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Oct 31, 2020 11:52 AM
#251
rafaelfserafim said: ssjokg said: Same energy here:That moment when it is Higurashi that pulls a Rezero moment instead of the other way around... Now, I understand that 2020 was a total shit show but damn... I mean, seriously? Tell me this is sarcasm. The club activities was really important this time, since that's why Keiichi won the doll, and the doll is a key item for all of this. Even more important since Keiichi giving the doll is a divergence point this time |
Oct 31, 2020 12:00 PM
#252
kofmaster said: Exactly. The club activities are actually part of the development of the story. When I saw this I was like: this is how people who started watching for horror (not even mystery) treat Higurashi's SoL events? I'm not much of a fan os SoL myself, but when I watched the old, its VN and the new, I enjoy them a lot, because they contrast the bright and dark moments. And in the situation you mentioned, it actually had an important plot relevance. They always have plot relevance, Higurashi isn't about just about horror. It's a mystery by its core, but has a lot of elements mixed in. Even the club activities can be thrilling.rafaelfserafim said: ssjokg said: That moment when it is Higurashi that pulls a Rezero moment instead of the other way around... Now, I understand that 2020 was a total shit show but damn... I mean, seriously? Tell me this is sarcasm. The club activities was really important this time, since that's why Keiichi won the doll, and the doll is a key item for all of this. Even more important since Keiichi giving the doll is a divergence point this time |
rafaelfserafimOct 31, 2020 12:12 PM
Oct 31, 2020 12:09 PM
#253
Higurashi is/has been always an anime that went from happy go lucky, fun and games, completely downhill to a true dispair situation. Both parts of Higurashi are important. Higurashi contains gore, but it is not based on gore. People who are only expecting one gory episode after another should think for themself if Higurashi truly fits their taste. |
Oct 31, 2020 12:21 PM
#254
DCEmperor said: Okay, so now were getting into the Gou version of the first half of my favorite arc in the original Higurashi. How will our expectations be subverted this time? I have a few theories. First, I wonder if, just like in Watanagashi-hen and in Meakashi-hen, in Watadamashi-hen we will have Shion going on her infamous rampage again, but with a different trigger. Personally, I'm wondering if, this time, Shion's rampage will be caused by jealousy over Mion impersonating her to get close to Keiichi and getting close to having a relationship with Keiichi. Oooh I think that's a good theory! I really hoping that Mion DOESN'T get Hinamizawa Syndrome, cause that would make me sad. Brushrop03 said: What? Did I miss an episode? This episode was terribly boring. Are you new to the show? If you saw the violent conclusion of Episode 4/Onidamashi, then you've not missed an episode. This is how Higurashi is structured. People focussing on ep 5 being too filler-y seem to be forgetting thi is exactly how the original show was. It's just that, with hindsight and knowledge of what is to come, you're waiting for the differences cause you know the setup. But this show is also for new fans (sorta??) so there has to be setup for each new arc laying the groundwork. Otherwise there's nothing to subvert or change. Higurashi has ALWAYS been happy-go-lucky filler antics swinging to despair and violence and mystery. I'm just waiting to see how things progress and whether we'll get some real spooks |
Oct 31, 2020 1:46 PM
#255
this time the doll was given to mion so i expect no bloodbath this arc? idk tho but shion was def not working at angel mart since it was just mion's cute side and the shion at the end was probably the real shion. interested to see how they develop the sonozaki family .. i see some ppl are already hating on this show, tho me personally i remember that when i first watched the original i was kinda iffy on the first few eps so i'd give it some time before i'll decide if its good or not hoho |
Oct 31, 2020 4:08 PM
#256
