Old_Raven said: NasalShark said: Why do people think Super Lovers is a "gay" anime?  *looks at picture* *reads title* I can't imagine why they think that... LMAO...is that what Super Lovers is?? Actually... Make that shota into a trap and then we're in business!! |
| Is it wrong to avoid something you don't like? hoopla123 said: Major123 said: Nah man look at Haikyuu or Kuroko, those series got hit the hardest. Those shows were pretty much hardcore fujobait to begin with. Still good stuff tho. Just wait for All Out!!... It will be even gayer. |
| I wouldn't avoid an anime if it contained actual characters doing gay stuff. Why should I? It may contain a great story and great characters. |
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| AVOID? Are you kidding? I'd never see another episode of JoJo's if I did. |
NasalShark said: Why do people think Super Lovers is a "gay" anime? Because it IS. Read around to find out what happens in the manga. It's 100% gay. OP basically said "It's not gay, it just has a few kisses between males. IT'S NOT GAY, HONEST!" It's gay, OP, just accept it. And yes, I avoid gay anime because I have no interest in a love story between guys. I just don't care. Why would I waste time on something I don't care about? |
DmonHiroMay 13, 2016 1:59 AM
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| Lol, can't wait for SJWs to infiltrate the anime community and call us homophobic for not liking gay anime... |
| Meh I like shoujo although they aren't really gay more just targeted at girls. Just as guys like a little lesbian subtext, girls like that stuff too I imagine. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
NasalShark said: It's a gay anime, guy liking another guy is as gay as it could be. Guy touching guy is gay.Why do people think Super Lovers is a "gay" anime? |
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ToG25thBaam said: NasalShark said: It's a gay anime, guy liking another guy is as gay as it could be. Guy touching guy is gay.Why do people think Super Lovers is a "gay" anime? My best friend touched me today. Is him gay now? /Logic |
| I personally hate yaoi / yuri it makes me sick. |
JustALEX said: Lol, can't wait for SJWs to infiltrate the anime community and call us homophobic for not liking gay anime... I'm not an SJW... I just like an anime that others don't want to watch because they consider it too gay and I wanted to start a discussion about this. Why do people always assume whenever race, gender or sexuality is brought up that the other person is an SJW. And then automatically start spouting their pre-programmed anti-SJW arguments. |
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Plume1015 said: AVOID? Are you kidding? I'd never see another episode of JoJo's if I did. JoJo is pretty fucking homoerotic yeah. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
NasalShark said: JustALEX said: Lol, can't wait for SJWs to infiltrate the anime community and call us homophobic for not liking gay anime... I'm not an SJW... I just like an anime that others don't want to watch because they consider it too gay and I wanted to start a discussion about this. Why do people always assume whenever race, gender or sexuality is brought up that the other person is an SJW. And then automatically start spouting their pre-programmed anti-SJW arguments. I wasn't talking about you... I was just making a joke... |
| People have preferences and it is completely justified if they like something or not. For example, I don't like butterscotch ice cream, but there are a lot of people who do. I believe my not liking butterscotch is justified and so is the opposite for others who do. There's no right or wrong when it comes to preferences. There's only an issue when you go around telling others that their preferences and tastes are inferior and somehow you're superior for liking something that usually others don't. Don't tell me what I should like and I won't tell you what you shouldn't. It's as simple as that. If you want to discuss about it, that's fine, but don't go around pushing your opinions as fact in front of my face. JustALEX said: Lol, can't wait for SJWs to infiltrate the anime community and call us homophobic for not liking gay anime... It's already happening, man. Look around the threads and you'll easily find a few of them. |
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Harmony said: I personally hate yaoi / yuri it makes me sick. ...People like you, make me sick... |
Xenocrisi said: Yes, he's a full fledged gay now.ToG25thBaam said: It's a gay anime, guy liking another guy is as gay as it could be. Guy touching guy is gay. My best friend touched me today. Is him gay now? /Logic /Logic |
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JustALEX said: NasalShark said: I'm not an SJW... I just like an anime that others don't want to watch because they consider it too gay and I wanted to start a discussion about this. Why do people always assume whenever race, gender or sexuality is brought up that the other person is an SJW. And then automatically start spouting their pre-programmed anti-SJW arguments. I wasn't talking about you... I was just making a joke... Oh... Well.... This is awkward.... Ummmm. Another guy accused me of the same thing, so I'll just point this post in his direction and pretend it was never for you. :^) |
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If he touched it means that I'm gay as well, since theoretically it is reciprocal... /Logic Oh wait, I was already gay... |
