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Feb 10, 2010 3:39 AM

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lol no thanks but still like someone said above

40 minutes of talking 10 minutes of figthing


Feb 10, 2010 3:57 AM

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Basically, they're just sitting in the middle of the freacking desert, chatting about whatever for whatever reasons...

Yet, why was that not boring for a bit, and even enjoyable I must say...?
Feb 10, 2010 4:08 AM

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This was a very amusing episode. I find Togame to be pretty cute...but I fear she has some secrets that we won't like....idk, just guessing here.
Feb 10, 2010 5:53 AM

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Uneri Kinkaku was incredible but old and looked out of energy. Inaba area was interesting especially the castle but how did it ever get into a dessert? Just be expansion.....I would not think so but I am no geography expert at all. Shirasagi Maniwa was a interesting ninja=>
talking backwards but it irritated me more than anything....good thing he is gone. Togame was absolutely cute with her eyes=>
but also with her full blush=>
her expressions of Cheerio and Gyafun were also pleasant. OP is a favorite as of now! This part absolutely sensual in its unique way and this=>
I would not mind but I have Sawako.. :P Kyoto talking/staying was just view wise nice...maybe those 2 guys part was interesting. The fight was amazing and deserves its own GIF Kyotouryuu 7th art Rakka Rouzeki!=>
also Zerosen five lives!=> some GIFs of Togame are interesting also=>
She mentions dominatrix but look at her shows....they look like they might be from a dominatrix=>
Overall the episode was fantastic but It was disappointing that the sword was not shown like in the last one... :(
Laevantein said:
HawthorneKitty said:
Gyafun>Cheerio
imo
This, it really surprised me when he use her head as a wall XD
Yeah same here..female abuse! XD and the above is wrong! It's more Cheerio>Gyafun
Sillya said:
They talk so much, but the fight was good and they are a really cute couple. But poor Togame. XD
Poor Togame yes but talking is good...explains a lot with area, people and history of the world of this series.
Kantarou said:
Talking backwards his with to listen to pain real a was ninja Maniwa that. Fast so down cut got he goodness thank. Broadcasted it watching when with up put to had viewers the what imagine could I.
The talk backwards was annoying and that is so true.

Kantarou said:
That aisde, the meta humour this time went even further with the whole novel discussion but did they really need to have that talk while sitting in the middle of the desert? The only trouble they(or just Togame) seemed to have was the walking distance, scorching heat and whatnot seemingly non-present.

Yes she looked like she had problems with long distance and climate....could that be why she brought a lot of clothing? Also the talk in the middle of the dessert about a "catchphrase"? Ok sure....
Kantarou said:
I'm really liking Shichika as a protagonist. His totally oblivious and simple minded personality really makes their relationship seem more like a girl and her new pet more than travelling partners.

Personally I liked more that Togame has a shy side that is not overwhelming like Louise in Zero no Tsukaima.
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Yet at the same time he has just enough self awareness and intelligence to make himself stand out as his own character instead of a loyal dog. I loved his reason for having Togame stand behind him, to name one instance.
Yeah that I agree with.....it's a good aspect of Shichika
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Gyafun!!
That one is no good.
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Feb 10, 2010 6:24 AM

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'-shock- ...is how I figure I should react, but what's the problem, exactly?'
'...my tongue slipped.' XD That was so cute.

I don't know, I don't mind all the talking xP For action I have FMA. This, I have for Shichika and his simple mind x) (Yes, I'm really starting to like him.)
Also, new ED? You mean, every episode will have a different ED? Cool (:
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Feb 10, 2010 7:34 AM

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/cry The coolest one in this episode died. We shall see if later adversaries match his coolness.
Feb 10, 2010 7:40 AM
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Pretty amazing....

LOL at Togame's hair training with Shichika....

Cheerio~
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Feb 10, 2010 9:13 AM

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LOL at Togame's hair training with Shichika....
I though it was more sensual than funny...

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Feb 10, 2010 12:09 PM
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I also liked the "I figured out a new strategy... lets retreat and he will bleed to death" part :D
Feb 10, 2010 12:22 PM

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yorar said:
The best part when he is siting covered in her hair, and he is trying to remember her smell. In that scene they are looking almost like a good couple. :P
it's just training :3
Feb 10, 2010 12:27 PM

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I just discovered it is written by the same guy who made Bakemonogatari.

