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| @ssjokg 1. I'm really not, most shows wouldn't even have one recap after 25ish episodes, let alone fucking three. It's unnecessary. 2. How the shit do you know what I buy and not buy? Are you some type of stalker? 3. I admit I might have been somewhat unfair to yukaru00, but chill down. Don't take this too personal. I'm mostly insulting SHAFT here. The reasoning in my third post still stands. Nobody needs three recaps of something like Monogatari. There's a reason why sub groups don't even bother with this shit. I do whine, but I consider it justified. What "people" proved me wrong, beside yukaru00 having a point about the Japanese TV rules? You and that other guy have just been bitching. I came to this series expecting new stuff, and they constantly show useless recaps. Yeah, the recaps are there, and complaining about something retarded isn't childish. If someone throws a bucket of paint in your face you SHOULD complain. Granted, I have more of a understanding now that I know about the shitty rules of 24 - 26 eps being necessary, but it's still an absurd situation. About Ippo, apparently they removed some manga stuff from the first fight. That sucks, but it wasn't essential stuff. Episode 3 has been all build up and the show is still as great as ever. |
| Shm recap. :/ I can't believe they cut out Kanbaru's arc because of this. |
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Ramkec said: Shm recap. :/ I can't believe they cut out Kanbaru's arc because of this. You'd rather being spoiled and confused? Think again. |
DonPatch said: 1.For them it is necessary deal with it.@ssjokg 1. I'm really not, most shows wouldn't even have one recap after 25ish episodes, let alone fucking three. It's unnecessary. 2. How the shit do you know what I buy and not buy? Are you some type of stalker? 3. I admit I might have been somewhat unfair to yukaru00, but chill down. Don't take this too personal. I'm mostly insulting SHAFT here. The reasoning in my third post still stands. Nobody needs three recaps of something like Monogatari. There's a reason why sub groups don't even bother with this shit. I do whine, but I consider it justified. What "people" proved me wrong, beside yukaru00 having a point about the Japanese TV rules? You and that other guy have just been bitching. I came to this series expecting new stuff, and they constantly show useless recaps. Yeah, the recaps are there, and complaining about something retarded isn't childish. If someone throws a bucket of paint in your face you SHOULD complain. Granted, I have more of a understanding now that I know about the shitty rules of 24 - 26 eps being necessary, but it's still an absurd situation. 2.You wouldnt buy it.You are the type of person that whines for every little thing.If it wasnt the recaps,that are nothing new to the series(Bake ep 5,5 ,I guess you missed that) it would be something else. 3.Shaft has its reasons and yes there is a need.What sub groups do is not of our concern nor of Shaft's and btw subs do exist. No it isnt justified because in the end of the day you will get the same number of new eps with or without recaps and in better quality in this and the next season.You ignoring what I say and focusing only to the"bitching"(oh the irony)is your problem. Oh but it is childish.Bitching about a new ep being a week late is childish.. It's absurd that you use such analogies and that keep bitching after "having more of a understanding". |
ssjokg said: DonPatch said: 1.For them it is necessary deal with it.@ssjokg 1. I'm really not, most shows wouldn't even have one recap after 25ish episodes, let alone fucking three. It's unnecessary. 2. How the shit do you know what I buy and not buy? Are you some type of stalker? 3. I admit I might have been somewhat unfair to yukaru00, but chill down. Don't take this too personal. I'm mostly insulting SHAFT here. The reasoning in my third post still stands. Nobody needs three recaps of something like Monogatari. There's a reason why sub groups don't even bother with this shit. I do whine, but I consider it justified. What "people" proved me wrong, beside yukaru00 having a point about the Japanese TV rules? You and that other guy have just been bitching. I came to this series expecting new stuff, and they constantly show useless recaps. Yeah, the recaps are there, and complaining about something retarded isn't childish. If someone throws a bucket of paint in your face you SHOULD complain. Granted, I have more of a understanding now that I know about the shitty rules of 24 - 26 eps being necessary, but it's still an absurd situation. 