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May 12, 2021 8:09 PM
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This memory loss thing seems completely unnecessary. It sort of came out of no where and doesn’t really make sense for the larger narrative. So far the one purpose I can think of it serving is a contrast between the current and previous Vivy to highlight AI development on experiences. Personally I just think it’s wasting time, cause we just spent like a quarter of the episode with an exposition dump about stuff we already knew, but I guess we’ll see with this weeks episode if it actually serves a important purpose within the narrative. Normally I might not be as bother, but with the pacing being so fast it seems like every minute such be used to further the plot or characters.
May 12, 2021 9:53 PM

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I totally understand why people are saying the memory loss and personality change is unnecessary. Strictly speaking, yes it is. But it also provides us with a new internal conflict within Diva- perhaps the reboot was brought on by her self proclaimed second mission/identity. It also allows us to explore the tension between her and Matsumoto in a new light, one where Diva isn't, "necessary" herself.

It's a bold story move, but one I can respect.

...So long as we don't end up with a Darling in the Franxx situation where the second half of the show is wildly different from the first.
May 12, 2021 10:19 PM
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Great episode but a little confused on the timeline it says in the episode that the island events happened “some time ago” leading to relations between humans and Ai’s to fall so the festival is to improve relations on the 12th anniversary so is it the 12th festival? or 12 yrs since the island events? But then we’re told Diva/Vivy is 61 yrs old telling us that more time is passed then that?? If you do the math based on she was 1 when she got the present from the little girl in episode 1 since the girl is quoted as saying she’s the same as her 1 yr old sister who just had her birthday. Meaning for Diva/Vivy to be 61 40 yrs have passed since episode 6? Then Diva/Vivy sees the toak agent/leader from episode 1-6 and he still looks the same at least he doesn’t have gray hair or is a old man? Either this is his son or it has to be the fore-mentioned 12 yrs since he has the same scar though it has to be same guy. Also with their mission to stop the 1st ai suicide it seems like that wouldn’t be the mission 40 yrs after they basically stopped skynet. Not to mention that the events that Matsumoto and Vivy are trying to stop seem to have to do with ai’s getting closer to humanity they tried to stop a law that would have given civil rights to ai’s, they stopped the 1st murder by a ai or the 1st serial murder, they were going to stop the 1st ai marriage to a human but there intervention, progressed events 15 yrs in the future, so it seems like the next event that happened if everything went to plan would of been to stop the 1st ai suicide then stop skynet island TLDR a little confused if we’re 12 yrs or 40 yrs in after the last episode?
May 14, 2021 2:06 AM
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All-in-all I'm enjoying this series. Even changed my avatar for the first time since joining MAL.

That being said, this is a weird plot point to suddenly have -- making Diva lose all of her previous memories and essentially be a different person. I guess we'll see how it ends up working for her, seems like this next story will be a little less action heavy. Though I'm certainly not against an episode centered around suicide.
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May 14, 2021 5:22 AM
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It's not sudden, it happens at the end of episode 6, she basically crashes because her wish to sing to people and make everyone happy is contradicted by the death of the man. But clearly the memories were not thoroughly erased as she remembers some stuff. I actually thought it was a great episode, different pace but it felt like it flew right by and it was the end credits.
May 14, 2021 6:20 AM
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Ah, so, after the shock and took the reboot Vivy lost her memories and previous identity as an agent of change. But, at the same time, its also increased her singing potential, and made her on the main stage, her great goal, after 12 full years time skip. Just when you thought everything will over after the zodiac festival, she met another sister, the youngest one, and Sakamoto. Her background kinda vagued with no clear Ai mission state except just sing. Its even got into more of the wrong side, especially when she mentioned about the partner. Was her partner that guy? Then, what about Vivy visual about those guy? Premonition?

Sakamoto way of talking still annoying af. The way he care sound suspicious, or was his Intention really pure? He might've been right for not involving Vivy again. However, its looks like the timing of the singularity point kinda led him telling the revealing part to Vivy, and ended up doing the mission, once again. So, i am still thinking that the scene of them just simply an appointed point, for the usual arc to start again. This event, revolved around that Sister. If that is true, then, its just, well, unexpected way of start, than i think before.

Also, Ophelia and Diva singing mode truly beautiful. I really hope nothing shit happened to Ophelia. Cause so far every sisters has been death, under Vivy mission.
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May 14, 2021 4:20 PM

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Apparently the fallout from watching a lunatic shoot himself last episode is that Vivy's had a complete mental breakdown, repressed/forgot everything, and turned into a pop superstar. Well, since it was an odd numbered episode, I was prepared for it to kind of suck, and it certainly lived up to that expectation. Aside from the Sister of the Fortnight, that about covers the entire plot of the episode. And the Sister this time is named Ophelia. You know, a character who is specifically known for being a tragic crazy person. But existing is all she does this episode.

