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| Masterpiece. Absolute cinema. 10/10 anime of the year. |
| "It's an ending, that's enough". |
| peak show its finally over knew from the start it was gonna be great |
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| I think the anime accomplished its mission of a message, I tho wanted things to be a bit more different when it came to certain characters... but I think anyone who watches this anime will get something in return. |
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Reply to Koustubh
@patkarunungan Here is my interpretation:
In first episode, we see 'Kingdom of P' mentioned, which probably implied that it is infact Poland but since the part is 'fictional' in the sense it never happened in real history but still part of the story, it is mentioned as 'P'
Now, fast forward to episode 23 2nd half where we see the real historical character Albert Brudzewski the name switches to 'Kingdom of Poland', implying that now we are switching to real history... well kinda since the Rafal-as-teacher may not have been real but Albert was a well-documented historical figure. As you said, the teacher-Rafal of Albert was a different person from the Ep 1-3 Rafal we were first introduced with. Maybe Uoto might have been better off introducing the teacher as an altogether different person but it is what it is.
So, overall, I believe that in the anime story, first 23 episodes do happen, the Rafals are two different people. With this, the final scene of letter from Draka being sent to Pototcki's house where the name 'On the movements of the earth' triggers a 'Thaumazein', or a curiosity to ask about 'movements of earth', unfolding to later events described at the end.
It felt confusing at first but if you think this way it makes a lot of sense (at least to me). And the way they tied it also is great with this logic imo.
In first episode, we see 'Kingdom of P' mentioned, which probably implied that it is infact Poland but since the part is 'fictional' in the sense it never happened in real history but still part of the story, it is mentioned as 'P'
Now, fast forward to episode 23 2nd half where we see the real historical character Albert Brudzewski the name switches to 'Kingdom of Poland', implying that now we are switching to real history... well kinda since the Rafal-as-teacher may not have been real but Albert was a well-documented historical figure. As you said, the teacher-Rafal of Albert was a different person from the Ep 1-3 Rafal we were first introduced with. Maybe Uoto might have been better off introducing the teacher as an altogether different person but it is what it is.
So, overall, I believe that in the anime story, first 23 episodes do happen, the Rafals are two different people. With this, the final scene of letter from Draka being sent to Pototcki's house where the name 'On the movements of the earth' triggers a 'Thaumazein', or a curiosity to ask about 'movements of earth', unfolding to later events described at the end.
It felt confusing at first but if you think this way it makes a lot of sense (at least to me). And the way they tied it also is great with this logic imo.
| @Koustubh Yup, I read other replies and yours, and it does make sense. One reply in particular is that the anime is implying that Rafal-sensei (or whatever his true name should be) would have been what Rafal were had he lived, a fanatick. I'm not sure that I would be comfortable with that idea. It ruins the image I have of Rafal as this great character. The critique of Rafal as fanatick is that he is willing to do the extremes for the sake of the truth as he finds it. In Rafal-sensei's case who was trying to justify manslaughter, it's clearly wrong. But for 12 year-old Rafal, it can go either way. He could have recanted and lied so he can live and fight the battle another day, still researching and making contributions to heliocentrism. On the other hand, his death (or should we call it martyrdom?) calls to mind the death of Socrates, who would rather die than deny the truth. But I love the idea being thrown in Episode 25: Rafal-sensei is about believing and finding the truth of the world no matter what and Albert's father's scepticism and doubt akin to Descartes, which should balance the former. It's like a BS detector. Just a note: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B8%CE%B1%CF%8D%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%B6%CE%B5%CE%BD θαύμαζεν (thaumazein) is a verb that means 'to wonder' and is related to the idea of curiosity like you said, and it ties to the idea that 'philosophy begins in wonder.' |
patkarununganMar 15, 6:41 PM
| 'I am the world's most selfish man.' (俺のわがまま世界１だ) — Tennjouji Haru |
| well this quickly went from being the most underrated series of the season to being the most overrated one, nvm solo leveling still exists. ye decent series otherwise, nothing more and nothing less. |
