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Feb 2, 2015 12:55 PM
#2951
I have no doubt in my mind that Ulysses chapter 3 is a parody of pretentious elitists, the same ones who went on to analyze Ulysses. |
Feb 2, 2015 12:57 PM
#2952
LAOG said: But toei is garbage at animating. The struggle. considering one season ran for a year and they didn't have a huge budget they did a good job imo. it looks better than the remake, honestly... Paulo27 said: I like how our tastes are like complete opposite of each other, Pleiades seems like the weaker series to me. i wasn't so fond of the latest seasons of prillya and nanoha, so i don't have high expectation for those lol. would be cool if nanoha vivid was more like the first + second season again though. |
Feb 2, 2015 12:58 PM
#2953
JizzyHitler said: KokkoStar said: see while they have produced so much good i cannot find it in me to praise sunrise at all, cause for all their good they are one of the biggest assholes when it comes to fucking with their talent's visions in the dumbest ways, its almost to the point where you wonder how much better alot of their stuff would had been if they hadnt been the producers, like G-gundam was great as is but had they not meddled so much to the point where the director was in outright war with the execs and had to add shit he didnt want like that tedious as fuck tournament arc midway through it could had been stellar.Sunrise is God. Yeah they hate Tomino too, and the feelings are mutual. Victory, F91 and Zeta could have been much better. It was an exaggeration but I do still like their stuff a lot. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:00 PM
#2954
As long as you have "proof" to back up your interpretation I think they're all valid. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:01 PM
#2955
Zergneedsfood said: KokkoStar said: And the problem with far-fetched interpretations is that they are more often than not, bereft of any legitimate proof.As long as you have "proof" to back up your interpretation I think they're all valid. Das wut im talkin bout m80 |
Feb 2, 2015 1:01 PM
#2956
Zergneedsfood said: cupc said: Because I don't like far fetched interpretations. They keep people from accurately understanding a work and often encourages chasing irrelevant and tangential portions to a story to a wrong/misguided conclusion.Why is that a problem to you? I think it's interesting to read far-fetched interpretations, even if I don't believe them myself. But if the work gave people something else to think about, is it really bad that they didn't understand the work as intended. (=As you did) Zergneedsfood said: KokkoStar said: And the problem with far-fetched interpretations is that they are more often than not, bereft of any legitimate proof.As long as you have "proof" to back up your interpretation I think they're all valid. This is a different case that I agree with. But as long as there is proof, I have nothing against different interpretations. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:03 PM
#2957
Madoka did "symbolism" right, and by that I mean it used metaphors that most people didn't get. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:03 PM
#2958
The author is dead. Paulo27 said: Madoka did "symbolism" right, and by that I mean it used metaphors that most people didn't get. Metaphors and symbols aren't the same thing. They're related, but not interchangeable. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:05 PM
#2959
Paulo27 said: Urobuchi 7deep9me.Madoka did "symbolism" right, and by that I mean it used metaphors that most people didn't get. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:05 PM
#2960
silverwalls said: Pleiades just seems like it'll be very plain to me, the ONAs were whatever but I don't see much happening in the TV series, while Fate/kaleid S2 was weaker than S1 at least it still had something going on.Paulo27 said: I like how our tastes are like complete opposite of each other, Pleiades seems like the weaker series to me. i wasn't so fond of the latest seasons of prillya and nanoha, so i don't have high expectation for those lol. would be cool if nanoha vivid was more like the first + second season again though. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:05 PM
#2961
Feaor said: Shinbou*Paulo27 said: Urobuchi 7deep9me.Madoka did "symbolism" right, and by that I mean it used metaphors that most people didn't get. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:06 PM
#2962
