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| Ah, now that's more like it. What's Evangelion without a shitton of controversy? As much as I liked the first 2 rebuild movies(specially the second one), I thought they were a bit too tame and lighthearted compared to the original series and I was cautious about the prospect of a happy ending. This one though rescues that depressing, dark atmosphere of the latter half of the series, which I thoroughly appreciate. It was also exciting to see something entirely new in the eva canon by Anno himself, since 1.0 and 2.0 weren't entirely new. I'm glad I resisted the urge and didn't spoil myself since that contributed a lot to me being lost and confused like Shinji. I felt enthralled by the movie, always wanting to discover what was going on and how much everything changed. The atmosphere pulled me in a lot more than the previous movies. Some of my questions were answered, while others are still up in the air. I couldn't quite understand what the hell was going on in the ending with Kaworu somehow reverting from 1st to 13th angel and the spears or whatever, maybe with subsequent viewings I won't be as lost. I don't really expect 4.0 to answer a lot of stuff, I mean, NGE was never known to give you all the answers to everything. In fact, I won't be surprised if the next one leaves everyone even MORE confused. I'm fine with that but I can already see people getting upset over it. I'm still not sure what I think of Mari, the pilots not aging, Shinji acting like an idiot and disregarding Kaworu's warnings to not pick up the spears and some other details, but as an emotional experience, I will be the infidel here and say that I probably enjoyed this more than 2.0. Sure, it was different from everything that came before it, but I like that they tried something new here. However, I can understand why so many people are displeased with it and why it is dividing so many opinions(just look at the poll here, that's episodes 25~26 levels of conflicting opinions). I'm most likely overanalizing it but I feel like Kaworu's line described it pretty well: "Instead of seeking change, you prefer a void, merciless abyss of a world", which sort of applies to a portion of the fandom that would prefer no new NGE material at all if it means changing it/taking a new direction. Maybe I'll change my opinion in subsequent viewings after the "novelty" wears off or when 4.0 comes out, but for now I can say I loved this movie. 9/10. |
YunoleffApr 28, 2013 10:24 PM
| I do like this movie for retaining the dark and depressing atmosphere of the original series. It's definitely a throwback to the times in the show where it seems like nothing was happening, as opposed to 2.0 where literally EVERYTHING was happening and everything was new and fresh. 3.0 does a good job of leaving the viewer as confused as Shinji for the first 30 or so minutes as well. |
| I don't understand what significance of the time skip. No one aged and nothing changed, I think? Any way, decent movie. Better than the first, worse than the second. Confusing, but it added just enough explanation as to not be annoyingly vague. None of the characters seemed to be acting consistently. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Lynx_7 said: Ah, now that's more like it. What's Evangelion without a shitton of controversy? As much as I liked the first 2 rebuild movies(specially the second one), I thought they were a bit too tame and lighthearted compared to the original series and I was cautious about the prospect of a happy ending. This one though rescues that depressing, dark atmosphere of the latter half of the series, which I thoroughly appreciate. It was also exciting to see something entirely new in the eva canon by Anno himself, since 1.0 and 2.0 weren't entirely new. I'm glad I resisted the urge and didn't spoil myself since that contributed a lot to me being lost and confused like Shinji. I felt enthralled by the movie, always wanting to discover what was going on and how much everything changed. The atmosphere pulled me in a lot more than the previous movies. Some of my questions were answered, while others are still up in the air. I couldn't quite understand what the hell was going on in the ending with Kaworu somehow reverting from 1st to 13th angel and the spears or whatever, maybe with subsequent viewings I won't be as lost. I don't really expect 4.0 to answer a lot of stuff, I mean, NGE was never known to give you all the answers to everything. In fact, I won't be surprised if the next one leaves everyone even MORE confused. I'm fine with that but I can already see people getting upset over it. I'm still not sure what I think of Mari, the pilots not aging, Shinji acting like an idiot and disregarding Kaworu's warnings to not pick up the spears and some other details, but as an emotional experience, I will be the infidel here and say that I