So I guess we're doing a whole arc about Vivy 2.0 deciding to get out of her excessive positivity funk and go back to trying to save the world. This episode didn't really try to establish any kind of crisis that would pull her back in though, and spending the last quarter of the episode arguing with that stupid cube is definitely not a good way to hype up the next episode. Almost three straight minutes of watching a cube pulse and rant.
May 15, 2021 12:57 AM

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bring back old vivy pleaseee
May 15, 2021 4:28 AM

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Finally, an episode where no one dies. The new Vivy is interesting. Personally prefer the more kuudere version of her but this one is cute.


Also...........NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAVE OPHELIA!!!!!!!!!!!! Enough with the nice people dying. Please save someone for once!

I love the music in this anime. They're all really good songs. Reminds me of when Carol & Tuesday was airing which gave us like two full playlists of amazing music.
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May 23, 2021 12:26 PM

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This was quite wholesum haha wouldn't mind if all da action was cut off. A.I. suicide hmm now that is interesting.

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May 24, 2021 3:28 AM
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How can an AI really be killed :/
It can be repaired, right ?
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May 24, 2021 8:32 AM
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Anyone notice how episode 1 and episode 7 had the exact same intro scene at the start? Makes me think this happens every time Vivy resets in a sense.
May 24, 2021 12:28 PM
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How can an AI really be killed :/
It can be repaired, right ?


Depends on whether it's self-aware or not. You don't need for example to have a vacuum cleaner that's self-aware. But this is different for higher action roles. They could have their own personalities and probably backing up is quite difficult and probably not very cost-efficient. But this is a bit open to debate.
May 26, 2021 9:00 AM

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Vivy's personality took a complete 180°, I hope she turns back to her previous self. I don't think I can ever get used this way too outgoing Vivy.

That purple thing that Vivy made Ophelia wear on the head, that thing looks so not cute. Looks like some purple shit.
May 30, 2021 12:42 PM

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I actually kinda prefer the new Diva compared to before tbh.
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This series is trash , and I am not even mentioning the inconsistencies with episode. I am talking about the most important thing in this show ,vivy , they build her character for half a series just to throw it all into a bin . A remainder that vivy is the only character which has been getting any sort of character development in 6 episodes . Every other character makes episodic entry and goes. That toak guy doesn't even count since he has a screentime of 10 minutes. They destroyed the only thing progressive about this series and this anime is now hot garbage unless they do something about vivy's characterisation. Fanboys of course won't see this problem, they kept insisting how it's not about world building or even about sci fi and technology but about the characters and their development , what about now ?
Yikes, is this the first show you've ever watched? Of course her memory is gonna come back, they've even explicitly shown it's been repressed, not outright deleted

That guy has been trashing Vivy so much for the past couple of days so it will be best if you leave him be.
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Anyone notice how episode 1 and episode 7 had the exact same intro scene at the start? Makes me think this happens every time Vivy resets in a sense.

Even though I watch it's every opening I don't even remember lmao but that was seriously a good catch.
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Jun 1, 2021 9:48 PM

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Oh, so Vivy literally broke.... well, in this case froze, after that traumatic experience. That's quite the change I must say, I definitely wasn't ready for this new version of her haha.

Now we also have a new singing AI, Ophelia, who is cute af! That said, what the heck with her outfit?! I wasn't expecting it to be translucent and see her underwear xD.

So the first AI to commit suicide... Please, somebody save her.
Jun 2, 2021 10:07 AM

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I paused watching this on the worst possible time, just when spaaaaace cube is less annoying and Diva gets big chad MC energy.

No overexposure, no long talking scenes, just jumping down the tower to prove your point.
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Jun 3, 2021 8:46 AM

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what an absolute waste of an episode. Disappointed.
Jun 4, 2021 8:45 AM
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Wow that's the biggest timeskip so far, and Vivy lost most of her memories... it's so weird to see her like that it really feels like she's a different person with that change of personality, at least Matsumoto found her again and now they'll have to stop that cute Ophelia android to commit suicide, I wonder why she would do it though.
Jun 4, 2021 10:59 PM
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Wow what a garbage couple of episodes. Completely just restarting and now it's just lost.

