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| Yeah, the final episode for this arc is the upcoming one, can't wait for that.. |
ValeBreck said: It is a low-budget episode. That's just how things are. But it was still fantastic, and I was glad to hear the OST that everyone thought they'd be hearing at the "..Komugi..?" scene.I thought this was going to be a low budget episode, but it was absolutely magnificent The OST was great too. |
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| Magnificent! What a fantastic episode. |
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| Wow, I really liked the ending to this episode! Waiting another week is torture! |
| Amazing episode. This was such an insightful episode, the emotions and themes that were being portrayed in particular scenes were really good. Meruem is a honest and merciful being at times, he forgave Pouf for hiding such an important secret. I feel sorry for Welfin, he literally aged a hundred years in Meruem's sinister aura. |
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| Awesome episode |
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| I cant find the words. Hunter x Hunter 2011's Ant arc was just epic. I cant imagine how an anime can surpass this in both the execution and content. The overall quality of the airing anime will drop drastically after the next last episode. 5/5 I hope they resume it soon. |
| Everybody has the right to have his own opinion on something.And you do have the right to disagree with them.But that doesnt give you the right to impose your opinion on others, even though you do have the right to think you are fucking awesome. |
| I'm just glad Madhouse finally used the original "Death Agony" OST. |
Vanser said: Just watched the episode again, this time with subs and realized at the end that Meruem says to Welfin, "I hope you you find him... And if possible, I hope you can live as a human." In the manga it was, "I wish I could meet with that person.. and if possible it would be nice to live as a human." The manga translation makes way more sense because Pouf begins to cry after he hears that. Don't know why Pouf would cry just because he would say those words to Welfin. Can anyone say which translation is the correct one? That's most likely a mistranslation. Don't rely too heavily on scanlations. |
| So much tension. Poor Welfin. |
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| some people are going to hate me but I have to say this: Meruem you are one of the best villains perhaps the best villain on any shonen. Meruem is the example of character development not the idiots: Obito, Aizen, shichibukais. |
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
| I'm so happy Madhouse animated those first five minutes <3 |
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cronosteso23 said: some people are going to hate me but I have to say this: Meruem you are one of the best villains perhaps the best villain on any shonen. Meruem is the example of character development not the idiots: Obito, Aizen, shichibukais. I think Obito and Aizen (especially Aizen) were good villains but you can't compare them to Meruem. Meruem is just on another godly level. |
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| Nice episode, Watching it reminds me what makes HxH so good: The inner struggle characters have. Thinking about the next step and fearing the opponent who is just as overwhelming as Meruem. Though he got an amazing development I still cant forgive him for killing children. On the other hand I was happy he killed this dictator. The opening scene just showed how stupid human are. We slaughter each other on command of a few greedy bastards or for our own fortune while others have to suffer. The fortune of the rich is built on the poverty of the helpless. |
LastIllusion said: I still cant forgive him for killing children. He wouldn't do it now. Look at it that way. He even shown regret in killing children earlier in the Anime. |
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| HXH is awesome: Hisoka, Chrollo, Meruem, Illumi. The next arc: Pariston (reminds me Kumagawa) Future Arc: GYRO?????? |
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
| It probably has something to do with me reading these chapters like a week or so ago, but I find myself kind of preferring the manga version of this sequence. Still, the moment of revelation of that "one word" was amazingly well done. Beautiful music, beautiful imagery. God damn. And, yeah, obviously I too think Meruem is something special. As great as the CA arc is, I don't think it would be anywhere near as good without him at the center of it. Which, I suppose, is obvious but I felt like saying it anyway. Next episode should be amazing, a lot of great moments. I'm kind of worried if they can pack it into one episode. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Did anyone else find the preview hilarious? |
blooddrunkJun 17, 2014 2:51 PM
