proving rather that the Anime industry is going to go trough some rough times ahead...if this trend is to countinue. [quote=AdmiralKizaru98] ios said: Ame_Sama said: Madhouse standards are not that high, in the last 5 years they only had 3 series that sold more than Overlord (Mahouka, NGNL and HOTD), here's a list of all late night shows they did in the recent years and how much they sold. HXH, Dia no A and other which were day shows and clobreated project are not included. Oremonogatri - 500 units sold Death Parade - 923 units sold Parasyte - 632 units sold Hanayamata - 3,500 units sold Magical Warfare - 322 units sold Sunday Without God - 531 units sold Photo Kano - 1,256 units sold Chihayafuru 2 - 3,235 units sold Btooom - 326 units sold Chihayafuru - 2,802 Blade & X-men & Wolvrine & Kaiji S2 & Iron Man sold so litte nobody know exactly the numbers (most likely less than 100 units) so Parasyte flopped hard huh, its so highly praise and popular here on MAL or from none japanese fans Chihayfuru is the only series produce by madhouse that has gotten a new season over the last 5 years...and it sold more poorly than some of there more recent sellers such as NGNL ,,,Mahouka and HOTD...hell overlord has sold more in its first volume than this series did. As Red pointed out early ...certain studios are not hold accountable weather to produce more content rather it is the actaul owners who do so... Madhouse is one of those few studio's which do not really have a say as to which series they produce..they are just a hired company by the series owners to produce them and are paid upfront to do them..so it really depends on the owners if they want to produce a new season or not. |
Xenocrisi said: YEEART said: Lol at that Charlotte cover. Looks like shitty fanart, sasuga tho, as it's a shitty anime. Oh wait, I thought it was seriously a fan art lol Probably is... if not though. Boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....... |
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malki said: well..even so..4k is VERY low compared to the estimations..but then againe..that wasn't a hight budget anime anyway..so this kind of sales wouldn't really surprise me if it wasn't for the OVERestimated sales.. 4K sales is decent, plus as others have said, LN sales are as important. Next week we can probably expect to see Overlord hit 6k as it has only be released for 2 days (from the cutoff), some sales are bound to have missed the cutoff. Hopefully, we do see a sequel (though doubtful to be released for a while). Charlotte sales surprised me however. |
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Z4k said: ichii_1 said: Good thing it's only the first 2 days then huh :) 3 days* Anime is typically delivered from the day before the official release date, thus Sep 24 is day 1.. Sep 24~27 = 4 days. The Oricon daily ranking last week also confirms this. No point in arguing over this, as the days of release in the first week hardly matters for anime, compared to say manga or light novels. |
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Ejc said: lets just wait for next week and see if the numbers have resolved or not Z4k said: 3 days* Anime is typically delivered from the day before the official release date, thus Sep 24 is day 1.. Sep 24~27 = 4 days. The Oricon daily ranking last week also confirms this. No point in arguing over this, as the days of release in the first week hardly matters for anime, compared to say manga or light novels. if not we just accept it as is not like most ppl here even support the industry or import |
MMMacross said: What a crazy week !!! I know it's normal to see a difference between the estimates and the actual data, but this time the number and size of the difference was too much. Even the numbers of "THE IDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls" are strangers, even allowing for comparison only the volumes 2 and 3. Is there any logical explanation for this? Well, I believe that Oricon fucked 25/09 data up. Check out the table I post on page2, everything sold on that day with the exception of prisma illya become "overestimated". Everything including KuroBasket and IMAS. |
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