KokkoStar said: Yeah they hate Tomino too, and the feelings are mutual. Victory, F91 and Zeta could have been much better. It was an exaggeration but I do still like their stuff a lot. Really?? From What I heard It's that Tomino grew Sick of the Gundam franchise cuz he never intended it to have all these entries Also F91 was due to the economy thingy from what I hear |
Feb 2, 2015 1:08 PM
#2963
KokkoStar said: poor fucking tomino, i dont know why the guy didnt just get the fuck out of sunrise and work elsewhere, i mean after turn A he didnt even want to do anymore gundam and G-reco is just the result of more executive meddling renaming something that was meant to be its own IP, which really shows in the show, the whole UC backstory feels so shoe horned in and while im sure it'll lead into turn A sooner or later thats not hat hard to do.JizzyHitler said: KokkoStar said: Sunrise is God. Yeah they hate Tomino too, and the feelings are mutual. Victory, F91 and Zeta could have been much better. It was an exaggeration but I do still like their stuff a lot. I give the guy shit, but i can recognize the different between him as a director having flaws and the very obvious sunrise retardation, like victory first 5 episodes being out of order and action heavy, victory was suppossedly meant to be paced like turn A with little action which i can definitely see in many parts of the series especially since so many of the fights were super short like they were just tacked onto a finished script. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Feb 2, 2015 1:09 PM
#2964
Hand_of_the_King said: KokkoStar said: Yeah they hate Tomino too, and the feelings are mutual. Victory, F91 and Zeta could have been much better. It was an exaggeration but I do still like their stuff a lot. Really?? From What I heard It's that Tomino grew Sick of the Gundam franchise cuz he never intended it to have all these entries Also F91 was due to the economy thingy from what I hear The Zeta production was a warzone and they messed with Victory so Tomino got 200% mad and created those weird af suits and really weird suits. I've heard that the F91 situation was similar to Zeta. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:10 PM
#2965
Zergneedsfood said: cupc said: I think so. There's a lot of literary theorists out there these days, and I believe one of the prevailing theories is that a work is an interaction between the text/work/film/anime/whatever and the reader/viewer, and everything else apart from that relationship is, in essence, irrelevant. It's called reader-response theory, and I think while it's important that you get something out of the work, I still believe that author's intention is incredibly important and interpreting the work correctly is critical.But if the work gave people something else to think about, is it really bad that they didn't understand the work as intended. (=As you did) It's the same thing as reading an editorial and getting the argument of the journalist wrong. A lot of books or shows have a point that they want to make, and I think it's perfectly fair to say that it's very important to correctly understand what the point of the show is. But my point was, how do you say what the point of the show is? Just because you and the majority interprets a work in one way doesn't mean that's how it is. You could just as well be wrong, whereas the minority is correct. What is correct, is my question. That is, unless the author specifically states how his work is supposed to be seen. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:12 PM
#2966
KokkoStar said: the big thing that killed F91 was also a huge falling out between head writers(which was brought on by executive meddling)Hand_of_the_King said: KokkoStar said: Yeah they hate Tomino too, and the feelings are mutual. Victory, F91 and Zeta could have been much better. It was an exaggeration but I do still like their stuff a lot. Really?? From What I heard It's that Tomino grew Sick of the Gundam franchise cuz he never intended it to have all these entries Also F91 was due to the economy thingy from what I hear The Zeta production was a warzone and they messed with Victory so Tomino got 200% mad and created those weird af suits and really weird suits. I've heard that the F91 situation was similar to Zeta. Its really tragic to see how brutal gundam has been in the creative process, F91 was just a mess of a creation out of them all adn this really shows in how it ended up, while victory, G, and zeta were warzones they were still finished in the end and quite good despite their flaws, fucking f91 wasnt even 1/4th of the way done by the end of the warzone writing process, they only wrote 11 god damn episodes of it. Apparently in the levels of which shows got fucked with the most the order may as well go Zeta < G <<<<<<<<<<<<tomino's existence<<<<<<<<< F91 |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Feb 2, 2015 1:16 PM