probably enjoyed this more than 2.0. Sure, it was different from everything that came before it, but I like that they tried something new here. However, I can understand why so many people are displeased with it and why it is dividing so many opinions(just look at the poll here, that's episodes 25~26 levels of conflicting opinions). I'm most likely overanalizing it but I feel like Kaworu's line described it pretty well: "Instead of seeking change, you prefer a void, merciless abyss of a world", which sort of applies to a portion of the fandom that would prefer no new NGE material at all if it means changing it/taking a new direction. Maybe I'll change my opinion in subsequent viewings after the "novelty" wears off or when 4.0 comes out, but for now I can say I loved this movie. 9/10. Ahahaha I like this movie because of the dark atmosphere as well (and that's why I gave it a 9, otherwise I would have to give it a 8 or even a 7 -but I can't give it a 7 xd Not as long as I have emotions xd-). But in objective terms (if such a thing is posible for someone who has been an Evangelion fan for almost 6 years now -and that's little compared to other fans-), I feel this movie was not as good as the original series. And I'm not upset with the completely new plot or that events were completely confusing. What I mean here is: I think it relies too much on the previous knowledge of the audience. For someone who's just getting into the Evangelion franchise, 3.0 (or 3.3 whatever) is just completely imposible to understand. The contrast between the plain obvious 1.0 and 2.0 is just way to big. Thinking back in the original NGE, well...it gave hints of the weird shit that NERV and SEELE were scheming since the beginning, even if the atmosphere was kind of happy (??? I think the first 7 episodes are actually quite dramatic xd). And then it slowly started to change the atmosphere along the chapters. It's of common consensus to say "NGE's episode 16 is what sets the new approach of the series", however I remember I started to feel quite uneasy since episode 11 (the one in which they fight the spider-like angel, in which NERV had no power). I began to think : "why the hell would another human want to sabotage NERV? They said the purpose was to reach MAGI...wasn't it the super computer that even controls the city??? Just what the hell is stored there?" And then we see our pilots a step closer of hell (episode 12), and the show started to feel very serious . Not even Asuka was taking it lightly. After the bacteria-like angel let us know a little more about MAGI, while the Dummy system was being developed. And etc. The orignal NGE was more subtle, but still it had enough development so the audience could kind of understand what was going on. What happens with the Rebuild? It begins quite obvious but it isn't as significative in my opinion. If I hadn't watched the original NGE I would be quite upset. The Dummy system was there since the beginning, and yet, did they ever mentioned it was based on the thoughts pattern of the pilot (or rather did they give hints)? Was there even a hint Yui was the >>heart<< of Unit 01, or that Eva units were kind of alive??? In the original NGE there were a lot of moments that made you thought about the possible connection between Ayanami and Yui, but the Rebuild seems to just throw it in your face. The problems I have with 3.0 (or 3.33) does not lie in the introduction of new elements, but in the fact those aren't well developed. Again, if I was newbie I would feel like this series is full of asspuls and...well what not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Rebuild is lame by any means, I actually like it and I'll buy the blue-rays, however I must insist in the fact that only those who watched the original NGE can "understand" it and truly enjoy it, since it has not enough hints along the way, hence it relies a lot on the previous knowledge of the viewer. Only someone who already watched the old NGE can be amazed on how Fuyutsuki thrown facts to Shinji's face. One wonders, now he knows Eva units are meant to "destroy the world", what will he do?? Will he act different from EoE, in which for what he knew it could have only been Nerv's end? And lots of theories only an already experienced viewer would think of. By the way, I think the time skip was meant to develop a little what Yui said to Fuyutsuki -revealed on EoE-. She said that even if the world perished (Lol), the Eva units would still be there, lasting till the end of the times, as a testimony of human-kind. It talks about the desire of immortality, about the desire of clinging on something that will never perish. Anno seems to take this idea with the "Eva curse" Asuka mentioned, maybe pointing out they will not perish because their time will run out. The feelings Shinji had out of it might be interpreted like the anxiety humans would feel when facing eternity U_U Or that's what I could make up out of it XD About Kaworu...he just got a lot more perplexing for me. Just what the hell did he intended to do? It seems to me his intentions are very different from what I saw on episode 24. Also he saying "I never thought I, the first angel, would be re-labeled as the 13th" is kind of...dazing? Does this confirm he is indeed Adam?? Or at least that he has Adam's soul??? ._. Shinji pulling out the spears is...amm...I don't know. I just don't know what to think about it, but he's certainly right at blaming his self for Kaworu's death -at least I assume he's doing so-. XD And I don't hate Shinji, I like him as a matter of fact xd Anything left for me to say? ._. |
