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Jun 30, 2021 10:39 PM
#201
Exactly the same here. Saw the score, decided I won't be swayed by it. Started watching...OK, a recap. Well, maybe not too bad an idea after 3 months. The "real" episode starts. Ok right. Connect the dots. You're gonna enjoy it. You must enjoy it. And then...WTF? People doing this in a corporate environment would pack their stuff overnight. As someone said, insulting. |
Jun 30, 2021 11:04 PM
#202
| So Koito is actually a bad person and didn't actually mean to commit suicide, okay. Ohto really wanted to talk to Neiru, and gets rejected as she's not the real one. But once she actually calls back, I guess she doesn't anymore after she finds out she's not human? Actually no, she has a random flashback and decides she wants to see her after all. Too many unresolved points to justify using the first 25 min. as a recap. Honestly this was a pretty interesting show, but wasted so much potential for the last few episodes. The CloverWorks curse strikes again. |
Jul 1, 2021 12:48 AM
#203
| Honestly I didn't like it all that much. When I heard it was gonna be a 45 minute special I thought Oh maybe some good content but nope just an episode's worth of a recap plus an episode length that just made more confusion. Wasn't all that great |
Jul 1, 2021 1:01 AM
#204
So if Neiru is actually an android like Frill, then how the hell nobody noticed it in the second episode when she was hospitalized? At least doctors should notice it, right? Was she in their private institute? Then how the hell Ai was able to waltz in there like a field trip? The more I think about these smaller inconsistencies, the messier it gets. |
Jul 1, 2021 1:24 AM
#205
MenchiK1 said: tl_dr said: They didn't have to do us like that man. Wonder Egg Priority was a really good show, up to the point where the script writers (or whoever was in charge of the story) decided to throw in way too much additional stuff that could never have been concluded in such a short amount of time. I'd really hoped for this special to clear some of that up, but sadly I'm just disappointed: I think everything was concluded, except Neiru, but we know Ai goes to get her, so unless you think she fails even that is concluded. But what about Uro-Acca and Acca wanting to bring their daughter back? I mean, this is a pretty intricate and involved method that they have developed to bring back their daughter, so why are they just sitting around drinking tea? I get it; their daughter would come from an alternate universe and apparently for them, that’s better than nothing and yet, they kind of leave everything by the way side. |
Jul 1, 2021 1:28 AM
#206
| What a disappointment I hope Neiru become like Fill and kill all her traitor friends if there is a season 2 |
Jul 1, 2021 5:08 AM
#207
| I Don't Think It's The End, There Are Many Questions Which Are Still Unanswered. As Per The Last Scene & Line, It'll Probably Get A 2nd Season...(I Hope It Gets the 2nd Season) |
Jul 1, 2021 5:15 AM
#208
| I've never given a show, ova or special I bothered to finish less than a 5 (if I dislike it enough to give it a 4 or less I just stop watching and don't rate it) but this is my first, what was even the point of this special, half is a recap and half is a waste of time that doesn't explain anything, reveal that neiru is a robot and then everyone moves on with their lives. I have never been so disappointed with an anime ngl, maybe a second season could fix this and put it into perspective but there are a thousand better ways to end a season, specially when you don't announce a second one. Also it doesn't look like it was popular enough for a second season so we are f*cked. |
Jul 1, 2021 5:18 AM
#209
| seriously this sequel episode is totally trash !! first 23 minutes is recap and the rest is totally garbage even this continue the main story !! 0,5 / 10 score |
Jul 1, 2021 6:15 AM
#210
| Honestly heavily disagree with the people upset about the first half being a recap. The anime is so fucking confusing (in great ways), you CANNOT tell me you remembered every detail. I certainly needed a reminder of the girls, the person they wished to save and why... ect ect Though a little disappointing in that it didn't help explain pretty much anything, I don't really care. I don't see why people need a perfectly summed up ending with everything wrapped up in a nice little bow. I like to be confused, strung along and left to unpack what I watched. |
Jul 1, 2021 6:41 AM
#212