#2967
JizzyHitler said: KokkoStar said: the big thing that killed F91 was also a huge falling out between head writers(which was brought on by executive meddling)Hand_of_the_King said: KokkoStar said: Yeah they hate Tomino too, and the feelings are mutual. Victory, F91 and Zeta could have been much better. It was an exaggeration but I do still like their stuff a lot. Really?? From What I heard It's that Tomino grew Sick of the Gundam franchise cuz he never intended it to have all these entries Also F91 was due to the economy thingy from what I hear The Zeta production was a warzone and they messed with Victory so Tomino got 200% mad and created those weird af suits and really weird suits. I've heard that the F91 situation was similar to Zeta. Its really tragic to see how brutal gundam has been in the creative process, F91 was just a mess of a creation out of them all adn this really shows in how it ended up, while victory, G, and zeta were warzones they were stioll finished in the end and quite good despite their flaws, fucking f91 wasnt even 1/4th of the way done by the end of the warzone writing process, they only wrote 11 god damn episodes of it. And this butchering was done just because the suits wanted to sell more gunplas. WTH doesn't Gundam hold like 90% of the plastic model market already? What more do they want? |
Feb 2, 2015 1:17 PM
#2968
What happened to the surprises Xnil promised? just fixing the img and nothing else? |
Feb 2, 2015 1:19 PM
#2969
The IMG tag isn't fixed, it's held on life support. It loads like ass. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:20 PM
#2970
KokkoStar said: all images load slower, even the avatars, anime pics...etcThe IMG tag isn't fixed, it's held on life support. It loads like ass. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:20 PM
#2971
After listening to this, i'm tempted to give Magi's first season a second chance. Reminds me of Castlevania SotN a little. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
Feb 2, 2015 1:21 PM
#2972
Zergneedsfood said: cupc said: I don't think anything is ever definitively correct, but there is an acceptable boundary of what is deemed "could be correct" and what is just strictly out of the question. It's all really based on how you use the information in a show, but I think there are interpretations that are unquestionably better and "more correct" than others.But my point was, how do you say what the point of the show is? Just because you and the majority interprets a work in one way doesn't mean that's how it is. You could just as well be wrong, whereas the minority is correct. What is correct, is my question. That is, unless the author specifically states how his work is supposed to be seen. Texhnolyze, for instance, has a wide variety of interpretations, few being necessarily more "correct" than the other. But I don't think anyone can really make a very strong argument that states that technology is portrayed overwhelmingly positively at the end of the show, or argue that one of Texhnolyze's primary messages is about how technology enhances the human condition, when most of the evidence is in the contrary. Sure, you might be able to say that Ichise's condition is an exception to the rule, but the general position is inherently indefensible because of the content of the show, and would be an "incorrect" interpretation. That's what I thought you'd answer, and it's how I see it too. Here we come a full circle back to the plausible proof. As long as a theory is backed by proof good enough (which is of course subjective) it is a correct way of interpreting something. But there is the boundary where one goes overboard - that's when thinking of something else is a good idea. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:21 PM
#2973
PriestSlayer said: [yt]s64jsWwAWrw[/ yt] After listening to this, i'm tempted to give Magi's first season a second chance. Reminds me of Castlevania SotN a little. Magi is worth a watch tbh. i really liked it as an anime only viewer. idk about the manga since people complain that the anime is horrible compared to it, but that's not something new. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:22 PM
#2974
PriestSlayer said: After listening to this, i'm tempted to give Magi's first season a second chance. Reminds me of Castlevania SotN a little. Shiro Sagisu does wonders Ma Boy |
Feb 2, 2015 1:26 PM
#2975
