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Nov 11, 2020 9:54 AM

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Why is the USA so slow when it comes to counting election votes?

In the UK we have lots of people on the floor going through all the votes. We get a result within a day or so.

Over a week and there is still counting to be done in the USA. Even without the asinine Trump tantrum.
Nov 11, 2020 1:15 PM

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UberBat said:
Why is the USA so slow when it comes to counting election votes?

In the UK we have lots of people on the floor going through all the votes. We get a result within a day or so.

Over a week and there is still counting to be done in the USA. Even without the asinine Trump tantrum.
For starters, we're talking about a different population sizes with wildly different institutions and processes. I'd be shocked if voting styles as well as counting were uniform throughout all the world democracies.
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Nov 11, 2020 1:43 PM

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Silverstorm said:
UberBat said:
Why is the USA so slow when it comes to counting election votes?

In the UK we have lots of people on the floor going through all the votes. We get a result within a day or so.

Over a week and there is still counting to be done in the USA. Even without the asinine Trump tantrum.
For starters, we're talking about a different population sizes with wildly different institutions and processes. I'd be shocked if voting styles as well as counting were uniform throughout all the world democracies.


Surely though there should be more then a skeleton crew though doing the counting? I've seen near empty rooms across a number of states.
Nov 11, 2020 2:21 PM

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UberBat said:
Silverstorm said:
For starters, we're talking about a different population sizes with wildly different institutions and processes. I'd be shocked if voting styles as well as counting were uniform throughout all the world democracies.


Surely though there should be more then a skeleton crew though doing the counting? I've seen near empty rooms across a number of states.
I agree, what I said isn't exactly proportional either. Take Nevada and another state of similar size: Nevada is notoriously slow at counting taking more than a day, while a similar sized state can project winners the night-of (SC). It depends on the states but overall its due to Covid right now. Also depends on how that state tried to implements social distancing (not uniform between all of them) and when they're allowed to count (some are allowed to count early, others only on election day) and what type of ballot is being counted (would determine by hand or not and the order of how ballots are counted).

Still isn't as efficient as it could be but that is why they are given up to December to check and submit
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Nov 11, 2020 6:56 PM

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UberBat said:
Silverstorm said:
For starters, we're talking about a different population sizes with wildly different institutions and processes. I'd be shocked if voting styles as well as counting were uniform throughout all the world democracies.


Surely though there should be more then a skeleton crew though doing the counting? I've seen near empty rooms across a number of states.


because america's infamous low turn out rates they are usually low staffed because they haven't had to deal with this many votes before.


@Silverstorm
no
Nevada is slow at counting because it's illegal to count in las vega's (this is a joke due to people get thrown out of las vega's casinos for counting cards for people who don't get the joke.)
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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Nov 12, 2020 3:37 AM

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No I'm saying you can't pretend to favor merit based systems when you arbitrarily disqualify people based on diversity without actually looking into their merits.


When a system of Affirmative Action exists, that is dismantling the meritocracy that Western countries used to have, it becomes difficult to discern which person is hired on merit, and which isn't. When Governmental administrations make a point of hiring people based on diversity, it becomes a lot easier to see which people are hired based on diversity.

Also Trump hired people not based on merit or diversity, but people that funded his campaign, so it is fine to critique Government appointments, since in liberal countries, appointments aren't like to be made based on merit anymore.

lol affirmative actions has nothing to do with it, you are so ingenuous or dishonest. For years and years minorities have been discharged for the color of their skin and names, while nepotism ran rampant. "Based on merit anymore"? It was never based on merit, unless you where white, then you may have had a shot (Assuming some rich asshole didn't want to just hire his nephew)
Nov 12, 2020 3:39 AM

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jennicide said:
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lmao imagine calling an entire continent of first world countries a carcass lmao or bitching about war when america was in that too, it's called WORLD WAR for a reason lmao didn't they teach you in school or American education is really that bad ahah

Tt least our citizen don't have to hold two jobs to buy insulin lmao Oh don't worry, Canada and Japan laugh at you too every time some dumb dude shoots a school because some girls rejected him lol


A world war that Europe started twice?
Yeah, you guys just have to worry about getting decapitated, run over, blown up, stabbed and shot by extremists over there. See I can do that too.