2.You wouldnt buy it.You are the type of person that whines for every little thing.If it wasnt the recaps,that are nothing new to the series(Bake ep 5,5 ,I guess you missed that) it would be something else. 3.Shaft has its reasons and yes there is a need.What sub groups do is not of our concern nor of Shaft's and btw subs do exist. No it isnt justified because in the end of the day you will get the same number of new eps with or without recaps and in better quality in this and the next season.You ignoring what I say and focusing only to the"bitching"(oh the irony)is your problem. Oh but it is childish.Bitching about a new ep being a week late is childish.. It's absurd that you use such analogies and that keep bitching after "having more of a understanding". 1. Sure, if this is the only way to get all the arcs, I can accept it. I do want to remind you that I didn't know about the need for 24 - 26 eps before it was brought up. Somehow I imagine you were in the same boat since you didn't bring it up first. 2. Thank you, Mr professional personality identifier. You must have some type of master degree in this field to be able to identify what I will and won't buy from these couple of rushed forum posts. I assume you already know what I like to eat for breakfast from my post count, huh, professor? Never saw Bake 5,5 since I picked that show up after it finished. 3. We both bitch. The only difference I see is that I bitched about something completely idiotic. It might not be SHAFTs faulth, it's rather Japanese TV rules being at fault. Then again, Psycho-Pass was 22 episodes, so I don't know. I bitch about these episodes needing to exist, not ep 17 being late. Being hyped for new Monogatari and constantly being let-down because of some absurd rule is reason to complain. |
| 1.I dint know about the rule but I do know about Shaft having deadline problems. 2.Not my or Shaft's problem. 3.I bitch about something idiotic too.So let me get this straight.You would prefer something entirely unrelated to monogatari to air in place of the recap?YEah lets please one but make thousand others bitch..sounds great. DonPatch said: I bitch about these episodes needing to exist, not ep 17 being late. Being hyped for new Monogatari and constantly being let-down because of some absurd rule is reason to complain. This is so contradictory. Make a phone call to the tv station and tell them that you cant pirate the new ep because it is a recap.I am sure they will understand the complaint. The tv station isnt obligated to change its schedule because a studio changed its plans at the last minute or because a "fan" is throwing a tantrum. |
ssjokgOct 20, 2013 1:54 PM
| Just stop it guys. Really. |
yukaru00 said: Just stop it guys. Really. ^this ------------- to be honest I got a bit confused with the recap because I was expecting the final ep with Nadeko but it wasn't that bad I didn't watched bake and Nise (yet) so I'm thankful for this, it was a nice ep xD and yey for Shinobu next week :3 |
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| Hey recaps are nice. I actually almost forgot about Nise so seeing the Fire Sisters' arc was kind of nostalgic. I miss the long-haired black Hanekawa :( |
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| Given the talk about Recaps, I have a question I always wondered about but haven't looked into it. Why are studios even wasting money and effort in making these recaps?(Even if both are low) From a business stand point its point less. To me as a viewer, I rather wait another week for a real episode instead of watching old cut material. Someone with a join date earlier than me please answer this question. (Or Forum Moderator) |
ToilgameshOct 20, 2013 8:00 PM
Tony777 said: Given the talk about Recaps, I have a question I always wondered about but haven't looked into it. Why are studios even wasting money and effort in making these recaps?(Even if both are low) From a business stand point its point less. To me as a viewer, I rather wait another week for a real episode instead of watching old cut material. Someone with a join date earlier than me please answer this question. (Or Forum Moderator) I joined at later date from you, But the question has already been answered (many times). You just need to dig and search the answer in this thread or previous threads related to the series. |
Tony777 said: Given the talk about Recaps, I have a question I always wondered about but haven't looked into it. Why are studios even wasting money and effort in making these recaps?(Even if both are low) From a business stand point its point less. To me as a viewer, I rather wait another week for a real episode instead of watching old cut material. Someone with a join date earlier than me please answer this question. (Or Forum Moderator) This. And Shaft is getting pretty ridiculous now. What is this like the 3rd recap in a 20 something episode series? |