SupermacaquecoolApr 28, 2013 11:59 PM
| Not good as the last movie but was still a good movie overall. It was a lot darker than the first 2 movies, and Shinji has now totally gone insane. I did like how it ended with the main cast reunited at the end. Overall a 7/10 for this movie. Looking forward to the final movie. |
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| I don't know why a lot of people hate this one, I thought it was awesome. |
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| A whole lot of Shinji being Shinji in this. Fucking Shinji. |
theblur said: A whole lot of Shinji being Shinji in this. Fucking Shinji. So what? Shinji is good as he is. Better than any wannabe hollywood heroes. |
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| This is my least favorite of the rebuild films so far. The reason has nothing to do with the dark/depressing atmosphere (I actually like that kind of stuff when done well). The problem I had with this movie is with the communication between characters (or lack of communication I should say). Shinji certainly didn't make the best of choices, but the others are no better in my eyes. The people in this movie need to learn that if you want someone to understand something, you have to explain it to them. So much time and trouble could have been saved if they explained everything they knew to Shinji from the beginning. This type of behavior from characters is excruciatingly annoying to me. I don't blame Shinji for leaving with the way the others were treating him. |
saxophone15 said: The people in this movie need to learn that if you want someone to understand something, you have to explain it to them. So much time and trouble could have been saved if they explained everything they knew to Shinji from the beginning. Totally true. I hope those making the movies will also take this to heart when making the last movie ;-) |
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saxophone15 said: Well shit must happen you know.You cant have that if the chars act based on the common sense of sharing info.This is my least favorite of the rebuild films so far. The reason has nothing to do with the dark/depressing atmosphere (I actually like that kind of stuff when done well). The problem I had with this movie is with the communication between characters (or lack of communication I should say). Shinji certainly didn't make the best of choices, but the others are no better in my eyes. The people in this movie need to learn that if you want someone to understand something, you have to explain it to them. So much time and trouble could have been saved if they explained everything they knew to Shinji from the beginning. This type of behavior from characters is excruciatingly annoying to me. I don't blame Shinji for leaving with the way the others were treating him. |
| Meh. Was actually really let down. 2.22 was amazing, this was just alright, |
| Fear is the mind killer. |
| Thought this installment was 'OK'. Everyone was treating Shinji like crap. Maybe it is because they see him as an enemy and are not willing to share their intel or their thoughts, but a lot of miscommunication could have been resolved if they bothered to talk at all. This movie could be seen as fall of Shinji, when everything he believes in falls apart. As a set-up, this would make a lot of room for an epic return for the next movie, but as a movie that focuses completely on Shinji, it makes it a bit difficult to watch. Music, animation, voice acting and design still top notch. Just hope Movie 4 would come sooner to explain everything. Miss Unit 1, Unit 13 just does not have the same bad-ass feeling... |