cronosteso23 said: some people are going to hate me but I have to say this: Meruem you are one of the best villains perhaps the best villain on any shonen. Meruem is the example of character development not the idiots: Obito, Aizen, shichibukais. i dont think anyone would hate u for that especially in a hxh thread and besides saying that meruem is a better villian than those is almost an objective fact. i consider meruem to be the best developed shounen villian since vegeta the exectution of his moral ambiguity is really astounding. |
| The way they capture emotions, such as Welfin being within an inch of his life was fantastic. loved the opening, even though it was sad yet a realistic capture of corrupt society. Have a feeling pouf is gonna drop dead any moment, he's annoying me but has made the story so good. |
| Finally! The monologue! They animated it. ^_^ But what the hell, Madhouse?! >_> It should be Palm! >_< |
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| Oh man I can not believe what I am watching. Seriously this development and execution is sooo good... I liked this episode so much!!! The psychological "warfairs" are incredile and the emotions of each of those characters are so well thought out. The Kings words at the end to Welfin ad his development is so amazing. "I hope you find him and you can live as a human" ???!!! HOLY SHIT Also the last words of the narrator DAMN!!! Meruem is becoming something incredible!!! I felt sad i this episode. Such a good episode, I actually didn't think that I would witness awesomness again after 126,131 episodes... |
vedatsvetJun 17, 2014 3:01 PM
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LastIllusion said: Though he got an amazing development I still cant forgive him for killing children. On the other hand I was happy he killed this dictator. The opening scene just showed how stupid human are. We slaughter each other on command of a few greedy bastards or for our own fortune while others have to suffer. The fortune of the rich is built on the poverty of the helpless. i don't see how you can hate meruem for killing children its purely a function of his nature rather than a display of malice or evil the same thing that led him to kill the dictator is what made him kill those kids. if anything i think he should just be viewed as dangerous and a global issue rather than a "bad guy" which is pretty much how netero viewed it and in stark contrast of gon's perception of the ants. |
jdbe said: The way they capture emotions, such as Welfin being within an inch of his life was fantastic. loved the opening, even though it was sad yet a realistic capture of corrupt society. Have a feeling pouf is gonna drop dead any moment, he's annoying me but has made the story so good. that opening scene's timing with the real world is amazing Today, brazil is playing in the world cup full of people wealthy enough to buy seats to the game, while miles away there are people dying of starvation and disease. |
| Nice episode. I agree it should have been Palm talking at the beginning and not the narator. Now there is gonna be about 2 episodes of wrap up and the next arc shall start. :) |
| Das Feenreich! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUvxzKt5GoM |
blooddrunk said: Did anyone else find the preview hilarious? The ''Huh, me?!'' from Gon made me chuckle haha. |
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| He said it! |
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| great eps. best part has to be when welfin say komugi. meruem was super badas. also i loved seeing pouf cry like a bitch. welfin looks like a sweaty ball sack http://www.portallos.com.br/arquivo/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/h011.jpg |
| So sad: http://i.imgur.com/YilIxfB.jpg |
jimjameswhatever said: jdbe said: The way they capture emotions, such as Welfin being within an inch of his life was fantastic. loved the opening, even though it was sad yet a realistic capture of corrupt society. Have a feeling pouf is gonna drop dead any moment, he's annoying me but has made the story so good. that opening scene's timing with the real world is amazing Today, brazil is playing in the world cup full of people wealthy enough to buy seats to the game, while miles away there are people dying of starvation and disease. That opening scene is perfect for one moment I thought Madhouse wouldnt show it |
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
| Interested to see what the Gyro business is going to play out to. All in all, it went just as expected. The Rose did in fact have toxins (albeit late acting ones). Welfin lost his hair like Knov (truly terrifying power for anyone who just spent a ton of money on hair products), and sent his message. Now the King will probably weasel out a few moments with Komugi to express his feelings and we can wrap everything up before they kick the bucket. Ha! And Welfin thought he could be king. I guess the whole Gyro moment was just a fleeting fancy, and he was headed in the wrong direction to implement that anyway. Now in retrospect, I wonder how the differentiation between the ants who remembered their pasts and those who didn't played out. It's not like conviction had any big part to play in that. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Oh hey a Vietnam War reference http://i.imgur.com/RZxamU5.jpg |
