| Mods should spend more time on posting on the forums? Nah, mods should be more lenient on signatures. Please |
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| STOP! You violated the law. Pay MAL a fine or serve your sentence. Your spamming shitposts are now forfeit. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
| I wouldn't mind, still I could possibly have to ban myself one day. |
Varista said: Awesome that there's a dev team now, hopefully they'll get the ball rolling. Yep! You will see announcements of big things in the Updates & Announcements board. For smaller fixes/features you can find a list here. As you can see a lot has already been done (the list is not really up to date, more things have been fixed/implemented) and more is to come! Ven said: I believe MAL should recruit more moderators with specific duties. Adding the Review/Recommendations moderator position was a great idea in relieving the burden of dealing with reviews off the shoulders of Forum Moderators. Perhaps a moderator to deal with profile/club related reports/enquiries (though I'm not sure if it's possible to filter through reports like that). Moderators dedicated to Anime/Manga episode/chapter discussions could also prove to be worthy, seeing as episode/chapter discussions can get rather nasty and a lot of removal of posts often occur. From what I've heard, forum moderators have no idea what they're signing themselves up for, hence the large number of retired mods. Actually forum mods never dealt with reviews, this was an admin only task before we had review mods. Our forum mods are already a bit "specialized" because they usually mod most in the boards they were active before becoming a mod (active modding). But I'm not sure how much more they should be specialized, for example to say "this mod is only/mostly responsible for episode discussions". The more we specialize people the more mods we need and we also still need a large amount of global mods so that reports/problems don't get ignored for too long just because the specialized mods are currently not online. Having mods that deal with everything just seems to be more effective in a really big forum where many problems occur that need to be dealt with as soon as possible before they get out of hand. It's probably impossible for most people to really know how being a forum mod on MAL is without being one here or on a forum of the same size and with a similar userbase. Like I said before, I was a mod in a relatively big forum, but it was still nothing compared to MAL, so I was kind of surprised too. But don't let this discourage you if you were thinking about being a forum mod here. While it can be a bit hard sometimes with the workload when many mods retire or are taking a short hiatus because of real life issues (though we're trying to minimize it and no one needs to mod for hours and hours and hours...) and some unappreciative users here and there, it also has a lot of positive sides. |
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| Can I ask why listing is cracked down on so much, I'm still a n00b so I don't know the back story....it seems bizarre. |
-shotz said: i would also anticipate that a bigger forum would not have a much harder time recruiting plenty of mods, as they have more to choose from While there are more people to choose from, it's still not a very easy to find new forum mods. We actually send out a lot of nominations every time we want to recruit more mods but most people decline, for various reasons. Another thing is that forum mods have a lot of power, so we need to be really sure that the people that get this power are responsible and don't abuse it. If you think there are users we should take into consideration you can PM me the names and an explanation why you think they should be considered; I'll have a look at them then. With the large amount of users we might have overlooked a few good candidates (or they were already asked and have declined...). -shotz said: in regard to every mal mod being a global mod, is there a reason behind this? it seems to me having mods assigned to a specific board or two each is the most organized, efficient approach. This forum doesn't use an existing forum software but was coded from scratch. And I assume coding board specific positions would be quite a lot work and when the forum was still small probably no one thought it's even necessary. And like I said in my last post, having global mods might make more sense in a big forum so that everyone can and will deal with problems everywhere when they need to be dealt with and won't wait until the board specific mods appear. -shotz said: i can see how this would be a problem (especially in CD) but that might just be a result of a board's rules being rigid to the point of being impractical. in the case of CD, many people are opposed to the listing and chat rules as enforcing it comes down mostly to interpretation. a discussion pretty much is a list of ideas. who's to say listing our favorite tooth brush brands is less of a discussion than a thread asking for opinions about an election? even seemingly simple list or chat threads can make way for interesting conversations. i think more priority for flaming and trolling, and more leniency with listing and chat would alleviate that problem a good extent. and considering this forum's crowd, a lot more realistic. most of the people here don't exactly seem to want to be here to have intricate debates. as long as there's not blatant spam i don't see the harm. I'm really not sure why people complain so much about the listing rule because from what I can see we