"Europe" isn't a country, and literally every war in the past 80 years has involved America bombing innocent people, you really don't want to go there buddy.
Nov 12, 2020 5:02 AM

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Bernrika said:
RunescapeIsGreat said:


When a system of Affirmative Action exists, that is dismantling the meritocracy that Western countries used to have, it becomes difficult to discern which person is hired on merit, and which isn't. When Governmental administrations make a point of hiring people based on diversity, it becomes a lot easier to see which people are hired based on diversity.

Also Trump hired people not based on merit or diversity, but people that funded his campaign, so it is fine to critique Government appointments, since in liberal countries, appointments aren't like to be made based on merit anymore.

lol affirmative actions has nothing to do with it, you are so ingenuous or dishonest. For years and years minorities have been discharged for the color of their skin and names, while nepotism ran rampant. "Based on merit anymore"? It was never based on merit, unless you where white, then you may have had a shot (Assuming some rich asshole didn't want to just hire his nephew)


"lol affirmative actions has nothing to do with it"

Affirmative Action has everything to do with doubting competency, would you like plane pilots and air traffic controllers to be hired based on diversity? Do you think that would make the air industry better or worse?

"For years and years minorities have been discharged for the color of their skin and names"

No they haven't, even when America was very discriminatory in the mid-19th Century, they were still meritocratic, or even European Empires would have their universities filled with many people from India, China and Africa.

"It was never based on merit, unless you where white, then you may have had a shot (Assuming some rich asshole didn't want to just hire his nephew)"

That is just untrue, the system was very meritocratic, it seems you confusing the fact that America was 85%-90% one group, and because of that, it was mostly people from that group getting the jobs.

For years and years minorities have been discharged for the color of their skin and names, while nepotism ran rampant.


It almost sounds like you are saying Affirmative Action is a punishment for perceived historical wrongs.
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Nov 12, 2020 6:17 AM

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RunescapeIsGreat said:

It almost sounds like you are saying Affirmative Action is a punishment for perceived historical wrongs.

No, I'm saying you are racist and completely out of touch with reality, as proved numerous times by your own posts with your obsession with '60 (A thing many right wings in this forum seem to have, see also the other dude who keep bitching about women not fucking him)
Nov 12, 2020 6:31 AM
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Bernrika said:
RunescapeIsGreat said:

It almost sounds like you are saying Affirmative Action is a punishment for perceived historical wrongs.

No, I'm saying you are racist and completely out of touch with reality, as proved numerous times by your own posts with your obsession with '60 (A thing many right wings in this forum seem to have, see also the other dude who keep bitching about women not fucking him)


dude, you're a woman in your mid 30s and like half your posts are you bitterly complaining about how men are awful and about "bro-dudes" not liking generic yaoi romance manga #129392. You accusing anybody of having issues with the opposite sex is some pretty pot/kettle stuff. All your posts smell like cat pee and loneliness

Nov 12, 2020 7:19 AM

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Bernrika said:
RunescapeIsGreat said:

It almost sounds like you are saying Affirmative Action is a punishment for perceived historical wrongs.

No, I'm saying you are racist and completely out of touch with reality, as proved numerous times by your own posts with your obsession with '60 (A thing many right wings in this forum seem to have, see also the other dude who keep bitching about women not fucking him)


"No, I'm saying you are racist"

Typical leftist hypocrisy, as your comment applies to you since you support Affirmative Action.

"completely out of touch with reality"

My views are common among the working class.

"as proved numerous times by your own posts with your obsession with '60"

I think you are referring to the 60s, and if so, then what is wrong with criticising the fact that the 1960s started a terrible and pathetic world order, that makes life a living hell for so many people.
Nov 13, 2020 7:45 AM

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GA goes to Biden.

Ends up with the same amount of electoral votes as Trump as 2016 with now a 5 million pop vote lead.

