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May 2, 2013 10:01 AM
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Tbh, Akira reminds me of Frau from R;N.

I also got this Macross Frontier vibe when I saw the girl on TV in a brief moment. The song the students sung was okay imo. All united under one school huh.

Nice to see Valvrave back I guess. Seems like Shoko can also speak for herself, nice. V SIGN. :3
May 2, 2013 10:02 AM
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Shoko was awesome in this episode

She's so fucking dead...

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She's like Euphie. I'm waiting for ERUERUFU to sweep her off the chess board.

Nah, Euphie wasn't one of two main girls.
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May 2, 2013 11:31 AM
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Goes to show that stripping in front of everyone will get what you want.
May 2, 2013 2:16 PM
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That's it my highschool friends, middle finger to both the ARUS and Dorssian. Off we go with one Module to live our lives free from essentials and Solar power?! Seriously, it's time to shut down your brain and enjoy the balls spectacle from Shouko!!

The story continues to amaze me for its twists. Who would have guessed Shouko is now my favorite character in the series?! I'm now glad she is not dead. She is a genious with the stripping threat XD. Lucky for her this is Japan culture. In America, this kind of threat has no impact lol. Skirt griping is now a signal for ideas. Nice job Sunrise for coming up with weird gestures!

I guess Shouko and Haruto are the new power couple now. Haruto should man (or vampire) up and confess to her again. But the whole thing just looks too good to last long. Dorssian army will catch up to them. In addition there is the matter with L-elf...

The story behind Valvrave seems odd from the start. Why a peaceful Academy holds such powerful war machine? Who is that mysterious woman in Valvrave's control monitor? I begin linking her to C.C and Haruto's vampire power to Lelouch's Geass. This is another Sunrise show after all.
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May 2, 2013 2:32 PM
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Great ep! Can't wait for subs :D

Shouko def has her own kind of power. A power to be able to persuade people and have them follow her words on their own will. In it's own way, that is a fearsom power :)
May 2, 2013 3:05 PM
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this anime gets better and better
love this ep
May 2, 2013 3:25 PM
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So the pilot for the robot is chosen, not everyone can ride it.

Kotobuki-san's character and the choir!!

... so she just convinced the enemies, by using the robot. She's daughter of president?
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May 2, 2013 3:41 PM
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This writing, man
May 2, 2013 3:46 PM
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Someone found... μ's from Love Live.

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May 2, 2013 3:57 PM
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Awesome episode. Especially loved Shouko during it. Nice to not have pathetic main female characters sometimes.
May 2, 2013 4:02 PM

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"To everyone who wants independence, raise your hands."

roflmao. This show's so bad but it's sooooo goooood. (─‿‿─)
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Well not bad, at least one thing I've suspected got answered. Also got a bit more action, but still I can't wait to know more about the Valvrave and it's creator...
May 2, 2013 4:27 PM
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Tbh, Akira reminds me of Frau from R;N.


My thoughts exactly, except Akira is way more intense than Frau.

So I guess L-ellf was never really with Dorssia :O Cool. Looking forward to seeing him working with Haruto and co. But wow, I'm not sure what to think about the students wanting to be an independent country...it's...naive? Lol at the guy who said, "oh cool? An independent country? Sounds fun!" Well it'll work for now since everyone loves Haruto.
May 2, 2013 4:34 PM

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Some highlights

-"You'll help me liberate Dorssia with your Valvrave" "Fuck You"
- Stripping proven to convince people to help you
- Adults are evil and kids have to stick together! AM I RITE??
- Best placement of Moses/RedSea reference ever
- Wimpiest bitch slap shown
- Thunder gets the short end of the stick again
- OTP Shoko x Haruto having another notch in its belt
- Going the Guilty Crown route with a school running things
- ERU-ERUFU DENIED!!!!!!

This episode only needed more Jun Fukuyama screaming his former teammates name
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So the pilot for the robot is chosen, not everyone can ride it.

Kotobuki-san's character and the choir!!

... so she just convinced the enemies, by using the robot. She's daughter of president?


I think its more like Haruto was the first one in it, so its his. Just a thought.
May 2, 2013 4:44 PM

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Dammit Shouko, why did you have to survive, but no problem hopefully L-efl has something good planned or "foresaw."
May 2, 2013 4:45 PM

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Shih said:
Someone found... μ's from Love Live.

wahaha nice one..

great ep? i guess?

May 2, 2013 4:46 PM

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Very entertaining. SUNRISEEEEEEEE
May 2, 2013 4:46 PM

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I'm having an absolute blast watching this anime. Lol... that Moses line.