Suddenly it's much better!
Feb 10, 2010 12:50 PM

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look at that arm xD ouch

my paint skills are bad but ouch xD



francis, is this gif-able?
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Feb 10, 2010 1:08 PM

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This is definitely going to be the best anime of the season, maybe of 2010.
Love the characters, the talking is done really well, and doesnt bore me, animation is a fresh whiff of wind, I love the story, and there is plenty of good humor.

Cheerio!
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Feb 10, 2010 1:37 PM

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2nd episode was better than the first one, but I still wish the fight had been better than what it was. Also WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS CHEERIO

Durarara!! still the best show this season.
Feb 10, 2010 5:42 PM

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The fight was really good and I liked this episode better than the first one :D

So does this anime get aired every month?
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Feb 10, 2010 5:51 PM

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The fight was really good and I liked this episode better than the first one :D

So does this anime get aired every month?

Yes every month but it's 1 hour long.

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Feb 10, 2010 6:42 PM

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blan blah blah blah...

theres a lot of talk in this episode... >_<
Feb 10, 2010 7:35 PM

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I enjoyed this episode soooooo much more than the first. I'm likin' this series now. :P
People need to stop complaining about all the talking. Like someone else said, if you want more action and less talking, watch some shitty shounen series. NOW, some of the dialogue is a tad bit on the boring side, but still fun and enjoyable.
Feb 10, 2010 7:36 PM
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I enjoyed this episode, but there's still too much talking. I'm not against lots of dialogue, but it gets a little tiring when it takes up the vast majority of the hour.

Quentin Tarantino can make scenes of just dialogue fantastically riveting.. Katanagatari's dialogue is just mildly amusing. Maybe if I was Japanese, I'd enjoy it more, but even then.. At least Bakemonogatari peppered up the monotony of its dialogue with the jump cuts, odd angles, and cutaways.

Still pretty good though. The fight was cool, and I do enjoy seeing Togame and Shichika interact.
Feb 10, 2010 11:24 PM

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DukeofFunk said:
I enjoyed this episode, but there's still too much talking. I'm not against lots of dialogue, but it gets a little tiring when it takes up the vast majority of the hour.
I agree on the stupid talking of catchphrase like I said before especially in the dessert of all things.

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Feb 11, 2010 1:06 AM

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I concur. It is not the amount of dialogue, but what is being said that causes the fatigue. You can seriously just tune out listen to the anime, and just watch something else for the first 25 min or so...and the "fallen for you" tripe is becoming a shallow plot device...we get it: they're gonna protect/grind on each other. Find something else to progress with the inside story...

I'd hate to say this, but this one is walking a fine line between interesting and repulsive.
Feb 11, 2010 1:28 AM
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wahh so much dialogue. I'm not complaining, it's just not what I'm use to.

I want more romance :3
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Feb 11, 2010 10:38 AM

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Holy carp! That's a pretty damn quick boat xD Or if not, at least Shichika is awesome when it comes to rowing, and fighting da powah ヽ(´ー`)ノ
Anyway, the art is still pretty interesting ヽ(´Д`ヽ)
"A lady's fashion sense." Right, because that sense was obviously not present when she got her outfit ┐(-。ー')┌ But I guess she's cute anyway ◕ ◡ ◕
Not to mention Shichika's new outfit ..! He does seem to have some kind of fetish for exposing his chest ┐('~`;)┌
Ah btw! Shichika's awesome, in case anyone didn't notice! ヽ(´Д`ヽ)
Interesting guy actually, a weird, but no doubt effective, way for an uncivilized young man to learn how to recognize a human (っ´Д`)っ
OH GOD it's over 9000 in annoyingness reading what this Shirasagi guy says ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
Down upside is face his why and nickname the explain might it though.
Even don't I this is what ٩(๏_๏)۶
Die he did?
Anyway... Funny how the desert apparantly spread out from the sea, and not until it reached the sea... More reversing (‐^▽^‐)
Maniwani~ ( ¯‿¯)
Mendou~ ( ¯‿¯)
Cheerio~ ( ¯‿¯)
Yep, I'm having quite some fun ( ¯‿¯)
However, by that time you'll have been torn into pieces.
Cheerio~ ( ¯‿¯)
Oh I just can't seem to stop ┐(-。ー')┌
And Shichika has no common sense at all, I mean.. Even I know well enough that you don't call a lady heavy ( ◔ ◔)
This Uneri guy's got a nice attitude btw ( ゚ ー ゚)
And so she steps right into his range, eh? Luckily for Togame, Shichika was there ツ
Yeah, right, faster than light, sure... Then that sword would dissolve (¬_¬) Oh right, I shouldn't try to apply physics to anime ( ´∀`)
Gyafun~