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| I think they're doing recap just to fulfill the episode's quota. It'd probably make them more money too if they do Kanbaru's arc separately. |
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| I did like this recap. Man, I miss long-hair Hitagi so much ;_; And this shitstorm ROFL |
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Tony777 said: Yeah video editing is such a waste of time and money compared to a new ep.....Given the talk about Recaps, I have a question I always wondered about but haven't looked into it. Why are studios even wasting money and effort in making these recaps?(Even if both are low) From a business stand point its point less. To me as a viewer, I rather wait another week for a real episode instead of watching old cut material. Someone with a join date earlier than me please answer this question. (Or Forum Moderator) testlist7 said: Why are there so many positive opinions about recaps? I came here to read hatefull comments but see all these. Are people really think that bad work is better than no work at all? Will you pay for it? Will some of you buy a BD with 3 recaps? I don't get it. I wouldnt buy it anyway.And neither would you right mr.troll account? Vox_Populi said: You are missing his character.Thanks.I guess all those "intelligent" series in your favs are just for show.Madara31 said: Just once I'd like to see Koyomi actually hit someone, instead of always getting completely dominated in fights. It got boring after Karen beat him to a pulp. Can't say I disagree. Whenever he shows up to confront someone, all I know is that he's about to get severely mutilated and then have to be saved by some other character. Kind of annoying. Just like this recap. People complaining about Koyomi not fighting back...THAT is annoying. |
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yukaru00 said: I joined at later date from you, But the question has already been answered (many times). You just need to dig and search the answer in this thread or previous threads related to the series. This is what I didn't want, a useless response. Don't get upset, don't take this personally, it is what it is. And no, my question was not answered in this thread or the others. Here I'll give you a break down on what has been said throughout this thread. 1. Stop whining/For Shaft it is necessary deal with it. My Reply: Telling someone to stop whining while dodging the question/statement makes a lot of sense. 2. Gives the staff more time to polish up coming episodes. My Reply: So the staff needs more time and yet they waste money, effort and time for the recap. What's your source? 3. Those recaps are being shown for reasons. My Reply: What's those reasons and your source? 4. For a studio doesn't rush it's work/Shaft has problems. My Reply: Comparing an episode of SnK to a Recap is ridiculous. Although, you could make a case for Ep.25 not matching the manga. Again what's your source? 5. They need extra episodes to make sure its 2 Cours. My Reply: This could be a legitimate reason, although there could be enough source material. Also they could slow down on how much they use. Again what's your source? 6. Japanese TV rules. My Reply: What's your source? 7. It's a bonus episode. My Reply: This is my favorite response and its very funny. Nothing more to say. ssjokg said: Yeah video editing is such a waste of time and money compared to a new ep..... This is what I mean, this thread is filled with smart ass answers. Not even going to bother. By the way ssjokg, I don't reply too trolls. |
ToilgameshOct 20, 2013 11:47 PM
| Yet you did bother not to mention that you ignore the problems the studio has for years(let me guess you want source with that?) and take what you want for answers. like:4. For a studio doesn't rush it's work/Shaft has problems. My Reply: Comparing an episode of SnK to a Recap is ridiculous. Although, you could make a case for Ep.25 not matching the manga. Again what's your source? Remember all that derp animation and and failed cg?No of course not because it helps you whine even more.The recaps give Shaft more time to deal with their animation and visuals.If you CANT figure that out it isnt my problem that you want it spelled out for you. If you imply that video editing,that nowadays even a single person can do, is a lot of work for a studio then yes we or at least I will reply like that. And that you think that a tv station can just change their program at the last minute because of the studio's problems is beyond me.Yeah it would make sense to have all the recaps at the end or have nothing at all right?No. Yes when you can only complain and never stop to think for a bit that makes the other guy a troll.Glad to know.Keep complaining this will probably make the needed recaps go away somehow. |