menpe said: So if Neiru is actually an android like Frill, then how the hell nobody noticed it in the second episode when she was hospitalized? At least doctors should notice it, right? Was she in their private institute? Then how the hell Ai was able to waltz in there like a field trip? The more I think about these smaller inconsistencies, the messier it gets. She is not an android and neither was Frill, they showed how they made Frill, her body was grown in a tank and is organic. Remember there is an episode where they think Neiru might be sick so feel her forehead and pulse and say both are normal. They are AIs only their/ personalities aren't real. |
Jul 1, 2021 6:49 AM
#213
MenchiK1 said: She is not an android and neither was Frill, they showed how they made Frill, her body was grown in a tank and is organic. Remember there is an episode where they think Neiru might be sick so feel her forehead and pulse and say both are normal. They are AIs only their/ personalities aren't real. I mean bone structure and the internal organs should be really different. Like a mannequin filled with some material. |
Jul 1, 2021 7:34 AM
#214
| There are some posts explaining what is (probably) happened so I kinda understand better after reading. But in my opinion script writers just could not put the breaks on and story got out of control (and reasoning). There were no need in parallel words or anything beside Frill/ACCAs arc wrapped in some decent way. Let alone dropping more unexplained stuff in 'special'. E.g. in case of manga\novel there are editors who used to keep authors in check. But for this show CW got 'big shot' of a writer and could not put a leash on him it seems. |
Jul 1, 2021 8:19 AM
#215
menpe said: MenchiK1 said: She is not an android and neither was Frill, they showed how they made Frill, her body was grown in a tank and is organic. Remember there is an episode where they think Neiru might be sick so feel her forehead and pulse and say both are normal. They are AIs only their/ personalities aren't real. I mean bone structure and the internal organs should be really different. Like a mannequin filled with some material. Neiru is basically a clone of her "sister" Airu. |
Jul 1, 2021 8:28 AM
#216
| Ok, what the hell? They didn't answer the questions and add more confusing plot points. Disappointing honestly waited for months and this is what they give us?? They should use all 46 mins to explain everything. 2/10. This ruins my enjoyment of the TV series. |
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Jul 1, 2021 11:20 AM
#218
| I'm kind of appalled, to be honest. It feels like the production forgot what the plotlines from the first 12 episodes were and tried to conclude the story out of memory or something like that. That's just surreal. At least the animation is still pretty gorgeous, I give them that. But, unless we get a second season, a movie, an OVA or anything, it's going to go down to history as the anime who tricked us with pretty looks and made us feel like a bunch of clowns. |
Jul 1, 2021 11:33 AM
#219
| Am i the only one found this to be good wtf? Though, that being said, I do hope this is not the end, and that we're getting a s2 eventually. I really wanted to see more of Frill. Though, if this is truly it, I agree how TPN s2ish it feels. I'm going to count this is as its own episode and not some finale. 7/10 |
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Jul 1, 2021 12:50 PM
#220
| I am actually kinda amused by how bad it is lmao I'm not going to waste my time be there S2 unless it has a very good score after several episodes out leonardobarba said: Wonder Egg Priority continues to be great even with Wonder Egg Priority Special as its Gainax Ending. lol thanks for the link haha man... |
SorvarinJul 1, 2021 1:05 PM
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Jul 1, 2021 2:21 PM
#221
DsMasterBR said: I don't get why people think sticking the landing is the only important quality of a story. I'm just happy I could watch 20 more minutes of WEP. So, as it turns out, episode 11 was the climax and the special is the aftermath. Another great episode of a great uncomprehended show. Yeah, it is uncomprehended... because it's a fucking mess and not even the creators must know what the fuck happened. Stop being a snob lol. Weird and good looking =/= good. |
Jul 1, 2021 3:15 PM
#222
| I regret watching this "special" episode... |
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Jul 1, 2021 3:59 PM
#223
| These were the worst 20 minutes of my life |
Jul 1, 2021 4:05 PM
#224