Oh well im out. Too many other shows in my queue to watch a show that turned me off so bad
Jun 4, 2021 11:02 PM
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what an absolute waste of an episode. Disappointed.
yeah hopefully they kill off Ophelia asap. The show lost its course. Its turned into some PG bullshite. What a shame after it built momentum and development in character to do something as cliche as wiping her memory. Well I'm wiping my a55 of this show.
Jun 4, 2021 11:05 PM
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I thought this episode was fantastic! I loved the memory loss after rebooting thing. That's pretty interesting and something different for a change. The concept isn't original but the way it was done is certainly intriguing. I feel myself drawn to this show episode after episode. I keep thinking, there's no way they could top that and they pull out the slow and well paced episode to completely throw me off. I love it! Keep this fascinating story up, I'm intrigued!
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Jun 9, 2021 2:37 PM

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thanks Officialidiot

A comment with stature, balanced and putting arguments on the table without demeaning others and their perhaps differing opinions... /s.

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Jun 10, 2021 8:01 AM

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so she got rebooted huh. but still, she has vague pieces of memory. They have now reunited and back to business, a new mission to come.
Jun 10, 2021 11:11 PM

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Well, fuck me. Vivy, the AI, suffered a trauma most likely due to Tatsuya killing himself last episode and somehow managed to suppress her memories and the show simply states she had a "reboot" in her system.

Easily the "worst" episode so far. I was never a fan of the annoying amnesia trope. Not to mention I also don't know what to think of this new ara~ ara~ version of Diva-oneesan.
Jun 13, 2021 5:29 PM
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Vivy seemed to have no clue about Matsumoto and her own name but why What is the "error" Matsumoto mentioned?
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Jun 16, 2021 7:45 AM
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Couple years has passed, Vivy got reboot so she lost memories, in the beginning i was like did i skip an episode or something lol.
Damn this is interesting storytelling.
Gonna save Ophelia from suicide...
Jun 17, 2021 1:17 PM
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I really like how much the last episode mattered, holy fuck, she got a hard crash from that at the end, damm...

Ophelia is so cute, though this anime is great at breaking the status quo, happy times won't last for long.
Jun 19, 2021 1:35 AM

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With what happened to Vivy in the previous episode, here her personality changed and she doesn't remember very well what happened to her. Let's see how she does this mission to save Ophelia, who also sings very well and is adorable.
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Jun 19, 2021 10:42 AM

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Ophelia is the most cutest AI idol ever!
Change my mind!
Jun 23, 2021 5:58 AM

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So like... when does it get good though? It's not bad but... best anime of the season? Really? The animation is so ugly and the plot is just kinda... eh. At least the music is good. So far it's like a 6.
Jun 23, 2021 7:07 AM

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Don't know about everyone else but I am loving Diva's new personality.

In fact, it actually would've made much, much more sense if this was Vivy's personality from the beginning. She's supposed to be nothing more than an idol, so it makes very little sense as to why they decided to experiment and give Vivy a very basic personality. Unless this is the reason why the rest of the Sisters we see are much more "human".

Also damn, its been 41 years since the Metal Float incident.
Jun 25, 2021 2:47 AM

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Im so confused at the start lol on what happened to Vivy why she bacame like that suddenly, thankfully it explain slowly throughout the episode
Love the way they insert Diva's performance in the OP
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Jun 29, 2021 10:56 AM
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bring back old vivy pleaseee


LOL that was my first thought as well. Diva is great but Vivy is much better
Jul 6, 2021 12:49 AM

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Oh no...the old vivy is gone after the incident with Saeki and Grace. Got to say it kind of makes me sad knowing how much time (she's already 61 years!?!) has passed.

Jul 10, 2021 3:56 AM
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Wow, this episode was an absolute drag. First episode that made it really hard to pay attention, I hope it will pick up again.
Jul 11, 2021 12:16 AM
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vivy being so different really shook me, super crazy how different she is from the reboot. ai suicide is something i did not expect.
Jul 17, 2021 6:59 PM

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Vivy's new cheerfulness was nice to see. Even if it was partly due to amnesia.

Suicide? Wut?
Jul 19, 2021 2:34 AM

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You know, Im sure there was an advantage to building a nervous robot. But for the life of me, I just dont see it.
Jul 22, 2021 6:01 AM

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Aug 1, 2021 10:20 PM

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Interesting turn of events, feels very strange to watch this after last episode. Hard to judge how long it's been since events of Metal Float, but the results on history avoiding a human android war, seem positive. However the results of Metal Float on Diva? Yikes.

Diva's reboot really did a number on her, so much so i'm doubtful if it really was just a simple "reboot". Missing gaps in her memory specifically with all of her work on Project Singularity, as well as a big personality change. Tho, as much as it feels weird to see this "new" Diva, I'm happy she's moving up in her career, her cheerful attitude and friendliness makes me smile, and helps me forget in the future there is potentially a bloody war between humans and androids.

