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Mar 30, 7:00 AM
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ABEMA / dAnime Store Early Airing.

One look at novelist Yosuke Tokino's biology, and it just reeks the average writing of tried-and-true tropes, as much as it is for Kanchigai no Atelier Meister a.k.a The Unaware Atelier Master here.


MeseMoa.'s OP ain't half bad, quite groovy.

15-year-old Kurt Rockhans finding himself being in the all too stereotypical "kicked out of/fired from the hero party" shtick to find jobs on his own at another town, and a magical aptitude test...only shows that he's a talentless kid. But not all is lost, since he's able to do some construction work, and for a start, his enthusiasm got in the way of others working for the same low pay, which quickly didn't work out.

More than Kirshell being lustful for Kurt, instead, him being hired by the mercenary of Yulishia to do her work, though he's too cute and kind-natured to ever try attacking her vulnerability. Furthermore, Kurt helping her find magic crystals to accumulate 10 gold to pay taxes, which seems like a hefty deal since she's working for the royal kingdom...though the mana imbued within them can certainly cause a lot of conflict, according to royal mage Mimiko.

Kirshell and Yulishia having the same question about who exactly is Kurt, and it's best to keep him under wraps for the moment. And Kurt building a loghouse for her within a single night...that couldn't be normal, right?

Meh, quite the average start to shows all too similar of this kind.
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At least they got a reason to kick him out, dude’s combat stats are trash. A level 99 party ain’t dragging a level 1 to fight a raid boss. But like… he’s good at crafting and other non-combat stuff, so WHY doesn’t he just leave? Like why do we always get MCs who get kicked out instead of walking away from these toxic jerk parties?

Just once, I wanna see an MC with a brain who’s like, “Nah, this sucks, I’m out.” Is this a Japan thing? Like do they gotta get fired just to leave a crappy job? Is that why isekai is full of salarymen stuck in black companies who need a truck to hit ‘em before they get a better life???
Mar 30, 7:34 AM
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Meh. I think I have seen this one before.
Mar 30, 7:59 AM
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came here to see the votes and comments to then decide if i'd watch it or not. well, the silence and emptiness are screaming lol
Mar 30, 8:13 AM
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Kurt’s ex-party members may have a point, but that doesn’t give them the right to treat such a kind guy so poorly.

Meanwhile, Kirshell’s definitely having some naughty thoughts about Kurt.

And Yulishia? Well, Kurt’s unknowingly rizzing her up—classic dense protagonist move, lol.
Mar 30, 8:14 AM
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so true, spittin fax

It's just "Last Dungeon Boonies Kid" again
Mar 30, 8:27 AM
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At least they got a reason to kick him out, dude’s combat stats are trash. A level 99 party ain’t dragging a level 1 to fight a raid boss. But like… he’s good at crafting and other non-combat stuff, so WHY doesn’t he just leave? Like why do we always get MCs who get kicked out instead of walking away from these toxic jerk parties?

Just once, I wanna see an MC with a brain who’s like, “Nah, this sucks, I’m out.” Is this a Japan thing? Like do they gotta get fired just to leave a crappy job? Is that why isekai is full of salarymen stuck in black companies who need a truck to hit ‘em before they get a better life???
@IzanaSolos Getting a job in Japan is signing a contract. Legally you are allowed to quit if you give a 2 week notice. But if you work for a black company, even if the labor law says you can quit with 2 weeks notice, some of them will include absurd (and technically unenforceable) things like you gotta give 1 month+ notice and they will sue you (they'll lose but it'll cost you to defend yourself) for breach of contract. And then they'll stack a bunch of other claims like suing you for lost profits. Even if these technically violate labor law, the lawsuit doesn't immediately get thrown out and you will have to show up to defend your case.

Like here's quotes from an article about an American who moved to Japan to work during COVID:

"While at this company I had a seizure that resulted in me being hospitalised for about a day. The hospital stated that I was malnourished and overworked, thankfully there was no lasting damage to my brain."

"My job told me that it wasn't a good enough reason to miss work, so I was forced to continue working the day after coming home from the hospital."

"The same week I gave my resignation to that company, I was told by company management that I was breaking my contract illegally because I did not notify them 6 months in advance. It was crazy because the legal right of foreign workers in Japan is to give at minimum a two-week notice."
Mar 30, 9:04 AM
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I'm completely convinced that "kick out of the party/betrayed by the party" now have enough anime to be its own genre.

Also, "the protagonist doesn't realized his own strength" catalogue is half way there, while it's similar but it's actually different from kick out genre

Some of the list of the anime about "unrealized protagonist" that is not fall into "kick out" genre I can think of is (in spoiler)



This episode doesn't reveal what's Kurt is good at yet but I believe he maximize his charming skill. The receptionist want him to work in pleasure district while the mining girl think he's cute.