| Don't get the hate in here.... Problem is not the story , Animation or writing that we saw executed in this special The Problem is just the loose end....the inconclusive/incomplete Storyline and it's unanswered Questions. IF there are Sequels in the future...this wasn't actually that bad for a special, imo ...If there won't be any more to this story , then yes....im kinda dissappointed overall as well... All I can say is that the Ending sucked in this case, tho...but I got intrigued by the Show nevertheless. |
Jul 1, 2021 4:53 PM
#225
| I had a friend tell me that it can be interpreted as all of the girls finding what they really wanted in life |
Jul 1, 2021 7:52 PM
#226
meap98 said: I had a friend tell me that it can be interpreted as all of the girls finding what they really wanted in life Neiru, who is super observant, calls it out in ep 2. We all and Ai think it's about them bringing their friends back, whereas Neiru tells Ai she just doesn't like her present self and wants to change.(Neiru of course loves herself and doesn't want to change but does, new hairstyle in ep 11?) In ep 12 she even brags to her other self how happy she is and how much she has changed, their friends coming back confuse them and Ai finally realizes at the end Neiru was right and it started with Ai befriending her (her first REAL friend, since she learns Koito was a fake friend) and runs off to get her. I'm not positive about the other two, but I don't think they really wanted to change. Momoe complains about being seen as a boy but then admits she likes the attention, so they want to just go back to their old life. |
Jul 1, 2021 9:52 PM
#227
| Yikes. The recap was alright I guess? I didn't care much for it and it honestly made me like the series less watching scenes for the second time. It convinced me to drop the score of the main series to a 6 from a 7. Thanks a lot recap. For the actual episode, I can tell what they were going for but it seemed to have an opposite effect. Too much nothing and too unsatisfying. 2/10 |
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Jul 1, 2021 11:35 PM
#228
| Is it bad that I enjoyed the recap more then the season's conclusion. I'm hoping we get a season 2. Because they teased this whole fight with Thanatos thing in episode 12 and I wanna see it. Also gonna say it now the thing with Neiru doesn't make sense to me. Unless the original Neiru died and the company made an AI duplicate that the sister didn't like causing the stabbing and suicide. |
Jul 1, 2021 11:43 PM
#229
| [quote=Jpl79 message=63690793][/Spoilers]Is it bad that I enjoyed the recap more then the season's conclusion. I'm hoping we get a season 2. Because they teased this whole fight with Thanatos thing in episode 12 and I wanna see it. Also gonna say it now the thing with Neiru doesn't make sense to me. Unless the original Neiru died and the company made an AI duplicate that the sister didn't like causing the stabbing and suicide. |
Jul 2, 2021 12:17 AM
#230
| Am I the only one who liked it? It's not that confusing. I'm not calling this an ending, there's no way they wanted it to end it like this. I pray there's a sequel. |
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Jul 2, 2021 12:43 AM
#231
| Bruh... Like seriously? |
Jul 2, 2021 2:00 AM
#232
| wth just happened? more questions on top of unanswered questions from s1's finale? [the final 23 minutes add absolutely nothing but add more confusion.] [After watching episode 12, I was incredibly confused and concerned as to how just one additional episode would be enough to wrap up everything that was introduced in a satisfying way.] |
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Jul 2, 2021 5:04 AM
#233
| wannabe evangelion cringe kekw |
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Jul 2, 2021 6:07 AM
#234
| Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Do they make this Special just so it had a different Score to the main series?????? Cuz damn. Maybe season 2?????????? |
Jul 2, 2021 6:51 AM
#235
| Why start with a recap if the show already had a recap at the end of the series. To me it seems like they simply didn't want the show to be appreciated by anyone. |
Jul 2, 2021 10:36 AM
#236