ssjokgOct 20, 2013 11:21 PM
| Nothing to say for the recap. It would be nice if Araragi and the crew dubbed over the scenes. Like a commentary, not necessarily commenting on what's happening on the scene but just having a conversation. Like the directors commentary track over a movie. |
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Tony777 said: This is what I didn't want, a useless response. Don't get upset, don't take this personally, it is what it is. And no, my question was not answered in this thread or the others. Here I'll give you a break down on what has been said throughout this thread. 1. Stop whining/For Shaft it is necessary deal with it. My Reply: Telling someone to stop winning while dodging the question/statement makes a lot of sense. 2. Gives the staff more time to polish up coming episodes. My Reply: So the staff needs more time and yet they waste money, effort and time for the recap. What's your source? 3. Those recaps are being shown for reasons. My Reply: What's those reasons and your source? 4. For a studio doesn't rush it's work/Shaft has problems. My Reply: Comparing an episode of SnK to a Recap is ridiculous. Although, you could make a case for Ep.25 not matching the manga. Again what's your source? 5. They need extra episodes to make sure its 2 Cours. My Reply: This could be a legitimate reason, although there could be enough source material. Also they could slow down on how much they use. Again what's your source? 6. Japanese TV rules. My Reply: What's your source? 7. It's a bonus episode. My Reply: This is my favorite response and its very funny. Nothing more to say. ssjokg said: Yeah video editing is such a waste of time and money compared to a new ep..... This is what I mean, this thread is filled with smart ass answers. Not even going to bother. By the way ssjokg, I don't reply too trolls. Source for the recaps can be find from the interviews published in Newtype magazine. For legal reasons, those stuff cannot be uploaded here. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-11/hanamonogatari-to-be-separate-from-rest-of-monogatari-2nd-season This is the news excerpt from ANN regarding the Hanamogatari delays. Start searching those related news and do not be a person that needs to be spoon-fed. Japanese tv rules; Well, if you watch a lot of stuff from Japan you will get the idea. It is sort of common sense. Unless you don't possess one. Lemme explain this: 1 cour - 11-13 episodes (lasting for 1 season = 3 months) 2 cours - 24-26 episodes, unless the series broadcast is delayed until the third week of the first month it should be aired--Perfect example is Psycho-Pass 4 cours -50-52 episodes. Broadcasting companies have their own airing schedules and they are bound to follow those schedules and rules. If episode counts are not enough to fill the whole cour or season, the show will be dropped or delayed until the next season. I have experienced this while I was working under an animation company previously. Source? Common sense still kicks in if you use your brain a little bit. --Again, most of the sources are from Newtype and Bessatsu magazines, and from the official 2nd season website. Edit: This is the source you've been asking for; http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4840747&postcount=303 |
yukaru00Oct 21, 2013 11:05 AM
| It might be a dumb question, but is it me or didn't the end of Nadeko Medusa get aired. It is made on purpose or did i miss something? |
Repliku said: It might be a dumb question, but is it me or didn't the end of Nadeko Medusa get aired. It is made on purpose or did i miss something? Next week, Onimonogatari: Shinobu Time will be aired. After the arc ends, it will most probably followed by another recap episode. The week after that, you will get your dose of Hitagi and the conclusive arc for Nadeko Medusa; Koimonogatari: Hitagi End/Chapter Love. |
yukaru00 said: Repliku said: It might be a dumb question, but is it me or didn't the end of Nadeko Medusa get aired. It is made on purpose or did i miss something? Next week, Onimonogatari: Shinobu Time will be aired. After the arc ends, it will most probably followed by another recap episode. The week after that, you will get your dose of Hitagi and the conclusive arc for Nadeko Medusa; Koimonogatari: Hitagi End/Chapter Love. In other words the ending of Nadeko Medusa is in Hitagi End. I think it was pretty obvious with those two frames http://i.imgur.com/JqV5AvO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qqwAmKS.jpg that the next new ep will be another arc since they appear only at the end of arcs. |
| Monogatari recaps are the only ones that I like |
