Botato said:Ckan said:This kind of weak baiting is what killed this thread.
Ok. I'll be serious.
F/SN is overrated. The anime is absolutely atrocious. The visual novel isn't bad per se, but it is quite lacking compared to Fate/Zero which was more compelling and mature. F/SN focuses on teenagers who acted as such, much to its detriment. F/Z on the other hand, largely focused on adults who were competent and understood the situation at hand as evidence by the seriousness with which the majority of them took it. The darker atmosphere made the show more intriguing and clear that the viewer would be going through an epic story that had value. F/SN was burdened by lackluster slice of life scenes and immature characters who were in over their heads, so it didn't feel nearly as suspenseful. Yes there were some amazing scenes particularly in regards to action, but it prioritizes style over substance.
Most of the characters in F/Z were interesting and worth caring about more or less, whereas F/SN's were largely bland. It was disappointing to see how Kirei was turned into a generic villain when he had shown so much promise as a character, and Gil lost a significant amount of his complexity. We were able to sympathize with Kiritsugu's plight and root for him despite his flaws because Urobuchi was a competent writer who could craft tragic characters who possessed non-trivial levels of depth. Kerry was serious, cold, and logical, and the decisions he made were believable and understandable. Fast forward to F/SN, we have a hotheaded shounen who's quite dense and stubborn. He made numerous boneheaded decisions throughout the course of the show and it was painful to watch. It wouldn't be so painful if he were as deep as Kerry, but unfortunately that isn't the case (though he does have a small amout of depth). Rin was awful and a bit annoying. She kept acting arrogant and pretended to be skillful, but ultimately she was still green behind the ears and another shallow tsundere. The two are an annoying but tolerable pair, but they still somehow managed to entertain me in large part due to the things they were able to pull out of their asses on a regular basis when plot armor failed to protect them. F/Z did have plot armor (particularly pertaining to scenes with Gil) as well, but not nearly as much.
F/SN is better than the sum of its parts if you can look beyond its glaring flaws, but even then F/Z is still the superior work.
Taken from one of the Fate threads.