| The recap didn't really bother me, I mean it's been three months. But, the episode itself is what the fuck. I think it was really interesting by itself, but as an ending, this was shit. The Neiru stuff is honestly interesting, there are already some hints of it in the Kotobuki episode, would have never predicted it though lmao. The problem is, they pretty much threw in the trash all the other plot points they built up like Frill, Acca, Ura Acca, the monsters Frill made and the Warriors of Eros stuff. So from my understanding after watching it multiple times, cause I really didn't understand anything the first time and just thought what the fuck the whole time lmao. Neiru is an AI built by the original Kotobuki in the image of Airu. Airu pretty much got jealous of Neiru, so she stabbed her and then killed herself. The friends they saved are probably like from parallel worlds brought into their world. Like Frill, Neiru wanted to be human. Neiru probably killed herself when Ai didn't answer her phone call. That's why Ai will try to meet her through the egg? Also realized Ai's name is probably on purpose. Ooto Ai, Auto Artificial Intelligence or something lmao. I don't know yet what message this ending tried to convey, I still need to process everything that happened this episode. But I think it was pretty tragic, their friends are alive again but at what cost? For now, I am gonna give this a 6.5/10 |
Jul 2, 2021 11:45 AM
#237
| Why are people comparing this to Eva or other Gainax endings? Lol, I WISH this were a Gainax ending. |
Jul 2, 2021 12:51 PM
#238
| The only reason I can think of why it took 3 months to release this episode is that they were waiting to see receptions of the whole series, to see if they should end the show, or continue with a second season, so they could make this episode accordingly after the season ended. And surely it's the latter, so I don't think there's any need to hate the episode. There's no way it was delayed 3-month long since it's just a regular 23-min episode that could have been easily aired with the rest of the show if not for the reason I stated (or so I hope...). Ai also did V signs ("2" fingers) at the end. To me, it looks like they telling us that there's gonna be a second season. |
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Jul 2, 2021 1:45 PM
#239
Rythme said: The only reason I can think of why it took 3 months to release this episode is that they were waiting to see receptions of the whole series, to see if they should end the show, or continue with a second season, so they could make this episode accordingly after the season ended. And surely it's the latter, so I don't think there's any need to hate the episode. There's no way it was delayed 3-month long since it's just a regular 23-min episode that could have been easily aired with the rest of the show if not for the reason I stated (or so I hope...). Ai also did V signs ("2" fingers) at the end. To me, it looks like they telling us that there's gonna be a second season. It's a reference to when she first decided to fight ep 1 ep13 "Ohto Ai is back" |
Jul 2, 2021 1:49 PM
#240
Rythme said: The only reason I can think of why it took 3 months to release this episode is that they were waiting to see receptions of the whole series, to see if they should end the show, or continue with a second season, so they could make this episode accordingly after the season ended. And surely it's the latter, so I don't think there's any need to hate the episode. There's no way it was delayed 3-month long since it's just a regular 23-min episode that could have been easily aired with the rest of the show if not for the reason I stated (or so I hope...). Ai also did V signs ("2" fingers) at the end. To me, it looks like they telling us that there's gonna be a second season. They couldnt broadcast it with the rest of the series, remember that they had production problems so they did a recap mid series in order to not waste a time slot. They didnt have any other time slot so they probably delayed it in order to be able to get one past the Spring Season (That is reaching though, I don't know that that was the case, but them not being able to air it with the other episodes is because they didnt have any time slot to do so) |
Jul 2, 2021 2:09 PM
#241
Gween_Gween said: Rythme said: The only reason I can think of why it took 3 months to release this episode is that they were waiting to see receptions of the whole series, to see if they should end the show, or continue with a second season, so they could make this episode accordingly after the season ended. And surely it's the latter, so I don't think there's any need to hate the episode. There's no way it was delayed 3-month long since it's just a regular 23-min episode that could have been easily aired with the rest of the show if not for the reason I stated (or so I hope...). Ai also did V signs ("2" fingers) at the end. To me, it looks like they telling us that there's gonna be a second season. They couldnt broadcast it with the rest of the series, remember that they had production problems so they did a recap mid series in order to not waste a time slot. They didnt have any other time slot so they probably delayed it