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testlist7 said: ssjokg said: ... I wouldnt buy it anyway.And neither would you right mr.troll account? Sadly, but that was my frankly opinion. I am not trolling here anyway. Of course I will not buy. It was a question adressed to people which frequently buy anime on BD. (sorry for misleading structure of sentences) You arent a troll with an account like that?okay...lets believe that for argument's sake. THere are so many positive comments because people liked them or they simply dont mind waiting. Also you and every other guy that complains about that dont know if the recaps will be in the BDs.If they are and people still buy them then 1.either they are stupid or 2.They freaking loved it. They are the only ones who have the right to complain and only after they think that they have been screwed(aka a recap replacing a new ep in a volume) |
| ^^^ As I reported elsewhere, recap #1 WILL be on Tsubasa Tiger volume 2. While not yet listed as they are farther out, this leads me to believe that the other recaps will also be on the future volumes. However, they are listed as bonuses, they are not increasing the price (e.g. Tsubasa cat volume one has 3 episodes and is more expensive but volume two with 3 episodes now, 2 + recap, is still the same 2 episode price). They are NOT replacing episodes in volumes. They were doing 2 volumes per arc anyway, the recaps are just extra bonus footage since there is a lot of empty room on a disc with only 2 episodes on it. |
| There will be another recap episode after Onimonogatari, most probably. So, just take it or leave it. |
| Oh boy, another recap episode that was made due to unfortunate circumstances that were announced months before, whatever shall I do? Be a reasonable person, and accept the fact that TV stations have their own set of schedules that cannot be fiddled with so easily? Sounds like a good idea. It's not like I'm glad Shaft didn't delayed the new adaptation of a franchise I happen to like, and it's certainly not like I can't wait one more week for the new episode. On topic though I'm curious what will they recap next time given there's nothing left to recap at this point. I'd like to bet there won't gonna be a recap between Onimono and Koimono, but I imagine they'll just recap S2 up to Onimono before they tackle the final arc of the TV broadcast. |
Vaanskylord said: Tony777 said: Given the talk about Recaps, I have a question I always wondered about but haven't looked into it. Why are studios even wasting money and effort in making these recaps?(Even if both are low) From a business stand point its point less. To me as a viewer, I rather wait another week for a real episode instead of watching old cut material. Someone with a join date earlier than me please answer this question. (Or Forum Moderator) This. And Shaft is getting pretty ridiculous now. What is this like the 3rd recap in a 20 something episode series? Because newcomers to a popular series will have no clue what is going on. I personally liked the recaps here, it's been ages since I've seen the prequels and it refreshed a lot for me. There will be many people in Japan watching this series on TV for the first time, the recaps are mainly for them, I would guess. |
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| Good job there's a recap to refresh my memory of Nisemono. Shame dat toothbrush wasn't included. RIP Karen's side ponytail. |
TravSavage said: RIP Karen's side ponytail. Along with Hanekawa and Senjougahara hair. |
yukaru00 said: I don't mind them but I wonder, what will this one be about now???There will be another recap episode after Onimonogatari, most probably. So, just take it or leave it. |
hpulley said: yukaru00 said: I don't mind them but I wonder, what will this one be about now???There will be another recap episode after Onimonogatari, most probably. So, just take it or leave it. I don't know. Maybe they will recap Nadeko Medusa for continuation sake? Haha. Or maybe there will be no more recap after all. We'll see. |
hpulley said: Thanks.So all this whining is for nothing.^^^ As I reported elsewhere, recap #1 WILL be on Tsubasa Tiger volume 2. While not yet listed as they are farther out, this leads me to believe that the other recaps will also be on the future volumes. However, they are listed as bonuses, they are not increasing the price (e.g. Tsubasa cat volume one has 3 episodes and is more expensive but volume two with 3 episodes now, 2 + recap, is still the same 2 episode price). They are NOT replacing episodes in volumes. They were doing 2 volumes per arc anyway, the recaps are just extra bonus footage since there is a lot of empty room on a disc with only 2 episodes on it. |
