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Oct 31, 2020 11:52 AM

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rafaelfserafim said:
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That moment when it is Higurashi that pulls a Rezero moment instead of the other way around...

Now, I understand that 2020 was a total shit show but damn...
Same energy here:

I mean, seriously? Tell me this is sarcasm.


The club activities was really important this time, since that's why Keiichi won the doll, and the doll is a key item for all of this. Even more important since

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kofmaster said:
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Same energy here:

I mean, seriously? Tell me this is sarcasm.


The club activities was really important this time, since that's why Keiichi won the doll, and the doll is a key item for all of this. Even more important since

Exactly. The club activities are actually part of the development of the story. When I saw this I was like: this is how people who started watching for horror (not even mystery) treat Higurashi's SoL events? I'm not much of a fan os SoL myself, but when I watched the old, its VN and the new, I enjoy them a lot, because they contrast the bright and dark moments. And in the situation you mentioned, it actually had an important plot relevance. They always have plot relevance, Higurashi isn't about just about horror. It's a mystery by its core, but has a lot of elements mixed in. Even the club activities can be thrilling.
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Higurashi is/has been always an anime that went from happy go lucky, fun and games, completely downhill to a true dispair situation.

Both parts of Higurashi are important. Higurashi contains gore, but it is not based on gore. People who are only expecting one gory episode after another should think for themself if Higurashi truly fits their taste.
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Okay, so now were getting into the Gou version of the first half of my favorite arc in the original Higurashi. How will our expectations be subverted this time?

I have a few theories.

First, I wonder if, just like in Watanagashi-hen and in Meakashi-hen, in Watadamashi-hen we will have


Oooh I think that's a good theory! I really hoping that

Brushrop03 said:
What? Did I miss an episode? This episode was terribly boring.

Are you new to the show? If you saw the violent conclusion of Episode 4/Onidamashi, then you've not missed an episode. This is how Higurashi is structured.

People focussing on ep 5 being too filler-y seem to be forgetting thi is exactly how the original show was. It's just that, with hindsight and knowledge of what is to come, you're waiting for the differences cause you know the setup. But this show is also for new fans (sorta??) so there has to be setup for each new arc laying the groundwork. Otherwise there's nothing to subvert or change. Higurashi has ALWAYS been happy-go-lucky filler antics swinging to despair and violence and mystery. I'm just waiting to see how things progress and whether we'll get some real spooks
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this time the doll was given to mion so i expect no bloodbath this arc? idk tho but shion was def not working at angel mart since it was just mion's cute side and the shion at the end was probably the real shion. interested to see how they develop the sonozaki family ..

i see some ppl are already hating on this show, tho me personally i remember that when i first watched the original i was kinda iffy on the first few eps so i'd give it some time before i'll decide if its good or not hoho
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Cyanwasserstoff said:
Higurashi is/has been always an anime that went from happy go lucky, fun and games, completely downhill to a true dispair situation.

Both parts of Higurashi are important. Higurashi contains gore, but it is not based on gore. People who are only expecting one gory episode after another should think for themself if Higurashi truly fits their taste.


Yeah, and the Happy part is really important to build up the Despair side.

Higurashi isn't mindless gore after all.

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kofmaster said:


The club activities was really important this time, since that's why Keiichi won the doll, and the doll is a key item for all of this. Even more important since

Exactly. The club activities are actually part of the development of the story. When I saw this I was like: this is how people who started watching for horror (not even mystery) treat Higurashi's SoL events? I'm not much of a fan os SoL myself, but when I watched the old, its VN and the new, I enjoy them a lot, because they contrast the bright and dark moments. And in the situation you mentioned, it actually had an important plot relevance. They always have plot relevance, Higurashi isn't about just about horror. It's a mystery by its core, but has a lot of elements mixed in. Even the club activities can be thrilling.


Also, the character design choice and cute moeish mottos/gags helps a lot building a huge contrast between the silly and despair parts. That's really charming, I enjoyed that reading Umineko too.

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this time the doll was given to mion so i expect no bloodbath this arc? idk tho but shion was def not working at angel mart since it was just mion's cute side and the shion at the end was probably the real shion. interested to see how they develop the sonozaki family ..

i see some ppl are already hating on this show, tho me personally i remember that when i first watched the original i was kinda iffy on the first few eps so i'd give it some time before i'll decide if its good or not hoho
Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her.
Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling.
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littleproblems said:
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this time the doll was given to mion so i expect no bloodbath this arc? idk tho but shion was def not working at angel mart since it was just mion's cute side and the shion at the end was probably the real shion. interested to see how they develop the sonozaki family ..

i see some ppl are already hating on this show, tho me personally i remember that when i first watched the original i was kinda iffy on the first few eps so i'd give it some time before i'll decide if its good or not hoho
Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her.
Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling.