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| It was a 9/10 because 10% must go to Potocki ! This finale felt like pure magic realism to me. It doesn’t really matter who’s from Kingdom P or Poland, or who’s the villain or hero—because all along, Chi (truth) has been the real protagonist. And in the end, truth always finds a way! The final minute had such a beautiful, short-film esque feel to it; goosebump moment - just by hearing the title one can ignite the fire and lit the lost research ! It reminded me of the unforgettable ending in One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez, mixed with the one in Star Wars: Andor. The series itself has become timeless. In one reality Rafal was ready to die for truth—and in one other was ready to kill—for truth, which shows the incredible lengths someone might go to in order to learn something new. That was his exchange offer!, and it underlines how powerful these last two episodes really are. Full circle all the way. For me, the story points out that coincidence is part of how the universe works—life itself can feel like a miracle. There’s a sense of magic realism in simply existing and asking questions about the world around us. After all, no one truly knows what happened in history, or what keeps the Earth moving, and we often forget those who once searched for these answers or any researh that you beleive in. But the knowledge they left behind—Chi/ orb—remains. We might take truth for granted today, yet each discovery has a deeper story we might never know. When we think wonderfully and stay curious (that “thaumazein”), our everyday interactions can lead to new discoveries. Truth? It’s shaped by how we think, as the final conversation with albert so perfectly suggest. But the greatest gift of the human mind is that it can always question things and try new methods—our curiosity is limitless, and that’s what Chi stands for, in my opinion. So here’s my final research thesis for chi: “The magic realism of humane existence!—Cogito ergo sum, dubito ergo sum.” (“I think, therefore I am. I doubt, therefore I am.”) It’s a celebration of being alive, thinking, and always staying curious. That’s the heart of this anime’s grand finale. The first sentence of the pun was collected from youtuber @lauracrqll9148. Credit to them. However let me correct the rating to a full circle. This is peak literature . This is timeless. Nothing can be more 10/10 . Deeper layers of Chi episodes through in-depth discussions and reviews https://www.youtube.com/@SriMoriReaction |
headless_nickMar 15, 7:30 PM
| That ending was really confusing lol, was just me or Rafal looked much older than the first episodes? I'd like to see this like a type of alternate universe or something like that. Anyway this is a complete masterpiece from the beginning to end.  |
| Ah Copernicus, you have finally been mentioned, how was I waiting for this... |
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| In the end this anime was more about theology than cosmology, with too many characters obsessing over their god. A bit underwhelming. 7/10 |
| I'm not entirely sold, but I prefer that it's one timeline with mysterious/symbolic elements, rather than a complete shift from fiction to reality. The fact it all came down to Potocki's 10% in the end is a fantastic touch. Good to know it wasn't just manga readers spoiling the story last episode. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| You can read the author's interview about the last section here. My personal view is as follows:
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| What a final episode, the end of the story for the prospective university student. Do have to admit, these nights of beliefs and the stars were a welcome addition to the seasonal gallery. Couple of days ago I looked up at the night sky and saw so many stars I couldn't believe there were so many. Perhaps some other season will fill its footsteps in the future, but alas. |
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| A fitting end to an amazing story, and the research continues forevermore... It was very interesting how we got to see Rafal being on the other side of the inquisition, killing those who gatekept information from the public, when we've seen people being persecuted for spreading heretical thought for this entire anime. It was certainly a message that the author wanted to tell about the importance of human intelligence and information, and how it can be used. Those last few minutes, with the protagonists looking up at the sky, that gave me chills. It's been such a great journey. Overall, this was an anime unlike anything I have ever seen, with how it tackled human nature, and how it dealt with the historical backdrop of geocentrism versus heliocentrism. Will it have the staying power to get more popular outside the niche audience it had for most of its run, or will it become the next modern classic? Only time will tell if the anime could truly move the Earth, but it certainly moved me. As it stands right now, this is my current anime of the year, and it's going to take a lot for something to dethrone the greatness that was Orb. |
| so, it is an alternate timeline? |
| Well, that's a bit of an anti-climatic ending. Weird to see that Albert was actually a (fictionalized version of an) actual historical figure, although it ties things up at the very end by providing a justifiable ending to a realistic, historical setting. What shocked me the most was that Rafal was actually kind of a psychopath. It's a fucked up plot twist to just throw there in your face during the last minutes of the anime. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how this plays into the plot, though. |
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Reply to Saks_Mladic
A great story that takes you for a ride and finally comes full circle (hehe).
| @Saks_Mladic The Earth is not a circle, it's a sphere. |
| Pretend there's something flashy and cool here. |
Reply to Nefregar
They really should've hired some kind of historical consultant for these last episodes because some of the laughable mistakes are in plain sight.
