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| I more or less knew that Aika was mage of Exodus and that she commited suicide,when Samon said that killler wasnt anybody from Kusaribe clan and Mage of Exodus would be only one, who could slip past that"killer findier spell". |
mora404 said: same but they did make aika much more of a.....well she was actually a character for once, all previous instances of her she was nothing more than a means to move the plot, this time she actually had a personality and character to her.....too bad shes probably not gonna have any more screen time here on out.Interesting episode. I still like Hakaze more than Aika. Anyhow loved the episode, and thats coming from a guy thats been disappointed with every single ep since 13. The animation and ost was top notch this episode, just saying this song right here really sold aika's death for me, this magnificently epic, tragic yet hopeful song completly fit the mood of what was going on |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Fuwa Aika is now my favorite female character. |
Fallen_Lullaby said: Even if she did want to bang Mahiro, I don't blame her. I would too if he was real. So yeah, more Aika flashbacks is win. :) *.* THIS ;3 Haters gonna hate. |
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| Woahhhh Great episode! I liked then interaction between Aika and Hakaze. Hakaze was freakin' out while Aika was so calm and collected. Also, that punch was priceless u.u Pretty much everybody got trolled by Aika xD She's definitely one of my favorite characters now. I still love the references to Shakespeare. Now I want to see how will Hakaze deal with the Tree of Genesis, and how will Yoshino and Mahiro take the news u.u |
| "We should be more proud of NEETs! Love the country that strives to produce NEETs, for world peace, we must stand up! We must find more non NEET-in-waiting elites, learn from each other , form a new Japanese Party, and bravely challenge the evil! Grow, NEETs! Grow like blazing fire! NEETs!” |
| So well done |
| i cant belive its almost over :( |
| Such an epic episode <3 |
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IAtePringles said: We have 3 more weeks, thats about 13% of the series, we still got a little chunk of it left.i cant belive its almost over :( |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Loved this episode! But i still don't get one thing though and that's, why did she sacrifice herself in the first place? I mean there had to be one time in a different past where she'd sacrifice herself without Hakaze going back in time and telling her about the future, right? |
bastek66 said: Quite the pocket knife she's packing there. |
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| Damn dat preview, looks like Hanemura snapped, and went ape shit on Mahiro and Yoshino for some reason. Aika did mention that he's like a back-up mage who's supposed to replace her after she died, looks like that power is finally coming out. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: I wonder...too bad shes probably not gonna have any more screen time here on out. |
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| I hope something unexpected will happen at the end. This is too sad and desperate. I really hate time traveling with no effect of changing present. |
ecimir said: I hope something unexpected will happen at the end. This is too sad and desperate. I really hate time traveling with no effect of changing present. I hate when time travel is used to fill up plot holes. |
Reeve said: I usually don't care for time travel stories for that same reason.ecimir said: I hope something unexpected will happen at the end. This is too sad and desperate. I really hate time traveling with no effect of changing present. I hate when time travel is used to fill up plot holes. |
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| Finally, an amazing episode! I might change the rating of this show just because of that episode. |
| Aika don't give damn if she died for the sake of defeating the tree that will destroy civilization. The difference between her and Hakaze power is like Heaven and Earth. Only 3 episodes left, will miss this show when it ends. |
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| Next episode is called Fuwa Aika, I like it. |
| Such good animation. Completely engrossing |
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| Such awesome story telling. Those who called the series pretentious originally with all the shakespeare quotes must feel differently now ^^. I think they fit well both in terms of exposition/mood as well as plot. Ok so there are arguable a few off lines which may seem a little forced but otherwise, it's done really well imo :) |
Neoclaw said: Loved this episode! But i still don't get one thing though and that's, why did she sacrifice herself in the first place? I mean there had to be one time in a different past where she'd sacrifice herself without Hakaze going back in time and telling her about the future, right? Where's John Titor when you need him? You'd be correct, there has to be an original world line where the future cannot effect the past. That is, if we're taking the chicken and egg paradox into account. Zetsuen probably isn't going by those strict(logical) time traveling rules, so I don't suppose it really matters. |
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| damnnn she moved so gracefully in that fight. was so beautiful to watch. love that scene. love her now and probably love this series now. wish it had more of that |