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littleproblems said:

Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling.
That's my reading too. Throw in the VN crew who have always hated the anime and who have a desperate need to show off their imagined superiority.
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Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her.
Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling.

I'm not quite sure what you mean about the red herring here.
It's not like Shion's motivations ever lied with the doll, but in Mion's reaction to it.
And what you mean by her remembering the wish is the only thing stopping her from rampaging?
Where did you get this? She remembered the wish in every other chapter except the ones where she goes amok?
So I guess next you're going to say that there's a PC chapter were Mion got the doll AND Shion went on a rampage.

Also, pretty sure it's the otherway around. "People" hating on Deen's Higurashi are the ones who are secondaries or just trolling.
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Like I mentioned above, rather than the Doll being the catalyst, it's more like a trigger for the catalyst - Mion's reaction (specifically tears iirc, so it doesn't exactly have to be the doll).
I don't think the Impersonating is a sensible catalyst for this, as it's not anything unusual, pretty sure they did that on purpose on both sides from time to time.
Also if it was instead Mion going on a rampage, that wouldn't quite make sense, tho I have to agree, that would make things very interesting for the future.

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Mion or Shion or whoever her name is was totally HOT in that cafe cosplay outfit!
5/5.


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As someone who hasn't read the VN or watched the OG Higurashi years ago, I kept wondering if it was Mion or Shion the entire time.

I feel like Shion only appeared in that last scene. Everything else was Mion.
Mainly because if I recall, Shion's oppai is way bigger than Mion's lol.
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I'm going to laugh like a hyena when it turns out that it was Shion in the Angel Mort, and all of these pseudo intellectuals are howling in pain about how unfair it all is.
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I'm going to laugh like a hyena when it turns out that it was Shion in the Angel Mort, and all of these pseudo intellectuals are howling in pain about how unfair it all is.


I have to agree that the person in Angel Mort does fit way more the personality of Mion.


The person in the end with the bikers seems like Shion. Mion never lost her cool like this.
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Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her.
Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling.


The doll is not a catalyst. It's a red herring. From Rika's POV she believes that the doll IS the catalyst. It's the reason why to Keiichi about it. I think, just like Onidamashi-hen, Rika will believe that this is the only thing that stops Shion, and go WTF HANYUU HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW? In the manga of Gou, the intro scene from episode 2 is attached to the end of Onidamashi-hen that plays out similarly, but she goes WTF HANYUU when she believed it was Onikakushi-like. She has this idea that because of Minagoroshi-hen that Keiichi giving Mion the doll stopped Shion, but it wasn't. I think that's what gave people the impression the doll matters, but rereading Meakashi-hen will help.
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Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling.
That's my reading too. Throw in the VN crew who have always hated the anime and who have a desperate need to show off their imagined superiority.
Anyone who has read the VN doesn't hate the anime. I'd understand people who will grow to dislike Gou if character's characterizations get botched just like the DEEN anime, or if there's really bloody scenes like in episode 4 that defeat the themes of Higurashi. It's only really secondaries who like the botched DEEN adaptation who think the new designs are bad or some other arbitrary reason (which is objectively worse in the DEEN anime) for them to go off on.
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Shion's rampage is not stopped by Mion getting the doll because it's a red herring. Her motivations are with the Sonozakis and not the doll. Shion's rampage is only stopped in arcs where she remembers Satoshi's wish. I think the Shion at the end wasn't actually Shion because it isn't like that in the VN (only the DEEN anime) and it's out of character for her.
Also, the "people" hating on this anime are secondaries or just trolling.

I'm not quite sure what you mean about the red herring here.
It's not like Shion's motivations ever lied with the doll, but in Mion's reaction to it.
And what you mean by her remembering the wish is the only thing stopping her from rampaging?
Where did you get this? She remembered the wish in every other chapter except the ones where she goes amok?
So I guess next you're going to say that there's a PC chapter were Mion got the doll AND Shion went on a rampage.

Also, pretty sure it's the otherway around. "People" hating on Deen's Higurashi are the ones who are secondaries or just trolling.

Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations.
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littleproblems said:
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I'm not quite sure what you mean about the red herring here.
It's not like Shion's motivations ever lied with the doll, but in Mion's reaction to it.
And what you mean by her remembering the wish is the only thing stopping her from rampaging?
Where did you get this? She remembered the wish in every other chapter except the ones where she goes amok?
So I guess next you're going to say that there's a PC chapter were Mion got the doll AND Shion went on a rampage.

Also, pretty sure it's the otherway around. "People" hating on Deen's Higurashi are the ones who are secondaries or just trolling.

Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations.


This is off topic but which version of the game, on PC, has all the arcs? And does it include the old console arcs?

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Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations.


This is off topic but which version of the game, on PC, has all the arcs? And does it include the old console arcs?

I used 07th mod for the console arcs. I am sure there's a torrent on the typical website that has every arc.
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littleproblems said:
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This is off topic but which version of the game, on PC, has all the arcs? And does it include the old console arcs?

I used 07th mod for the console arcs. I am sure there's a torrent on the typical website that has every arc.

Thanks a a lot!!
Found one that has been there since 8/2019. Hopefully it is the most updated one.
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It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations.
As I was saying earlier...
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wait, what? didn't this festival already happen? or am i just dumb....
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For those who are a abit confused about the time:

4th episode was 23th June
5th episode was 12th June from beginning

There is time-reset.
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ovy7 said:
>_>

People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh

Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.
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YumFrenchFrie said:
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>_>

People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh

Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.

I dont think that would fit.
A less surreal monogatari style would be PAFEKUTO.
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ssjokg said:
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Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.

I dont think that would fit.
A less surreal monogatari style would be PAFEKUTO.
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YumFrenchFrie said:
Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.

I dont think that would fit.
A less surreal monogatari style would be PAFEKUTO.
Oh yeah. That could work.
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Alfonse said:
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>_>

People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh

Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


You should watch the original before this one, honestly. I have a feeling this is a sequel so it'll make more sense if u do it that way


I've watched the original, read the manga, and the visual novels, but tnx anyway :)

(I thought it would be kinda obvious for old fans, as my signature is Rika and Bernkastel, with Bern's first poem from the VN)

YumFrenchFrie said:
ovy7 said:
>_>

People already spoiling shiet from the OG to new comers. sigh

Also, dat Shion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.


Yes,it's Battler.

I'm also hoping for a remake of the Umineko anime, and they could even use the manga and adapt the story from there. It would likely be easier than adapting directly from the VN.
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ovy7 said:
Alfonse said:


You should watch the original before this one, honestly. I have a feeling this is a sequel so it'll make more sense if u do it that way


I've watched the original, read the manga, and the visual novels, but tnx anyway :)

(I thought it would be kinda obvious for old fans, as my signature is Rika and Bernkastel, with Bern's first poem from the VN)

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Omg is that Battler as your pfp. Im hoping for a Umineko remake. But I want it in a death note kind of art style. Well not exactly.Just a more older kind of artstyle I guess.


Yes,it's Battler.

I'm also hoping for a remake of the Umineko anime, and they could even use the manga and adapt the story from there. It would likely be easier than adapting directly from the VN.


Dengekionline is giving the manga for free.

Seems a pretty random thing so maybe they started some kind of shadow promotion?

Or was it a late Rokkenjima Murder Case anniversary? Lol
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Dengekionline is giving the manga for free.

Seems a pretty random thing so maybe they started some kind of shadow promotion?

Or was it a late Rokkenjima Murder Case anniversary? Lol


Damn, I was so hyped for a sec but then found out it's only in Japan xD

But hmm, maybe there's something more going on here.... Oh God, Ryukishi, don't hype me up for an Umineko anime remake, pls T_T
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after episode 4 its ok to chill a little i guess before the storm comes in.
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NatsuDragneel12 said:
after episode 4 its ok to chill a little i guess before the storm comes in.
You mean the
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after episode 4 its ok to chill a little i guess before the storm comes in.
You mean the
i suppose it vvill be the fingernail torture and i think it vvill be more horrible than last time and maybe they'll add something nevv. or maybe they'll change the torture ? idk :D
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Hate to destroy your hopes, but that scene isn't part of this arc/arc that Gou tries to "fake". It's part of Meakashi-hen, which is arc 5 of the original story. This arc that Gou uses is Watanagashi-hen, which is arc 2.
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Hate to destroy your hopes, but that scene isn't part of this arc/arc that Gou tries to "fake". It's part of Meakashi-hen, which is arc 5 of the original story. This arc that Gou uses is Watanagashi-hen, which is arc 2.


