Orange Episode 6 Discussion

thebrentinator24 said:
Hagita was a damn savage in this episode, trolling Ueda. Fuck her, I seriously thought she would stop showing up after she and Kakeru broke up but unfortunately, I was very wrong. I liked the chemistry between Naho and Kakeru in this episode, they really felt like an actual couple even though they aren't official yet. Suwa also got a letter from his future self, I'm assuming, so that explains why he's been so willing to help Kakeru and Naho get closer even if it means jeopardizing his own future happiness. Once again, he proves that he's the best character. Also, I have to agree with @animefan8800 that it makes no sense that future Naho didn't mention Kakeru's suicide in the letter until after it happened. Especially since Naho hasn't been reading ahead so if she didn't decide to do that in this episode, she wouldn't have known and the suicide probably would have happened again. Maybe future Naho just assumed that her present self would have read ahead and that's why she didn't mention it as soon as possible. Either that, or maybe she figured that she wouldn't have to mention it right away because if Naho can make Kakeru happy, it wouldn't happen anyway.

animefan8800 said:


It depends on who sent it. If Future Suwa, then why? He feels inferior to Kakeru and bad for Naho being stuck with him? That would make me feel even worse for the character I feel most awful for already. Like I said, these implications are...troubling. But we need more information.

Also keep in mind Present Suwa still loves Naho and is still willing to abandon himself for her. He deserves some credit even if this letter is guiding him. He coulda thrown it in the trash after all.

animefan8800 said:


I meant Kakeru's mother's suicide actually. She(Future Naho) just tells Naho not to invite Kakeru but not the reason why...because? She certainly mentions the mom's suicide later on when you'd think she wouldn't need to if Naho never invited him and he went home on time, thus preventing the mom's suicide and by proxy his suicide right then and there. It just...seems like a glaring plot hole.

Epir said:
This was probably my favourite episode so far, never even though of the other guys getting letters from their future selves too, this show might just surpass Relife as my favourite anime of this season

Cejara said:
I think they are all stuck on this idea that Naho and Kakeru getting together is going to magically make him not want to kill himself because he is in love. Depression does not work this way at all. Depressed people that love others still kill themselves. Depressed people that have everything they could possibly need in the world kill themselves. Sometimes even years of therapy doesn't help depression, suicide ideation, and greaving (I know this since I am a mental health counselor). As I have said before, all this is creating a toxic relationship between Naho and Kakeru lol.

Either way, when they mentioned about Kakeru killing himself in the future, it seems like Naho is so overly invested in this dead guy who has been gone for 10 years that Suwa and her kid is still 2nd place in that timeline. I feel like the ulterior motive behind this was because Naho loved Kakeru and wanted to be together with him and everyone bought the ticket for that under a false pretense of lets save him.

Suwa definitely deserves better than Naho. Let Kakeru and Naho have there toxic relationship where Kakeru will still kill himself anyways because being in a relationship doesn't solve psychological issues -_-.

witchhuntress said:



Yes, it appears that Future Naho is hung up with Kakeru who died. Is Suwa and her child 2nd priority to her? Maybe, maybe not. We're not shown how they came together yet. Is it really Kakeru's death? Or is it something else Naho realized? Who are we to judge so easily and conclusively when the future scenes only showed the events of ONE DAY when the group of friends hung out together and visited Kakeru's grandma and grave(?)? We need more info regarding the future besides what we assume from what's given or showed to us right now.

Nitralon said:
Awwwww, The pool scene was so sweet. I was Shouting suwa to kiss her, but he is a little pussy for my taste.

Suwa have a letter to? i just can't think why Future Suwa would send a letter asking him to let Naho be with Kakeru, Knowing that he CAN be with Naho if he doesnt do anything. Best. Bro. Ever. Alive

MexicanNinja212 said:


That's just the thing though, after one day ten years later they all have a sudden rembeernce of Kakeru and learn his accidental death may have been suicide and they all feel remorse. That's to be expected, but the second that letters to the past are sent they essentially are destroying themselves (future selves redoing the past) in hopes that they manage to keep Kakeru around, who is a person they've known for literally several months. I don't understand their motive to want to erase the people they are going to become (alt universe future selves but they still change aspects of themselves) all in the sake of saving that one classmate 10 years ago. Using friendship as the motive is ludicrous because they've known each other for such a short time. Therefore one has to assume that Naho dos it because she was hung up on Kakeru and essentially deemed her alternate future self would be better suited if Kakeru were around. Meaning she threw her child and Suwa to the side for Kakeru.

witchhuntress said:


It's morally wrong to us, but to this circle of friends it's not. Because it's all in their self-interest, and that's the only regret that lingered so much in the ten years that came. They didn't think further of the consequences of their actions probably, if the rest also sent letters. Or they tried not to think more about it. Is the motive we all assume enough to justify saving Kakeru? To us, it won't because he doesn't "deserve" it. But to these people, they think he does deserve a future.

As to them meeting up one day, they most likely decided it in advance. They planned to dig up their time capsules and visit Kakeru.

Ratchetdude231 said:
The story is probably going to change a lot now since more than 1 person got the letter.

I just seriously hope the ending to this show isn't "hey look we have multiple timelines".

MexicanNinja212 said:


I agree. The show has good premise and I am enjoying it, but its coming to a fork in the road where one side is enjoying it because they're is closure in the story , and the other is an open ending so that its a "happy ending" for all the characters in both alt present and future. Which feels like as slap across the face to me as a viewer. Not because alternate time lines is stupid, but because they're is a lack in explanation of how it works (aside from brief time travel mumbo jumbo in an earlier episode) up to this point in the story.

MexicanNinja212 said:


I kept earlier quotes to indicate the absence of me having to mention that they're meetup wasn't random, just the sudden flooding of feelings they all had. While friendship cannot be defined by length of time, I believe (at least as of now) that it points to Naho (and possibly the others) doing this out of remorse. Now while one could argue remorse for losing a friend for everyone, I just don't see that being Nahos's reason for the letter. If we can infer from present Naho's actions we would see she genuinely likes Kakeru. In this episode she pretty much tells Kakeru that she will choose him over Suwa (poor Suwa) during the pool scene. Therefore leading the audience to believe that (future) Naho abandoned Suwa and their child for (alt past) Naho to have a shot with Kakeru.

In no way am I saying that the others didn't do it out of friendship, I simply believe with the content so far that Naho sent the letter because she had feelings for Kakeru and she simply never acted on them. She feels regret from loss of possible love interest, but the others feel guilt over letting a friend commit "suicide" (show say's he did, but Idk if its gonna be one of those gotcha moments).