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HaXXspetten said: Notice how much better VN adaptations work when they actually follow the pacing of the source material :>
Well, the VN is much slower paced (obviously). I don't if it's as much about following the pace as it is including all the important moments and meanings of the VN. Even though a lot of monologues are being cut out, you still feel you're getting the same context and experience as the VN.
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HaXXspetten said: Notice how much better VN adaptations work when they actually follow the pacing of the source material :>
Well, the VN is much slower paced (obviously). I don't if it's as much about following the pace as it is including all the important moments and meanings of the VN. Even though a lot of monologues are being cut out, you still feel you're getting the same context and experience as the VN.
well yes that's what I meant, it'd be 60 episodes if it'd be literally the same
When the story is interesting I don't mind infodumps, especially when they're told by Kirei's voice actor. I'm sure I could listen to him talking gibberish for hours and remain entertained. #
By the way, if Shirou can't provide mana to Saber, , how can she manifest?
Because in Fate Zero,
it was mentioned that without mana a servant wouldn't be able to remain summoned for more than two days.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?
Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
geralt said: When the story is interesting I don't mind infodumps, especially when they're told by Kirei's voice actor. I'm sure I could listen to him talking gibberish for hours and remain entertained. #
By the way, if Shirou can't provide mana to Saber, , how can she manifest?
Because in Fate Zero,
it was mentioned that without mana a servant wouldn't be able to remain summoned for more than two days.
Because seiba is special like that. Jokes
Saber has a magical core. She creates mana as she breathes, just like a dragon. So she already has some reserved prana, before she disappears.
geralt said: When the story is interesting I don't mind infodumps, especially when they're told by Kirei's voice actor. I'm sure I could listen to him talking gibberish for hours and remain entertained. #
By the way, if Shirou can't provide mana to Saber, , how can she manifest?
Because in Fate Zero,
it was mentioned that without mana a servant wouldn't be able to remain summoned for more than two days.
That's the point. She will soon run out of mana. And she will disappear. At least it's what they are implying. For now.
geralt said: When the story is interesting I don't mind infodumps, especially when they're told by Kirei's voice actor. I'm sure I could listen to him talking gibberish for hours and remain entertained. #
By the way, if Shirou can't provide mana to Saber, , how can she manifest?
Because in Fate Zero,
it was mentioned that without mana a servant wouldn't be able to remain summoned for more than two days.
Because seiba is special like that. Jokes
Saber has a magical core. She creates mana as she breathes, just like a dragon. So she already has some reserved prana, before she disappears.
That. is. awesome.
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geralt said: When the story is interesting I don't mind infodumps, especially when they're told by Kirei's voice actor. I'm sure I could listen to him talking gibberish for hours and remain entertained. #
By the way, if Shirou can't provide mana to Saber, , how can she manifest?
Because in Fate Zero,
it was mentioned that without mana a servant wouldn't be able to remain summoned for more than two days.
Because seiba is special like that. Jokes
Saber has a magical core. She creates mana as she breathes, just like a dragon. So she already has some reserved prana, before she disappears.
That. is. awesome.
More awesome stuff here:
Incase you're wondering and want to know more cos I'm horrible at explanations
[spoiler]
Saber was born with the prana of a dragon, shown by the “Pendragon” name, as Uther ordered Merlin to grant his successor the factor of the dragon (竜の因子, ?).[1][8] She is the holder of the Element of the Red Dragon who carries the blood and very magical power of a phantasm in a human body, granting her a heart and unique Magic Circuits that transcend what can be achieved by normal humans and magi. Saber's Circuits are called a Magic Core, which is fundamentally different from those of a normal magus. While a magus' body can be considered a machine which creates magical energy, hers acts as a factory which creates magical energy. It functions as an enormous prana core with tremendous capacity that generates energy independent from her body simply through breathing like dragons.[8] This allows for a case where she herself is so out of energy that she is unable to access the energy without a proper "starting key" to get the extra energy flowing. Due to the characteristics of a Dragon, she has trouble with existences such as Siegfried, who is associated with tales of culling Dragons and weapons with an anti-dragon attribute such as Arondight.
The fault in her summoning caused the normal line between Servant and Master to not be connected, so she cannot replenish prana normally under Shirou. She is essentially limited to the amount with which she was summoned, around 1250 units of prana, placing her in a bad situation. It would help her even if he were only able to provide a small amount, but she doesn't receive any due to lack of a normal spiritual connection. She uses the energy of ten average mature magi just in the span of her first day. She would have to use a low amount for all of the subsequent battles, ten units assuming there was no damage, which would also place a limit on her use of Excalibur.
She has to suppress her prana usage to the utmost to keep from fading away. She can lower the amount consumed by regularly consuming food, sleeping as much as possible, and disarming herself, as she cannot go into spiritual form to reduce the burden on her Master like other Servants. She can regenerate eight units of prana while subsiding on six units by being idle during the day, allowing her to save two units for later battle. The amount is inefficient, as the first battles with Lancer and Berserker cost her two hundred fifty units to protect herself and restore her broken armor. The only ways to supply her with energy would be to force her to feed on human souls with a Command Spell, or to use alternate means than the inactive spiritually connected path to provide her with prana.