don't lock that many threads for listing, at least recently... not sure if everyone saw it, but I explained the rule and how we deal with it here. So actually only the really the simple listing threads should be locked and everyone can contribute to avoiding threads being locked by not just posting 2-3 words but posting a bit more and discussing the topic. No one wants to force the users to have super long posts or debates or something like that. And we don't go around to delete every little off-topic or listing post. But for example tons of quote-chains are really annoying or if the thread turns into a chat thread because that makes it really hard for others to discuss the actual topic. Maybe some people are fine with this, but others aren't. For example I'm one of the users who doesn't want to see every thread full of spam when replying to it, because it makes it hard to read and reply to the interesting posts. If people want to just chat, we have 4 nice chat threads (see here for more information). |
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Luna_ said: I've thought of a solution for this about 10 months ago.so we need to be really sure that the people that get this power are responsible and don't abuse it. The initial phase never happened though. Luna_ said: I don't know what to say, you're right.I'm really not sure why people complain so much about the listing rule because from what I can see we don't lock that many threads for listing, at least recently... But that's not something to be proud of. Not when it comes to "recently". That's like saying "Well, we don't use rule 6, but we still have it.", I'd say this whole thing is intellectually dishonest. Luna_ said: You should consider how many users are fine with this and how many aren't though, let's say it's a minority that doesn't want that, I'd say you're fitting your own rules for the wrong people. Maybe some people are fine with this, but others aren't. If you want to have your cake and eat it too, well, that isn't really the case here because you could easily pander for both groups. Reasonably, if you pander to the supposed majority in this case, the minority can deal with it by ignoring what it doesn't like. Of course, I'm part of the supposed minority, by the way. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Hmm I would be a litle loose but it'd be all right but it would be hard I would have General Anime Games |
| My name is Terrence always is Terrence and will always be Terrence Current Accounts: ThePinhead3333, |
| Ain't nobody got time for that... |
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| If i was a moderator all this shit would be gone by now very strict everyone would want ,e dead on the account of having boring fourms |
| My name is Terrence always is Terrence and will always be Terrence Current Accounts: ThePinhead3333, |
Luna_ said: This forum doesn't use an existing forum software but was coded from scratch. If it were coded from scratch, then the ad bot blocking implementation I talked to you about should be easier than usual since there are less scripts needed to override. This is only if you really aren't using any phpBB or vBulletin template... --- Back on topic, mod = power, power is good, therefore being a mod is yuetsu.   |
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Luna_ said: I like knowing That there is no maximum amount of time for Mods to be at duty, though being online for certain hours is unhealthy if not done in moderation.. But the issue I see is no minimum is actually specified. Unless I missed reading that somewhere. Anyways I wonder what others think a rational minimum would be(for hours/days). And When I say minimum I mean actual supervising and not multitasking.(though we're trying to minimize it and no one needs to mod for hours and hours and hours...) |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| nope too lazy |
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| nope. never. i'm too lazy for that and i'm too busy also. i do report stupid forum posts etc though when i can to make it easier for the mods. |
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| Only if Tyrel becomes my sensei U__U |
| There's something really wrong if the MAL staff wants to hire MechaKiryu as a mod... |
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| I could do that. I don't know if I'd want to though. |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
| I've been a mod before. It's too much of a hassle tbh And I was only mod on a smaller forum. I'm not gonna deal with a site like MAL hell no |
| Nah Seems like too much effort |
| No. |
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| No. I would remove rules and let people certain users get away with stuff and make others mad by passin out newer rules that allow you to skip and do what you want |
| My name is Terrence always is Terrence and will always be Terrence Current Accounts: ThePinhead3333, |
| I would if I could just pop in whenever I wanted and moderate for as long/little as I wanted. One of the pre-requisites for being a mod is being on here constantly though so fuck that shit. |
| Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久 |
| I've been a mod for a little on other sites but haha there's no way I want to be spending that much time on MAL. |
| hell no |
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Grusomhed said: Yeah but you could be playing Video games while your doing your mod work :Vfruitynana said: Too much work |
Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| POWAH!!! UNLIIIIIIIIIMIIIIIIIITED POWAH!!! |