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cronosteso23 said: some people are going to hate me but I have to say this: Meruem you are one of the best villains perhaps the best villain on any shonen. Meruem is the example of character development not the idiots: Obito, Aizen, shichibukais. i think you have to put a jojo villian in there |
Humza_96 said: cronosteso23 said: some people are going to hate me but I have to say this: Meruem you are one of the best villains perhaps the best villain on any shonen. Meruem is the example of character development not the idiots: Obito, Aizen, shichibukais. The Schichibukais aren't really meant to be 'villains', Or the main enemy of Luffy. I wouldn't really expect much character development from someone like Crocodile who already has everything worked out (in terms of opinions/ideals) after going trough a lot as a pirate. But yeah Obito and Aizen are just lame. Cell was an awesome villain are you being sarcastic?? yeah men Oda Should Learn to write as Togashi does. |
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
Humza_96 said: cronosteso23 said: some people are going to hate me but I have to say this: Meruem you are one of the best villains perhaps the best villain on any shonen. Meruem is the example of character development not the idiots: Obito, Aizen, shichibukais. The Schichibukais aren't really meant to be 'villains', Or the main enemy of Luffy. I wouldn't really expect much character development from someone like Crocodile who already has everything worked out (in terms of opinions/ideals) after going trough a lot as a pirate. But yeah Obito and Aizen are just lame. Cell was an awesome villain Don't bother with this here. It will get you nowhere. Surprisingly, some simple things go over the heads of those who claim sophistication. A HxH thread is not the place to discuss that. Carry it over to the General Shounen thread. |
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| Greatness personified, this episode was. I can't even imagine how powerful the end to this arc will be. Truth was the overriding theme this episode. I lost track of how many times it along with "lies" was mentioned throughout. It's beautifully poetic because this episode served as the climax and and end of the character arc of two Ants: Pouf and Welfin. The three-way confrontation that occurred here was put together deliberately. We have Pouf and Welfin, two characters that achieved their objectives primarily through lies, deceit, and manipulation. They are both put in a situation where they can't lie. The King's enhanced abilities allow him to read anyone before him like an open book. Pouf and Welfin's tactics are rendered utterly useless. How do they react? By resorting to the truth, of course. Pouf says it himself; he'll get what he wants by telling the truth. Welfin tells the truth as well. He doesn't lie, doesn't run away, but instead screams his true feelings, that he will never accept Meruem as King, that his only king is Gyro. Both speak the truth, and in the end, it saved their lives far more effectively than lying would have. Welfin already had a great character moment back with Ikalgo, and it is continued here. More interesting than that, though, is the episode's, and indeed the Chimera Ant arc as well, paradoxical message. It opened with a montage of human cruelty, condemning the species as a whole, and emphasizing in particular how some of us live in great prosperity while willingly allowing other helpless people to starve and die in poverty. This is a direct callback to the specific point that the King mentioned when he spoke with Netero before their battle: that people living a wealthy lifestyle on one side of the border allow death and misery to reign on the other side. And of course, this is all valid. History shows us that human cruelty knows no bounds. Yet, the end of this episode, where the King wishes Welfin a happy life as a human, and where the narrator implies that the King has officially shed his malicious side, suggests that to possess humanity is a good thing. That's why this arc's message is not so cut-and-dried. Togashi is not saying that humanity is evil, the Ants were angels, end of story. This is a complex, ambiguous mesh of themes and characters, and the overall message is, in my opinion, more balanced. Yes, humanity is capable of unrivaled brutality and evil, but it also possesses good qualities. All this has been implied throughout the arc, but never as blatantly and sharply as this episode. Acquiring human emotions was both the rise and fall of the Chimera Ants, as it is for humanity itself. And people like the King and Komugi are examples of the goodness humanity is capable of. The world is miserable, but it's not beyond hope. Human nature is not inherently evil. Humans can be good and bad; it seems Togashi thinks that we simply opt to be evil when we have the choice not to. Of course, all of this is even more complex and nuanced than that. Perhaps by virtue of human nature, we end up becoming monsters anyways. Look to Gon's story for an example of this; a little boy forced to grow up and become a heinous beast out of a very human desire to avenge someone dear to him. Yet, that