| It's just individual's preference? Not everyone like to watch "gay" anime. There's no point to force someone to watch something they don't like. You can't help it. Well, about Super Lover... Eh OP, have you seen episode 6? It seems you only watch till episode 5. |
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Aoizuho said: It's just individual's preference? Not everyone like to watch "gay" anime. There's no point to force someone to watch something they don't like. You can't help it. Well, about Super Lover... Eh OP, have you seen episode 6? It seems you only watch till episode 5. Apparantly I made the grave mistake of watching the first 5 episodes and thinking it was about a lost young boy who finds an eccentric father figure... Lol. |
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Xenocrisi said: Harmony said: I personally hate yaoi / yuri it makes me sick. ...People like you, make me sick... Why? Just because I don't like watching 2 people of the same gender making out makes me a bad person now? Please. I'm okay with people being gay/lesbian. I just don't like the kissing/sex of the same gender or whatever and mostly most yaoi/yuri have that kind of stuff. So I'll pass. |
Harmony said: Why? Just because I don't like watching 2 people of the same gender making out makes me a bad person now? Please. I'm okay with people being gay/lesbian. I just don't like the kissing/sex of the same gender or whatever and mostly most yaoi/yuri have that kind of stuff. So I'll pass. I love watching two men kiss. It gets me really excited and makes me want to join in. I thought all heterosexuals were like that? |
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| Anyway...I personally do NOT like gay or "Yaoi" anime. Why? Cuz I'm straight. But, I'm OK with other people watching it. I'll be 100% honest though...I don't mind traps. Traps are hot. I especially like Trap X Girl...cuz it's almost Yuri....and Yuri is delicious. More Trap X Girl anime pls! |
NasalShark said: Harmony said: Why? Just because I don't like watching 2 people of the same gender making out makes me a bad person now? Please. I'm okay with people being gay/lesbian. I just don't like the kissing/sex of the same gender or whatever and mostly most yaoi/yuri have that kind of stuff. So I'll pass. I love watching two men kiss. It gets me really excited and makes me want to join in. I thought all heterosexuals were like that? You shouldn't post these kind of pictures in here. Some people like @Harmony might puke |
| I just avoid it. I have 0 interest. Xenocrisi said: NasalShark said: I love watching two men kiss. It gets me really excited and makes me want to join in. I thought all heterosexuals were like that? You shouldn't post these kind of pictures in here. Some people like @Harmony might puke They might not puke because of the kissing. Some people just hate Oreos. |
Irrelative said: I just avoid it. I have 0 interest. Xenocrisi said: You shouldn't post these kind of pictures in here. Some people like @Harmony might puke They might not puke because of the kissing. Some people just hate Oreos. I have the feeling that this thread will be locked soon @Ardanaz |
NasalShark said: I love watching two men kiss. It gets me really excited and makes me want to join in. I thought all heterosexuals were like that? Ah, so you're a troll. Damn, should have expected that. Sorry for taking you seriously. |
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| @GesuYarou is normal for a girl to like yaoi and is normal for a guy to like yuri but if a guy like yaoi then he is not normal , and by not normal i didnt mean "oh this is bad and you should stop ", i mean just he is not a part of the majority josei and seinen is a different story bro |
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Xenocrisi said: NasalShark said: I love watching two men kiss. It gets me really excited and makes me want to join in. I thought all heterosexuals were like that? You shouldn't post these kind of pictures in here. Some people like @Harmony might puke Why the hell are you even butthurt about it? Just because you like it doesn't mean everyone has to. |
| OP, you have a good point, but you couldn't have chosen a worse example. It's been stated before and you've corrected yourself, but Super Lovers is a shounen-ai anime aimed towards a specific audience (fujoshis). Therefore it is a "gay" anime. You should've mentioned anime that aren't shounen-ai/yaoi, but either a) have a canon gay relationship or b) have a lot of homoerotic subtext. There are people here who have admitted they avoid anything like that and yes, it is mostly due the homophobia. Although I can understand the discomfort for people who aren't or haven't been around a lot of LGBT+ people irl, the fact is that the discomfort is a learned behavior. If our society didn't vilify gay relationships, no one would have a problem and anyone who dislikes PDA would feel that way for all couples, gay or straight. But I revel in the subtext, whether M/M or F/F. I got tired of hetero relationships in media a long time ago lmao, and they only interest me now when they're super well written and/or subversive. And tbh, I'd love to see more canon gay relationships in mainstream anime. Sometimes there are gay characters, but usually they are portrayed as jokes and not well represented. A loooot of anime gets very, very close with the homoerotic subtext almost being just text, but never quite goes all the way. The only anime I can think of off the top of my head that does is No.6 and even it tones down from the original light novels. |