Tl;dr this is probably one of the better shows of the season tbh ( ̄ー ̄)
And also, I find it funny that they call it the "Owari" Shogunate (=´∇`=)
Lastly.. What's up with Togame's eye anyway? щ(゚Д゚щ)
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Feb 12, 2010 2:35 AM
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i thought this will be like samurai x trust and betrayal with a lot of sword fights but instead there is too much talking i think its a mediocre anime
Feb 12, 2010 3:33 AM

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ios said:
i thought this will be like samurai x trust and betrayal with a lot of sword fights but instead there is too much talking i think its a mediocre anime


Unfortunately I can't help but agree with everyone else about how the dialog either didn't translate well into English or just isn't engaging at all. While there were a few redeeming qualities in this episode already mentioned, like the scene in the beginning with the hair, but it didn't go far enough in my opinnion. The development at this point is very shallow. The characters are still very static, and the discussion in the desert about his catchphrase was indeed lame. No one else here has mentioned yet that this guy...



Really reminds me of Byakuya Kuchiki from Bleach.

This show seems to be missing the edginess that Bakemonogatari had. I really enjoyed the first episode and thought that it had a lot of potential. After this episode I'm starting to agree with some of the original criticisms. Episode two did seem like it was a show made for Saturday mornings on the WB. Who knows maybe someday it will be a fit like Yu-gi-Oh!. I Still can't completely dislike this series yet, but if things stay as is, I might have to leave this one for the 13 and under crowd.
Feb 12, 2010 4:24 PM

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REEEALLY good episode,2th best of the season. ^^
Feb 12, 2010 4:50 PM

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If I wanted to read a novel, I'd open a book.
Feb 13, 2010 12:53 AM

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I'm not sure if this ep was worth the five hour download. :/
Feb 13, 2010 2:11 AM

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Plenty of dialogue is good and all but.... the dialogue in this makes it so much worse than it could be. It is just lame and drags on about really stupid things. Apart from the pointless dialogue I am enjoying the plot (even though it isn't anything special) and the fights seem like they will be good despite all the monologues. I guess they suit the kind of era this is based in though.

I am enjoying this but it could be so much better IMO. Togame is too annoying...
Feb 13, 2010 5:52 AM
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I love this ! Gyafun ! It's interesting and sorta unique with the art and story.Although there is much dialogue ,I feel that it doesn't waste anything of the story and that it actually helps the story and characters develop .And it's entertaining too , funny.Like it
Feb 13, 2010 12:11 PM

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kisami said:
...the part where he offered her to be cut in half was just to amusing.
I couldn't help laughing at that part either. Just love the dead pan humour in this show, VAs are doing a great job. Though like the physical humour too, didn't see Togame's face as a kick off wall coming. Love this couple :P
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cheerio! rofl
so they got another sword - the sharpest blade, the dude used his own blood to cut down on friction, thats badass
Agreed! ^^
Feb 14, 2010 4:56 AM

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As much as I love dialogue-centered shows, this gets stale at some point. They really should add more fights or at least lengthen the fights so they're not that anti-climactic.
Shichika's becoming a lot more likable and I loved the meta-humor and general weirdness, but it's not quite enough for a 50 min. episode. Still has plenty of potential, though.
Feb 14, 2010 11:01 AM
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So I guess one Maniwani head will appear in each episode and get killed by someone every time. All 12 of them are probably total weirdos. I guess they will be something like Team Rocked in Pokemons.

Anyway, this was a nice and enjoyable episode.
Feb 14, 2010 7:08 PM

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CardboardO-San said:
I'm not sure if this ep was worth the five hour download. :/
lol I got it in 10min =P Anyway...
I really liked this episode. The duck ninja was...interesting and there were several funny moments. I didn't get bored at all while watching this ep but that may be because I am easily amused ^-^
Wouldn't call this the best of the season but it is up there, DEFINITELY above Sora no Woto.
Feb 14, 2010 10:46 PM

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Ronin guy is pretty cool.