Using Excalibur a single time is enough to completely cripple her in this state. She is left unconscious and in constant pain as she fights to keep fading away. She is left in a state where she can barely run while she is awake, and she is physically on par with a weakly Shirou. It is possible to use the physical path between Saber and Shirou to provide her with energy through intercourse, as the semen of a magus is a cluster of energy. During Realta Nua, they instead utilize the great amount of undiluted magical energy within her core. It is meaningless without enough energy to start it, requiring a "fire" to burn in order to activate it. It doesn't matter how small it is, as it will resume activity once a path to send magical energy is connected. Shirou uses part of his own Circuits to start Saber's Circuits.
Shirou travels there in an unconscious spiritual form, and encounters a dragon that takes form in Saber's unconsciousness. Shirou calls it "an absurd 'true nature' that is appropriate for the best Servant." It attacks him to obtain the necessary starting energy, and once reactivated, it shows its nature as a prismatic circuit as it glows with all the colors of the rainbow and burns with a golden fire as its circulation restarts.[24] While the energy from either act is enough to keep her from fading away and allows her to actively battle, it is not able to allow her to use Excalibur. Attempting to use it straight away brings about a very weak version of it, and she instantly fades away after its use. She later regains enough energy to use it without instantly fading away, and bolstered by Avalon, she can use it four times in a row before completely disappearing.
KOTOMINE KIREI !!!!!!!!!! :D
FInally :)
I'm a little down because he won't be able to join the war, but i really hope he plots something and intereferes in it as a judge. I'm really looking forward to it xD
Well the production is amazing , but i still prefer the storyline of fate zero as the characters were grown ups so it was way more realistic and they had a deeper goal, nevertheless these main characters have much history (from fate zero).
And yeah dafuq was that rin ass-shaking toward shiro :O .... fanservice i guess xD
What a glorious info dump. That subtle fan service being Rin's magnificent behind and not so subtle fan-service being the one and only Kirei.
Too bad they didn't animate a certain Shirou calling Rin's face weird when he stumbled.
natsucule said: What a glorious info dump. That subtle fan service being Rin's magnificent behind and not so subtle fan-service being the one and only Kirei.
Too bad they didn't animate a certain Shirou calling Rin's face weird when he stumbled.
Kiarika said: Why there are so many characters without pupil in this?
Is it something important or just the animators being lazy?
Art style decision. Personally, I believe the faces is the only thing DEEN triumphs over Ufotable. The latter just look a bit too long and "derpy" for my tastes.
Necessary infodump... not much of anything else but at least next time we can jump straight into action with Illya. An ok episode I guess.
Was funny how Kirei was talking about the 'master' who revoked all his command spells :D
One thing I have to say though, I think Rin in novel was better, here her sudden tsundere-actions seems bit out of place for this show (idk, maybe it's because Ufo is toning down all other SoL scenes and making overall feel of the anime bit darker that those suddenly stand out so much?)
I really wonder how well they do that
back to back scene in ruins of graveyard cause it probably comes in next episode if I remember correctly.
Pretty sure that's Ufotable style. It was the same in Kara no Kyoukai. Well, I think so.
Oh, thanks;
cupc said:
This must be the most silly question in this thread so far. If you're being serious, it's just Ufotable's style.
Whether they are drawing pupils or not doesn't make any difference on the effort that has to be put in an episode.
Is it that silly? xD It makes them seem souless and, well, it may be important for the series :P Doesn't it bugs you?
Yep, I was kind of joking in the ''lazy'' part, the animation is beautiful in it :D
y123y said:
Apparently, its what the majority of the fans want, praising the graphics of this anime, etc...
I guess we will see more anime characters without pupils in future anime. The new moe
Wouldn't it be lovely? :D
mirakura said: He means souless eyes. They ARE souless, Kirei, Sakura, Kerry....It's not a mistake.
M3k4toku said: I hope this isn't a spoiler... But I'm curious to see why Rin likes/loves urm.. what's his name. Emiya Shirou?
You don't get to know till Heaven's Feel (let's hope it's next autumn or early 2016). For know you can safely presume she feels obliged to him as she said. Though I think it was more than obvious that she said that only becuase she need the excuse not to fight him.
In fact, it's Shirou who should be obliged to her. Twice.
Pretty much a lot of explanation in regards to the Holy Grail War, Servants, Masters, and their motivation. Even though there are no action in here, it is still amazing so far and introducing Kirei in here was great.
As always, the animation and art is still a masterpiece. Damn why did it have to end there.
That comes after Archer betrays them and sides with Caster.
Well, I know I remember what happens in UBW but it was some time since I play it so my bad.
Guess I will enjoy this adaptation bit more because of that.
Hearing all the information in this episode for 6th(?) time I felt like I could just easily skip this episode without any harm (save the Rin's ass and the end).
But for newcomers it is great they are explaining everything as they should.
Anyway, I wonder if they manages to portray Rin's personality truthfully in next episodes. Have to say Shirou is done well so far. And I wonder if they will make Illya say some notes about previous war in the third episode.