Cyanwasserstoff said: Higurashi is/has been always an anime that went from happy go lucky, fun and games, completely downhill to a true dispair situation. Both parts of Higurashi are important. Higurashi contains gore, but it is not based on gore. People who are only expecting one gory episode after another should think for themself if Higurashi truly fits their taste. Yeah, and the Happy part is really important to build up the Despair side. Higurashi isn't mindless gore after all. rafaelfserafim said: kofmaster said: Exactly. The club activities are actually part of the development of the story. When I saw this I was like: this is how people who started watching for horror (not even mystery) treat Higurashi's SoL events? I'm not much of a fan os SoL myself, but when I watched the old, its VN and the new, I enjoy them a lot, because they contrast the bright and dark moments. And in the situation you mentioned, it actually had an important plot relevance. They always have plot relevance, Higurashi isn't about just about horror. It's a mystery by its core, but has a lot of elements mixed in. Even the club activities can be thrilling.rafaelfserafim said: ssjokg said: Same energy here:That moment when it is Higurashi that pulls a Rezero moment instead of the other way around... Now, I understand that 2020 was a total shit show but damn... I mean, seriously? Tell me this is sarcasm. The club activities was really important this time, since that's why Keiichi won the doll, and the doll is a key item for all of this. Even more important since Keiichi giving the doll is a divergence point this time Also, the character design choice and cute moeish mottos/gags helps a lot building a huge contrast between the silly and despair parts. That's really charming, I enjoyed that reading Umineko too. |
Oct 31, 2020 4:09 PM
#257
milkiheart said: Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her.this time the doll was given to mion so i expect no bloodbath this arc? idk tho but shion was def not working at angel mart since it was just mion's cute side and the shion at the end was probably the real shion. interested to see how they develop the sonozaki family .. i see some ppl are already hating on this show, tho me personally i remember that when i first watched the original i was kinda iffy on the first few eps so i'd give it some time before i'll decide if its good or not hoho Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling. |
Oct 31, 2020 5:41 PM
#258
littleproblems said: milkiheart said: Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her.this time the doll was given to mion so i expect no bloodbath this arc? idk tho but shion was def not working at angel mart since it was just mion's cute side and the shion at the end was probably the real shion. interested to see how they develop the sonozaki family .. i see some ppl are already hating on this show, tho me personally i remember that when i first watched the original i was kinda iffy on the first few eps so i'd give it some time before i'll decide if its good or not hoho Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling. True, her motivation was the treatment she received from her family, but the doll was a catalyst. If the doll had absolutely nothing to do with it, then she would go on a rampage on every arc besides Minagoroshi, Matsuribayashi and the Satoko anime arc (I don't remember the name, sorry). I agree with you about the Shion in the end being actually Mion. I think fans want to shoehorn Shion in this episode because guessing is more fun, but everything "Shion" has done so far is in line with Mion's personality. I hope this anime doesn't try to cut corners and give that scene to Shion or I'll be very disappointed. |
Oct 31, 2020 5:56 PM
#259
That's my reading too. Throw in the VN crew who have always hated the anime and who have a desperate need to show off their imagined superiority. |
Oct 31, 2020 6:40 PM
#260
random_weirdo said: True, her motivation was the treatment she received from her family, but the doll was a catalyst. If the doll had absolutely nothing to do with it, then she would go on a rampage on every arc besides Minagoroshi, Matsuribayashi and the Satoko anime arc (I don't remember the name, sorry). Yep. The doll was the catalyst needed for Shion to go on a rampage. But, unfortunately, I think Mion has created a new catalyst for Shion to go batshit insane by impersonating Shion. Since Shion knows exactly how much better things are for Mion, she won't be happy about Mion pretending to be her just to make things even better for herself. Thus, the Shion we know and love will return and start her bloodbath, just like in the original. Or, since this show is all about subverting our expectations, maybe Mion somehow goes on a rampage because the audience is expecting Shion to go nuts. |
Oct 31, 2020 7:36 PM
#261