Love to see a president elected by the majority of the people.
Nov 13, 2020 6:33 PM

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final electoral count https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-president.html

Biden - 306 (officially wins Arizona and Georgia too)
Trump - 232 (officially wins North Carolina)
Nov 13, 2020 6:52 PM

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HAHAHAHA!

We get to celebrate again with the final tally today!

306 electoral votes...beautiful.

We'll get to celebrate yet AGAIN when Georgia announces that the recount ended up in Biden's favor.

Next, when the Electors make it official!

and finally on January 20th with the ultimate PARTY in DC!
Nov 13, 2020 7:49 PM

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RunescapeIsGreat said:


My views are common among the working class.

The famous working class obsessed with nazi yes.
Nov 13, 2020 7:51 PM

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Hillary_Clinton_ said:
Bernrika said:

No, I'm saying you are racist and completely out of touch with reality, as proved numerous times by your own posts with your obsession with '60 (A thing many right wings in this forum seem to have, see also the other dude who keep bitching about women not fucking him)


dude, you're a woman in your mid 30s and like half your posts are you bitterly complaining about how men are awful and about "bro-dudes" not liking generic yaoi romance manga #129392. You accusing anybody of having issues with the opposite sex is some pretty pot/kettle stuff. All your posts smell like cat pee and loneliness


Oww, someone is bitter. Cope. How was it? "Joe Biden really looks like the typical loser"?
Nov 14, 2020 9:27 AM

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this is like the 3rd time Biden is being declared winner, tired of winning yet?
Nov 14, 2020 11:55 AM

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@RunescapeIsGreat

no your views are not common at all most people are not for freaking ethostatism.

please stop lying through your teeth with that "i'm the only sane one." mentality.

RunescapeIsGreat said:
Bernrika said:

The famous working class obsessed with nazi yes.


Typical leftist calling everyone you disagree with a nazi.


do you want me to pull up that image where you are praising the nazi party in multiple threads from 2016 to 2018 because we still have that list.

you and one other are the only two i have ever call out for nazism because you regularly praise the nazi party for "doing things right."


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hazarddex said:
@RunescapeIsGreat

no your views are not common at all most people are not for freaking ethostatism.

please stop lying through your teeth with that "i'm the only sane one." mentality.



do you want me to pull up that image where you are praising the nazi party in multiple threads from 2016 to 2018 because we still have that list.

you and one other are the only two i have ever call out for nazism because you regularly praise the nazi party for "doing things right."



You must not know much about Europe, as only 20-30 years ago, most states were 99% one ethnic group, and most people still want that to continue.

The Nazis party/Nazi state was terrible. So how about you argue against what I am actually saying, instead of saying buzzwords like "nazi".

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1635422&show=0
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1660352&show=0#post4
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1681946&show=0
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1736255&show=50#post54
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1622554&show=0#post5
argue against what your saying hmmm? (just a few don't want to flood the thread.) oh wow he just edited his post 7 hours ago lmao

no not even Europe is that ethnically the same. you have celts, nordic, germanic, greek, Czechs, turks, Spaniards, etc
GrimAtramentNov 15, 2020 8:31 PM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Nov 14, 2020 1:36 PM

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RunescapeIsGreat said:
hazarddex said:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1635422&show=0
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1660352&show=0#post4
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1681946&show=0
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1736255&show=50#post54
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1622554&show=0#post5
argue against what your saying hmmm?

no not even Europe is that ethnically the same. you have celts, nordic, germanic, greek, Czechs, turks, Spaniards, etc


"most states were 99% one ethnic group"
Can you read my comments properly. I said states, not an entire continent. And after the second world war, central and eastern european states that were to an extent multi-ethnic, had their state borders redrawn, to reflect ethnic borders.


except they are not because you can find people from any of those ethnicity in all European countries due to how much humans mingle with one another.

finding some one who's "100% english" is in fact super rare because they might have Scottish or Ireland blood as well or even welsh ancestry.

so give it a damn rest already with your ethnostatism bs.


if you were to actually take every single dna sample form most people you would find basically everyone minus people like royal family and cousin f***ers are to some degree or another mixed.

