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RIGHT IN THE KOKORO I burst into tears seeing that holy crap. This show has been an unusual ride; but i can't help but shake the feeling that there is much left to be desired. There are too many things left in the open, such as where is Magane?? You can feel the level the series was gong for, give the impression of mass hype and being a huge deal of a series, however the latter half sorta slowly crumbled into a mess, a mess that has it's moments. I really don't know how to adequately respond to this series, as it's given me a lot of hype and even managed to make me cry, but at the same time it feels like i was given a delicious yet very small portioned meal, perhaps missing a spice; delicious as it may be, it isn't enough to satisfy. |
GenesisAriaSep 18, 2017 2:25 AM
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| the last episode was great so I give Re:CREATORS 8/10 ! |
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| Nice episode to close this series, but....unnecessary!!!! All that survive return their home, except Meteora because her magic didn´t allow!! Meteora end be a "creator", paradox of destiny, a creation end be creator!! kekeke To my taste, the series was enlarge, with 13 episodes can tell the same.... ...5/10 to me, and i am a little dissapointing with this series!!! |
Ranxomare said: Nice episode to close this series, but....unnecessary!!!! All that survive return their home, except Meteora because her magic didn´t allow!! Meteora end be a "creator", paradox of destiny, a creation end be creator!! kekeke To my taste, the series was enlarge, with 13 episodes can tell the same.... ...5/10 to me, and i am a little dissapointing with this series!!! Not all that survived, in theory, ALL them survived. It is like nothing happened. |
| best ending..its rare now anime with an epilogue |
| Mles better then previous episode. Nothing much happened but almost everyone got to move on with their worlds. Quite good series with few unique quirks about it, that had potential too be 2 levels higher then it already is at least, but it struggled since the biggest strenght of being original work pulled it down quite a bit and like authors were mashing ideas all over the place and direction was almost lost. |
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| This show was fucking stupid, pointless, didn't make any sense and I wasn't expecting much tbh, I only continued watching because of the interesting premise. This is definitely a show that tried to force up its own hype, good to see this failed, fuck you Aniplex, you hacks. Lackluster animation, poor directing, pointless bland characters and a stupid story... Wasted potential, shame since it had a really cool concept behind it. 2.5-3/10 and I'm being generous |
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Cour_Victor said: NO. Selesia we know is dead. Some other Selesia lives somewhere else, but Matsubara is giving her what she wanted due to obligation. That's what you want to believe. It is the same discussion with Setsuna (she is a copy, why because Souta's didn't know all the background information about her. An easy explanation did Souta knew about her favorite color in middle school probably not so that event needs to be filled with the character by an unknown force as Hiroe tried to explain in an interview about a blank character). The case is different with Selesia, I am going to apply the whole Re: Creator's explanation with her. She is the real one (all her background is reconstructed in that new character totally), why because Matsubara IS ALIVE and is the creator so knows most the background if not everything. Same for Mamika, the other blank parts will be filled by an unknown event that fixes plot holes. That's the explanation from the people of TROYCA. So that's why the story isn't that great because it fails in several parts. For example, Blitz and the other characters that returned to their own stories, ¿is Blitz (the one that returned) the same Blizt if a new story is written? If I follow your argument, he isn't. |
Pipe said: You misunderstood the entire thing. Holy fuck this is bad. And you're blaming the showrunners for it. No, she doesn't live through her creator or anything. She'll be a completely new one if she is brought back from her story. Her memories are exclusive to the Selesia we know and died. Yes, he isn't the same Blitz. Some Blitz in some world got extracted, but that didn't change Suruga's story. The Blitz who left left for his spin-off with his daughter, one of the possible branches of his story.Cour_Victor said: NO. Selesia we know is dead. Some other Selesia lives somewhere else, but Matsubara is giving her what she wanted due to obligation. That's what you want to believe. It is the same discussion with Setsuna (she is a copy, why because Souta's didn't know all the background information about her. An easy explanation did Souta knew about her favorite color in middle school probably not so that event needs to be filled with the character by an unknown force as Hiroe tried to explain in an interview about a blank character). The case is different with Selesia, I am going to apply the whole Re: Creator's explanation with her. She is the real one (all her background is reconstructed in that new character totally), why because Matsubara IS ALIVE and is the creator so knows most the background if not everything. Same for Mamika, the other blank parts will be filled by an unknown event that fixes plot holes. That's the explanation from the people of TROYCA. So that's why the story isn't that great because it fails in several parts. For example, Blitz and the other characters that returned to their own stories, ¿is Blitz (the one that returned) the same Blizt if a new story is written? If I follow your argument, he isn't. What a disgrace. Read. What does it say? END of one possible branch. You know what end is? It means death.  |
