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Jan 4, 2012 8:07 PM

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this episode just set a bar no future episode can reach...i would give this show a 10 if every episode was about loli rin
Jan 5, 2012 10:23 PM
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loliRin was awesome, but it felt too abrupt.
Jan 5, 2012 10:44 PM

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where is my wife and kids? have any of you've seen them?
Jan 14, 2012 1:31 PM

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Nice episode. Rin was badass
Jan 27, 2012 6:54 AM

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Karhu said:
Fucking horrible episode.
Feb 6, 2012 2:33 PM

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great ep, doesnt feel like a filler at all imo
Feb 15, 2012 7:07 PM

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Very good and solid self-contained episode. Was nice to see the kids get saved.

This show even manages to make filler-esque episodes become nearly amazing.
Mar 4, 2012 4:29 PM
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I personally liked the episode. We, as the audience, knew some of the stuff shown already but the other characters didn't.
I also like Rin as a character and some back story was ace. xD
Mar 26, 2012 6:01 AM
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First meh episode so far. With the exception of the last 3 minutes, it was just moe filler. Hoping things will come back on track soon.
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Mar 26, 2012 8:57 PM

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Wow, why is "filler" such a taboo word? This was a change-of-pace episode -- the calm before the storm (I assume) of the last three episodes of the season. I have no complaints.
Apr 8, 2012 5:30 AM

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I seem to be in the minority when I say I found this to be my favourite episode so far, lol. Maybe because I really like Rin.
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Apr 22, 2012 4:52 PM

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Hakuromatsu said:
Wow, why is "filler" such a taboo word? This was a change-of-pace episode -- the calm before the storm (I assume) of the last three episodes of the season. I have no complaints.


People just don't like adaptations screwing with something they are a fan of.

I didn't like this episode as much the second time, which is in direct contrast to all the other episodes of which I liked much more the second time seeing them. Rin is one of my favorite Fate/ characters but this was oddly timed in the grand scheme of things.

As for her holding off Ryuunosuke, I didn't have a problem with that. I'd argue that it's more in her character to actually do something instead of what happened in the novel from what I hear. Besides this was counterbalanced by what happened with Caster's monster and her being saved by Kariya.

Most importantly, we saw a different side to Tokiomi. I can somewhat see why Rin looks up to him so much, as he did play a good father to her it seemed like. It's true she never saw the darker side we do, so you can't really fault her for wanting to be like him.

So, while it's odd timing I think it's nice that an episode was focused on maybe the most important female character in Fate/stay night. *ducks and runs from Saber fans*
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Apr 22, 2012 5:22 PM

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insan3soldiern said:
Hakuromatsu said:
Wow, why is "filler" such a taboo word? This was a change-of-pace episode -- the calm before the storm (I assume) of the last three episodes of the season. I have no complaints.


People just don't like adaptations screwing with something they are a fan of.

I didn't like this episode as much the second time, which is in direct contrast to all the other episodes of which I liked much more the second time seeing them. Rin is one of my favorite Fate/ characters but this was oddly timed in the grand scheme of things.

As for her holding off Ryuunosuke, I didn't have a problem with that. I'd argue that it's more in her character to actually do something instead of what happened in the novel from what I hear. Besides this was counterbalanced by what happened with Caster's monster and her being saved by Kariya.

Most importantly, we saw a different side to Tokiomi. I can somewhat see why Rin looks up to him so much, as he did play a good father to her it seemed like. It's true she never saw the darker side we do, so you can't really fault her for wanting to be like him.

So, while it's odd timing I think it's nice that an episode was focused on maybe the most important female character in Fate/stay night. *ducks and runs from Saber fans*


Don't forget the Sakura fans xD.
Apr 22, 2012 6:04 PM

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Kind of forgot about her. 'Tis her fate, I guess.
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Apr 23, 2012 10:52 PM

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insan3soldiern said:
Hakuromatsu said:
Wow, why is "filler" such a taboo word? This was a change-of-pace episode -- the calm before the storm (I assume) of the last three episodes of the season. I have no complaints.