Bdin's been hiring so far for his Covid-19 task force

David Kessler, co-chair, former FDA commissioner
Marcella Nunez-Smith, co-chair, Yale associate dean for health equity research
Vivek Murthy, co-chair, former surgeon general
Luciana Borio, former assistant FDA commissioner
Rick Bright, former BARDA director
Zeke Emanuel, former Obama administration health policy adviser
Atul Gawande, Brigham and Women’s hospital professor of surgery
Celine Gounder, NYU Grossman School of Medicine assistant professor
Dr. Julie Morita, former Chicago public health commissioner
Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota
Loyce Pace, executive director of the Global Health Council
Dr. Robert Rodriguez, UCSF emergency medicine professor
Eric Goosby, former Ryan White Care Act director



so this is not enough "merit" for @RunescapeIsGreat



edit lol he deleted another post so i combined mine so it's not a double post.
GrimAtramentNov 15, 2020 8:32 PM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Nov 14, 2020 11:53 PM

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To add to what Hazarddex wrote, for states that were French colonies and therefore mostly full of French peoples, French at that time were a mix of Gaul tribes, Germanic (Frank) tribes, Nordic tribes, english tribes and Roman empire descendants. So they were already at best mixed blood, certainly not from the same ethnic group at 100%.
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Nov 15, 2020 11:10 AM

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RunescapeIsGreat said:
Bernrika said:

The famous working class obsessed with nazi yes.


Typical leftist calling everyone you disagree with a nazi.

Oh Nyu, this is not going to work here. Everyone knows your reputation and your obsession with Hitler, nationalism and a white country. Your post history is well documented and well know among any poster here.
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hazarddex said:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1635422&show=0
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1660352&show=0#post4
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1681946&show=0
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1736255&show=50#post54
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1622554&show=0#post5
argue against what your saying hmmm? (just a few don't want to flood the thread.)

no not even Europe is that ethnically the same. you have celts, nordic, germanic, greek, Czechs, turks, Spaniards, etc

Oh shit, Runescape used to be a Nazi? Huh.


"used to"

Also he edited the messages on those topics. LOL
Nov 15, 2020 7:22 PM

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ProfessionalNEET said:

Oh shit, Runescape used to be a Nazi? Huh.


"used to"

Also he edited the messages on those topics. LOL


ya i just saw that he edited them. 7 hours ago hes such a dishonest person smh.

been wondering why he changed his name on here i guess it's to try and hide from the older users that hes Nyu.
GrimAtramentNov 15, 2020 7:27 PM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Nov 15, 2020 7:37 PM

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slightycognizant said:
ProfessionalNEET said:

Oh shit, Runescape used to be a Nazi? Huh.


"used to"

Also he edited the messages on those topics. LOL


HAHAHAHAHAHA

I saw that, kid thinks he can hide his prejudice by editing 3 year old posts after you called him out.
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hazarddex said:
slightycognizant said:


"used to"

Also he edited the messages on those topics. LOL


ya i just saw that he edited them. 7 hours ago hes such a dishonest person smh.

been wondering why he changed his name on here i guess it's to try and hide from the older users that hes Nyu.

Glad that I saved those threads. For history...

In this thread, this lovely picture was removed, along with the mention of Nazi Germany.


Is anyone still in denial? Have a look at the full page:


This thread:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1622554

was in the past:


The first thread's (link) edit is quite hilarious as the content of the second post could not be changed.


@RunescapeIsGreat Just quoting you to tell you that your petty edits will not change the opinion of people here. Have a great day.
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hazarddex said:
slightycognizant said:


"used to"

Also he edited the messages on those topics. LOL


ya i just saw that he edited them. 7 hours ago hes such a dishonest person smh.

been wondering why he changed his name on here i guess it's to try and hide from the older users that hes Nyu.
He’s online but nowhere to be seen in this thread, I think yall scared the nazi away. Either that or he had a proud boys rally to attend earlier today.
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and i'm fresh out of burn heal for all these burns they have been getting.


"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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