| if super lovers was only about relationships of brothers i would have watched it and first episodes werent too bad but looking at op theme and shounen-ai tag i really dont want to see where this will go since its painfully predictable .. so in order to not save myself from another crappy relationship (like in "love stage") i dropped it. i did watch some "gay" anime from mere curiousity and all of them were disappointing or even gross (their talk about hurting buttholes and who on top..) so final decision was to avoid, avoid and avoid. |
NasalShark said: Edit: Okay fine. Super Lovers is gay. Nothing sexual happens but apparantly touching and kissing is enough to be gay to the majority of you. For the last time, you pseudo-troll, two guys kissing IS gay. There's no debate about it. NasalShark said: Underneath the shonen-ai I found an interesting story, and I'd imagine that there are many other anime that have homosexual relationships that have good characters and engaging stories. The story in Perfect Lovers is basically child grooming. I have no interest in child grooming. NasalShark said: Where do people draw the line between what they can accept in their anime? Or what they don't want to watch because it makes them uncomfortable. Well, one line is drawn at child grooming, like I said. It makes me uncomfortable. Two guys kissing doesn't make me uncomfortable. Two related guys, one of which whom has raised the other, kissing makes me uncomfortable. See the difference? Look, it's simple: most guys aren't that much into romance stories to begin with. When you subtract the female from the romance story, most guys will lose all interest because they don't care about gay men. |
DmonHiroMay 13, 2016 6:08 AM
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| Not liking shounen ai/yaoi because it's not cup of your tea? I am okay with it. Not liking them because you're a "straight guy"? You have a problem, dude. For example I don't like reading shounen manga because I prefer to watch it. I don't like seeing action scenes on manga/comics. NOT because I'm a girl. |
Tpfang56 said: And tbh, I'd love to see more canon gay relationships in mainstream anime. Sometimes there are gay characters, but usually they are portrayed as jokes and not well represented. A loooot of anime gets very, very close with the homoerotic subtext almost being just text, but never quite goes all the way. The only anime I can think of off the top of my head that does is No.6 and even it tones down from the original light novels. We really do need more non-sexualised/stereotyped homosexual characters in anime/manga, or books and TV series even. Having a homosexual/bisexual main character does not make that series shounen/shoujo ai (if series genre isn't romance). |
| Gaelenmyr is right. For some reason all shounen-ai shows feel the need to shove as much homosexual action as possible. You could very well make a good action show with a gay MC, just don't have him make out with a guy every episode. That, and a lot of shounen-ai shows tend to be a little rapey. |
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DmonHiro said: For some reason all shounen-ai shows feel the need to shove as much homosexual action as possible. The reason for that is because the shounen-ai and yaoi genres themselves are fanservice for fujoshis. It's pretty much the equivalent to ecchi/harem/hentai shows for straight dudes, so naturally there will be a lot of gay action for girls to squee/jerk off over. Gaelenmyr said: We really do need more non-sexualised/stereotyped homosexual characters in anime/manga, or books and TV series even. Having a homosexual/bisexual main character does not make that series shounen/shoujo ai (if series genre isn't romance). Yeah, we do, but if America is only just now starting to have gay/bi/non-straight characters who are well written (and that too, the majority of them are side, not main, characters), then Japan is gonna take even longer to catch up. The best we can do is support media that have well represented LGBT+ characters and show them that it can be just as profitable. |
tragedydesu said: I avoid gay anime like free because I'm straight Is the same reason why I avoid reverse harem and sports anime with a lot of boys So basically you can't watch anime that has male characters? |
DmonHiro said: NasalShark said: Where do people draw the line between what they can accept in their anime? Or what they don't want to watch because it makes them uncomfortable. Well, one line is drawn at child grooming, like I said. It makes me uncomfortable. Two guys kissing doesn't make me uncomfortable. Two related guys, one of which whom has raised the other, kissing makes me uncomfortable. See the difference? As one who likes reading yaoi manga.... this also makes me uncomfortable because of the child grooming part. That's why I dropped it. ;______ ; |
