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| Ha… just when this show couldn’t get any worse, incest is in full effect now. Last episode it was only oneesan, but this time oniichan is in on it as well… ha ._. |
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| Finally, Wincest. it's good that the pace slowed down for this episode, giving more time to focus on the topic of relationship and charactere relationship in general.  |
| Just as soon as I start praising PA works for having a potential generational anime original on their hands, they waste two, likely three, episodes on this cringe incest arc that has nothing to do with the actual plot. wtf? Like fair enough Fides and Kalcrom could’ve been a nice sibling relationship/makeup story that leads us to another plot point, but having them be blood siblings and get together and pining for one another is so cringe man. Japan undefeated when it comes to ruining good set ups with weird sexual fetishes and then Akira over here trying to support them because of he and Towa’s relationship, which was weird, but at least they weren’t biologically related… odd storytelling decisions. With only 12 episodes idk how they’ll salvage it. |
Marinate1016Oct 23, 12:12 PM
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| Really don't like this incest arc it is so unnecessary. |
| Funny in how the sibs have the same exact plan. The shopping trip though turned out to be quite fun for them all. Its nice to see Fides is capable of admitting her weakneses. Things in the end sure escalated massively. Curious to see what would happen next ep. |
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| Well, I don't know what happened to this anime to suddenly start promoting incest. I guess they are throwing this "possibility" in a society where incest isn't condemnable, but I mean, incest is condemnable in society for a good reason, even a biological one, and I haven't heard of any population that promotes this (considering these 2 are blood siblings, different than what happens most of the times, nowadays not as much, where cousins and the such would get married). I don't know, this whole episode just felt weird because of that. They even tried to draw a parellel between Towasa and Akira's situation to this one, but these 2 weren't blood related. So at the middle of the episode I actively started to forget they were blood related siblings, and started to imagine they weren't blood related, to make the scenes more bearable. It's not like the anime is doing a good job at portraying a different view to incest than the one that (most of) us have and be tought provoking, since Akira barely comments on it. Anyways, Akira had the great idea to take the bullet for Yuugure, the Android. Ok Akira, we get it, you like getting shot. Not to worry, since he was completely fine in the preview of the next episode. I'm honestly surprised with how this anime fumbled so bad after the first 2 episodes (plus episode 0), like, just wow. And I suppose the anime is continuing going on this direction of presenting some stories of some characters they will eventually add, considering the opening. I just hope the next stories are actually better than what's been happening these last 2 episodes. I still feel like the anime will have it's good moments, because the ending hints for a twist at the end of the story, but I really hope that it's the majority of the anime, and not only like 2 episodes. P.A. Works is disappointing big time with this, I just hope this is a "bad phase" for the anime, and later it will pick on. This "mini" arc cost the anime 0.3 points already here on MAL, and after this one, I don't think it will stop dropping. But hey, the ending theme is amazing, the song is so soothing, and I feel like it would also be the perfect ending theme for Spy X Family Season 3 (considering what's happening over there, and the ending it has). At least the ending song is good! |
Reply to Reecey91
Really don't like this incest arc it is so unnecessary.
Reecey91 said: Really don't like this incest arc it is so unnecessary. I seriously don't understand why they made fact these 2 were blood related, why didn't the creators make them just be more like Towasa and Akira's situation (which could also be a good way to portray better Towasa and Akira's relationship, after episode 0), and that would seriously make this arc better, but they decided to add incest for some reason. phantomfandom said: Yeah I know everyone want to give their opinion on incest topic but is no one gonna talk how the preview of the next episode already spoil that Akira survived from that bullet? What's the point of the cliffhanger then? Yeah, that was funny xD It's not like we were expecting him to die, but they could at least not have shown Akira in the preview. But hey, maybe it was his dead body getting slapped? |
| daaaahhhhmmmm! :O dude's gotta get rid of that bad habit! jumpin in front of guns to save girls is baaaaad for your health! :O plus, what is up with the 1920's or 30's -ish American car? that makes absofreakinlutely zero sense. sure, they're a mafia... but this isn't The Roarin 20's or The Great Depression Chicago or New York. i'd say it has an electric starter, since blondie boy cranked it with a key in the dash instead of a front of the engine block removeable hand-crank. so it has to be something post 1910's or 20's when hand-cranks started being replaced by electric starting motors in American passenger cars. except for models set-up for cranks during emergencies like cold/freezing weather... which ruined many early liquid-cell car batteries. ya add 200 something years to an antique like that car looks like? you're talking a historic relic sitting in a museum entirely non-functional. or somebody's hand-made project car that just LOOKS like a period Ford, Chevy, etc. but all the 'guts' are ad-hoc modern components shoehorned inside the 'period' carriage mounted on a modern frame. plus, the suspension was a JOKE! did you see that piece of junk hit that rock? the wheel travel was stupid short! it was like the axels are bolted straight onto the frame with not even leaf-springs. |