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| Aika and Hakaze talked first, then what Aika said made Hakaze mad and wanted to stop her, who is stronger. So KajiKaji's character was a backup. Looks like everyone's shocked with the result to the extend that the two friends fight each other. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| one thing im looking foreword to is that shit looks like its going to go very wrong next episode for our characters |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Absolutely adore this episode. Well done BONES. One of the most enjoyable episodes so far. |
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Neoclaw said: ah.. don't try to confuse yourself.. it was already written in fate and there is no one time different in the past.. cause and effect is distorted and it made a paradoxical loop (i.e. Aika died because Hakaze went back to the past because Aika died because Hakaze went back to the past because Aika died because.. .. .., etc.).. this is naturally what happens in single continuity type time travel stories (this is different from Steins;Gate's multiple continuities type), where whatever happened with the past, future and all time travels in between are already written before and could not be prevented, even if they end up creating a distortion in cause and effect..Loved this episode! But i still don't get one thing though and that's, why did she sacrifice herself in the first place? I mean there had to be one time in a different past where she'd sacrifice herself without Hakaze going back in time and telling her about the future, right? AuronPond said: i like this analysis.. it brings out more meaning to the episode and to the series as a whole..Something outlined in this episode that no one has seemed to point out yet is that Aika is the one following logic. Hakaze is the one trying to disrupt it. If I recall correctly, the power of the Kusaribe clan works only if it follows the logic of the world. So, in a sense, the moment she decided to go back in time, Hakaze was predetermined and destined to lose this fight. Even if she was confirmed to be stronger than Aika, she was going to lose. Because she is not following the logic set for her, the end result was bound to be the same. Aika fought knowing this, which shows her intelligence, able to exceed that of time and space. Another interesting point is Aika's description of the Magic of Exodus. They draw power directly from the tree. Their power is basically always greater than that of the Kusaribe clan. Whereas the Tree of Genesis gives power under the false pretense of control, the Tree of Exodus gives full reign without cause. To summarize, it's like the lifelong battle between Assassins and Templars. Whereas the Templars seek control in order to establish peace, the Assasins believe that freedom is more important than peace itself. Subjectively, neither side is right or wrong. Philosophical meaning like that is what makes the series so good. Things made sense long before the anime even reached this point, but the series masked it quite well. |
argiliumMar 7, 2013 6:07 PM
| This show is just straight up amazing. When Aika was revealed to be the Mage of Exodus I was guessing that she'd either kill herself or let Hakaze kill her, but even though it wasn't far off from what I thought, the execution was just incredibly well done. When Hakaze ran back to see Aika and then ran to the Fuwa family grave, I actually felt like I could've cried. The death of one person allowing everything to happen. Although using time travel to tie everything together is a bit akin to cheating, the plot is great. Love this episode. But it does look like the next episode will be quite tumultuous. |
Blackice15 said: This is just a theory and i'm probably completely wrong, however. As was seen with Aika's Sword and multiple other weapons that her power might be able to create objects.With this power could it be possible that she faked her death and in turn had the Tree of Exodus awaken the second mage in an attempt to fool the Tree of Genesis. Thus allowing her to move more freely or plan an unexpected attack on the Tree of Genesis. I'm hoping that something like this happens. Aika doesn't have to die, so long as Yoshino, Mahiro, and the rest of the world think she has died--the events can proceed just as well. Further to that, didn't we have suspicion cast on Yoshino of being the mage of exodus because Hanemura has the power, but not the heart of the mage? If anyone has the heart, it is Aika. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: one thing im looking foreword to is that shit looks like its going to go very wrong next episode for our characters Right! Next week looks sooooo good. |
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| Just what I expected. Aika killed herself... but the revelations still kinda caught me off guard. I really wonder what kind of time paradox happened in the present. Hanemura seems to be beating up our main characters in the next ep. |