Cour_VictorSep 18, 2017 1:16 PM
| Old me would give this show a 6-5/10 but since I can't care about technicalities at face value anymore (#c0llegesUxx), I'll just boil it down to how much I enjoyed the insights around story-telling and creation of fiction in general. 7/10 |
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| 5/10 - average series, nothing really stand out except the uniform princess |
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Cour_Victor said: Pipe said: One Selesia is dead from so many possibilities. But, if you bring another Selesia to the world, will she act in the same way? I agree you can't give that experiences back into the character, the ones that she got in this world (I already said it in my example about Setsuna and her middle school color). That's why I don't consider the story good because that Setsuna isn't the real Setsuna because she doesn't have all that information on her and with a simple "the creator of Altair" as background can't recreate all the experiences and feelings involved in her life, pain etc. That's exactly the reason why Setsuna and Selesia are different. You bring Selesia, you bring a pile of words realized through universe's effort. You bring Setsuna in a living story, a fictional world you can interact with at the time, you bring an actual person in. You can't change her destiny, you can't make her real and bring her back to the real world like you can with Setsuna, since they both adhere to the audience's common will and the audience can't know enough about Setsuna to realize her the way she used to be. They can read in detail and accept Matsubara's depiction of Selesia's personality so that she can function with that as a baseline. And that's whythe story failed in plot terms. |
| I would like to confirm something. Does that mean Souta was the cause of Altair to exist in the real world ? |
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Cour_Victor said: Pipe said: One Selesia is dead from so many possibilities. But, if you bring another Selesia to the world, will she act in the same way? I agree you can't give that experiences back into the character, the ones that she got in this world (I already said it in my example about Setsuna and her middle school color). That's why I don't consider the story good because that Setsuna isn't the real Setsuna because she doesn't have all that information on her and with a simple "the creator of Altair" as background can't recreate all the experiences and feelings involved in her life, pain etc. That's exactly the reason why Setsuna and Selesia are different. You bring Selesia, you bring a pile of words realized through universe's effort. You bring Setsuna in a living story, a fictional world you can interact with at the time, you bring an actual person in. You can't change her destiny, you can't make her real and bring her back to the real world like you can with Setsuna, since they both adhere to the audience's common will and the audience can't know enough about Setsuna to realize her the way she used to be. They can read in detail and accept Matsubara's depiction of Selesia's personality so that she can function with that as a baseline. It's exactly like a fictional character coming to the real life. You can't give her every input to react accordingly, but if you give it enough the audience has no reason to question her acts being consistent with her personality. Hiroe Rei confirms while “technically speaking this “Setsuna” is something created by Souta, (she’s now) a character without any additional settings, besides being an ordinary girl who created Altair. Otherwise, she wouldn’t be “Setsuna Shimazaki”. (I already said that several times) In addition, he stated Setsuna’s debut was possible through Magane’s power and something extra he calls “the superposition of information” (情報の重層さ). That event “the superposition of information” (情報の重層さ) isn't a miracle, isn't Magane's power is a result and as I wrote on my review a plot hole fill, a lame explanation because without it that Setsuna won't be Setsuna no matter the acceptance, Magane's power and other factors. In other words, if she doesn't have any additional setting her thoughts and personality were filled thanks to the superposition of the information. (One Setsuna died with red glasses, the new one wears Souta's ones, the information mixed) Also to bring back the other debate, if we use the superposition of the information with Selesia, she could return. Why because as Hiroe said "is information" Setsuna, Selesia all their background is information. Following Hiroe's explanation, create a Selesia with a background "the one that came to the real world" and done the superposition will do the rest. For some persons is a fake Setsuna for others is the real one. The door is open to decide which one is. Also about the image that you posted. It is what Meteora said because she doesn't know about the event that Hiroe named. For them, it must be a mystery, for me is just a way to fix the plot. PS: I am not going to continue this never-ending loop discussion. I have better things to do. |