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| Don't tell me ppl will again complain abt the mc , u guys are again not understanding the main thing, the show wants us to show the difference between a cyborg and a human , mc ain't a robot who always thinks logically like a robot , he is human who acts reckless sometimes , dumb sometimes , smart sometimes , and when u see ur loved ones dying in front of u ur body moves on ur own , u won't have time thinking oh yh she is a android she can survive it chill, like how he took bullet for towasa too so it was becoz of that too , third it's hilarious that the weak helpless mc is trying to protect the op android who has a shield that can literally deflect anything and has better reflexes anyway haha I got a feeling of deja-vu, perhaps it already happened in the same anime ? this is crazy 🤦🏻♂️ Bro there's so much wrong with this anime first the tan girl following them isn't wearing "clothes" like she said in a prev ep she's basically running around in underwear in public with just a scarf lol; then a commenter was apparently right the girl mc is chasing (Towasa) is apparently his older sister and she's his "fiancee" ?? **** bro and now they putting the 2 mafia siblings' relationship in the forefront to promote incesst? and why? |
| Yugure sums up the central triangle tension of the the story before the OP. Aikira has a bad habit of getting shot.. Someone should stage and intervention. |
| Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
| Oh so the mafia siblings are blood related... damn lol. That would explain why their father mentioned them remaining childless plus the fact that his son was going to ehlsea an android. Speaking of androids, I had been wondering how they could get drunk and Yugure explained towards the end that she likes to let loose and quickly detoxified/sobered up. On that note the mafia father and his henchmen now stand no chance in kidnapping her. Regarding Akira, I think Yugure will heal him up someway considering her powers or the bullet simply missed vital organs/arteries but either way I think he'll recover. |
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Don't tell me ppl will again complain abt the mc , u guys are again not understanding the main thing, the show wants us to show the difference between a cyborg and a human , mc ain't a robot who always thinks logically like a robot , he is human who acts reckless sometimes , dumb sometimes , smart sometimes , and when u see ur loved ones dying in front of u ur body moves on ur own , u won't have time thinking oh yh she is a android she can survive it chill, like how he took bullet for towasa too so it was becoz of that too ,
third it's hilarious that the weak helpless mc is trying to protect the op android who has a shield that can literally deflect anything and has better reflexes anyway haha I got a feeling of deja-vu, perhaps it already happened in the same anime ? this is crazy 🤦🏻♂️
Bro there's so much wrong with this anime first the tan girl following them isn't wearing "clothes" like she said in a prev ep she's basically running around in underwear in public with just a scarf lol; then a commenter was apparently right the girl mc is chasing (Towasa) is apparently his older sister and she's his "fiancee" ?? **** bro and now they putting the 2 mafia siblings' relationship in the forefront to promote incesst? and why?
third it's hilarious that the weak helpless mc is trying to protect the op android who has a shield that can literally deflect anything and has better reflexes anyway haha I got a feeling of deja-vu, perhaps it already happened in the same anime ? this is crazy 🤦🏻♂️
Bro there's so much wrong with this anime first the tan girl following them isn't wearing "clothes" like she said in a prev ep she's basically running around in underwear in public with just a scarf lol; then a commenter was apparently right the girl mc is chasing (Towasa) is apparently his older sister and she's his "fiancee" ?? **** bro and now they putting the 2 mafia siblings' relationship in the forefront to promote incesst? and why?
| @UtakaSenpai It's perfect fine he's dumb the way he is, if he's not the MC that is. Having him in the spotlight while pulling this kind of stunt is nothing but suffering for the viewers. Whatever great philosophical point they're trying to get across is not getting across exactly because of how this character is written. |
| Amoru exists just for fanservice and this time it was for the persons with the Foot fetishism 😂🤣 Akira just loves taking bullets on himself to save a girl 😅😅 He didn't think twice this time 'cause unlike Towasa Yuugure is an Android but the same can't be said for him. He has already awaken from a long Sleep and he has got a death wish to return to the same again. Akira wants Kalcrom and Fides to follow in his and Towasa's footsteps, haha Atleast Towasa and Akira weren't blood related. But you can't sugarcoat incest no matter how sweet it might seem or whatever the era. |
Niwaka-SamuraiOct 23, 11:29 AM
Reply to Alfredo-Sauce
Oh so the mafia siblings are blood related... damn lol. That would explain why their father mentioned them remaining childless plus the fact that his son was going to ehlsea an android. Speaking of androids, I had been wondering how they could get drunk and Yugure explained towards the end that she likes to let loose and quickly detoxified/sobered up. On that note the mafia father and his henchmen now stand no chance in kidnapping her.
