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Mar 14, 2022 10:14 AM
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boldulysses said:
Probably been answered already, but was Lena the one who took out the Legion mech that was about to kill Shin? If so, that's a hell of a crack shot from that rifle to hit whatever weak spot the mech has and make it explode... Unless I missed something else.

I believe it was Cyclops, not Lena.
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What chapter of the novel is it in?
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lis1994 said:
boldulysses said:
Probably been answered already, but was Lena the one who took out the Legion mech that was about to kill Shin? If so, that's a hell of a crack shot from that rifle to hit whatever weak spot the mech has and make it explode... Unless I missed something else.

I believe it was Cyclops, not Lena.


Ah, thanks. I guess she was the first juggernaut to show up on the scene afterward. The show could've made that more clear though.


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Loved the background music, Avid(?), when Shin met Milize

It's called 'Voices of the chord'.


THANK YOU for that. Absolutely amazing rendition.


For everyone saying this is the best episode of the show, I humbly submit ep. 9 of S1.
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Mar 14, 2022 2:01 PM
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So did Lena know that was Shin??? I don’t think so but he was able to communicate with her over the headpiece!
Mar 14, 2022 2:35 PM
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lxherr12 said:
So did Lena know that was Shin??? I don’t think so but he was able to communicate with her over the headpiece!

She didn't know, but Cyclops recognized the mark on his Jaggernaut. And about the Para Raid: He turned it off immediately when he realised thath she could hear him through it.
Mar 14, 2022 2:40 PM
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This episode was so great!! I had so many feels for this!!!
Mar 14, 2022 4:14 PM
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This was beautiful nothing more to saxäy
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This was beautiful
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Finally Milize the queen makes her long overdue comeback! I always knew they wouldnt just kill her off like that.

This show GOATs so hard its insane. The episode directing was once again absolutely stellar.
It trancends anime and becomes pure art, they really use the medium to its fullest in a way I have never seen before.

We have powerhouse anime like AoTs finale this season and yet 86 comes in with a steelchair and steals the show. Take notes, this is kino.

Cursed production schedule or not, A1 delivers with pure quality. I can only hope we get the next season ASAP or Im going insane. Waiting for LN translations is just not my thing amd honestly anime is the perfect medium for this.
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Ah yes, here comes miss sunshine.

@Marinate1016 I don't think the OSTs will be on Apple Music, I bought the ones I liked from Amazon last year. You can do the same, I think the single track is for like $2 or maybe $3.
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samashi20 said:
Ah yes, here comes miss sunshine.

@Marinate1016 I don't think the OSTs will be on Apple Music, I bought the ones I liked from Amazon last year. You can do the same, I think the single track is for like $2 or maybe $3.


Why wouldn’t it be in Apple Music tho
Mar 14, 2022 9:25 PM

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lxherr12 said:
So did Lena know that was Shin??? I don’t think so but he was able to communicate with her over the headpiece!
She didn't know shin was able to hear her through the para raid because Lena believed only the Republic had the para raid.

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What chapter of the novel is it in?
It adapts the end of chapter 9 on vol. 3
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Marinate1016 said:
samashi20 said:
Ah yes, here comes miss sunshine.

@Marinate1016 I don't think the OSTs will be on Apple Music, I bought the ones I liked from Amazon last year. You can do the same, I think the single track is for like $2 or maybe $3.


Why wouldn’t it be in Apple Music tho
I mean, it's been over a year I think since last season came out and we still don't have anything on Apple Music. I think they just released it on Amazon to sell.
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Mar 15, 2022 12:39 AM
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I just can't express my happiness when I saw them talking to each other, oh man this is on another level...
Mar 15, 2022 1:31 AM
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Please allow me to be a broken record to the posts in this thread and say that the directing in this episode truly feels like peak cinema.

If it actually finished airing in 2021, this is what I would've chosen for anime of the year.


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Am I the only one who thought this was by far the worst episode yet?

Not only was the first half a cluster fuck but they absolutely blueballed the Lena meeting and it was excruciating. It's been a while since I've genuinely felt angry at a show.

It actually made me feel uncomfortable to the point idk if I'll watch the next episode, there was absolutely no reason other than "hype" for Shin to do that and it just felt unreal and unbearable.