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| Thing is that character's sexuality normally isn't that important but if I was going to watch a show just about romance, I would rather it was hetero stuff. I have no problems with shows that have a gay relationship as a part but sometimes it can get pretty creepy. I remember watching black butler when I was 12/13 and creepy demon wanting to fuck a shota, made me feel pretty uncomfortable. Even worse that I know hentai of that shit exists. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| So Of Mice and Men is such a gay book because all the characters but 1 are men -_-. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Chibi-Alice said: tragedydesu said: I avoid gay anime like free because I'm straight Is the same reason why I avoid reverse harem and sports anime with a lot of boys So basically you can't watch anime that has male characters? the main characters in death note are guys and is one of my favorites i cant stand anime with a lot of guys and one girl like in reverse harems |
tragedydesuMay 13, 2016 6:37 AM
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DmonHiro said: Well, one line is drawn at child grooming, like I said. It makes me uncomfortable. Two guys kissing doesn't make me uncomfortable. Two related guys, one of which whom has raised the other, kissing makes me uncomfortable. See the difference? Have you watched it? They're not related. And Haru did not raise Rin, he just took him in after his parents died. And kissing is not always gay, but that's not really what I want to argue about. DmonHiro said: Look, it's simple: most guys aren't that much into romance stories to begin with. When you subtract the female from the romance story, most guys will lose all interest because they don't care about gay men. I'd say most guys who watch anime are atleast somewhat into romance. After all romance is shoehorned into ALOT of modern anime, that wouldn't happen if the demographic wasn't there, right? And I'm a hetero male and I like the bonds they form, sue me. (Also the OP was not intended to be trolly, the kissing pic I sent was a little trolly to be sure but come on, he was asking for it xP) |
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Thug_Gou said: As one who likes reading yaoi manga.... this also makes me uncomfortable because of the child grooming part. That's why I dropped it. ;______ ; I love yaoi or slash/femslash but I dislike a lot of yaoi series. Heteronormativity(?) in it makes me sick, which is seme and uke thing. Seme always has to be the masculine guy, and uke always has to be the feminine guy. As if a gay/lesbian relationship has to have "man" and "woman". It's like asking a gay couple "who is the woman of this relationship?" No... it does not work like that. I'm not against being masculine or feminine by the way. I just don't like a couple in Yaoi series ALWAYS has to have "seme" and "uke". Can't they be... like...... equal? It's not difficult, come on. Another thing I hate about yaoi; abusive relationships. Ugh "seme" is super protective and jealous over his "uke" boyfriend. And IT IS ROMANTICISED. I don't mind if a book, movie, manga etc has rape, abusive relationships, jealousy. But if they're romanticised, shown as a "good" thing, then I am disgusted. Because let's be real, a lot of yaoi readers are underage and have no relationship experience. I don't want people to see jealousy as a normal thing. Also I couldn't watch Kuroshitsuji because of its fanbase. Shotacon disgusts me so much. |
| What does this topic even mean lol. Does Free! count btw? Anyway I came mostly because of your forum avatar. Nice avatar. |
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Gaelenmyr said: Thug_Gou said: As one who likes reading yaoi manga.... this also makes me uncomfortable because of the child grooming part. That's why I dropped it. ;______ ; I love yaoi or slash/femslash but I dislike a lot of yaoi series. Heteronormativity(?) in it makes me sick, which is seme and uke thing. Seme always has to be the masculine guy, and uke always has to be the feminine guy. As if a gay/lesbian relationship has to have "man" and "woman". It's like asking a gay couple "who is the woman of this relationship?" No... it does not work like that. I'm not against being masculine or feminine by the way. I just don't like a couple in Yaoi series ALWAYS has to have "seme" and "uke". Can't they be... like...... equal? It's not difficult, come on. Another thing I hate about yaoi; abusive relationships. Ugh "seme" is super protective and jealous over his "uke" boyfriend. And IT IS ROMANTICISED. I don't mind if a book, movie, manga etc has rape, abusive relationships, jealousy. But if they're romanticised, shown as a "good" thing, then I am disgusted. Because let's be real, a lot of yaoi readers are underage and have no relationship experience. I don't want people to see jealousy as a normal thing. Also I couldn't watch Kuroshitsuji because of its fanbase. Shotacon disgusts me so much. LOL I feel you!! ;___ ; I've always wondered why I'd rather SHIP characters from non-yaoi anime (aka Hoozuki, Kuroko, Haikyuu, Free, Durrarara hahahaha) but I'm not really fond of most yaoi anime adaptations. You put it into words. ( ﾟДﾟ)＜!! I watched and liked Kuroshitsuji but I shipped Grell and Sebastian, so I guess I'm safe. hahaha |
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NasalShark said: And kissing is not always gay, but that's not really what I want to argue about. You don't want to argue about it because you can't. A guy kissing another guy on the lips is gay. End of story. They themselves don't have to be gay, but the act is gay. Just what is wrong with you? Why can't you just accept what is obvious? I'm starting to think that it's you who is uncertain of your sexuality. Are you looking for people to agree with you that gay things aren't gay so you don't feel gay about liking them? |
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