Supermacaquecool said: Ahahaha I like this movie because of the dark atmosphere as well (and that's why I gave it a 9, otherwise I would have to give it a 8 or even a 7 -but I can't give it a 7 xd Not as long as I have emotions xd-). But in objective terms (if such a thing is posible for someone who has been an Evangelion fan for almost 6 years now -and that's little compared to other fans-), I feel this movie was not as good as the original series. And I'm not upset with the completely new plot or that events were completely confusing. What I mean here is: I think it relies too much on the previous knowledge of the audience. For someone who's just getting into the Evangelion franchise, 3.0 (or 3.3 whatever) is just completely imposible to understand. The contrast between the plain obvious 1.0 and 2.0 is just way to big. Thinking back in the original NGE, well...it gave hints of the weird shit that NERV and SEELE were scheming since the beginning, even if the atmosphere was kind of happy (??? I think the first 7 episodes are actually quite dramatic xd). And then it slowly started to change the atmosphere along the chapters. It's of common consensus to say "NGE's episode 16 is what sets the new approach of the series", however I remember I started to feel quite uneasy since episode 11 (the one in which they fight the spider-like angel, in which NERV had no power). I began to think : "why the hell would another human want to sabotage NERV? They said the purpose was to reach MAGI...wasn't it the super computer that even controls the city??? Just what the hell is stored there?" And then we see our pilots a step closer of hell (episode 12), and the show started to feel very serious . Not even Asuka was taking it lightly. After the bacteria-like angel let us know a little more about MAGI, while the Dummy system was being developed. And etc. The orignal NGE was more subtle, but still it had enough development so the audience could kind of understand what was going on. What happens with the Rebuild? It begins quite obvious but it isn't as significative in my opinion. If I hadn't watched the original NGE I would be quite upset. The Dummy system was there since the beginning, and yet, did they ever mentioned it was based on the thoughts pattern of the pilot (or rather did they give hints)? Was there even a hint Yui was the >>heart<< of Unit 01, or that Eva units were kind of alive??? In the original NGE there were a lot of moments that made you thought about the possible connection between Ayanami and Yui, but the Rebuild seems to just throw it in your face. The problems I have with 3.0 (or 3.33) does not lie in the introduction of new elements, but in the fact those aren't well developed. Again, if I was newbie I would feel like this series is full of asspuls and...well what not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Rebuild is lame by any means, I actually like it and I'll buy the blue-rays, however I must insist in the fact that only those who watched the original NGE can "understand" it and truly enjoy it, since it has not enough hints along the way, hence it relies a lot on the previous knowledge of the viewer. Only someone who already watched the old NGE can be amazed on how Fuyutsuki thrown facts to Shinji's face. Something that was obvious since the beginning was that the Rebuilds wouldn't have as much time as the TV series to develop the plot and characters. But they did drop hints along the way. I rewatched 1.0 and 2.0 before this and I can assure you that they DID drop hints about Ayanami, Shinji's mother and unit 1, perhaps even more explicitly than the tv series. In the second movie, when Shinji is inside unit 1, he says something along the lines of it having a familiar scent, his "mother's smell?... Ayanami?" or something like that. When Gendo and Rei are eating together, he sees Rei as Yui for a short period of time and that's why he accepts her offer to eat together with Shinji on her birthday. And then there is the scene where Gendo asks if Yui is rejecting him when unit 01 rejects the dummy system. The connection between them is made rather explicitly, so Fuyutsuki's explanation shouldn't feel like an asspull at all. Having previous knowledge helps, but isn't strictly necessary. The rebuilds have hinted at a lot of other things too, like Gendo receiving the Nebuchadnezzar's Key instead of Adam's embryo, but it's still to be seen how that will affect the plot. The TV series will obviously always be the most complete experience, but the Rebuilds are doing their own thing quite well imo. A bit off topic here, but I always found it amusing how everything goes according to Gendo's plan. "Eva 1 awakened, everything is going according to my plan... Did that eva unit from space just stop 3rd impact? Well good, because I predicted that too" "So, did we lose all our personnel to commander Katsuragi? Excellent, everything is proceeding as expected." "So Wille interfered with our plans and even thwarted our backup plan of having Shinji as a backup trigger? Looks like everything is proceeding smoothly, soon I will achieve success." "Fuyutsuki, did you shave today? Just as I planned. And even if you hadn't shaved today, that would still be within an acceptable realm of possibility to my plan. Damn I'm good." I'm sure he keeps a notebook somewhere where he just writtes plans for everyone he meets while sipping a cup of coffee. The guy would give Light and L a