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May 2, 2013 4:52 PM

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SummerYoung said:
"To everyone who wants independence, raise your hands."

roflmao. This show's so bad but it's sooooo goooood. (─‿‿─)


hehe

and that is how they obtain freedom or independence using the robot as hostage hence why the show is called Valvrave The Liberator
May 2, 2013 5:01 PM

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LOL. Shoko just screwed L-elf's plan but that laugh at the end... ^^;
May 2, 2013 5:23 PM
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Did they seriously cut themselves off the Dyson Sphere?

Did they seriously fucking cut themselves from-

Okay. If the next episode doesn't show all systems failing spectacularly and 90% of the school's population obviously dying, I'm dropping this like it's hot.

I mean, yeah, I know it's a Sunrise show; but even I have limits.


EDIT: Better yet. If Dorssia doesn't just descend the entire fleet and take over because "I mean, who the fuck do you all think we are?" even before full system failure, abandon ship.
May 2, 2013 5:55 PM

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bastek66 said:
This writing, man
It would have been more impressive had he actually managed to kill anyone.

Weird ass episode. I still can't tell whether I hate this anime, or vaguely tolerate it.
May 2, 2013 6:03 PM

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Amazing episode, so far I like where it's going and I was almost certain that Haruto would help L-elf but then Shouko just ran up and took care of everything.
May 2, 2013 6:15 PM

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This episode reminds of Guilty Crown with the student revolution crap. But yeah, this doesn't seem very convincing. I'm losing all hope but will continue to watch.
May 2, 2013 6:20 PM

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Nooooooo, that woman ruined ERU-ERUFU prediction! She should've stayed dead.

They are pretty naive if they think bunch of students can run an independent country.
May 2, 2013 6:39 PM

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Nooooooo, that woman ruined ERU-ERUFU prediction! She should've stayed dead.

They are pretty naive if they think bunch of students can run an independent country.


My guess is that it's still gonna happen. It's precisely because they're so naive that at some point something oh-so-heartbreaking and melodramatic is going to happen — probably a character or two developed at the last minute who dies a traaaaagic death — to show them just how harsh reality is, thus leaving them no choice but to accept ERU ERUFUUUU'S help. OH WOOOOEEEEE the predictability and stupidity show is just amazing.

The one redeeming aspect of this trainwreck of a show is that it's a spectacularly entertaining trainwreck \ (•◡•) /
May 2, 2013 6:48 PM

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Episode reminded me of GC not sure if that's a good thing or not lol hopefully Haruto doesn't follow in Shu's footsteps.

And Shoko rising dat death flag once again
May 2, 2013 6:52 PM

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So Shoko's the president's daughter...
I was hoping Haruto would collaborate with L-elf.
For the robot part, I think it's just because Haruto is the 1st one to pilot it.

"It's been a long time since I last laughed." Is he excited at the turn of event or is he just laughing at JIOR??
Another question, how are they gonna repair the module or get oxygen now?
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I don't know what to think of this? I mean no matter how nicely it was animated and no matter how nice her words sounded, long term consequences considered, Shouko's "brilliant" plan did just easily doom hundreds of incompetent children to a slow and agonizing death in outer space. Unless of course protagonists happen so I guess ERUERUFU will still win in the end. But she just went from "somewhat likeable, might have potential" to "dumbest least favorite character this season" and just a few hours ago I was pretty sure that title would go to Ronaldo.
May 2, 2013 6:54 PM

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Someone found... μ's from Love Live.




Oh my i didn't see this one coming LOL nice one.

What's the plan now L-Elf? Kill Shouko?? Let's see how L-Elf gonna work from now on, i put some hope on him.
May 2, 2013 6:57 PM

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another typical of a calculating man who does not see a woman in his plan...bleh.
May 2, 2013 7:05 PM
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wtf is this
May 2, 2013 7:06 PM

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Shoko balled up..was hoping Haruto would take L-Elf's deal, but whatever they'll ask him for help once they realize that module is fucked lol
May 2, 2013 7:09 PM

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Shoko was awesome in this episode

She's so fucking dead...

taim said:
She's like Euphie. I'm waiting for ERUERUFU to sweep her off the chess board.

Nah, Euphie wasn't one of two main girls.