Well they did throw in some Tsumihoroboshi in there so....
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Iin Meakashi-hen's Bad Ending, Mion gets the doll but Shion (Demon form) still goes on rampage. Read my previous post about the red herring bit. It's better to read the VN instead of watching the anime because you're missing crucial details to Shion's characterization and motivations.

Well I did read the VNs, or OG VNs to say.
Had to google this and apparently this was only done for the PS versions. (Guess I was right) sounds like a nice addition tho.
Guess I should one day get into all these special chapters too.

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Hulio said:
Also if it was instead Mion going on a rampage, that wouldn't quite make sense, tho I have to agree, that would make things very interesting for the future.





Hulio said:
I don't think the Impersonating is a sensible catalyst for this, as it's not anything unusual, pretty sure they did that on purpose on both sides from time to time.




Cyanwasserstoff said:
Higurashi is/has been always an anime that went from happy go lucky, fun and games, completely downhill to a true dispair situation.

Both parts of Higurashi are important. Higurashi contains gore, but it is not based on gore. People who are only expecting one gory episode after another should think for themself if Higurashi truly fits their taste.


Yes, exactly. The slice of life parts of Higurashi both serve to highlight the horror parts via contrast and to remind the audience of what the characters could have had together if it wasn't for


And, honestly, the slice of life parts of Higurashi are surprisingly entertaining.


Plus, mindless gore fest horror anime series aren't very good. It's horror anime series like this one, Elfen Lied, Shiki, and Shinsekai Yori that are truly good.

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after episode 4 its ok to chill a little i guess before the storm comes in.


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New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another.
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Brandon2149 said:
New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another.
its reseted,everything happens again but different timeline or route vvhatever u vvanna call it,everything vvill end bad alvvays,Rika is trying to change the bad ends. i recommend u to vvatch the old ones too
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Brandon2149 said:
New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another.
also don't compare it to gakkou gurashi,its nothing alike.
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Don't know why i even bother reading the forums to discuss this when OG watchers just spoil shit without tags.
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Brandon2149 said:
New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another.


Because the characters are in a time loop of sorts. In Watadamashi-hen, none of the characters (except one or maybe more) know what happened in Onidamashi-hen. Rena didn't just go crazy in Watadamashi-hen. She only went crazy in Onidamashi-hen.

You would know this if you watched the original. And, you should catch on to it fairly quickly.
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Brandon2149 said:
New viewer here. Can someone why this episode is ignoring last episodes events so much? I really don't like it and find these sol aspects boring. It kind of reminds me of Gakkougurashi in didn't like mix we'll having serious dark stuff and then cute stuff after another.


SoL is really important to build up the dark parts.
I you have problems with full SoL episodes I recommend to watch this anime on 4-episodes-packs instead of watch 1 episode per week.

You will understand the misteries soon.
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So Watadamashi-hen is underway, and they transitioned pretty abruptly tbh. I was expecting some more exposition after the hospital scene from last episode, but it seems like they are expecting you to understand what happened with Keiichi. Could be quite confusing for first-timers.

As expected, it seems Higurashi Gou's Watadamashi-hen is closely following Watanagashi-hen(OG S1) but with a slight twist, like how the first arc, Onidamashi-hen followed Onikakushi-hen(OG S1) but with a slight twist.











As far as the twist goes, they are changing some of the character interactions, which may/may not have an effect on the ensuing plot afterwards. For instance,

It'll be interesting to see how these changes to the plot will shape up in the next episode!
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@DCEmperor Yeah, Higurashi has always been a Psychological-Mystery-Thriller in a Horror setting. There it is extremely important, that the normal life and crazy life blend in each other perfectly, which is did.


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This place is spoiler city with all the troll, malcontents and VN fans who want to show how intelligent they are.
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Thankfully for MORE Rena scenes, i tought i will not able to see her again after what happened last episode. What happened in the end? This anime is weirdly good af
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This place is spoiler city with all the troll, malcontents and VN fans who want to show how intelligent they are.

If we annoy you because we love this series and want to GASP discuss the story and guess what each mystery will bring us then you can quietly leave.

What you are doing, trying to bait certain fans with insults every few posts, is harassment and I kindly ask you to stop.
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