in order to be able to get one past the Spring Season (That is reaching though, I don't know that that was the case, but them not being able to air it with the other episodes is because they didnt have any time slot to do so) Well, tbh timeslot is the best explanation, but I can only hope that that's not the only reason why it was delayed this long lol. There's nothing we can do about it nor do we know what really happened, unless a sequel is really announced. Although there's nothing to back my theory, I'm still having high hopes. And if there's really no second season then whatever, I won't get come back to mad about how it was executed since I'll probably already have forgotten about it by then anyway... |
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Jul 3, 2021 12:19 AM
#242
| Kind of a pointless "finale." Just left it open-ended with unanswered questions for a potential season 2. The thing is, if it gets a season 2, they would have been better starting it off with that. Great series, generic finale. Hoping for a season 2 someday that fixes and answers things. |
Jul 3, 2021 5:51 AM
#243
| So what i dont get is: when they referred to "the girl u met at the office was airu" do they mean the first time she met neiru? Also how going back to the Wonder egg world will allow Ai to meet neiru? |
Jul 3, 2021 9:21 AM
#244
| After episode 6 this anime started going downhill the only good thing was knowing acca and ura acca story also animation was a solid 8/10, as for the anime itself 6/10. What a waste of time...many plotholes and answers. |
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Jul 3, 2021 9:54 AM
#245
NiJaS said: So what i dont get is: when they referred to "the girl u met at the office was airu" do they mean the first time she met neiru? Also how going back to the Wonder egg world will allow Ai to meet neiru? If you watch the beginning Neiru wakes up from her Egg Dream after bringing back Airu, we heard Airu (or was that Frill?) saying "Your place is gone now". Later when they watch her dream, Airu asks if she is going to stay there since she has no place in the real world now, Neiru says no she wants to see her friends but she waits for them to find out she is an AI first (why she left on a bus, didn't answer her phone, and left Adam the rat with Ai). Ai tries calling but she won't answer and so goes to her office, there she meets Airu (who looks identical) she is the one who says she doesn't know Ai (she pretended to be Neiru). After finding out she is an AI (from the secretary showing them her dream) Neiru tries calling and Ai throws away her phone. Now knowing her friends rejected her (to see them was why she was going back) she goes back the Egg World. Ai regrets rejecting her and figures out where she went (from watching the dream) and so goes back to the park to buy an egg so she can enter the Egg World and see Neiru. I assume a different Kotobuki being there means Neiru learned from her how to travel to parallel worlds like she did. |
Jul 4, 2021 10:23 AM
#246
| ok I'm going to come to the defense of this episode for a minute. I am not dissatisfied with the story direction, and I'm ok with how it concluded. There are no important questions that aren't at least half-resolved. Neiru was a robot. There are parallel worlds. When a wonder egg is cracked, the young girls who killed themselves are not reborn; they're pulled from another timeline. We can't be angry this series steeped in surrealistic fantasy from episode 1 decided to reconfigure its modus operandi. When the girls accomplish their mission, Frill takes it upon herself to "restore balance" by killing the girl -- or, in substitute, their pet. For Ai, the parallel Ai sacrificed herself instead. We're not gonna get a resolution to Frill's arc. I'm fine with that. Not every arc needs a resolution. Everything that happened here makes perfect sense within the context of the series. Now Ai is going on another round of wonder egg restoration to retrieve Neiru, presumably reborn in another timeline as a human. There are questions here, but none that ruin the scope of the plot point. I'm perfectly content leaving some questions to the imagination. People jizz all over Serial Experiments Lain and similar shows for that sort of storytelling. ... so why the FUUUUUCK did they condense all of the series twists -- all of which easily justifiable -- into the span of precisely 2 episodes? We didn't even know Frill existed until episode 11. We got another ep of recap in this conclusion. Wasn't there a recap in the season proper, too? Pretty much all of the actual plot happened in the ass end of the series with virtually zero buildup, foreshadowing (maybe? I'd need to rewatch to confirm that), and paced at breakneck speed. The problem isn't the twists, and it isn't the lack of resolution. It's the pacing. The audience isn't even given time to digest the sudden shifts. I had to rewatch parts of the last couple episodes, then cognitively break down everything that happened here to process what actually happened. I'm not surprised half the audience is fucking baffled. wtf man. anyway the tone and plot sequence is still peak Zadicore shit despite the criticisms so it is not ruined for me. would rewatch/10. |