littleproblems said: Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her. Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling. I'm not quite sure what you mean about the red herring here. It's not like Shion's motivations ever lied with the doll, but in Mion's reaction to it. And what you mean by her remembering the wish is the only thing stopping her from rampaging? Where did you get this? She remembered the wish in every other chapter except the ones where she goes amok? So I guess next you're going to say that there's a PC chapter were Mion got the doll AND Shion went on a rampage. Also, pretty sure it's the otherway around. "People" hating on Deen's Higurashi are the ones who are secondaries or just trolling. DCEmperor said: Yep. The doll was the catalyst needed for Shion to go on a rampage. But, unfortunately, I think Mion has created a new catalyst for Shion to go batshit insane by impersonating Shion. Since Shion knows exactly how much better things are for Mion, she won't be happy about Mion pretending to be her just to make things even better for herself. Thus, the Shion we know and love will return and start her bloodbath, just like in the original. Or, since this show is all about subverting our expectations, maybe Mion somehow goes on a rampage because the audience is expecting Shion to go nuts. Like I mentioned above, rather than the Doll being the catalyst, it's more like a trigger for the catalyst - Mion's reaction (specifically tears iirc, so it doesn't exactly have to be the doll). I don't think the Impersonating is a sensible catalyst for this, as it's not anything unusual, pretty sure they did that on purpose on both sides from time to time. Also if it was instead Mion going on a rampage, that wouldn't quite make sense, tho I have to agree, that would make things very interesting for the future. |
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Oct 31, 2020 7:48 PM
#262
DCEmperor said: random_weirdo said: True, her motivation was the treatment she received from her family, but the doll was a catalyst. If the doll had absolutely nothing to do with it, then she would go on a rampage on every arc besides Minagoroshi, Matsuribayashi and the Satoko anime arc (I don't remember the name, sorry). Yep. The doll was the catalyst needed for Shion to go on a rampage. But, unfortunately, I think Mion has created a new catalyst for Shion to go batshit insane by impersonating Shion. Since Shion knows exactly how much better things are for Mion, she won't be happy about Mion pretending to be her just to make things even better for herself. Thus, the Shion we know and love will return and start her bloodbath, just like in the original. Or, since this show is all about subverting our expectations, maybe Mion somehow goes on a rampage because the audience is expecting Shion to go nuts. Mion's impersonation could be a factor. I think it could be Keiichi's insensitive comments: when Mion told him she was Shion, Keiichi replied something like "well yeah, that dress would never look good on Mion but it looks good on you". In the VNs he also makes a couple more comments that question Mion's feminity, so if they keep that in this version, they could be the new catalyst that hurts Mion and makes Shion go berserk (or Mion herself). |
Oct 31, 2020 8:03 PM
#263
Mion or Shion or whoever her name is was totally HOT in that cafe cosplay outfit! 5/5. |
Oct 31, 2020 8:41 PM
#264
Omochikaeri~ count - 3 nipaa~ count- 0 As someone who hasn't read the VN or watched the OG Higurashi years ago, I kept wondering if it was Mion or Shion the entire time. I feel like Shion only appeared in that last scene. Everything else was Mion. Mainly because if I recall, Shion's oppai is way bigger than Mion's lol. |
Oct 31, 2020 11:24 PM
#265
I'm going to laugh like a hyena when it turns out that it was Shion in the Angel Mort, and all of these pseudo intellectuals are howling in pain about how unfair it all is. |
Oct 31, 2020 11:46 PM
#266
NoviSun said: I'm going to laugh like a hyena when it turns out that it was Shion in the Angel Mort, and all of these pseudo intellectuals are howling in pain about how unfair it all is. I have to agree that the person in Angel Mort does fit way more the personality of Mion. In the OG Shion was by far not that shy and way less passive on Keiichi's provocations. In the OG, Mion was the one that impersonates as Shion to bring the Obento to Keiichi and I think that has not changed in Gou. She is very like Mion. The person in the end with the bikers seems like Shion. Mion never lost her cool like this. |
Nov 1, 2020 1:00 AM
#267