I just watched a Bug's Bunny episode from WW II because I heard it was racist. It wasn't as bad as I expected. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:27 PM
#2976
Zergneedsfood said: Yo I was talking with Poeticjustice yesterday, and I told him I loved Shiro Sagisu. That guy's a legend. Underrated composer. His work on Evangelion 3.33 was amazing. [yt]-_x_q6IKDMg[/ yt] Woow, I have seen 3.0 twice but I never listened to the soundtrack. That is an amazing piece |
Feb 2, 2015 1:27 PM
#2977
Zergneedsfood said: I knew I heard that somewhere else before, Black Bullet has a track with chants just like those, the guy's really good.Yo I was talking with Poeticjustice yesterday, and I told him I loved Shiro Sagisu. That guy's a legend. Underrated composer. His work on Evangelion 3.33 was amazing. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:28 PM
#2978
StrayBotato said: I just watched a Bug's Bunny episode from WW II because I heard it was racist. It wasn't as bad as I expected. Would it help if I said something really racist right now? |
Feb 2, 2015 1:28 PM
#2979
Hehehe........The Dude also did Garzey's Wing and Battle Royal High School |
Feb 2, 2015 1:30 PM
#2980
mayukachan said: fst said: silverwalls said: y'all praise ikuhara and won't even watch sailor moon smh I watched it on YTV that counts right? WHAT i dont remember it being on YTV! It definitely was I mean, escaflowne was on YTV too |
Feb 2, 2015 1:30 PM
#2981
The Donald Duck nazi cartoon is propaganda at it's finest. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:31 PM
#2982
Have'nt watched Evangelion, but I remember getting addicted to the OST some time back |
Feb 2, 2015 1:31 PM
#2983
fst said: Not particularly but now I'm curious so yes.StrayBotato said: I just watched a Bug's Bunny episode from WW II because I heard it was racist. It wasn't as bad as I expected. Would it help if I said something really racist right now? |
Feb 2, 2015 1:32 PM
#2984
Paulo27 said: Zergneedsfood said: I knew I heard that somewhere else before, Black Bullet has a track with chants just like those, the guy's really good.Yo I was talking with Poeticjustice yesterday, and I told him I loved Shiro Sagisu. That guy's a legend. Underrated composer. His work on Evangelion 3.33 was amazing. I believe Black Bullet was also composed by Shiro Sagisu. Maybe he has a thing for these kinds of chants. But yeah, 3.33's OST was fucking godly. Also, I am now officially a third of the way through LoGH and I've yet to really be impressed. Hopefully Season 2 picks up soon. |
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:33 PM
#2985
Zergneedsfood said: cupc said: I have my fair share of reservations about 3.0, but the music was not one of them. The full versions of all the songs are awesome, but I also recommend listening to the cut versions that were used in the movie, because I think those flow a bit better and I could see why they cut the music the way they did.Woow, I have seen 3.0 twice but I never listened to the soundtrack. That is an amazing piece If I had to name my favorite anime soundtrack produced in the last five years, Eva 3.0 takes the cake, easily. I'll definitely check out the full OST when I need background music. I doubt it can top Unicorn OST for me though, but then again it also has the feels factor going for it, being a part of such an epic chapter of Universal Century in general. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:35 PM
#2986
JabonHR said: Also, I am now officially a third of the way through LoGH and I've yet to really be impressed. Hopefully Season 2 picks up soon. Episodes 45 to 57 is probably what you want. i know how you feel, episodes 28-40 something are kinda mediocre. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:38 PM
#2987
Before i leave, here's an adorable little song, i'd buy it for sure. Food porn <3 |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
Feb 2, 2015 1:39 PM
#2988
StrayBotato said: fst said: Not particularly but now I'm curious so yes.StrayBotato said: I just watched a Bug's Bunny episode from WW II because I heard it was racist. It wasn't as bad as I expected. Would it help if I said something really racist right now? You asked for it... terrorism could be prevented if we just banned all brown people from flying. The barbaric sand niggers can just go fly around on their magic carpets Paraphrased from Ann Coulter by the way. I added more expletives, though. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:42 PM
#2989
