Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Episode 8 Discussion

RexZShadow said:
I'm just saying if 1 flaw can can make something that unlikeable must be hard to find stuff XD I mean so far there so few anime/manage you can say is almost flawless

Takuan_Soho said:


It's not 1 or 2 or 10, its just that, as almost everyone agreed even before it aired, the first arc was really really bad and the adaption made it worse.

But it's over now, while 9 schools may not be the best arc (I am really looking forward to Yokohama), I am hopeful it will be better, so if you have faith in the story, just let the better episodes come and most people will change their minds.

Maybe after 9 schools or by the end of the second cour we call all look back and be amazed at how good the first episodes ultimately were, but until then stop trying to pretend this has been anime gold, it hasn't all indications (projections, book sales, etc) show that. But that doesn't mean that things can't change.

And if they change no worries, people who know me know that when I think I am wrong I can be just as embarrassing apologizing as I am when disappointed (why don't I change you ask? Because I am not wrong that often because I am willing to grovel in my mistakes!), so if this shows turns around I will be the first to admit it and to tell all the supporters that they were right.

So bring on the nine school competition!

Takuan_Soho said:
So bring on the nine school competition!

shanimebib said:


It just started, and I am hoping that it will be better. I was put off by the first 7 episodes with the title Enrollment Part I, Enrollment Part II, Enrollment Part... and I am glad it is over.

I hope that the Suzaku lookalike will turn out to be an antagonist we will be able to applaud. Sometimes a proper villain can bring out the best of the protagonist, and will certainly help a mediocre one like this Tatsuya has been so far.

The only thing that has been going for me in this anime is the amazing seiyuu cast and Mibu Sayaka for iro iro I refuse to disclose :D.

Also knowing Madhouse, an animation firm which sticks to source material almost always is kind of reassuring that the anime will be good or bad if the novel is excellent or mediocre respectively at the very least.

Dizzee said:
damn it was pretty difficult for me to pay attention to understand the dialogues, least interesting episode so far

Preciize said:
Not much going on this episode, but it was still somewhat interesting. Didn't know Tatsuya was still actively working for the government/military. Wonder if his cover will get blown.



Only thing I took from it was that Tatsuya is a genius xD

forgiuse said:


Only thing I took from it was that Tatsuya is a genius xD

L-Ryoshi said:
LN readers have the opinion that if you are patient with this show, it will gradually get better. Well the difference between reading a book and watching an anime is the fact that both are suppose to show sufficient content to keep readers/viewers interested in the show. LN readers themselves have been complaining about how this adaptation keeps leaving out inner monologues and/or certain scenes here and there that would better allow anime only watchers understand the plot more. Thing is, they DID leave those scenes out, and as a result anime only viewers don't receive the same content as the LN readers to keep themselves sufficiently interested in continuing the series. It's not an issue about the series per say, but an issue regarding the anime adaptation.

With 8 episodes done, you really can't say that anime-only watchers haven't been patient. Considering that 1 cour animations are already almost reaching their final conclusion and ending, for 8 episodes to pass and still so much lack of interesting content to be present in this world to hold anime-only viewer's interest is a failure in itself. Yes you can make relative excuses that it's only been 1/3rd of the entire season, but the thing is 8 on comparing similar length animations, like Strike the Blood, just one or two episodes was sufficient for an anime only viewer like myself to pique interest and to make myself continue watching. A lot of the anime only viewers have stayed thus far only because of the promise by LN readers that "the next arc is infinitely better than the first", but since it took so long for the first arc to end, you can hardly blame anime only viewers from already forming an opinion that this show sucks, or that they've "seen enough", because in reality what has been served on their plates for the past 8 episodes has truly been mediocre plot and world building.

A good anime adaptation should not need LN readers to have to explain to anime only watchers just how the world works. Look at Log Horizon, regardless of whether you think the show was good or not, two monologues into the first episode and everyone already knew how the world worked and what was happening to the people there. Then with each additional episode, they would start off with explaining a little more about the world, so that by the end of the first 8 episodes, you would probably have to be an idiot if you still didn't know what the series and the world was about.

I don't blame the story, because I personally found it interesting enough to spend several days to scour the world wide web for an tidbits of information about the series and its characters. But that was only because I was interested in the Manga and then the LN in the first place.
Basing my opinion on JUST the anime adaptation thus far, I honestly can't say that I feel the same amount of interest in the world as I had previously. Regardless of how much or how little I know in comparison to my fellow anime viewer, The content in the anime alone thus far hasn't been interesting enough to hold my attention and make me mentally fixate on the next episode or next arc. The only reason why I'm hanging around is because I actually DO know what is in store AS A Manga/LN forum reader. If I were to judge solely on animation without consulting MAL or other sources, I think I would have already dropped this series out of frustration at the development of the first 6-7 episodes. I think this is a failure on the part of the anime direction (i.e. the directors fault).

A good anime series should not NEED it's LN fans to assure Anime-only fans keep watching the anime for fear of missing the "Good stuff" down the line. A good anime adaptation should have the ability to hold a viewer's interest from the get-go and ensure that they don't lose interest, regardless of how many mysteries remain unsolved after 7 or 8 episodes.

Seriously, as a Manga reader with limited knowledge regarding the later arcs in the LNs, if I had to objectively give an honest opinion about Tatsuya thus far, all I can say is that Adidas seriously needs to sign him up (Impossible is Nothing). The anime adaptation really doesn't do enough to indicate/implicate otherwise.

minouneetzoe said:
Wait, so the Silver dude weapon designer is also Tatsuya? What that guy isn't? Maybe he's also a nordic god or even a magical girl..?

Seriously though, I found the sudden mood change a bit weird. I mean, at the end of the last episode, Suzaku red hair guy was introduced to us in a bloody way and in this episode, they chit-chat about an uncoming sport event...

I can't believe some people still doubt his talent. Come on, that guy saved and neutralized a whole terrorist organization by himself, but nahh, he can't be good enough for our intrascholar sport event.

minouneetzoe said:

I can't believe some people still doubt his talent. Come on, that guy saved and neutralized a whole terrorist organization by himself, but nahh, he can't be good enough for our intrascholar sport event.

AzuStar said:
Honestly... i didn't think this show was good/popular enough to have dedicated haters >.> but oh well, it will probably get a 2nd season then.

anyways loving this show. how many episodes is it? with how its trying to build the world, it should be at-least 24-26.

minouneetzoe said:
Wait, so the Silver dude weapon designer is also Tatsuya? What that guy isn't? Maybe he's also a nordic god or even a magical girl..?