random_weirdo said: The doll is not a catalyst. It's a red herring. From Rika's POV she believes that the doll IS the catalyst. It's the reason why to Keiichi about it. I think, just like Onidamashi-hen, Rika will believe that this is the only thing that stops Shion, and go WTF HANYUU HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW? In the manga of Gou, the intro scene from episode 2 is attached to the end of Onidamashi-hen that plays out similarly, but she goes WTF HANYUU when she believed it was Onikakushi-like. She has this idea that because of Minagoroshi-hen that Keiichi giving Mion the doll stopped Shion, but it wasn't. I think that's what gave people the impression the doll matters, but rereading Meakashi-hen will help.littleproblems said: milkiheart said: this time the doll was given to mion so i expect no bloodbath this arc? idk tho but shion was def not working at angel mart since it was just mion's cute side and the shion at the end was probably the real shion. interested to see how they develop the sonozaki family .. i see some ppl are already hating on this show, tho me personally i remember that when i first watched the original i was kinda iffy on the first few eps so i'd give it some time before i'll decide if its good or not hoho Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling. True, her motivation was the treatment she received from her family, but the doll was a catalyst. If the doll had absolutely nothing to do with it, then she would go on a rampage on every arc besides Minagoroshi, Matsuribayashi and the Satoko anime arc (I don't remember the name, sorry). I agree with you about the Shion in the end being actually Mion. I think fans want to shoehorn Shion in this episode because guessing is more fun, but everything "Shion" has done so far is in line with Mion's personality. I hope this anime doesn't try to cut corners and give that scene to Shion or I'll be very disappointed. |
Nov 1, 2020 1:04 AM
#268
NoviSun said: Anyone who has read the VN doesn't hate the anime. I'd understand people who will grow to dislike Gou if character's characterizations get botched just like the DEEN anime, or if there's really bloody scenes like in episode 4 that defeat the themes of Higurashi. It's only really secondaries who like the botched DEEN adaptation who think the new designs are bad or some other arbitrary reason (which is objectively worse in the DEEN anime) for them to go off on.That's my reading too. Throw in the VN crew who have always hated the anime and who have a desperate need to show off their imagined superiority. |
Nov 1, 2020 1:14 AM
#269
Hulio said: littleproblems said: Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her. Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling. I'm not quite sure what you mean about the red herring here. It's not like Shion's motivations ever lied with the doll, but in Mion's reaction to it. And what you mean by her remembering the wish is the only thing stopping her from rampaging? Where did you get this? She remembered the wish in every other chapter except the ones where she goes amok? So I guess next you're going to say that there's a PC chapter were Mion got the doll AND Shion went on a rampage. Also, pretty sure it's the otherway around. "People" hating on Deen's Higurashi are the ones who are secondaries or just trolling. Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations. |
Nov 1, 2020 1:44 AM
#270
littleproblems said: Hulio said: littleproblems said: Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her. Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling. I'm not quite sure what you mean about the red herring here. It's not like Shion's motivations ever lied with the doll, but in Mion's reaction to it. And what you mean by her remembering the wish is the only thing stopping her from rampaging? Where did you get this? She remembered the wish in every other chapter except the ones where she goes amok? So I guess next you're going to say that there's a PC chapter were Mion got the doll AND Shion went on a rampage. Also, pretty sure it's the otherway around. "People" hating on Deen's Higurashi are the ones who are secondaries or just trolling. Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations. This is off topic but which version of the game, on PC, has all the arcs? And does it include the old console arcs? |
Nov 1, 2020 1:56 AM
#271