run for their money. saxophone15 said: Shinji certainly didn't make the best of choices, but the others are no better in my eyes. The people in this movie need to learn that if you want someone to understand something, you have to explain it to them. So much time and trouble could have been saved if they explained everything they knew to Shinji from the beginning. This type of behavior from characters is excruciatingly annoying to me. I don't blame Shinji for leaving with the way the others were treating him. I've seen that argument a couple of times but I don't know, a lot of things could have been avoided in real life too had the involved people talked more about it, but not everything proceeds smoothly all of the time. (Gendo's plan being an exception, of course!) People make choices based on their own personal experiences, personalities, etc instead of acting according to what would be the "right thing" to do. Misato and co did explain Shinji the basics, and he did learn about everything later on and still chose to do what he did. Besides, you are analyzing things with outside knowledge. They probably didn't know Shinji could still trigger an impact, hence why their priority was protecting unity 1 and why Ritsuko told Misato that "if they are seeking Shinji, then he can probably still serve as the trigger". What good explaining him the situation would have done from their perspective? Make him go completely batshit insane over his guilt? He was only supposed to stay still and not interfere, they didn't have any reason nor desire to explain everything for the time being. (besides, it would be very boring cinema to get all the answers right off the bat ;P ) Let's not forget we're talking about Shinji here. Do you really think he would just apologize for destroying everyone's lives and be all like "ok I'll just stay here silently then, my bad folks"? The boy is already unstable enough without having to carry the burden of extinguishing humanity AND failing to save Ayanami. Had the crew explained everything to him he would most likely enter a state of denial. As soon as he heard Rei's voice he would do the exact same decision he made without knowing what was going on. He would seek comfort in a familiar voice trying to rescue him from people that treated him with disdain and told him a lot of things he had no idea if it were actually true or not. Misato even told him that the Rei that was saving him wasn't the one he knew and even then he refused to believe it and accepted Rei's help. I REALLY doubt explaining the situation earlier would have helped much. The only reason he could still rationalize after kaworu told him the truth was because he offered hope in the form of the spears later, and he was the only happy thing Shinji could cling on. |
YunoleffApr 29, 2013 10:23 AM
Lynx_7 said: Not really. At least, I don't think the difference is significant enough to warrant weaker development. Something that was obvious since the beginning was that the Rebuilds wouldn't have as much time as the TV series to develop the plot and characters. 24 episodes x 24 minutes = 9 hours and 36 minutes 1 hour 40 minutes + 1 hour 52 minutes + 1 hour 46 minutes + 2 hours = 7 hours and 18 minutes |
JoshApr 29, 2013 11:19 AM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Really pissed that Mari is so underused in this movie. All she did was offer witty lines, and she easily had one of the best parts of 2.22 with her Beast Mode. |
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Araby said: Not really. At least, I don't think the difference is significant enough to warrant weaker development. 24 episodes x 24 minutes = 9 hours and 36 minutes 1 hour 40 minutes + 1 hour 52 minutes + 1 hour 46 minutes + 2 hours = 7 hours and 18 minutes 2 hours and 18 minutes less is a LOT of time when telling a story, specially one so full of stuff like eva's. 2h18min would make a whole new movie (eva 5.0) with a longer running time than the ones we have now just to sort of even out. Not to mention you didn't take into account the director cuts of eps 20~24, episodes 25~26 and End of Evangelion, which widens the gap even more. We also don't even know if the last movie is going to be 2 hours long, which I honestly don't expect it to be. Each movie would have to be approximately 2h15min long to be more or less even with the tv series minus EoE. That's 20~35 minutes more than what we have now. Considering just what an episode of the tv series could accomplish with that time, it's safe to say the movies would have benefited a lot from longer running times, specially regarding character development. |
| What a HUGE disappointment, this movie was shitty 3.33/10 |
Zero_samaApr 29, 2013 1:12 PM
| love Hikaru Utada now I have to wait 'til the next movie for my Shinji fix. :< |