I like Togame's way of fighting, tactical retreat, let's let him bleed to death. xD
Feb 15, 2010 12:14 AM

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First of all, am I the only one that still feels that as far as colorful design and plot that it reminds me of the Muramasa video game? I'm suprised not a lot of people say that about this show, which is what I like about it.

Second of all, ........am I the only one who is fucking baffled that the 2 main characters spent 10 minutes talking in the desert about how to make the "report" sound as entertaining as possible?! I mean... they sat walked in the sand... just talking... throughout the day... where there is no water in sight... and thus there mouths should've been dehydrated... and yet somehow they weren't. And not only that, ...but it's sort of the strategist's fault that even happened because she was so bent on how to make her report sound interesting. I thought strategists were suppose to be... well... strategic. I know the desert itself didn't seem all that hot, ...but still, I mean come on!

And also, is it really necessary for Togame to use a term like "cheerio" in every other one of her sentences? It's one thing girls in anime nowdays habitually use unexplainable terms/sounds in their sentences, but does Togame have to be so self-conscious about using it? In fact, what girl in real life actually says a certain term in much of her sentences in real life?
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Shichika and Togame's relationship sure is something. Probably one of the better couples this season and totally outclasses shit like lolzBundlovetriangle. Shichika is an enjoyable main character devoid of many of the generic main character tropes we see in every anime out there recently and Togame is a refreshing quirky female lead. The hair training is pretty amusing and I wonder what strange things those two will come up with next.
Feb 15, 2010 7:07 AM

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am I the only one who is fucking baffled that the 2 main characters spent 10 minutes talking in the desert about how to make the "report" sound as entertaining as possible?! I mean... they sat walked in the sand... just talking... throughout the day... where there is no water in sight... and thus there mouths should've been dehydrated... and yet somehow they weren't. And not only that, ...but it's sort of the strategist's fault that even happened because she was so bent on how to make her report sound interesting. I thought strategists were suppose to be... well... strategic. I know the desert itself didn't seem all that hot, ...but still, I mean come on!

And also, is it really necessary for Togame to use a term like "cheerio" in every other one of her sentences? It's one thing girls in anime nowdays habitually use unexplainable terms/sounds in their sentences, but does Togame have to be so self-conscious about using it? In fact, what girl in real life actually says a certain term in much of her sentences in real life?
Has it never occured to you that applying reality to anime isn't such a good idea? : o
I realized that only a few days ago, I wonder in what show that was.. Oh well, there was somewhere that I tried applying some physical laws to explain something.. But that failed miserably and I realized that reality + anime just doesn't fit together xD

And btw, yeah I actually know a girl who behaves kind of like Togame, when it comes to using a so-called catchphrase, all the god damn time. Sure gets annoying after a while, trust me.
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Feb 15, 2010 7:49 AM

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I really loved this episode like the first one ...
I don't know why ...
It's just so good.
Feb 15, 2010 9:00 AM

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The best part of the episode for me must be the flaw in Ginkaku's drawing sword that he can't draw up straight. I was like why no body has ever thought about that. That was just awesome and weird at the same time.

Wasabi said:
Shichika and Togame's relationship sure is something. Probably one of the better couples this season and totally outclasses shit like lolzBundlovetriangle. Shichika is an enjoyable main character devoid of many of the generic main character tropes we see in every anime out there recently and Togame is a refreshing quirky female lead.
I will take it that you haven't seen Chu-Bra!!.


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Feb 15, 2010 3:58 PM

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Hypeathon said:
am I the only one who is fucking baffled that the 2 main characters spent 10 minutes talking in the desert about how to make the "report" sound as entertaining as possible?! I mean... they sat walked in the sand... just talking... throughout the day... where there is no water in sight... and thus there mouths should've been dehydrated... and yet somehow they weren't. And not only that, ...but it's sort of the strategist's fault that even happened because she was so bent on how to make her report sound interesting. I thought strategists were suppose to be... well... strategic. I know the desert itself didn't seem all that hot, ...but still, I mean come on!
Has it never occured to you that applying reality to anime isn't such a good idea? : o

Uh, fuck no?! If I watched an anime the first time around in which stuff that made no sense occured, I would think "cool, the stuff in this show makes no sense!!" But after the next couple of times of watching this anime, you then realize, "UGH, the shit in this show makes no fucking sense!!"
Feb 15, 2010 7:24 PM

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The final battle between the two was by far the highpoint of the episode. Not to say that the dialogue and interaction between Shichika and Togame was bad as they were quite good...though the talk time did get to be excessive at times. If they tighten that aspect up, it would make the show that much better.
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You can feel the relation to Bakemonogatari in the amount of dialogue, but... it just doesn't work as well for me. Bakemonogatari also had points where I felt the talking dragged, but there was something unique and enthralling about it that I'm not feeling in Katanagatari. That's not to say it never entertained me, and it certainly worked better than the ninja's endless exposition in the first episode. Still, I'm not at all impressed.
Feb 16, 2010 1:46 PM

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Find something else to progress with the inside story...