ssjokg said: I used 07th mod for the console arcs. I am sure there's a torrent on the typical website that has every arc.littleproblems said: Hulio said: littleproblems said: Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her. Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling. I'm not quite sure what you mean about the red herring here. It's not like Shion's motivations ever lied with the doll, but in Mion's reaction to it. And what you mean by her remembering the wish is the only thing stopping her from rampaging? Where did you get this? She remembered the wish in every other chapter except the ones where she goes amok? So I guess next you're going to say that there's a PC chapter were Mion got the doll AND Shion went on a rampage. Also, pretty sure it's the otherway around. "People" hating on Deen's Higurashi are the ones who are secondaries or just trolling. Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations. This is off topic but which version of the game, on PC, has all the arcs? And does it include the old console arcs? |
Nov 1, 2020 3:19 AM
#272
littleproblems said: ssjokg said: I used 07th mod for the console arcs. I am sure there's a torrent on the typical website that has every arc.littleproblems said: Hulio said: littleproblems said: Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her. Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling. I'm not quite sure what you mean about the red herring here. It's not like Shion's motivations ever lied with the doll, but in Mion's reaction to it. And what you mean by her remembering the wish is the only thing stopping her from rampaging? Where did you get this? She remembered the wish in every other chapter except the ones where she goes amok? So I guess next you're going to say that there's a PC chapter were Mion got the doll AND Shion went on a rampage. Also, pretty sure it's the otherway around. "People" hating on Deen's Higurashi are the ones who are secondaries or just trolling. Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations. This is off topic but which version of the game, on PC, has all the arcs? And does it include the old console arcs? Thanks a a lot!! Found one that has been there since 8/2019. Hopefully it is the most updated one. |
Nov 1, 2020 3:41 AM
#273
littleproblems said: As I was saying earlier...It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations. |
Nov 1, 2020 4:56 AM
#274
Nov 1, 2020 7:22 AM
#275
For those who are a abit confused about the time: 4th episode was 23th June 5th episode was 12th June from beginning There is time-reset. |
Nov 1, 2020 7:51 AM
#276
ovy7 said: Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.>_> People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
Nov 1, 2020 8:16 AM
#277
YumFrenchFrie said: ovy7 said: Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.>_> People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I dont think that would fit. A less surreal monogatari style would be PAFEKUTO. |
Nov 1, 2020 8:48 AM
#278
ssjokg said: YumFrenchFrie said: ovy7 said: >_> People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I dont think that would fit. A less surreal monogatari style would be PAFEKUTO. ssjokg said: Oh yeah. That could work.YumFrenchFrie said: ovy7 said: >_> People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I dont think that would fit. A less surreal monogatari style would be PAFEKUTO. |
Nov 1, 2020 9:33 AM
#279
Alfonse said: ovy7 said: >_> People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) You should watch the original before this one, honestly. I have a feeling this is a sequel so it'll make more sense if u do it that way I've watched the original, read the manga, and the visual novels, but tnx anyway :) (I thought it would be kinda obvious for old fans, as my signature is Rika and Bernkastel, with Bern's first poem from the VN) YumFrenchFrie said: ovy7 said: Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.>_> People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Yes,it's Battler. I'm also hoping for a remake of the Umineko anime, and they could even use the manga and adapt the story from there. It would likely be easier than adapting directly from the VN. |
ovy7Nov 1, 2020 9:37 AM
Nov 1, 2020 9:44 AM
#280
ovy7 said: Alfonse said: ovy7 said: >_> People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) You should watch the original before this one, honestly. I have a feeling this is a sequel so it'll make more sense if u do it that way I've watched the original, read the manga, and the visual novels, but tnx anyway :) (I thought it would be kinda obvious for old fans, as my signature is Rika and Bernkastel, with Bern's first poem from the VN) YumFrenchFrie said: ovy7 said: >_> People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Yes,it's Battler. I'm also hoping for a remake of the Umineko anime, and they could even use the manga and adapt the story from there. It would likely be easier than adapting directly from the VN. Dengekionline is giving the manga for free. Seems a pretty random thing so maybe they started some kind of shadow promotion? Or was it a late Rokkenjima Murder Case anniversary? Lol |