Lol
Better than the last episode but that's not saying much. Stupid that they think that high school students can do something on this scale. They will fail and we have all seen this before. I say all these negative things but I'm still going to watch. XD

Also Shouko is really annoying for some reason I liked it better when she was thought to be dead and it gave the mc a good reason for revenge.
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May 2, 2013 7:23 PM

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The last part was well.. uhm, I tell you that girl is crazy. Somehow people here seems forgot the part where the senator was forced by Shouko to formed an alliance in their newly form state, this will surely secured the survival of the students especially since the ARUS is very interested in the Valvrave. Looking forward for L-elf having his own Valvrave that will be coool
May 2, 2013 7:28 PM

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Great episode but now that, this place is it own node what about power and oxygen and so on. that doesnt make sense also kid cant run a state that be try already, waiting for chaos to break out
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I have to say that this was an interesting episode. They quickly found a way to make both sides of the battle evil and JIOR (of course...) to be the better group. (Ughhh...) Though I find JIOR to be too idealistic, too complacent, and too weak. I mean they only fought back once against Dorssia before giving up.

Shoko was an excellent leader and I admired her spirit here, however I have a feeling that that has raised (another?) major death flag for her. Those in charge of movements that happened to be the sweetheart of the MC, usually don't turn out well.

And speaking of their idea, I think its really interesting and new, but a little too idyllic and naive. This is a tiny module against literally the entire world. With the rest of JIOR taken over by Dorssia, they are on their own. As much as I admire their spirit, I don't think that they can last the long haul. And what happens when one of the superpowers calls their bluff? What if they decide to simply blow them up, Valvrave and all?

Also is it really smart to have a "country" entirely run by 480 students and 2 teachers? These are a bunch of teens who have never seen or cared about war. What if this war goes on for years as most believe it will? What happens when supplies run out? If the module has mechanical issues? Or a myriad of other things? And eventually your going to have a bunch of students who are just going to give up, the weak links. These aren't soldiers, these are teenage students.

And I actually believe more in L-11's plan. As he says, it's the foundations of the government that needs to be changed in order for there to be any change. This move is just a bandaid on a much bigger wound. I honestly believe what L-11 says. Haruto WILL make a contract with L-11, it's just a matter of time. (Perhaps Shoko will actually die and Haruto will be unable to save her and so Haruto will have to turn to L-11?)

Anyway, I had a feeling that the Valvrave would only let one person pilot. That contract's nothing to laugh at. I honestly don't even know what it injected into that poor guy. It look like he imploded and had hemorrhagic fever all at the same time. When the screen said "Your Mistake", I was like "that's the understatement of the year."

Akira looks as if she has some social disorder or something and she can't be around others. I'm guessing her brother knows this, so I'm surprised he didn't catch on to how Shoko heard the ARUS transmissions.

That Moses line took the cake though, I cracked up at that one. I will forever call that senator "Moses" from now on!

Also, it seems that Haruto can expertly pilot the Valvrave again. I loved that things gun and other sickle thing. The enemies vehicles look bad, like giant insects, but I find the waffes though are really good.

Well, everything seems too nice now, and the next episode seems the same. I'm doubting that this is going to last long. There be major storms on the horizon in store for our tiny, tiny, tiny "country".

I give this episode a 8/10.
May 2, 2013 7:37 PM

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Oh, I forgot, not counting energy, food, water, and supply problems, how the heck are they going to keep going without doctors and medicine? Especially when some like Thunder are injured? Infection is nothing to play with.

Speaking of Thunder, why do I have the feeling that Haruto's male friend is going to become the "Tolle" of this series? And that Yamada will become Aina's rebound guy?
May 2, 2013 7:41 PM

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Epic,so L-elf's revolution begins.Glad to see Haruto and L-elf teamed up,hopefully L-elf will train the students or else they'll be completely dependent on Haruto and L-elf.Cause we know negotiation with Dorssia ain't gonna work out.
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Aside from all those problems will rise up like supplies, maybe they have a recycle system for water and something like solar energy, who know. But I think they won't be attacked for awhile if they tell the 2 sides that whoever attack first will get nothing as the Valvrave goes for the other side. Destroying is not easy because it can break through easily and you have to face the enemy's fleet if you want to completely block the way. But they are screwed if the 2 sides join force which will be unlikely.

I'm sure they know their problems, let's wait and see how they get out of this.
May 2, 2013 7:51 PM

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Epic,so L-elf's revolution begins.Glad to see Haruto and L-elf teamed up,hopefully L-elf will train the students or else they'll be completely dependent on Haruto and L-elf.Cause we know negotiation with Dorssia ain't gonna work out.


What episode were you watching? When did L-11 and Haruto team up. Haruto seems stubbornly against teaming up with L-11 (though I have little doubt that that will change in the long run. Also, L-11 is on thin ice. All it would take is for Haruto or any of his friends to call him out and L-11 will be revealed as a Dorssian. He has nothing to keep them from telling.