Regarding Akira, I think Yugure will heal him up someway considering her powers or the bullet simply missed vital organs/arteries but either way I think he'll recover.
Regarding Akira, I think Yugure will heal him up someway considering her powers or the bullet simply missed vital organs/arteries but either way I think he'll recover.
Alfredo-Sauce said: Oh so the mafia siblings are blood related... damn lol It was already said in the previous episode that they're blod related. |
Reply to UtakaSenpai
Don't tell me ppl will again complain abt the mc , u guys are again not understanding the main thing, the show wants us to show the difference between a cyborg and a human , mc ain't a robot who always thinks logically like a robot , he is human who acts reckless sometimes , dumb sometimes , smart sometimes , and when u see ur loved ones dying in front of u ur body moves on ur own , u won't have time thinking oh yh she is a android she can survive it chill, like how he took bullet for towasa too so it was becoz of that too ,
third it's hilarious that the weak helpless mc is trying to protect the op android who has a shield that can literally deflect anything and has better reflexes anyway haha I got a feeling of deja-vu, perhaps it already happened in the same anime ? this is crazy 🤦🏻♂️
Bro there's so much wrong with this anime first the tan girl following them isn't wearing "clothes" like she said in a prev ep she's basically running around in underwear in public with just a scarf lol; then a commenter was apparently right the girl mc is chasing (Towasa) is apparently his older sister and she's his "fiancee" ?? **** bro and now they putting the 2 mafia siblings' relationship in the forefront to promote incesst? and why?
third it's hilarious that the weak helpless mc is trying to protect the op android who has a shield that can literally deflect anything and has better reflexes anyway haha I got a feeling of deja-vu, perhaps it already happened in the same anime ? this is crazy 🤦🏻♂️
Bro there's so much wrong with this anime first the tan girl following them isn't wearing "clothes" like she said in a prev ep she's basically running around in underwear in public with just a scarf lol; then a commenter was apparently right the girl mc is chasing (Towasa) is apparently his older sister and she's his "fiancee" ?? **** bro and now they putting the 2 mafia siblings' relationship in the forefront to promote incesst? and why?
UtakaSenpai said: girl mc is chasing (Towasa) is apparently his older sister and she's his "fiancee" ?? * Hey, Towasa and Akira aren't blood related. |
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Well, I don't know what happened to this anime to suddenly start promoting incest. I guess they are throwing this "possibility" in a society where incest isn't condemnable, but I mean, incest is condemnable in society for a good reason, even a biological one, and I haven't heard of any population that promotes this (considering these 2 are blood siblings, different than what happens most of the times, nowadays not as much, where cousins and the such would get married). I don't know, this whole episode just felt weird because of that. They even tried to draw a parellel between Towasa and Akira's situation to this one, but these 2 weren't blood related.
So at the middle of the episode I actively started to forget they were blood related siblings, and started to imagine they weren't blood related, to make the scenes more bearable.
It's not like the anime is doing a good job at portraying a different view to incest than the one that (most of) us have and be tought provoking, since Akira barely comments on it.
Anyways, Akira had the great idea to take the bullet for Yuugure, the Android. Ok Akira, we get it, you like getting shot. Not to worry, since he was completely fine in the preview of the next episode.
I'm honestly surprised with how this anime fumbled so bad after the first 2 episodes (plus episode 0), like, just wow.
And I suppose the anime is continuing going on this direction of presenting some stories of some characters they will eventually add, considering the opening. I just hope the next stories are actually better than what's been happening these last 2 episodes.
I still feel like the anime will have it's good moments, because the ending hints for a twist at the end of the story, but I really hope that it's the majority of the anime, and not only like 2 episodes.
P.A. Works is disappointing big time with this, I just hope this is a "bad phase" for the anime, and later it will pick on. This "mini" arc cost the anime 0.3 points already here on MAL, and after this one, I don't think it will stop dropping.
But hey, the ending theme is amazing, the song is so soothing, and I feel like it would also be the perfect ending theme for Spy X Family Season 3 (considering what's happening over there, and the ending it has). At least the ending song is good!
So at the middle of the episode I actively started to forget they were blood related siblings, and started to imagine they weren't blood related, to make the scenes more bearable.
It's not like the anime is doing a good job at portraying a different view to incest than the one that (most of) us have and be tought provoking, since Akira barely comments on it.