Nov 1, 2020 9:51 AM
#281
ssjokg said: Dengekionline is giving the manga for free. Seems a pretty random thing so maybe they started some kind of shadow promotion? Or was it a late Rokkenjima Murder Case anniversary? Lol Damn, I was so hyped for a sec but then found out it's only in Japan xD But hmm, maybe there's something more going on here.... Oh God, Ryukishi, don't hype me up for an Umineko anime remake, pls T_T |
Nov 1, 2020 10:38 AM
#282
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Nov 1, 2020 11:36 AM
#283
after episode 4 its ok to chill a little i guess before the storm comes in. |
Nov 1, 2020 12:06 PM
#284
NatsuDragneel12 said: You mean theafter episode 4 its ok to chill a little i guess before the storm comes in. fingernail torture :D If the scene appears |
Nov 1, 2020 12:08 PM
#285
funnyRunny said: i suppose it vvill be the fingernail torture and i think it vvill be more horrible than last time and maybe they'll add something nevv. or maybe they'll change the torture ? idk :DNatsuDragneel12 said: You mean theafter episode 4 its ok to chill a little i guess before the storm comes in. fingernail torture :D If the scene appears |
Nov 1, 2020 12:22 PM
#286
Hate to destroy your hopes, but that scene isn't part of this arc/arc that Gou tries to "fake". It's part of Meakashi-hen, which is arc 5 of the original story. This arc that Gou uses is Watanagashi-hen, which is arc 2. |
Nov 1, 2020 12:54 PM
#287
ovy7 said: Hate to destroy your hopes, but that scene isn't part of this arc/arc that Gou tries to "fake". It's part of Meakashi-hen, which is arc 5 of the original story. This arc that Gou uses is Watanagashi-hen, which is arc 2. Well they did throw in some Tsumihoroboshi in there so.... |
Nov 1, 2020 1:03 PM
#288
littleproblems said: Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations. Well I did read the VNs, or OG VNs to say. Had to google this and apparently this was only done for the PS versions. (Guess I was right) sounds like a nice addition tho. Guess I should one day get into all these special chapters too. |
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Nov 1, 2020 4:57 PM
#289
Hulio said: Also if it was instead Mion going on a rampage, that wouldn't quite make sense, tho I have to agree, that would make things very interesting for the future. In the original, Mion never went on a rampage. However, Gou is all about subverting both our expectations and Rika's. Since something happened that has made this time loop different from the original one, and all of Rika's predictions are failing, it wouldn't be surprising if something that could never happen in the original happened here. Hulio said: I don't think the Impersonating is a sensible catalyst for this, as it's not anything unusual, pretty sure they did that on purpose on both sides from time to time. But this time, Mion is impersonating Shion to get close to try to get a boyfriend, and we all know what happened to Shion's boyfriend. And if Shion notices the similarities between Keiichi and Satoshi... Cyanwasserstoff said: Higurashi is/has been always an anime that went from happy go lucky, fun and games, completely downhill to a true dispair situation. Both parts of Higurashi are important. Higurashi contains gore, but it is not based on gore. People who are only expecting one gory episode after another should think for themself if Higurashi truly fits their taste. Yes, exactly. The slice of life parts of Higurashi both serve to highlight the horror parts via contrast and to remind the audience of what the characters could have had together if it wasn't for Hinamizawa Syndrome fucking everything up And, honestly, the slice of life parts of Higurashi are surprisingly entertaining. Plus, mindless gore fest horror anime series aren't very good. It's horror anime series like this one, Elfen Lied, Shiki, and Shinsekai Yori that are truly good. NatsuDragneel12 said: after episode 4 its ok to chill a little i guess before the storm comes in. Shion is still one of the most terrifying anime villains of all time to me, so I really want to see what happens with her here. |
Nov 1, 2020 5:03 PM
#290
New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another. |
Brandon2149Nov 1, 2020 5:08 PM
Nov 1, 2020 5:15 PM
#291
Brandon2149 said: its reseted,everything happens again but different timeline or route vvhatever u vvanna call it,everything vvill end bad alvvays,Rika is trying to change the bad ends. i recommend u to vvatch the old ones tooNew viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another. |