PriestSlayer said: One of the best things this season. Very catchy.Before i leave, here's an adorable little song, i'd buy it for sure. Food porn <3 fst said: I wish I had a magic carpet.StrayBotato said: fst said: StrayBotato said: I just watched a Bug's Bunny episode from WW II because I heard it was racist. It wasn't as bad as I expected. Would it help if I said something really racist right now? You asked for it... terrorism could be prevented if we just banned all brown people from flying. The barbaric sand niggers can just go fly around on their magic carpets Paraphrased from Ann Coulter by the way. I added more expletives, though. For the record that's not the first time I read something like that on the internet. Also the episode I was talking about was making fun of Japan. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:44 PM
#2991
Well I was trying to show I care about you enough to tailor it to your nationality. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:46 PM
#2992
fst said: Pfft.Well I was trying to show I care about you enough to tailor it to your nationality. Of course you care about me. People care about stuff they like. Everyone likes potatoes. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:47 PM
#2993
oh shit i didnt know durarara's novel ended last month, i wonder if were gonna be getting a full adaptation with these 3 split cours, didnt 24 episodes cover 4 novels? So it sounds like they'd have to rush some to fit it all into 36 episodes. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Feb 2, 2015 1:49 PM
#2994
If there is a mecha I want to watch, it's Gunbuster. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:52 PM
#2995
how old were you when you realized you would never sit in a mecha? |
Feb 2, 2015 1:52 PM
#2996
tsudecimo said: its definetly a good one to give a go if you can look past its kind of high ecchi content at points, short, to the point, and more or less effective. theres some things id definetly of preferred to have gone differently but I cannot deny its many merrits.If there is a mecha I want to watch, it's Gunbuster. And again its only 6 episodes long, theres not much of a reason to at least try it |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Feb 2, 2015 1:54 PM
#2997
JizzyHitler said: Oh shit I didn't know that @_@oh shit i didnt know durarara's novel ended last month, i wonder if were gonna be getting a full adaptation with these 3 split cours, didnt 24 episodes cover 4 novels? So it sounds like they'd have to rush some to fit it all into 36 episodes. Noooo that makes me sad :( On the bright side the author may be able to finish Baccano! now... |
Feb 2, 2015 1:56 PM
#2998
JizzyHitler said: tsudecimo said: its definetly a good one to give a go if you can look past its kind of high ecchi content at points, short, to the point, and more or less effective. theres some things id definetly of preferred to have gone differently but I cannot deny its many merrits.If there is a mecha I want to watch, it's Gunbuster. And again its only 6 episodes long, theres not much of a reason to at least try it It's one of the most entertaining anime I have come across, and also one of my favorites. It's very well paced, every episode is just full of fun. The fights look very beautiful, the production values are glorious. The mechanical design is also very fabulous, and I like the pseudo-scientific aspect of the time going faster while in outer space, it brings a unique element to the story. The overwhelming 80s flair brings a last element of win to the whole package. The growth of Noriko from your average teenager grill into the hero of the humanity in just 6 episodes is glorious. |
Feb 2, 2015 1:57 PM
#2999
Killaclown said: how old were you when you realized you would never sit in a mecha? Never. I'm an aerospace engineer, I'll make it happen |
Feb 2, 2015 1:59 PM
#3000
cupc said: JizzyHitler said: tsudecimo said: If there is a mecha I want to watch, it's Gunbuster. And again its only 6 episodes long, theres not much of a reason to at least try it It's one of the most entertaining anime I have come across, and also one of my favorites. It's very well paced, every episode is just full of fun. The fights look very beautiful, the production values are glorious. The mechanical design is also very fabulous, and I like the pseudo-scientific aspect of the time going faster while in outer space, it brings a unique element to the story. The growth of Noriko from your average teenager grill into the hero of the humanity in just 6 episodes is glorious. It seemed fun, to me, and I really liked the character design and art. I'm going to download it now! Mecha world here I come D: |
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