Although my feelings weren't this strong, the episode did disappoint me. I think there was too much exposition already in the rest of the 2nd part to Shin's internal struggles, so focusing on it AGAIN on this episode... yeah. It really didn't hit that emotional high note it was aiming for, for me at least.
Mar 15, 2022 5:02 AM
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Fantastic directing. 10/10 episode. Kind of worth the wait.
Mar 15, 2022 5:29 AM

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Damn man I almost started crying, that moment when Shin understands that she's Lena was fucking insane
Mar 15, 2022 5:43 AM
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Everything was in perfect harmony, sound, voices, emotions, Kiri saving Frederica was a surprise too. I did cry a bit, I got spoiled about Lena's return but I didn't know HOW
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Aww man, I thought the Shin met Lena for the 1st time is for real... Thet do met but Lena doesn't know it was Shin inside that thing.... if those Legion didn't appear all the sudden, I'm going to give this episode a 5/5. Such a c*ckblock.
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samashi20 said:
Marinate1016 said:


Why wouldn’t it be in Apple Music tho
I mean, it's been over a year I think since last season came out and we still don't have anything on Apple Music. I think they just released it on Amazon to sell.

It’s actually up now, idk if it just got added today or this week or what, I haven’t checked in a couple weeks but saw it:
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Marinate1016 said:
samashi20 said:
I mean, it's been over a year I think since last season came out and we still don't have anything on Apple Music. I think they just released it on Amazon to sell.

It’s actually up now, idk if it just got added today or this week or what, I haven’t checked in a couple weeks but saw it:
Awesome! Thank you so much!!!
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For most, a amazing episode that it was unfortunately in part ruined by the incredibly stupid and romcom level of writing misunderstanding from Lena part, the reunion was so well build up and visually stunning just for the writer to turn Lena into a imbecile that can't see the reaper symbol and realise things, can't recognize Shin's voice, the person that she used to talk for hours and not even realise what the "Major" said by Shin means, seriously girl, don't you know how to count 1 + 1?, and of course we need to have that bait scene where Shin would show his face but something interrupt him...it was soooo dumb it made me frustrated af, and i don't care about the minor excuses about Lena not recognizing, the entire sequence still dumb af and could be handle in a much smarter way, but the rest was amazing.

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The ED theme brought tears to my eyes. A really beautiful and well crafted episode.


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Shinuki_n_Reborn said:
For most, a amazing episode that it was unfortunately in part ruined by the incredibly stupid and romcom level of writing misunderstanding from Lena part, the reunion was so well build up and visually stunning just for the writer to turn Lena into a imbecile that can't see the reaper symbol and realise things, can't recognize Shin's voice, the person that she used to talk for hours and not even realise what the "Major" said by Shin means, seriously girl, don't you know how to count 1 + 1?, and of course we need to have that bait scene where Shin would show his face but something interrupt him...it was soooo dumb it made me frustrated af, and i don't care about the minor excuses about Lena not recognizing, the entire sequence still dumb af and could be handle in a much smarter way, but the rest was amazing.



Well, it was better explained in the light novel and I probably think that this will be explained later (maybe the next ep but not sure, it depends on how the director is looking to build the episode).
So, the fact about the Reaper symbol is that she NEVER knew that it was his juggernaut symbol. She only heard Theo's symbol as he developed his background in the end of ep4. It's your mistake to think that she could know that at this moment. ^^ And thus, Shinden also indeed said that she never see it once.

About the voice, as you can hear from the loudspeaker of the Reginleif, it wasn't similar to Shin's one at all.
You can expect however that she could have understand at the moment he said "shosa". However, as it was explained in the light novel, the military grade could defer in language depending on the region/country so she just thought "shosa" was referring to captain. Plus, you can understand that she is convinced to think that Shin and all the spearhead squadron was dead : you're making far into enemy territory without any backups, munitions, artillery, food, etc and map awareness (shin's ability aside which could help but not that much since there're so many difficulties). She believed in episode 9 that they're just going to death, that's why she asked them not "leave her".

Well, that cleared, I hope you can enjoy it better. ^^
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I cried this episode, and I couldn't hold back on just how epicccc it was.
Seriously this season just keep surprising me.

I want to watch the next episode rn!!!!!