PipeSep 18, 2017 5:03 PM
Same. I can't believe I cried for fictional characters created by fictional characters. : [ Goodbye to Our Beloved Family Let's hope for a sequel someday. |
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| Re: PETITIVE what a disappointment this is, another wasted potential Also they can't even explain what happened to Magane, something as simple as showing her for at least a couple of seconds to give us viewers some clues, they fucked up Sweet ending tho This is me being lenient 3/10 |
LairucremSep 19, 2017 2:09 AM
TsundeReaper said: that's for manga promotionRe: PETITIVE what a disappointment this is, another wasted potential Also they can't even explain what happened to Magane, something as simple as showing her for at least a couple of seconds to give us viewers some clues, they fucked up Sweet ending tho This is me being lenient 3/10 |
alvinozthadr said: Ironwarrer said: thanks for share, save all of it 😍hehehehe I liked this show, it is true, this anime and its history have an incredible potential, to take the plot more seriously, it is possible to create a sequel even better and spectacular. Beyond those thems are only opinions and thing of taste. On the other hand I love that Meteora would not stay alone returning to a world that could never progress. And that she stays in the world of Sota is fantastic! well, she stole the protagonism of Altair from time to time throughout the chapters, and fuck!!! She is beautiful!... Minori Inase is a Beautiful seiyu! and Meteora is soo sexy! 💙💙👌 Nice yuri-plot, something forced but interesting?...sure! xD HOLY SHIT! I loved Kanoya's mecha, Gigas Makina is a fucking weapon of mass destruction son the bitch! awesome! ...seriously I wanted to read and see in anime Monomagia: The Infinite Over Machine! Troyca-Mecha, The Best Mecha 💙💙👍   Selesia! mmmmh... nice body to even have died ❤️❤️👌  Amazing battles and epics OST and cute animation: RE:Creators 8.8/10 :3  hahahahaha you're welcome xD |
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| Meh kinda underwhelming, just like the anime I have mixed feelings. It has lots of wasted potential, I think it tried to be too much at the same time and failed. Also the G I A N T plotholes created here ... by going back to your world you should loose all your memory because unless the creator totally fucks up the story with this filler arc and makes it canon they did not even dream it because no times passed in their world. (Makes me wonder what happens when a story ends. Do they cease to exist with the concept Re:Creators tried to show? Does a hiatus mean they are stuck in endless repetitions of endless eight? - I think I see now what happened to the haruhi franchise ^^) Things like Blitz Daughter, she would instant vanish by going back because there is no plot for her revival in his story. It worked for the "spin off" with magic like his creator explained but his world has nothing like this. Imo all of them should have stayed. By witnessing and understanding what happened they are pretty much unable to even exist in their storys. Going back equals suicide. They already exist there. My overall biggest concern is that pretty much none of the creations where needed for the story. They could have changed them however they wanted, the only exceptions where oviously Altair, Meteora (because someone needs to solve all the mess. Which means her character was not needed but her power), Magane (because she actually mader her own decisions and her power was crucial for the final) and best grill Mamika. While the other creations where more or less interesting, they added nothing to the main story line. I was actually more interested into some of the "fake" anime they came from then Re:Creators itself. That beeing said the best thing about this final was the poster where Mamika and Knight girl where together. I would actually watch that as an OVA. meh 6/10 decent animation and nice ost. Im glad this is finally over. |
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Koolman511 said: I would like to confirm something. Does that mean Souta was the cause of Altair to exist in the real world ? Please someone answer the question |
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Terrarc said: Holy shit you're rightWell I'll point that out since no one seem to understand this. Meteora didn't just name her novel "Re:Creators" She wrote it, the entire story was Meteora's creation. Try thinking a bit about that and I'm sure you'll find a lot of sense in this ending. Appart from that, the music were awesome and they used the 4th wall break like no one ever did, really great use of it. Some bad points, can't deny that but even tho it was really entertaining and enjoyable, probably one of my favorite anime. |
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Koolman511 said: Koolman511 said: I would like to confirm something. Does that mean Souta was the cause of Altair to exist in the real world ? Please someone answer the question Altair was created by Setsuna for Sota. You could partially say that yes, Sota was partially responsible, as that character was meant to be shown to him. HOWEVER, Sota is not the one who summoned her. The reason why Altair appeared is unclear. I believe that even Meteora touched that point in the final episode. |