People just don't like adaptations screwing with something they are a fan of.

I didn't like this episode as much the second time, which is in direct contrast to all the other episodes of which I liked much more the second time seeing them. Rin is one of my favorite Fate/ characters but this was oddly timed in the grand scheme of things.

As for her holding off Ryuunosuke, I didn't have a problem with that. I'd argue that it's more in her character to actually do something instead of what happened in the novel from what I hear. Besides this was counterbalanced by what happened with Caster's monster and her being saved by Kariya.

Most importantly, we saw a different side to Tokiomi. I can somewhat see why Rin looks up to him so much, as he did play a good father to her it seemed like. It's true she never saw the darker side we do, so you can't really fault her for wanting to be like him.

So, while it's odd timing I think it's nice that an episode was focused on maybe the most important female character in Fate/stay night. *ducks and runs from Saber fans*

that was a really awesome explanation. she was kinda stupid but very bad@$$ this episode. i liked this episode.


Apr 29, 2012 7:02 PM

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filler, but Rin was awesome, can't wait to see her in the 3rd season.
May 3, 2012 10:07 AM
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Weakest episode.

They could have skipped this and not a single fuck will be missed.

Also, what is the point of creating a thread if you haven't watched it yet or any input to post?


Agreed, complete toss away filler episode. They've handled a lot of the action fairly well thus far, then they have to give Rin a sudden power up in a completely uneventful episode... fantastic.
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May 21, 2012 10:59 PM

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I enjoyed the episode. It's nice to see how Rin was as a kid. Also did anyone else notice that all F/SN characters just speak their minds. Shirou got it from Fuji-ne and Saber does this as well. Sakura is really the only one who has a different nature. Idk not really relevant, but just something I noticed.
Jun 1, 2012 12:11 AM

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I paged through a few of the thread, mostly it seems to be debating rather it's filler, not filler, or just really good filler. I just want to know something.

When I watched Fate/Stay Night, I was pissed at Rin's parents for the whole MAGES COME FIRST thing they advocated. However watching Zero I now HATE Rin's parents. Does anyone else really despise her parents? Particularly for freaking Sakura? I mean

"We're going to sell our daughter off to a creepy old guy who I KNOW HIS SON DISOWNED HIM, and he obviously seems legit, he obviously won't do anything bad," pretty much seems to paraphrase their attitude. And then after learning EXACTLY what kind of crap that guy pulls by seeing what's his names face, and knowing that Sakura has been abused, clearly stated by that guy, she still only worried for him. He's clearly a far better person than either Tokioka (sp?) parents could ever hope to be. o.O
Jun 1, 2012 12:54 PM
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It's too bad but yeah. It's also sad Rin's philosophy was shaped by his dad's to the point she tried to emulate him in Heaven's Feel. Thankfully, in one of the things you have to thank Shirou for, Shirou always manages to snap her out of that stupidity and show her to relax her stance a little.

Jun 20, 2012 4:04 AM

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My girl Rin's been a badass since she was 10 years old! Awesome episode! A bit tense at times even.
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Jun 23, 2012 6:06 PM

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ahhh, this episode made me feel so anxious!
I wonder if Rin will become an annoying character in fate/night because that was my first impression of her. But she's strong.

I hope Caster will die before this season end. He's too horrible.
Aug 4, 2012 5:10 PM
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As a Rin fan, I say this:

Was this episode filler?

Yes.

Was this episode fanservice?

Yes.

However, it's the best fanservice/filler episode ever, and there is some character development as well.

4/5 for me, I understand you'd dislike it if you don't like Rin/have read the LN and didn't like the change though.
Aug 9, 2012 6:36 AM

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Pretty good!
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Sep 12, 2012 1:20 AM

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Was so epic when Rin broke the bracelet! The music was just breathtaking!