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Shinuki_n_Reborn said:
For most, a amazing episode that it was unfortunately in part ruined by the incredibly stupid and romcom level of writing misunderstanding from Lena part, the reunion was so well build up and visually stunning just for the writer to turn Lena into a imbecile that can't see the reaper symbol and realise things, can't recognize Shin's voice, the person that she used to talk for hours and not even realise what the "Major" said by Shin means, seriously girl, don't you know how to count 1 + 1?, and of course we need to have that bait scene where Shin would show his face but something interrupt him...it was soooo dumb it made me frustrated af, and i don't care about the minor excuses about Lena not recognizing, the entire sequence still dumb af and could be handle in a much smarter way, but the rest was amazing.


Shinuki_n_Reborn said:
For most, a amazing episode that it was unfortunately in part ruined by the incredibly stupid and romcom level of writing misunderstanding from Lena part, the reunion was so well build up and visually stunning just for the writer to turn Lena into a imbecile that can't see the reaper symbol and realise things, can't recognize Shin's voice, the person that she used to talk for hours and not even realise what the "Major" said by Shin means, seriously girl, don't you know how to count 1 + 1?, and of course we need to have that bait scene where Shin would show his face but something interrupt him...it was soooo dumb it made me frustrated af, and i don't care about the minor excuses about Lena not recognizing, the entire sequence still dumb af and could be handle in a much smarter way, but the rest was amazing.


That's not dumb she believes they are dead and don't even know Federacy also uses Para-RAID. Even if she recognized his voice for moment she thought as it hearing things. Never seen or heard about Shin's insignia either. Let's be honest, it's a miracle Shin and others survived in the first place , if weren't for Rei they would be dead.
Mar 17, 2022 5:29 AM

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It looks great, sure, but what about the plot? How am I supposed to care about the characters after the break and the previous events which were just dumb (oh yes crying will always defeat evil)?
It feels really cheap how they just have all this build up and it leads nowhere. Instead they show Shin's feelings over and over again as if I don't remember what that was about and then in the end nothing really happens in this episode besides emotional ramblings.
I don't think watching this episode changed anything or brought anything ot the table. It's disappointing.
I waited for quite a while to watch an episode in which I learn that they are still as they were and almost saw each other but didn't.
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Shinuki_n_Reborn said:
For most, a amazing episode that it was unfortunately in part ruined by the incredibly stupid and romcom level of writing misunderstanding from Lena part, the reunion was so well build up and visually stunning just for the writer to turn Lena into a imbecile that can't see the reaper symbol and realise things, can't recognize Shin's voice, the person that she used to talk for hours and not even realise what the "Major" said by Shin means, seriously girl, don't you know how to count 1 + 1?, and of course we need to have that bait scene where Shin would show his face but something interrupt him...it was soooo dumb it made me frustrated af, and i don't care about the minor excuses about Lena not recognizing, the entire sequence still dumb af and could be handle in a much smarter way, but the rest was amazing.


That's not dumb she believes they are dead and don't even know Federacy also uses Para-RAID. Even if she recognized his voice for moment she thought as it hearing things. Never seen or heard about Shin's insignia either. Let's be honest, it's a miracle Shin and others survived in the first place , if weren't for Rei they would be dead.


Who said she believes they are dead? didn't you understand anything? she said "I want to get to where they are, To catch up to them..." No, It's completely opposite she doesn't want to believe they are dead, she is trying to reach them. And don't you think this is too dumb that she didn't recognize his voice?
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That's not dumb she believes they are dead and don't even know Federacy also uses Para-RAID. Even if she recognized his voice for moment she thought as it hearing things. Never seen or heard about Shin's insignia either. Let's be honest, it's a miracle Shin and others survived in the first place , if weren't for Rei they would be dead.


Who said she believes they are dead? didn't you understand anything? she said "I want to get to where they are, To catch up to them..." No, It's completely opposite she doesn't want to believe they are dead, she is trying to reach them. And don't you think this is too dumb that she didn't recognize his voice?

First, what she meant was she wants to reach their "final destination". Ep 11 - Shin to Lena: "If one day , you make it to our final destination, would you please leave flowers?".
Second, as I said she didn't know Federacy uses Para-RAID too , and Shin switched it off immediately after he said "Major" , so she would not know if it is the pilot inside machine said that as he was using radio for communications.
Mar 17, 2022 7:18 AM
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There're obvious reasons for which Lena couldn't recognise Shin, and all of them are quite obvious in the show itself. On top of that, many people, including LN readers have explained what happened in that scene. People still want to think that all of these reasons are meaningless. Do you guys really lack comprehension skill that much?
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Pranavk27 said:
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Who said she believes they are dead? didn't you understand anything? she said "I want to get to where they are, To catch up to them..." No, It's completely opposite she doesn't want to believe they are dead, she is trying to reach them. And don't you think this is too dumb that she didn't recognize his voice?