| I never really hated Shinji before, other than a scene or two in EoE that annoyed me, but when Shinji ignored Kaworu and kept crawling towards the spears despite his warning.... Before that, Misato hardly explained shit to Shinji and just told him Willie was against NERV without explaining the reasons. Yeah, like Shinji's supposed to magically know why they're fighting NERV. If she explained why they're fighting, it may have helped Shinji understand what's going on and could of possibly stopped him from leaving. Shinji feels even more easy to manipulate than usual. Asuka is confusing, she's sensible at times, and at the end she's suddenly taking care of him. It's probably because she's ordered to or she has feelings for him. I can't really trust Mari, something about her is just suspicious. The father's selfishness continues to astound me, like father like son. On a positive note, I thought Sakura was cute along with Mari and Asuka. Misato looked kind of cool. I liked the overall animation, some of the tracks in the OST were pretty good. I also liked the ending theme in the credits. Kaworu's death in front of Shinji was pretty sad was done well. This was my least favorite of the Rebuild movies so far, though I'm still looking forward to the new movie, just so I can see how it ends(unless they decide to expand on it even more). I wish I could give this a 7.5, but I guess I'll just give it a 8 because I enjoyed 2/3 of the movie. |
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Lynx_7 said: I don't think the basics were enough and they waited too long to tell him what they did. They never explained the main thing he did wrong and why it was wrong. He had to go somewhere else to find out that information. You would think they would want to make it very clear what he did wrong, to at least give him a chance to learn from it. If someone were to commit a crime in real life (intentional or not) and were to ask the police what he did wrong, they would answer. The suspect would likely be told what he did wrong even if he didn't ask. I find it unusual nobody told Shinji his wrongdoings, even if it was to purposefully make him feel guilty. When Rei came, they told him it wasn't her....but how is Shinji supposed to know that? They didn't even say she might be a clone, a trick or anything like that. If you were in Shinji's shoes, you would think it was her too, because you would have no reason to believe it isn't her. This might have been done storytelling, but I find it to be a very annoying catalyst for storytelling. There are other ways to achieve similar results. |
| I also think it was strange that nothing was communicated to Shinji by Misato or anyone in NERV, other than he did do something terribly wrong. I feel like they didn't feel the need to tell him, considering they were just going to keep him in quarantine, and that he was going to do nothing from now on. In addition to the resentment they probably feel towards him. I don't think they really expected the Rei clone to come and take Shinji though, and the fact that she didn't pull the trigger on the spot means she still has at least some care left for him, otherwise she would have pulled the trigger and killed him knowing that he could still trigger the 4th impact. I am going to watch it again so I can pick up on everything in case I missed something. As for the 14 year time jump, I can't really think of a reason that it was 14 years in particular, other than maybe the age of the pilots. I don't mind it too much though. I hope they use Mari and really all of the pilots in the next movie, because Mari was purely support in this film. I am curious as to what is going to become of Shinji, if he's going to pilot Eva, what is he going to pilot? Eva unit 01 is the power source for the Wunder. |
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| I don't understand what significance of the time skip. No one become an old man, why even have a 14-year time skip instead of several months or a few years. The 14 years timeskip felt quite rushed... hope for a good ending in last episode.... 1 more thing.... I like the younger sister of Touji :3 so mature |
| Honestly? I wasn't that bad. From the way some people were talking about it, it sounded as if it was the Evangelion equivalent of the Phantom Menace. |
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penguindrum264 said: Before that, Misato hardly explained shit to Shinji and just told him Willie was against NERV without explaining the reasons. I've seen this a couple of times already in this topic. Is this some mock-nickname given to the organisation? Or did all the people really get it wrong? They are called WILLE and not WILLIE. What kinda ridiculous name would that be? |