Also I doubt L-11 cares enough about the students to train them.
May 2, 2013 7:52 PM

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This series doesn't make sense on so many levels...but I don't even care at this point. L-Elf's plan being broken up by Shoko = win.
May 2, 2013 8:11 PM
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ERUELF's prediction failed?

Now they are a floating high school in space?

COOL
May 2, 2013 9:08 PM
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Shoko balled up..was hoping Haruto would take L-Elf's deal, but whatever they'll ask him for help once they realize that module is fucked lol


i seriously hope u are right..... i'm really trying to like this anime, like really. but i having mix feelings the whole idea of independent nation from a bunch of highschool kids is kind a crazy

i'm hoping something like they find out how fucked they are now since they will run out of supplies in a matter of days and. but again, i see why the story is different if valrave was taken under army, this would just be gundam seed.

i want to keep my mind as open as possible for a unique story line but after all what made animes such as code geass and gundam 00 so epic was the cruel reality scenario they made

even tho i give the anime a 8/10 up till now, i have to give this ep a 5/10
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AlexTheRiot said:
Shoko balled up..was hoping Haruto would take L-Elf's deal, but whatever they'll ask him for help once they realize that module is fucked lol


i seriously hope u are right..... i'm really trying to like this anime, like really. but i having mix feelings the whole idea of independent nation from a bunch of highschool kids is kind a crazy

i'm hoping something like they find out how fucked they are now since they will run out of supplies in a matter of days and. but again, i see why the story is different if valrave was taken under army, this would just be gundam seed.

i want to keep my mind as open as possible for a unique story line but after all what made animes such as code geass and gundam 00 so epic was the cruel reality scenario they made

even tho i give the anime a 8/10 up till now, i have to give this ep a 5/10


Lelouch was a high school kid and he ran the entire country of Japan
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stgzlg said:
AlexTheRiot said:
Shoko balled up..was hoping Haruto would take L-Elf's deal, but whatever they'll ask him for help once they realize that module is fucked lol


i seriously hope u are right..... i'm really trying to like this anime, like really. but i having mix feelings the whole idea of independent nation from a bunch of highschool kids is kind a crazy

i'm hoping something like they find out how fucked they are now since they will run out of supplies in a matter of days and. but again, i see why the story is different if valrave was taken under army, this would just be gundam seed.

i want to keep my mind as open as possible for a unique story line but after all what made animes such as code geass and gundam 00 so epic was the cruel reality scenario they made

even tho i give the anime a 8/10 up till now, i have to give this ep a 5/10


Lelouch was a high school kid and he ran the entire country of Japan


Not like Lelouch is one hell of a genius tactician or anything.
May 2, 2013 9:32 PM

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Did they seriously cut themselves off the Dyson Sphere?

Did they seriously fucking cut themselves from-

Okay. If the next episode doesn't show all systems failing spectacularly and 90% of the school's population obviously dying, I'm dropping this like it's hot.

I mean, yeah, I know it's a Sunrise show; but even I have limits.


EDIT: Better yet. If Dorssia doesn't just descend the entire fleet and take over because "I mean, who the fuck do you all think we are?" even before full system failure, abandon ship.


This. Watching the last scene before the credits role I was like "Wait... did he just cut them off from their only energy source and maroon them all in deep space?!"

Seems I've failed to shut off by brain completely... must remember to do so properly next week. I hope they don't Guilty Crown this show though, if the writing BSODs that badly the animation and music won't be enough to make it worth watching.
May 2, 2013 9:47 PM
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Wait until the next episode to see how they handle the energy and resources.

Other than that, there were many intentionally funny moments:

-Shouko stripping making a point
-gg interpretation of Moses
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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KaiserNazrin said:
PhoenixIce said:
stgzlg said:
AlexTheRiot said:
Shoko balled up..was hoping Haruto would take L-Elf's deal, but whatever they'll ask him for help once they realize that module is fucked lol


i seriously hope u are right..... i'm really trying to like this anime, like really. but i having mix feelings the whole idea of independent nation from a bunch of highschool kids is kind a crazy

i'm hoping something like they find out how fucked they are now since they will run out of supplies in a matter of days and. but again, i see why the story is different if valrave was taken under army, this would just be gundam seed.

i want to keep my mind as open as possible for a unique story line but after all what made animes such as code geass and gundam 00 so epic was the cruel reality scenario they made

even tho i give the anime a 8/10 up till now, i have to give this ep a 5/10


Lelouch was a high school kid and he ran the entire country of Japan


Not like Lelouch is one hell of a genius tactician or anything.


It's alright because god-like EruElf is a genius tactician that can predict the future
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