So you're going to overlook the fact that he likes her because he knows her biggest secret, ambition, she likes to have a plan for everything, etc. as reasons for his liking her? You're also going to overlook that she dropped her anger after talking about having used her face as a wall because she realized that he did, in fact, have a plan as not progressing their relationship inside the story?

That doesn't really make sense to me. Because much more than the first episode, this one managed to do what many shows fail at: be self-referential without breaking the 4th wall, while progressing the story and characters.

Disagree if you want about the conversation over the report and the catchphrases being too long, but it's easily the most insightful look at how a the anime industry is going without directly engaging the audience in a slapstick-y way. Togame directly addressed the thought that Shichika is a pretty weak character. By doing so, though, the audience is quick to say "well, he's not that bad" and start thinking about what makes him strong, and certainly the way he engages Togame is proof in his strength as a character. Despite being as dumb as he is, he's still able to keep up with the conversation and be totally funny in his own right (poking fun at her lame catch-phrases)

It's this kind of well-written dialogue that I had hoped would happen after the exposition-heavy premier.

Despite the terrible conceit of these unbeatable weapons and the unbeatable Shichika, the show still manages to be entertaining precisely because of the dialogue and character interactions. There really isn't anything to gush over in the animation department, because the show is very static. We see more flashes of pictures than fluid animation, and in this episode, we didn't really see anything since the sword moves faster than the speed of light.

I loved the episode because it kept me engaged for 40 minutes when most shows can't keep my attention for half that amount of time.
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Too much boring talk in the middle. WAY too much. Changed my score of the show to 7 just for that.
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Gyafun! what an adorable couple they're turning out to be, and using her hair as a scarf? genius! :D

we have some Tsundere moments in the very near future im sure!

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i like this anime. what's with togame's eye? did i miss something?
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noteDhero said:
um_esper said:
Find something else to progress with the inside story...



So you're going to overlook the fact that he likes her because he knows her biggest secret, ambition, she likes to have a plan for everything, etc. as reasons for his liking her? You're also going to overlook that she dropped her anger after talking about having used her face as a wall because she realized that he did, in fact, have a plan as not progressing their relationship inside the story?

That doesn't really make sense to me. Because much more than the first episode, this one managed to do what many shows fail at: be self-referential without breaking the 4th wall, while progressing the story and characters.

Disagree if you want about the conversation over the report and the catchphrases being too long, but it's easily the most insightful look at how a the anime industry is going without directly engaging the audience in a slapstick-y way. Togame directly addressed the thought that Shichika is a pretty weak character. By doing so, though, the audience is quick to say "well, he's not that bad" and start thinking about what makes him strong, and certainly the way he engages Togame is proof in his strength as a character. Despite being as dumb as he is, he's still able to keep up with the conversation and be totally funny in his own right (poking fun at her lame catch-phrases)

It's this kind of well-written dialogue that I had hoped would happen after the exposition-heavy premier.

Despite the terrible conceit of these unbeatable weapons and the unbeatable Shichika, the show still manages to be entertaining precisely because of the dialogue and character interactions. There really isn't anything to gush over in the animation department, because the show is very static. We see more flashes of pictures than fluid animation, and in this episode, we didn't really see anything since the sword moves faster than the speed of light.

I loved the episode because it kept me engaged for 40 minutes when most shows can't keep my attention for half that amount of time.


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gerb234 said:
i like this anime. what's with togame's eye? did i miss something?

They haven't explained that yet.
maikun said:
Gyafun!!


More Action, Less Talking please =

That won't be happening any time soon. This is not an action anime, if you want that, you will have to watch something else ^^

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If you want more action and less talking, watch One Piece, Naruto, Bleach or any other shounen-fight series. Katanagatari is fine as it is.

Seconded. Katanagatari is fine as it is.

Great anime, too bad it will take almost an year to get it finished.
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i liked it the fight felt a bit rushed, but good overall.
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