| Okay...I thought the remakes were supposed to make MORE sense not less. And are they all freaking morons or something? Maybe if they just told Shinji what the hell was going on, maybe he wouldn't have piloted the eva? Did any of them think of that? And just how the hell did they pull Shinji out of Unit 1? ugh so much more I can rant about. This movie just felt like one big troll on Eva fans everywhere. Oh and lastly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGy4RimdR9o WHERE THE HELL WAS ALL OF THIS IN THE MOVIE?!! I can understand why Shinji is so pissed off, this movie made no sense!! I'll say it right now, I HATED this movie. |
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Raigrex said: lol, the preview for 3.0 in Eva 2.0 just seems like a short glimpse on what happened between 2.0 and 3.0 (in 14 years) rather than the preview for 3.0 itself, well I would think that's what they intended and just leave it at that xD My thoughts exactly. I found that very odd. |
delacroix91 said: THey already started repeating things since 1.0 .And 3.0 wasnt much different in "char development"Does anyone notices there is a repeat sign (music) on the end of after credit. Why? Does it means that they gonna repeat something? |
delacroix91 said: It's the Japanese title of 4.0, like Jo, Ha, Q were. It will probably also have a pronounciation later on.Does anyone notices there is a repeat sign (music) on the end of after credit. Why? Does it means that they gonna repeat something? |
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| Uhm... I didn't really grasp what it was about -_-' Except that they just HAD to kill Kaworu again. It's far too cruel, arrrgh. |
| Like everyone else, I am questioning the fact that all of this could have been avoided by telling Shinji the truth. But nope, otherwise there'd be none of this confusing plot to go around. I mean c'mon. If you really really wanted to prevent the Fourth Impact, at least tell Shinji why he can't pilot an Eva. Instead of dangling the chance of him piloting an Eva and screwing up things in front of him. Also, why was everyone mad at Shinji. It's not like he could've done anything else at the end of 2.0. He actually chose to fight when it proved that the Dummy plug couldn't be used. It wasn't his fuckin' fault. Massive facepalm throughout the movie. Things I did like though: Mari - for some reason I like her character and design 100x better than everyone else. She seems like what an Evangelion character would be if it started in the 2000s). Despite the original characters and even the timeskip, they all still look like they're straight out of the 90s. Gendou cosplaying as Cyclops. Actually he honestly looked silly. Kowaru's character (though killed off soon...). I like how the seiyuu always plays those shonen-ai characters. |
option-ivApr 30, 2013 11:56 AM
WolfWood37 said: Oh and lastly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGy4RimdR9o WHERE THE HELL WAS ALL OF THIS IN THE MOVIE?!! I can understand why Shinji is so pissed off, this movie made no sense!! I'll say it right now, I HATED this movie. I was about to post about that too after having watched Eva 2.22 in English dubbed (felt almost the same as the TV series with some minor irks with the new voices that just wasn't the same as the old ones) and as I watched the preview just feeling slapped in the face... I especially like the top comment "YOU LYING F*CKS!" Maybe they'll put it in 4.0? Perhaps they may actually tell Shinji about what happened this time? I really wanna see that scene with the four Rei's. If that was just meant to give the viewer just seconds of what happened in the past 14 years... That would be the biggest troll in animation. |
radleApr 30, 2013 12:09 PM
| Feeling Down? Healing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXr0L4pOnV8 Soothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT3o_BBH61c Interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UpZnSjMko4 Female? Gotcha covered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8cOqzku9zA ...yeah |
| The movie made no sense. They didn't explain how they got Shinji out, why it took 14 years. Why did Misato and the rest defect, how they built that ship, Kaworu's Eva 06 and what happened there. How Mari knows what is going on, where the real Rei is and how she got in that test tube, how Seele went from shutting down NERV to being useless, etc... I could go on and on. Why did Misato, Asuka, and the rest not explain what was going on instead of acting like assholes? I just don't get it. I mean this movie was the end of the series all over again. |