First, what she meant was she wants to reach their "final destination". Ep 11 - Shin to Lena: "If one day , you make it to our final destination, would you please leave flowers?".
Second, as I said she didn't know Federacy uses Para-RAID too , and Shin switched it off immediately after he said "Major" , so she would not know if it is the pilot inside machine said that as he was using radio for communications.

I see, why she didn't realize anything. No wonder people are confused, I think A-1 performed poorly in that interaction. Because the voice that was spread was exactly the voice of Shin. And I thought Lena would recognize he is Shin instantly, but that was wrong. That's why I thought this is so dumb. Why would she forget the voice of someone important? I was so confused.
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Ugh, why couldn't he just tell her... soo frustrating! Fucking hope she'll find out next episode
Mar 18, 2022 5:54 AM

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Damn I completely forgot this even existed. That's one way to lost the momentum it carried . It's a shame , out of all the problems 86 has, I wouldn't have had "production value " in the list . Just shows how tight the industry is..

Guessing this is the end of this arc and the next ep will probably a cocnlusion and a bit of set up ep . Plot wise this arc was definitely worse than the first one , lot of mechanical aspects and the plot armour didn't make sense and got more apparent in the bigger picture .
But it was a good characterizing for shin . Much needed , it wasnt quick in its developments but took its time building up his personality . Although a bit turbulent at times , it was a very satisfying conclusion and showed his worth as a MC .
And it looks like it might be the end of my 86 journey , since the aspect I hate the most and find the most annoying has returned . It was a good season without her involvement , but alas ....

Also , it felt very comical for her to not find out who is in the machine . And it would even more nonsensical if it turns out she still doesn't know who was in there in the next ep , considering there is like a dozen ways she could have found out ......
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The moment when Shin start crying seeing her had me totally emotional if it weren't for me not watching this at work and holding them feels, I would've start crying, as well.
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Accelise_ said:
Pranavk27 said:

That's not dumb she believes they are dead and don't even know Federacy also uses Para-RAID. Even if she recognized his voice for moment she thought as it hearing things. Never seen or heard about Shin's insignia either. Let's be honest, it's a miracle Shin and others survived in the first place , if weren't for Rei they would be dead.


Who said she believes they are dead? didn't you understand anything? she said "I want to get to where they are, To catch up to them..." No, It's completely opposite she doesn't want to believe they are dead, she is trying to reach them. And don't you think this is too dumb that she didn't recognize his voice?

It was not poorly done they just show as it is . She did hear his voice but she don't know if it is in her mind or someone actually saying that or where it is coming from.
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Love it best episode ❤️👌 when Shin finally found her Shousa 🥰
Mar 19, 2022 3:59 PM
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Finally it's back with one of the strongest psychological episode and finally Shin and Lena's meeting for the 1st time, one of my fav episode overall but too bad it was after a 3 months break :( still great though
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what the is that supposed to be a cockblock in which Lena is almost there but Shin still wasn't able to see her personally! oh well...
4/5.


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fucking WORTH IT!!! every minute and every second. holy shit im honestly glad they postponed it i dont think i would've preferred something with lower quality than this if i coulda chose this.

fuckkk that was so good? shin breaking down. literally. not only inside his mind now, its so unbearable that he lets it out physically. That was AMAZING?? WOAHHH. and lena coming in at just the right time Maybe i criednguys ok justttt maybe. i cried. what the fuck

did you guys SEEEEE thT ?? idfk what to call it. transition? edit? change?? WHATEVER!! that thing where the screen closed in as lena was speaking, and the "black" part turned into white when it panned into shin's expression as he's enlightened, and now as the scene is a lot more calming and happier, that white part turned transparent and finally, with lena's last words, as shin's heart is wholely free those transparent marks are gone MYYY GOD I ENJOYED THAT SO MUCH?? like such a little thing but it impacted me sm

shin and lena's talk was amazing btw. hooooly fucking shit im definitely re-watching that again someday

the way this ep ended on such a light hearted note :']] im praying the last ep has what the epilogue on vol 1 (ln) had
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It's back, and it's back kicking, guns blazing. Still the same old beautiful, amazing series.