Nov 1, 2020 5:16 PM
#292
Brandon2149 said: also don't compare it to gakkou gurashi,its nothing alike.New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another. |
Nov 1, 2020 5:21 PM
#293
Don't know why i even bother reading the forums to discuss this when OG watchers just spoil shit without tags. |
Nov 1, 2020 5:48 PM
#294
Brandon2149 said: New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another. Because the characters are in a time loop of sorts. In Watadamashi-hen, none of the characters (except one or maybe more) know what happened in Onidamashi-hen. Rena didn't just go crazy in Watadamashi-hen. She only went crazy in Onidamashi-hen. You would know this if you watched the original. And, you should catch on to it fairly quickly. |
Nov 1, 2020 7:23 PM
#295
Brandon2149 said: New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another. SoL is really important to build up the dark parts. I you have problems with full SoL episodes I recommend to watch this anime on 4-episodes-packs instead of watch 1 episode per week. You will understand the misteries soon. |
Nov 1, 2020 9:15 PM
#296
So Watadamashi-hen is underway, and they transitioned pretty abruptly tbh. I was expecting some more exposition after the hospital scene from last episode, but it seems like they are expecting you to understand what happened with Keiichi. Could be quite confusing for first-timers. As expected, it seems Higurashi Gou's Watadamashi-hen is closely following Watanagashi-hen(OG S1) but with a slight twist, like how the first arc, Onidamashi-hen followed Onikakushi-hen(OG S1) but with a slight twist. As far as the twist goes, they are changing some of the character interactions, which may/may not have an effect on the ensuing plot afterwards. For instance, In this Gou timeline, because of Rika's intervention (as seen above), Mion likely never confides with Shion about what Keiichi did, which also removes the catalyst for Shion. In the OG S1, The demon awakened in Shion only due to the small thing Keiichi did (ie. not giving Mion the doll and acknowledging her feminine side). Mion cried and confessed her feelings to Shion, which was the catalyst for Shion to remember Satoshi again in 1983. In the OG S1, because Keiichi didn't give Mion the doll, everything got screwed up, which is what Watanagashi-hen and Meakashi-hen were all about. But the bigger question is why Shion is disguising herself as Mion while walking home with Rena and Keiichi, despite not having any catalyst to do so(ie. since Keiichi gave Mion the doll). We can deduce that it was Shion based on her reaction to Keiichi's words, "Unlike Mion, Shion is really cute.." Since the reboot, unlike the OG still hasn't introduced Satoshi, and the apparent lack of the Satoshi catalyst, it seems there might be some other reason for the impersonation. We also know that in both OG S1 and the reboot, Mion is the one who gives Keiichi the bento. We can deduce this based on Mion's blushing reaction to Keiichi speaking about the bento the next day. It'll be interesting to see how these changes to the plot will shape up in the next episode! |
Nov 1, 2020 9:45 PM
#297
@DCEmperor Yeah, Higurashi has always been a Psychological-Mystery-Thriller in a Horror setting. There it is extremely important, that the normal life and crazy life blend in each other perfectly, which is did. The why do harmless people go insane, why are certain events set in stone, what is the cause of all this and more importantly, what does Episode 25 of the original mean in the importance of the narrator. Episode 25 took me by surprise and let me re-think the first season of Higurashi completely. I was fooled to believe, that everything happened at face value, before this event |
Nov 1, 2020 10:15 PM
#298
This place is spoiler city with all the troll, malcontents and VN fans who want to show how intelligent they are. |
Nov 2, 2020 12:56 AM
#299
Thankfully for MORE Rena scenes, i tought i will not able to see her again after what happened last episode. What happened in the end? This anime is weirdly good af |
B O C C H I S W E E P |
Nov 2, 2020 1:56 AM
#300
NoviSun said: This place is spoiler city with all the troll, malcontents and VN fans who want to show how intelligent they are. If we annoy you because we love this series and want to GASP discuss the story and guess what each mystery will bring us then you can quietly leave. What you are doing, trying to bait certain fans with insults every few posts, is harassment and I kindly ask you to stop. |
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