ssjokg said: Well, you can still whine, but not about this LOL hpulley said: Thanks.So all this whining is for nothing.^^^ As I reported elsewhere, recap #1 WILL be on Tsubasa Tiger volume 2. While not yet listed as they are farther out, this leads me to believe that the other recaps will also be on the future volumes. However, they are listed as bonuses, they are not increasing the price (e.g. Tsubasa cat volume one has 3 episodes and is more expensive but volume two with 3 episodes now, 2 + recap, is still the same 2 episode price). They are NOT replacing episodes in volumes. They were doing 2 volumes per arc anyway, the recaps are just extra bonus footage since there is a lot of empty room on a disc with only 2 episodes on it. 12 discs for 25 actual new episodes is still quite silly expensive. If not for the beautiful covers, end cards, bonus CDs, etc. it wouldn't even be a possible purchase but two covers per girl makes it almost... almost acceptable. |
Vox_Populi said: ssjokg said: You are missing his character.Thanks.I guess all those "intelligent" series in your favs are just for show. People complaining about Koyomi not fighting back...THAT is annoying. Regardless of the rationalization, which I'm aware of, I still find it annoying. It makes it hard for me to take him seriously and the absurdity and brutality of the conflicts, like him getting his intestines ripped out or being beaten around the city, make me question the true gravity of these encounters. By the way, I always see people on this site using the shows people favorite to reach conclusions about them. I hope one day you realize how stupid that is. Thats how he is when he doenst want to hurt the other side/lets himself get severely hurt FOR REASONS and I HOPE that you realize that the scene with Karen was all Shaft's way to animate it,NOT what was happening. It is stupid that you ignore a char and call his justified actions stupid after watching series like your favs. hpulley said: It wasnt me that was crying about the lack of new eps...ssjokg said: Well, you can still whine, but not about this LOL hpulley said: Thanks.So all this whining is for nothing.^^^ As I reported elsewhere, recap #1 WILL be on Tsubasa Tiger volume 2. While not yet listed as they are farther out, this leads me to believe that the other recaps will also be on the future volumes. However, they are listed as bonuses, they are not increasing the price (e.g. Tsubasa cat volume one has 3 episodes and is more expensive but volume two with 3 episodes now, 2 + recap, is still the same 2 episode price). They are NOT replacing episodes in volumes. They were doing 2 volumes per arc anyway, the recaps are just extra bonus footage since there is a lot of empty room on a disc with only 2 episodes on it. 12 discs for 25 actual new episodes is still quite silly expensive. If not for the beautiful covers, end cards, bonus CDs, etc. it wouldn't even be a possible purchase but two covers per girl makes it almost... almost acceptable. |
Vox_Populi said: Regardless of the rationalization, which I'm aware of, I still find it annoying. It makes it hard for me to take him seriously and the absurdity and brutality of the conflicts, like him getting his intestines ripped out or being beaten around the city, make me question the true gravity of these encounters. By the way, I always see people on this site using the shows people favorite to reach conclusions about them. I hope one day you realize how stupid that is. My theory and conclusion is based on what I have read and watch. And yeah, the reason is as exactly what mugimugi has written above. If you don't like the way Nisio portrays Araragi as a character, I am very sorry. I doubt he will change Araragi's characteristics at this point. It is not even relevant anymore. |
Madara31 said: Just once I'd like to see Koyomi actually hit someone, instead of always getting completely dominated in fights. It got boring after Karen beat him to a pulp. ^This! Now's not the time for recaps!! There's a showdown between Medusa and the Araragi gang that I'm wanting to see!! I actually think Araragi and Shinobu would make a better couple than Araragi and Senjougahara. |
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GoGo_Dominatrix said: Madara31 said: Just once I'd like to see Koyomi actually hit someone, instead of always getting completely dominated in fights. It got boring after Karen beat him to a pulp. ^This! Now's not the time for recaps!! There's a showdown between Medusa and the Araragi gang that I'm wanting to see!! I actually think Araragi and Shinobu would make a better couple than Araragi and Senjougahara. Yes a character killing his little sister and trying to do the same to others is the best thing ever. Even without recaps you would have to wait for another arc. |
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