So this is supposed to be Cracow Academy in 1468, and here we have:
- a coat of arms of Subcarpathian voivodeship, first introduced in the year 2000,
- a Lithuanian coat of arms (we could let it slide since Poland and Lithuania had a personal union at the time),
- a modern design of Polish coat of arms, which was introduced in 1927,
- something that I think was supposed to be a coat of arms of old Sandomierz voivodeship, except the correct one has stars instead of fleurs-de-lis,
- a coat of arms of the city of Krosno for some reason
So this is supposed to be Cracow Academy in 1468, and here we have:
- a coat of arms of Subcarpathian voivodeship, first introduced in the year 2000,
- a Lithuanian coat of arms (we could let it slide since Poland and Lithuania had a personal union at the time),
- a modern design of Polish coat of arms, which was introduced in 1927,
- something that I think was supposed to be a coat of arms of old Sandomierz voivodeship, except the correct one has stars instead of fleurs-de-lis,
- a coat of arms of the city of Krosno for some reason
| @Nefregar Bro's autism's really showing 😭 |
| Pretend there's something flashy and cool here. |
| It's finally over... I feel a bit empty now This show did not just surprise me. It was nothing short of masterful. The evolution of defining "truth" and "freedom" through every single character no matter their differing views on how to approach this was genius. Each character had so much thought put into them. It didn't matter if they were just in for 1 episode, they always had a unique and profound story and reasoning to their beliefs and convictions. Episodes 3, 14, 19, and 23 were ABSOLUTE CHINEMA Rating: 9.7/10 MAL: 10 ORB IS PEAK P.S. For more Orb glazing, read my review. |
| My 308th completed series chronologically. For the record, I extended it a 7/10 rating. |
| Best of the year so far imo. 9/10 |
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| This would've been the perfect closure if Rafal 2.0 wasn't forced into the story. Just make him a new character. Nothing would've changed. The show tried too hard with the subtext that it ended up muddying the main text in the process. |
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| One of the rare cases of a popular and highly rated show which I just couldn't bring myself to enjoy, found it so unbelievably dull. 5/10. |
| Such a good finish to the anime. They could have ended it after ep. 23 and it would have already been great, but the final two episodes are incredibly thought-provoking. Uoto did the Evangelion-thing of achieving an end that works as a straight forward piece of storytelling, but also one that could work on multiple psychological and meta levels. If you're somebody who is solely into the straight forward, as-things-are, reading of things, I'd invite you to go back and rewatch episode 13 in particular and just see if you have any other conclusions you'd like to draw. Again, thank you to Uoto and Madhouse for creating an artwork that is the best of the past few years in multiple areas. Will be thinking about this one for some time! |
| damn, so all the huge work of hubert badeni oczy etc only got saved in form of letter to potocki (which also mentions the name of the book), which is kind of ironic and symbolic, but really sad honestly, so im not sure i agree with this ending. still, of course, an amazing journey |
| Damn, this show was probably a 10 for me until the whole alternate timelines with Rafal the psychopath, lol. I really liked them tying into actual historical figures at the very end though. It drops from a 10 to a 9 for me. That Rafal ordeal was just ridiculous. His part was already perfectly played. Just a bad decision by the writer, tbh. I won't hold it against them too much because the journey was fantastic. I give it a 9.40 |
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| Damn. They got me reading about Albert and Copernicus. I don't know what that was with Rafal and "Rafael" or something? I think they're the same person? As someone above mentioned, it showed how absolute belief corrupts on either sides. It has been a treat to watch this show airing weekly. Loved it. |
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