Interested to know what Matsumoto has been doing since Metal Float, continuing his mission with someone else? Or following Diva in the shadows? Either way, Diva may potentially be dragged back into Project Singularity after getting a one way ticket out. Hopefully she can save Ophelia.

61 years old? Christ, Diva must have a lot of sisters by now, one big ol' family.
Aug 5, 2021 10:09 PM
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I'm usually more patient when it comes to original anime since I like to think that the industry would be in a better place if it didn't just base itself off a preexisting and less suitable format, but holy shit has this show just been getting worse and worse with each episode. I know there's always that one seasonal anime which is revered and celebrated by everyone before immediately being forgotten a week later, but I really struggle to see how over ninety-five thousand people could bring themselves to put this as an eight or above.

I could relay my neatly arranged shopping list of everything this show does wrong, but I've said it all before and I could honestly spare myself the effort, so the easiest way to describe this show would be as inconsistent, convoluted and lazy. Out of all the ideas this series has tried to present thus far, none of them have been explored in any meaningful way and they're not even that interesting to begin with - a burden left to be carried by a somehow even less interesting cast. I think Matsumoto's the most sophisticated Artificial Intelligence for his ability to use psychobabble as an energy source because I swear that a majority of the things he says aren't significant in any way and don't impact the story in the long run. I wanted to hold off on the cube Wheatley joke on account of it not making any sense outside of a purely aesthetic sense, but come to think of it he really is just cube Wheatley but in a more roundabout way.

Probably the worst part of this show to me is the heavy reliance on timeskips, though that could just be due to my extreme and unconditional hatred for how they're used in anime. I was honestly surprised that only 61 years had passed between the first and seventh episode because I was expecting it to be 500 or some bullshit, even if it's still pretty egregious either way. How is there supposed to be any threat of an imminent war when the factors which cause it are spread out over decades? Oh yeah, it serves as an excuse for Vivy to be established as an idol even though that isn't anywhere near the main focus of the show. I get that hardcore otaku are obsessive and weird, but would anyone really flag this show for not exploring a part of it that will likely impact nothing?

It's a shame that this anime sucks because I think that robots often make for the most interesting protagonists in any work of fiction due to how versatile their presence, range of emotions and physical appearances can be. Vivy could be a spectator in a greater narrative (Quote from Cave Story) or an active participant in it (E-102 from Sonic Adventure) while still being an interesting and developed character due to not needing as much emphasis or attention as human/anthropomorphic characters. I don't think a good character was ever in the cards for Vivy because of how often she repeats herself and how uninteresting her design is, which is sad because I wish more robot characters were used in anime.
Aug 8, 2021 4:45 AM

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So we get "amnesia" in this anime as well. Ai suicide - yeah, that would really be BIG news!
Aug 14, 2021 9:18 AM
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The writers threw in the towel.

I'm struggling with suspension of disbelief at all the obviously mechanical eyes. The most human of them all is Matsumoto. With the most digital non human eye of them all but it changes shape and or rather his eye icon / emoji / gif / emoticon does more to sell feeling and emotion whereas all the androids and generic humans in the anime with their never ever changing expressionless blank face eyes (with the exception of the toak villain of the week) are so not expressive.

Where we are in the anime: Episode 7. Of the active characters in the anime;

Matsumoto is the most human character and he isn't even the main character or human.

And this constantly explaining everything to Vivy / Now Diva has got way too old.

I'm out.


Aug 15, 2021 6:04 AM

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So after the incident in the island Vivy lost her memories. And now once again years later, they meet again but without her remembering Matsu at all. Ophelia's suicide huh?
Aug 17, 2021 8:33 PM

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AI Suicide makes sense as an event that could really impact human/AI dynamics and understanding. I'm interested to see where this goes after picking it back up.
Oct 6, 2021 12:57 PM
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My least favourite episode so far, felt dragged out and unnecessary. Maybe I got too used to the faster pacing though...
Oct 16, 2021 9:44 AM
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diva is an amazing alt persona to vivy
Oct 27, 2021 3:50 AM

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At first it was very strange to see Vivy's new personality... I hope she gets back her memories someway.
Plus I definitely agree with her about Matsumoto: his name fits him perfectly

Very good ep: time just flew
Dec 12, 2021 8:48 PM

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This whole ep I was weirded out by how much more personality Vivy showed. Where was the fatal mistake? All I saw was her punching Grace. Also, how does AI suicide cause a war in the future or have we shifted narratives?
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