core humanity is really what resulted in Gon becoming so inhumane throughout the invasion. This arc can be looked at with a much more cynical, and indeed more Togashi-like perspective: we are often monsters, and ironically it is our humanity that leads to that. There can be more than one interpretation, which is what makes it so fascinating. Regardless, Togashi's overall point is abundantly clear: by contrasting us with the Ants, it becomes clear that we are more monstrous than they'll ever be. Our inhumanity is what killed the King, with his new found humanity, didn't it? (Yes, he's not dead so far, but he's sure to fall behind his Royal Guards due to the radiation.) Interesting bit; we saw a human skull show up behind Meruem in this episode, though not in the same malicious context as with Netero. Still, it's fitting, as Meruem , like humanity, has evolved a great deal and has become much more human, now that he remembers Komugi and all she taught him. Again, though, Meruem's transformation is portrayed as positive, despite the skull, which was earlier used to indicate the evil of the human race. I think it may have been mentioned, but when as Gon was transforming (or evolving...) in his fight with Pitou, his face looked similar to that. Interesting use of the skull imagery, isn't it? Looking back at the arc as a whole, it's especially brilliant how many facets of the human condition that Togashi explored throughout the arc, both through the humans and Ants. Vengeance (Gon), anger (Youpi and Knuckle), love (Komugi and the King), war (the whole story), loyalty (the Guards), etc. Brilliant, really. Pouf's character arc culminated in this episode, and it's clear in the end that he was a failure. It's rather tragic, that for all his devotion and loyalty, in the end he meant almost nothing to the King. He will die broken, a victim of his intense and passionate emotions. For everything he tried, the bond between Komugi and the King could not be broken. I'm pleased that Welfin lived. I've taken a great liking to him, and would have never have guessed when he was introduced that he'd be key in eliminating the King as a threat, or restoring his memories of Komugi. A clever and unexpected move from Togashi, and the best part is that it all ties in seamlessly with Welfin's character arc. That's not as easy as it looks. And as mentioned before, it's fitting that in the end the truth ultimately saved Welfin's life, symbolically completing his character arc. And for all his lamenting that Ikalgo had threw him off by changing him, it's clear that Welfin is glad he's the way he is now. And finally, the best scene of the episode: The King remembering Komugi. They're my two favorite characters of this arc, so it was a great moments, and it's fitting the arc's end focus on them. Representing Komugi's value to the King by showing him and her alone playing Gungi in a vast, blissful field was fantastic and beautiful. A feeble, blind human girl is what this ferocious, mighty being most values. Love it. I'm not prepared for next week in the least. |
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| Being Pouf is suffering. So who's Gyro? And, if Pouf is poisoned, it means that also Meruem has poison in him? Since he comes from the same site where Netero exploded himself. |
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diivil said: The_Mad_Wizard said: Finally! The monologue! They animated it. ^_^ But what the hell, Madhouse?! >_> It should be Palm! >_< at the end of the last episode she did say it, the exact word the narrator said this ep. That's not enough! I was waiting for that dem thing like a Gon fan waiting for the Pitou fight. :( I feel like I was betrayed. -_- |
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Akanezora said: Being Pouf is suffering. So who's Gyro? And, if Pouf is poisoned, it means that also Meruem has poison in him? Since he comes from the same site where Netero exploded himself. What a genius you are. |
Akanezora said: Being Pouf is suffering. So who's Gyro? And, if Pouf is poisoned, it means that also Meruem has poison in him? Since he comes from the same site where Netero exploded himself. yeah. He had nosebleed too in previous episode. |
WELFIN INTROSPECTION I like this part of the episode 134 |
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R- said: Akanezora said: Being Pouf is suffering. So who's Gyro? And, if Pouf is poisoned, it means that also Meruem has poison in him? Since he comes from the same site where Netero exploded himself. What a genius you are. IKR. |
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| Just an amazing episode, I'm glad they animated the montage, it really makes you think, for example, everyone who got a ticket is enjoying themselves at the World cup in Brazil without a care in the world while a couple of miles away, someone is starving in the slums while to get by in live. This is prime example of why Meruem is my favourite villain of all time, you just don't see character development like that everyday. Although best get tissues next week ladies and gentlemen, you're going to need them. |
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