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rodac said: Blackice15 said: This is just a theory and i'm probably completely wrong, however. As was seen with Aika's Sword and multiple other weapons that her power might be able to create objects.With this power could it be possible that she faked her death and in turn had the Tree of Exodus awaken the second mage in an attempt to fool the Tree of Genesis. Thus allowing her to move more freely or plan an unexpected attack on the Tree of Genesis. I'm hoping that something like this happens. Aika doesn't have to die, so long as Yoshino, Mahiro, and the rest of the world think she has died--the events can proceed just as well. Further to that, didn't we have suspicion cast on Yoshino of being the mage of exodus because Hanemura has the power, but not the heart of the mage? If anyone has the heart, it is Aika. @Blackice15 Your theory reminds me of Steins;Gate. @rodac Well, if she didn't died then Hanemura would never inherit the power of Exodus. Yoshino is still suspicious to me. >__> Overall the episode was great =D Aika went falcon punch on Hakaze for pushing Yoshino emotion. >__> Hakaze just went emo. Aika sacrifice herself for Yoshino and Mahiro, because the world would be destroy in 10 years. Aika is the detective, victim and the murderer. |
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| Wow, this episode might have just changed my perspective on this entire series. I can't say it was all unexpected, but the way it was all presented was amazing. I've been enjoying the series up till now, but I never really felt myself truly engrossed in it. I was definitely in that category of people who found the series somewhat pretentious (sorry, but I do still find some of the Shakespeare quotes a bit excessive and pretentious), and I did find some of the storytelling kind of awkward, but I felt that the storytelling in this episode was fantastic and made everything come together. |
| WHOA...that's how her (Aika's) name is written? The characters in her name could directly translate to "Unbreakable Love Flower" or something....which surprisingly is very fitting of her. But yeah....wow....Aika dies to ultimately cause Hakaze to go against the Tree.... Gawd I'm feeling so sad for Yoshino (ok ok & Mahiro) now..... I'm probably gonna wait & marathon the last 3 eps now cuz we've kinda reached that sort of 'climax' of it all....I mean...all they gotta do now is Deal with it and beat up that tree. |
IkanoMar 7, 2013 7:35 PM
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| Something is not right though, with this time travel I don't get it. Fuwa Aika wouldn't have died if Hakaze didn't go back in the past. So does this mean there was a past where Fuwa Aika killed herself even if Hakaze didn't travel in the past? WTF that wouldn't make sense though cuz no one can change the past. I don't know how to explain well, what I don't understand but I hope someone will understand what Im trying to say here and clear things up for me thank you. |
lonelydemon said: Something is not right though, with this time travel I don't get it. Fuwa Aika wouldn't have died if Hakaze didn't go back in the past. So does this mean there was a past where Fuwa Aika killed herself even if Hakaze didn't travel in the past? WTF that wouldn't make sense though cuz no one can change the past. I don't know how to explain well, what I don't understand but I hope someone will understand what Im trying to say here and clear things up for me thank you. It's the same problem with Terminator, about John Conor's father being from the future. I guess thats its the same, when you travel back in time you erase the previous version of the story in that case being Aika getting killed by someone else. I kinda found it dumb that they never really reveal the real killer though :/ |
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| There couldn't have been a past where some1else killed Aika, remember past cannot be change. |
| In that case how does she die in the original universe ? I dont see a reason for her to kill herself. |
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| Well then the same reason, Hakaze went to the past also. It's like an infinite loop sorry can't explain in details. |
| This is so fucked up o_o |
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| aika = instant top 10 char p.s. to all the people who say it was predictable, you are all full of sh*t. i can predict that you will doe; however, what happens in between? the details is what is important. try writing your own story and you'll soon realize how hard it is to come up with the meat of the story. |
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Tsukuyomi-Ryuku said: lonelydemon said: Something is not right though, with this time travel I don't get it. Fuwa Aika wouldn't have died if Hakaze didn't go back in the past. So does this mean there was a past where Fuwa Aika killed herself even if Hakaze didn't travel in the past? WTF that wouldn't make sense though cuz no one can change the past. I don't know how to explain well, what I don't understand but I hope someone will understand what Im trying to say here and clear things up for me thank you. It's the same problem with Terminator, about John Conor's father being from the future. I guess thats its the same, when you travel back in time you erase the previous version of the story in that case being Aika getting killed by someone else. I kinda found it dumb that they never really reveal the real killer though :/ think of a line. time flows in a line. aika dies in point A. hakaze begins time traveling in point B to go backwards to point A. however, note that they are all along the same plane, the same line. on this line, hakaze will always travel back to point A no matter what. after she's done that, point C is available and time moves forward. or in other terms, the mission must be completed before the gods, the author, whatever, allows us to proceed to point C. no time travel = no available next point. |
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