My eyes were all watery and I had goosebumps all over when Lena was talking to Shin, especially her declaration of how she is not backing down. How she will always fight to reach the same place the five of them went to. It's really amazing to see Lena as she is today. Based on how things went, she's much bolder, much steadier, and definitely a great, decisive commander. But even through all that, she hasn't lost her kindness or optimism.

It'll be a while before they can meet again. But after 22 episodes, Shin finally has some semblance of a purpose.

Also so glad everyone survived. I was so afraid.

So I'm guessing Milize is now the commander of the remnants of the Republic? The Republic is going to become a much better place with her in command. I mean 86ers like her right-hand woman is already standing next to her as an equal. Also, they keep calling her Your Highness but I'm pretty sure that's something they gave her instead of her asking for it.

Ah, can't believe the season is ending. Definitely need a season 2. Will see the last episode first.
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After watching this series for so long, I finally dropped it three minutes into this episode. I never loved the anime, but I found it watchable. I slowly started hating it during part 2. I disliked the main protagonist and despised whatever his brother was supposed to be. I even found the "evil" voices madly annoying. I figure that if I am no longer being entertained, I'll just stop wasting time with it. I am fortunate that I don't care what happens or how the anime ended. This makes the 3rd anime that I've dropped on the last two episodes. Evangellion, Heroic Age and 86.
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After watching this series for so long, I finally dropped it three minutes into this episode. I never loved the anime, but I found it watchable. I slowly started hating it during part 2. I disliked the main protagonist and despised whatever his brother was supposed to be. I even found the "evil" voices madly annoying. I figure that if I am no longer being entertained, I'll just stop wasting time with it. I am fortunate that I don't care what happens or how the anime ended. This makes the 3rd anime that I've dropped on the last two episodes. Evangellion, Heroic Age and 86.


Wrong show if you were expecting to be entertained in the first place
Mar 25, 2022 6:16 AM

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Man... a great fricking comeback for 86 after months just for the left 2 episodes. I'm sad that this and the next episode are the last ones... But, that was an emotional ride for sure. Shin and Lena were so close to meeting each other and yet so far. But, I know they're gonna meet soon so, that's a relief.

One thing I'm gonna say is that the director for this show is probably becoming one of my favorites of all time. What a great job, man. Incredible.
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OH COME ON!!!!! She survived and they are right in front of each other!!!!! THe 1st season theme was playing too and then you pull that crap!!!!

Oh 86 how you wound me!!!
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Alright, better late watching than never, right?

So, i am be honest here guys. First thing first, this is perfectly my face when Shin decided not to told Lena her name:

But, wait a minute. Dang, kid, you survived!

Then, at the same time, i couldn't lie when my eyes entirely teary having Shin amazed at how Lena successfully make him return to the earth. I can relate with all the frustation he got and then, bam, surprise, your girl just right in front of you. Heck yea!

Too bad indeed, there's a certain plot device that, ( honestly its should be expected, but still, why author, why!) prevent them to know each other prematurely. Cuckblock for real guys, be honest xd.

All in all, even though i can't help but creating pikachu face having them all survive, safe, and healthy in one piece. But not gonna lie, i am glad that they are still the bunch of mc for the next possible season!

One more episode for the last binge. Hopefully the continuations won't be far more than three years....
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Accelise_ said:
Pranavk27 said:

First, what she meant was she wants to reach their "final destination". Ep 11 - Shin to Lena: "If one day , you make it to our final destination, would you please leave flowers?".
Second, as I said she didn't know Federacy uses Para-RAID too , and Shin switched it off immediately after he said "Major" , so she would not know if it is the pilot inside machine said that as he was using radio for communications.

I see, why she didn't realize anything. No wonder people are confused, I think A-1 performed poorly in that interaction. Because the voice that was spread was exactly the voice of Shin. And I thought Lena would recognize he is Shin instantly, but that was wrong. That's why I thought this is so dumb. Why would she forget the voice of someone important? I was so confused.

Yea, I kinda questioned it too. I just chalked it up to because she has been through a long period of hellish war where she connected to like hundreds of soldiers on the para-raid and she doesnt really remember the voices to the T.
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That was an amazing episode. Fuck, I wanted them to meet.
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