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Jul 4, 2021 11:26 AM
#247
| So is that really the ending? What a disappointment... |
Jul 4, 2021 12:18 PM
#248
| WTF was that? First half was a recap and the 2nd half was a waste of time. Seriously, waited months for this to end and that's what they gave us? Better be a 2nd season or at least a movie to finish it off properly. |
Jul 5, 2021 7:14 AM
#249
| It was an ok episode if it's not the last episode for this anime... They end it horribly with a unfinished story. No wonder they didn't show hows Neiru sister look like before, it's because she look exactly the same as Neiru is. Of course the dead person won't get resurrect that easily, they just get the 'same' person from the parallel timeline. If they do make a 2nd season, I bet Episode 8 is going to be a recap episode again xD |
Jul 5, 2021 8:38 AM
#250
Zadion said: ok I'm going to come to the defense of this episode for a minute. I am not dissatisfied with the story direction, and I'm ok with how it concluded. There are no important questions that aren't at least half-resolved. Neiru was a robot. There are parallel worlds. When a wonder egg is cracked, the young girls who killed themselves are not reborn; they're pulled from another timeline. We can't be angry this series steeped in surrealistic fantasy from episode 1 decided to reconfigure its modus operandi. When the girls accomplish their mission, Frill takes it upon herself to "restore balance" by killing the girl -- or, in substitute, their pet. For Ai, the parallel Ai sacrificed herself instead. We're not gonna get a resolution to Frill's arc. I'm fine with that. Not every arc needs a resolution. Everything that happened here makes perfect sense within the context of the series. Now Ai is going on another round of wonder egg restoration to retrieve Neiru, presumably reborn in another timeline as a human. There are questions here, but none that ruin the scope of the plot point. I'm perfectly content leaving some questions to the imagination. People jizz all over Serial Experiments Lain and similar shows for that sort of storytelling. . Always listen to Neiru, this isn't about bringing dead friends back from the egg world. In episode 2 when Ai tells her that's what she is doing she asks her "Are you sure you just don't like yourself and want to change?" By the end of the show we learn, yes that what it's about and Ai does change, end of story. As to your other points, Neiru wasn't a robot (though that's what Rika calls her) she has a pulse (a heart), eats, gets hurt and heals, etc. Hmm was that Frill's goal? To restore balance (is she Anakin Skywalker?) I go back to the episode where the pets are given to fight the "haters" and the Accas explain the more they accomplish the more well known they get and so become targets. So by bringing a girl back they have become famous enough in the egg world that they are now targets of Frill herself, who sends her "fly" girls after them. As for Frill the Accas have an interesting conversation where Ur-Acca says to Acca, "you don't care about saving Frill as long as you can save your daughter" and Acca says "hasn't that how we've always been?" So it's not really even clear why the Accas were trying to get "warriors of Eros" to kill Frill or save her. As for Neiru, I'm not 100% sure where she went. I presume to the egg world, but permanently, like how Koitobuki was able to show up here (did she learn it from her?). The whole physicallity of the egg world I didn't quite grasp completely, was it like the Matrix (Frill's computers in the storage shed are still running so I presume she created it there) and instead of a brain jack you had an egg? Or could you also physically go there without falling asleep with an egg. Or I think maybe Neiru like Frill and her friends (Dot, Hyphen, SS Plum whatever) being an Ai uploaded herself. (Was that why we see her body in a field when Ai didn't answer the phone?). |
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