| No, 'cause I'd just be banning anyone that disagrees with me. |
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| I would. Mainly because a few certain users are becoming unbearable lately and mods seem to think deleting post is punishment enough. |
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Imaishi said: I would. Mainly because a few certain users are becoming unbearable lately and mods seem to think deleting post is punishment enough. SalvadorDali75 said: No, 'cause I'd just be banning anyone that disagrees with me. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Na, I've done it before on other sites. It's stupid to work for free and it makes you hate the community. |
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| No, too much work. |
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| So... are there ever gonna be mod offers? |
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| hell yes |
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| I'm active (right now) so I could give it a shot, I guess. |
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| yes, and give airi a nice ban. |
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Luna_ said: Varista said: Lots of users have great suggestions and the admins have worked up a reputation for not implementing a single one. I would like this to change, seeing as some are simple fixes. If you're talking about code changes then please note that this site was owned for many years by a company that didn't have a developer team for us. MAL Admins don't code for the site. Now that we're owned by a new company with an actual developer team we'll see a lot more bug fixes and new features but of course not everything can be implemented immediately. -shotz said: if they ever get past that hurdle, i have an actual suggestion... this may sound crazy, but it may be beneficial for the forum moderators to be more involved in the forums. as it is now, you almost never see a mod post in normal threads. the only time they do it's "THREAD LOCKED." to most users they probably seem less like other members of the community and more like robots that come around once in a while to hunt for locks and bans. hence the resentment towards mods in these parts. i know moderation takes a lot of time, but you can spend some of that time posting in forums WHILE moderating too. kill two birds with one stone. it seems logical that becoming more familiar with the board and its regulars that you're moderating would only help you do a better job. i've never been a mod before but literally every forum i've been on with good moderation had mods who were all active as regular posters. i don't see why on mal becoming a mod=posting career suicide. How big were these other forums? I was a mod on a relatively big forum before (about 20k users) but the moderation effort was actually pretty low so I had a lot of time to post. MAL is nothing compared to that though because it is a very big forum and you also need to keep in mind that forum mods don't just deal with forum problems but also problems related to profiles and partially also clubs. Another thing that is different on MAL compared to most other forums is that on other forums you usually have specific board moderators and a few global mods while on MAL every forum mod is a global mod. So on other sites you're only responsible for a small part and can basically ignore the rest (from a mod perspective). But on MAL you're responsible for everything and shouldn't just say "well this is a board I'm not interested in so I'm ignoring this report/problem". I know that many of our mods would like to post more including myself. You'd think it should be easy to do both modding and posting, but it's actually not. Because if we post in a thread we should also read through it and clean out the spam and see if there are other problems because if we just post without doing anything it would mean we're tolerating the bad behavior. After you're done you might just find a new problem that should be dealt with as soon as possible so you don't have time to post or you just don't feel like posting in the thread anymore (especially if it's a big thread with many problems). I'd really love to see this change, but it's something that probably won't happen overnight. For one thing we need more mods so that everyone has less work to do and more time to actually post, and we're still currently looking for more mods. But at the same time the users could help us a bit too. I've read many times that users wish that mods would be posting more as users and yet some of these users and others are constantly giving us headaches with going against the rules again and again even though they know exactly what they're doing wrong. By doing this you're working against your own wish because you're giving us even more work to do. It'd be nice if both sides could actually work together a bit more. Srs question: Why do you devote so much time to a shitty community when you're not even being payed. |
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| Would abuse my powers. |
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| "No one man should have all that power." |
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 And even if I did, i wouldn't voluntarily take on a responsibility like that without compensation. |
| I wouldn't because I have to follow the rules, I guess I do follow the rules... But not perfectly. Too cool for rules. |
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| Probably, I spend enough time on here anyways. |
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