Anyways, Akira had the great idea to take the bullet for Yuugure, the Android. Ok Akira, we get it, you like getting shot. Not to worry, since he was completely fine in the preview of the next episode.
I'm honestly surprised with how this anime fumbled so bad after the first 2 episodes (plus episode 0), like, just wow.
And I suppose the anime is continuing going on this direction of presenting some stories of some characters they will eventually add, considering the opening. I just hope the next stories are actually better than what's been happening these last 2 episodes.
I still feel like the anime will have it's good moments, because the ending hints for a twist at the end of the story, but I really hope that it's the majority of the anime, and not only like 2 episodes.
P.A. Works is disappointing big time with this, I just hope this is a "bad phase" for the anime, and later it will pick on. This "mini" arc cost the anime 0.3 points already here on MAL, and after this one, I don't think it will stop dropping.
But hey, the ending theme is amazing, the song is so soothing, and I feel like it would also be the perfect ending theme for Spy X Family Season 3 (considering what's happening over there, and the ending it has). At least the ending song is good!
PokefanPT said: Well, I don't know what happened to this anime to suddenly start promoting incest. I guess they are throwing this "possibility" in a society where incest isn't condemnable, but I mean, incest is condemnable in society for a good reason, even a biological one, and I haven't heard of any population that promotes this (considering these 2 are blood siblings, different than what happens most of the times, nowadays not as much, where cousins and the such would get married). I don't know, this whole episode just felt weird because of that. They even tried to draw a parellel between Towasa and Akira's situation to this one, but these 2 weren't blood related. Japan always love incest 😅😅 |
| Oh boy….incest. Totally what the audience was asking for lol. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
| Akira and Yugure both finding themselves respective partners of the Lontano Family mafia, Kalcrom's dignified man's look, alongside Fides's confident expression, the trio has no choice to to really indulge in the double date between the siblings, in the midst of the proposition that blood-related siblings can ehlsea each other. Yet, it's this "love is in the air" feeling that warrants Kalcrom to want to be in on Yugure's idea to get her and Akira together, the fakery seems to be working for now. The free spirited Amoru getting lost causes both Akira and Yugure to find her...and also reminisce memories for the siblings in their key moments. It's obvious to Akira that the siblings are in love with each other, yet the siblings holding back their feelings for each other, it took until the final dinner date to confirm that when their father shows up to display the betrayal of the children, as well as securing Yugure before OWEL does. Once again, Akira is hit with deja vu from biting the bullet (as is what happened with Towasa), but in the name of convenience...? |
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| I tried but I can not keep my 8 for this anime... the episode was not bad but the romance between brother and sister is not really for me... |
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| I don't really care about the incest thing, but at the same time, why do they have to be siblings again? Oh well. But I guess this show is about exploring relationships and whatnot, not really what I expected, but I'll take it. |
| https://www.honeyfeed.fm/u/34774/novels Why must the products of man trouble me so? |
| I would understand if it was a 2 cour anime. But since it's 1 cour and already 4 (or 5) episodes in, I don't have high expectations. Still I'll watch it till the end to give final judgement. |
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| this love story was so boooring and the concept of Elsie is boring as well. hope the other episodes will be better as I've liked the show. |
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| Honestly, I don’t care about the whole “incest” thing. I usually get bored easily, but this show keeps me hooked. The pacing’s been really stable so far, and I hope it stays that way. I’m just curious about the bit of chaos that’s probably coming next and what kind of android mode Yugure will show off this time. (Looks like there'll be a little drama and fun) I originally started watching this because it had romance, but I soon realized it explores themes far beyond what I expected. Now I’m more interested in seeing where the story will go. Sometimes it doesn’t even feel like a romance, and there are moments where the logic seems a bit off, but I can overlook that. It’s still an enjoyable series overall. It feels like everyone is too focused on the whole “incest” thing. Instead of feeling disturbed, I think it’s better to just ignore that part, since it’s clearly being used as a plot element. This type of relationship dynamic has been used many times before. People can complain, but I doubt it would change much, and it might even disrupt the story’s structure. Imagine if they actually changed parts of the plot just because of negative comments. That would ruin the tone completely. I just hope the creators don’t listen to that noise. Since it’s an original series, I’m more worried about it losing its balance, as it already feels like it’s walking on a thin line right now. (And I chose not to check that spot shown in the last minute of the next episode preview. Honestly, it killed about half of my excitement) |