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radle said: WolfWood37 said: Oh and lastly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGy4RimdR9o WHERE THE HELL WAS ALL OF THIS IN THE MOVIE?!! I can understand why Shinji is so pissed off, this movie made no sense!! I'll say it right now, I HATED this movie. I was about to post about that too after having watched Eva 2.22 in English dubbed (felt almost the same as the TV series with some minor irks with the new voices that just wasn't the same as the old ones) and as I watched the preview just feeling slapped in the face... I especially like the top comment "YOU LYING F*CKS!" Maybe they'll put it in 4.0? Perhaps they may actually tell Shinji about what happened this time? I really wanna see that scene with the four Rei's. If that was just meant to give the viewer just seconds of what happened in the past 14 years... That would be the biggest troll in animation. All the events depicted in the Evangelion 3.0 preview are implied to have occurred during the fourteen year time lapse. I can understand why there is so much unrest and discontent over the movie, but keep it real. All your fantasies of your idealized Evangelion will never come true. Nor does your anger consolidate the false notion that Evangelion 3.0 was a bad movie. I think that everyone is letting their irrational emotions get in the way of seeing the bigger picture, but I guess you can't fight it. In truth, I'm only irked by the lack of Mari Illustrious Makinami screen time that they allocated for the third movie. She is undoubtedly the best girl. Well, having her save the world only slightly compensates for the lack of her presence. |
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| I get that they are implied, but they don't explain what happened. If they showed a flashback or something to explain what is going on, they I wouldn't be complaining. But no they decided to keep us, like Shinji, in the dark about what happened. I just don't understand that choice to keep people in the dark. |
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| Anno does it again. The wait for 4.0 will be long and hard. |
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Thess said: Wyvern-Ventrue said: lanblade said: So Mari is officially a clone too? I thought that was Asuka's mother. She was a researcher involved with project E so it wouldn't rule out a meeting with Yui and Shinji. Also, she looks just like Asuka with Mari's glasses. That woman resembles to the mistress of Asuka's father in the manga (Asuka there is a test tube baby from other donor, since her mother could never conceived with her husband). Incidentally, Asuka's unexplored 'rival' is the biological daughter of her father and that woman, her design was one of the prototype of Mari. Food for thought. They could be stepsisters. Now that you mention it, they changed Asuka's last name to ShikiNAMI so now it's similar to Rei AyaNAMI and Mari MakiNAMI......... |
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xrobo said: Now that you mention it, they changed Asuka's last name to ShikiNAMI so now it's similar to Rei AyaNAMI and Mari MakiNAMI......... Shikinami, Makinami, and Ayanami are all WWII era Japanese destroyers, whereas Sohryu was a WWII era Japanese aircraft carrier (as was Katsuragi, for that matter). Asuka probably got a rename so she wouldn't be the "odd man out" in terms of the thematic naming. Meanwhile the kanji used for "Ikari" in Shinji's name means anchor. I have to say though, this movie did a great job of making the viewer feel like he was in Shinji's shoes. As for why no one on the Wunder explained to Shinji what the hell was going on, I dunno, perhaps there simply wasn't enough time? I mean after Shinji comes to they're attacked by several of the Nemesis series (Evangelion Mark 04C to be precise), and after that's taken care of Ritsuko does start to explain things to Shinji before, Asuka stops by for a minute to say hi and then Ayanami shows up in the Mark 09. And with Shinji's state of mind it's very possible he might not have believed most of it anyway. I mean hell, look at how he reacts when Misato tells him that Rei was gone and he didn't save her. Edit: delacroix91 said: Does anyone notices there is a repeat sign (music) on the end of after credit. Why? Does it means that they gonna repeat something? Wikipedia said: A double bar-line (or double bar) can consist of two single bar-lines drawn close together, separating two sections within a piece, or a bar-line followed by a thicker bar-line, indicating the end of a piece or movement. I'm pretty sure || is the subtitle of the final movie, with the colon serving to separate it from the main title of the movie franchise (ala ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版:序, ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版:破, and ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版:破) Edit(true)^2: On another note, hahaha holy shit, well played Anno. |
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| I comprehended two things from the movie: 1) Rei lost her soul or some shit. 2) Kaworu is so god damn gay and if you disagree you are either in painful denial or wrong or both. |
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ihateeveryone said: 2) Kaworu is so god damn gay and if you disagree you are either in painful denial or wrong or both. #bromance |
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