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FrozenSheep said: Altair was created by Setsuna for Sota. You could partially say that yes, Sota was partially responsible, as that character was meant to be shown to him. HOWEVER, Sota is not the one who summoned her. The reason why Altair appeared is unclear. I believe that even Meteora touched that point in the final episode. Thanks for clearing it up. The thing which got me thinking about this was when Meteroa ,during the grave scene, the lines got cut off when asking if Sota was the cause of Altair existence. |
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Terrarc said: Well I'll point that out since no one seem to understand this. Meteora didn't just name her novel "Re:Creators" She wrote it, the entire story was Meteora's creation. Try thinking a bit about that and I'm sure you'll find a lot of sense in this ending. Appart from that, the music were awesome and they used the 4th wall break like no one ever did, really great use of it. Some bad points, can't deny that but even tho it was really entertaining and enjoyable, probably one of my favorite anime. Somewhere along the way Magane probably real-boots it (forgive the ChäoS;HEAd terminology). Meteora needs to study more fiction to get better at writing and pacing etc. |
GenesisAriaSep 19, 2017 5:05 PM
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| Good and satisfying show, which had good and bad moments. I would've liked it much more if it focused more on some creations and less on fucking Sota. The tension and clashes between characters on their opinions and goals was to be given proper follow-up not just as to divide them in opposing factions. Fucking Sota (yeah, I do despise him), he was just so self-absorbed in his self-loathing that it ruins every scene he inserts his wimpy self into. And nobody even reprimanded or called-out on his despicable act of forsaking his only friend whose last hope was relying on him. Everyone was like 'cool man, its done, move on'. But as in every other show, he's the last hope on whom everything depends, despite being a talentless hack of illustrator, he's the ultimate hero. But it did some good moments like no forced romance, nice action sequences and godly OST. 7/10 |
MareepYay said: This was a nice ending. I honestly enjoyed this very much and found it fun, even though I have had a few gripes with it along the way. A 7/10. :) Don't lie it was just an AVERAGE SERIES. I am laughing at people giving a 7+/10. Seriously go back watch how average this series is. |
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Renaultclio101 said: Don't lie it was just an AVERAGE SERIES. I am laughing at people giving a 7+/10. Seriously go back watch how average this series is. I'm a harsh critic, but it is suprising to see for me how much hate this show gets. The show tries a lot of things and sometimes too much, but that also makes it special when it succeeds. Most people that give low scores seem to either forget or miss the intricate character writing we got from this show that is not comperable to anything else in the medium. Or people are children and butthurt because 'my favorite character didn't get enough screentime'. There are mountains of critique that could be brought up against the show, but if you judge fair there are also mountains of great things that more than balance the weaker parts. |
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| Great ending, at least everyone went back to their worlds. Feel bad for Meteora, but i think she will enjoy staying here. Glad that they did a crossover with Mamika & Alicetaria. Lucky Oonishi xD I boy...i guess that Kikuchihara and Matsubara will get to know each other better xD It was a great run. 8-9/10 Best team ;)  @Stark700 |
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| No wonder Metchin is so noisy in this series, She's the Creator of this series lol... Still kind of hoping what happens to Magane in the End tho'. Overall is a good series (for an Original series, yep), Kind of hoping the Series could go better but well I think they did their best, just like my opinion for Aldnoah:Zero back then. But the Ending delivers well IMO. I probably will miss this show, especially the musics... |
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| The storyteller stays... but I don't care about that! Magane stays to create more havoc and watch more havoc, so at the least I am satisfied with the ending. And there's no one that can nerve her down, bcs her creator is dead! MWAHAHAHAHAHA |
| well,a lot of nonsense show that i really enjoy 8/10. |
| One of the most brilliant and creative anime I've seen. Godlike soundtrack and superb artwork. Troyca really set themselves quite a bar and it did not disappoint. I have high hopes for whatever anime they will release in the future. That aside, I seriously hope Troyca will announce the anime release of 'Elemental Symphony of Voggelchavelier' for real xD |
| A AVERAGE SERIES, I am laughing at people giving a 7+/10. Seriously go back watch how average this series is. |
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