| While the topic of incest remains as contentious as ever, I do feel that this episode was an improvement over the previous one, mostly for the pacing that felt far less rushed. I also was amused with how Amoru acted towards Akira at times in an amusing way. It does make me wonder if she's got a crush on him. Either way, while Kalcrom and Fides struggle to make their move that they want, their father isn't one to hesitate. Hearing about Yugure being an android, he didn't waste time in swooping in like a hawk, ready to take action. I do respect Akira for stepping in to get Yugure out of harms way from a sniper, but it did mean that he got shot instead and it looked really painful. The only thing I'm expecting to see next time is Yugure going berserk on the mafia. They certainly need a thrashing, so hopefully she'll deliver a punishment fitting of one. |
| There had better be some pay-off for this waste of time because the pacing is fucking killing me. |
| Drunk Yuugure is so cute I'm rooting for the two siblings to escape alive and be able to get together, let's go wincest |
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| It finally dawned on me: Towa no Yuugure feels like the type of original TV anime series that Gonzo was making year by year back in the 00s mixed with P.A. Works' sensibilities. |
| I want the same drunk mode than Yuugure! Akira did shoot once again but I'm pretty sure the shoot has zero effect on Yuugure! |
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PokefanPT said:
Well, I don't know what happened to this anime to suddenly start promoting incest. I guess they are throwing this "possibility" in a society where incest isn't condemnable, but I mean, incest is condemnable in society for a good reason, even a biological one, and I haven't heard of any population that promotes this (considering these 2 are blood siblings, different than what happens most of the times, nowadays not as much, where cousins and the such would get married). I don't know, this whole episode just felt weird because of that. They even tried to draw a parellel between Towasa and Akira's situation to this one, but these 2 weren't blood related.
Well, I don't know what happened to this anime to suddenly start promoting incest. I guess they are throwing this "possibility" in a society where incest isn't condemnable, but I mean, incest is condemnable in society for a good reason, even a biological one, and I haven't heard of any population that promotes this (considering these 2 are blood siblings, different than what happens most of the times, nowadays not as much, where cousins and the such would get married). I don't know, this whole episode just felt weird because of that. They even tried to draw a parellel between Towasa and Akira's situation to this one, but these 2 weren't blood related.
Japan always love incest 😅😅
| @Niwaka-Samurai Niwaka-Samurai said: Japan always love incest 😅😅 That's true for anime, but I always feel like it doesn't represent what Japanese really think about incest (at least that's what I have seen). It's always more used in that kind of Harem anime, which isn't really the case for this anime, that I feel like it really wanted to get serious on this topic. But it is true that incest isn't something new to anime! I just wasn't expecting to find it here. |
| Well, it's kinda nice seeing that they subverted the generic development through Yuugure and avoided being something pointlessly dramatic for the main casts. I'm still in doubt though. I swear, this arc better has a good keypoint to some core chara/plot development or it'll be all in vain. The next episode's title there, humouring Philip K. Dick's work. I guess, each episode title is cross-referencing different pieces of sci-fi literature, specifically of those belonging to cyberpunk and post-apocalyptic subgenres. Ah well... On a side note, what's the point of Akira's covering Yuugure from a gunshot? Doesn't he already know that she's practically invincible to these kinds of weapons? From a logical POV that seems to be the case but his emotions are saying otherwise. Either ways, those mafia guys are pretty much doomed now. Also, I'm kinda sensing that the blue haired guy in the preview is going to be a major pain to watch. Sincerely hoping that I'm wrong tho', because the bad guys are already annoying enough. |
Rahul_101Oct 24, 7:41 AM
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| Idk… I’m worried about the plot progression cause the show is kind of losing me. How did we get from an apocalyptic kind of world where the main character is looking for clues about the love of his life to these weird incest side quests ? To be fair I enjoyed this episode more than the last but it’s still a far cry from the super strong start, I think. |
| I like how I thought we were going to get an ominous post-apocalyptic-type of atmosphere, but instead we've got double dates going on I like the emotional music that started playing in the background as Akira was talking about.... incest I like how Yuugure thought she had to trip that guy and then catch him before catching the crate that was about to fall on him I like how I pretty much zoned out for like half the episode The air of mystery established in the first couple episode still lingers on... albeit quite faintly. It's just about enough to keep me watching, for now at least |
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| I think the amazing part of this series is that we all thought it would be about IA and androids and it turned to be about relationships and fetishes lmao |
 » Escapism. |
| I am a wincest enjoyer, I like the character designs and art, the animation is decent. On paper this should be something I like ..but man this writing... Is it just me or is the writing like really bad? The characters are poorly written, the dialogue is stale, the marriage plot is stupid, the whole mafia theme makes no sense and the villains are cringe. Very disappointed with this anime. They had a fun setting and could have done a Spice and Wolf sort of thing but with smug robot stepsis instead of smug wolf. PA Works really fumbled with this one. |
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