I also liked how they squeezed Kariya into this episode so it wasn't 100% pointless. xD
Sep 13, 2012 5:33 AM
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Nice episode Rin save the day!
Sep 14, 2012 1:23 AM

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It was decent.
Sep 14, 2012 8:35 PM

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One of the better Flashbacks I have seen! =P

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Sep 15, 2012 1:57 AM

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One of the better Flashbacks I have seen! =P


Flashback?
Sep 28, 2012 3:36 PM

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Rin - Cool and super cute . Epic combination
Nov 21, 2012 1:07 PM

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Great episode to have it pointed to a single character, and it was quite an interesting character if you ask me! Great episode loved it! Especially the dramatic ending!
Dec 21, 2012 3:29 PM

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I would think Rin was awesome but ... In F/SN she is a COMPLETE BITCH so ... Well anyways I guess it was an okay episode even if it was more of a side story / filler, at least I got to see a little of Berserker ... Though personally think Rider might be my favorite team.
Dec 22, 2012 8:34 AM

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Pirating_Ninja said:
I would think Rin was awesome but ... In F/SN she is a COMPLETE BITCH so ... Well anyways I guess it was an okay episode even if it was more of a side story / filler, at least I got to see a little of Berserker ... Though personally think Rider might be my favorite team.

It was filler mostly.The actual story is Rin going in Fuyuki,finding that alley an dbeing save by Kariya.She never found or saved anyone.
Jan 23, 2013 9:50 AM

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Was gonna rate this a 8/10 but this touching episode made it a 9 for me.

Too much Rin~~~
Ahh I can't handle it~~~
Jan 29, 2013 7:06 AM
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Rin is so adorable :) But she cannot surpass Ilya.
Feb 26, 2013 8:46 PM

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Didn't feel like filler at all to me but if they stretched it out from the novels like some of you are saying then I guess it is. Still really enjoyed it.

Seems like there's only two different sides. People who liked Rin from FSN and enjoyed seeing her past and those who didn't like her to begin with so don't want to see anymore of her lol.
Feb 26, 2013 10:01 PM

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Didn't feel like filler at all to me but if they stretched it out from the novels like some of you are saying then I guess it is. Still really enjoyed it.

Seems like there's only two different sides. People who liked Rin from FSN and enjoyed seeing her past and those who didn't like her to begin with so don't want to see anymore of her lol.


It's not even stretching it out. This shit never even happened in the novels.
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Mar 3, 2013 12:34 PM

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Well, I can't say I disliked the episode, but it wasn't as good as the rest of them. I want to see some real fighting!

Mar 9, 2013 1:45 AM
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This is the first time I've seen character development described as filler.
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Mar 9, 2013 10:14 PM

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by far the best episode so far
Jun 3, 2013 6:57 PM

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This episode tugged on some heart strings for me, I really was afraid for the kids. But i like fighting episodes best
Jun 11, 2013 10:34 AM

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This episode was fine in terms of character development. And the visuals where amazing in this one.
Especially the part with the crystal manipulation.
Jun 11, 2013 10:39 AM

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rin hmm.. yah.. not really bad episode.. the bad girl rin try learn magic to fight evil lol XD
I wonder what happen to rin if caster was there..
the chase scene is really thrilling btw :p
Jun 11, 2013 10:40 AM

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Always-Hungry said:
This episode was fine in terms of character development. And the visuals where amazing in this one.
Especially the part with the crystal manipulation.

seriously when seeing this kind of art magic.. I was thinking "magic can make money" lol XD
Jun 24, 2013 6:39 PM

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arrgghhh!!
(note-do not have or want to sub to neon alley)
I want to watch this dubbed, my usual sources are taking too long to upload it.
Jun 29, 2013 11:45 AM

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Rin is so brave, but she was lucky that damned Caster wasn't around. She was so cool all along :D

I don't care that this was a filler episode. At least, it was more interesting than Naruto fillers.

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Jul 17, 2013 9:13 AM
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Kariya finally has some screentime. It was a good filler in my opinion, now I know that Kariya is gonna die :(
Jul 18, 2013 3:50 PM

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Interesting episode.
Jul 23, 2013 10:11 PM

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Yay, loli Rin.
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Jul 25, 2013 12:11 AM

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Good episode, a bit slow in the beginning
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