Anyway, beyond the surface, I like that it has some depth. For example, the wall-repairing job is deserved for poor worker, it's such a nice policy that mimic our real world. And the way the receptionist try to prevent Kurt from being take the advantage of from the mining girl even when they don't know Kurt's true strength is impressive.

Now I can only hope there's no one getting killed in this anime. I like it to be peaceful and healing atmosphere.

PS: the wall-repairing boss is hot, but it seems like he's just a one-time character.

PS2: This anime actually use a proper English language in text instead of fantasy language
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Mar 30, 9:20 AM
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Great start to the anime, let's hope they continue with this comedic story throughout the series.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Mar 30, 9:49 AM
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No combat skills, but excels at EVERYTHING else. Well, I've seen parts of this plot before, but usually the guy kicked out of the Adventurer Party DOES have combat skills. Still, this dude would be incredibly useful to you. But I guess Anime' logic, could turn into another Beast Tamer, which I kind of enjoyed.
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so true, spittin fax

It's just "Last Dungeon Boonies Kid" again
@felixsifuri He could fight though. This kid? Everything else.
Mar 30, 10:09 AM

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At least they got a reason to kick him out, dude’s combat stats are trash. A level 99 party ain’t dragging a level 1 to fight a raid boss. But like… he’s good at crafting and other non-combat stuff, so WHY doesn’t he just leave? Like why do we always get MCs who get kicked out instead of walking away from these toxic jerk parties?

Just once, I wanna see an MC with a brain who’s like, “Nah, this sucks, I’m out.” Is this a Japan thing? Like do they gotta get fired just to leave a crappy job? Is that why isekai is full of salarymen stuck in black companies who need a truck to hit ‘em before they get a better life???
I see, it's basically Lloyd, except without any fighting talent whatsoever. And, luckily, no Alka or Selen.

@IzanaSolos
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Just once, I wanna see an MC with a brain who’s like, “Nah, this sucks, I’m out.”

We just had A-Rank Party wo Ridatsu shita Ore wa, Moto Oshiego-tachi to Meikyuu Shinbu wo Mezasu. with exactly this kind of start.
Mar 30, 10:27 AM
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Well haven't ever seen a show with this premise before 9_9 LOL Ah well the art is nice and it's not an isekei. Not sure about the writing though, Yulishia was testing whether he would molest her or not? Uhh what was the plan if he did molest her? Anyway I enjoyed Suppose a Kid from the Last Dungeon Boonies moved to a starter town which this seems closest to in premise, so I'll give it a go.
Mar 30, 10:28 AM
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not the worst ever but I've seen some shit
Mar 30, 11:31 AM
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At least they got a reason to kick him out, dude’s combat stats are trash. A level 99 party ain’t dragging a level 1 to fight a raid boss. But like… he’s good at crafting and other non-combat stuff, so WHY doesn’t he just leave? Like why do we always get MCs who get kicked out instead of walking away from these toxic jerk parties?

Just once, I wanna see an MC with a brain who’s like, “Nah, this sucks, I’m out.” Is this a Japan thing? Like do they gotta get fired just to leave a crappy job? Is that why isekai is full of salarymen stuck in black companies who need a truck to hit ‘em before they get a better life???
@IzanaSolos

If it makes you feel better, there is a show like that; that one with the MC who left his a rank party to form a new party with his former students was quite a refreshing take on the trope; he resigned in episode one of his own volition
Mar 30, 11:33 AM
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Seems pretty similar to many existing shows, but fun nonetheless. The show's own quote really sums things up 😅:

"Turns out, my story is one you hear all too often – that of a powerless man kicked out of a party full of heroes"

Also glad it doesn't seem to be dwelling too much on Kurt being kicked out of the Heroes' party or seeking revenge etc., and it's going more for comic relief.
Mar 30, 11:36 AM
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Sincerest apologies for the double post, but I wanted to keep my thoughts on the episode separate from the reply to the individual person.

So, one thing I’d like to ask the MC… do you have a cousin named Lloyd Belladonna? Definitely getting similar vibes off of that one, just the whole “strength is in non-combat stuff” difference, but they both definitely have the whole “warped perspective on their actual strength” shtick going on; think that was in Beast Tamer too.

It’s a pretty typical opening episode for this kind of show, but relying on tropes isn’t a bad thing- it’s *how* the tropes are used that’s important. And so far it’s a good beginning, the show is enjoyable.

Don’t have too many shows to look forward to on Sunday this season, so this will be nice to enjoy in between the stronger stuff this season
Mar 30, 11:38 AM
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Seems pretty similar to many existing shows, but fun nonetheless. The show's own quote really sums things up 😅:

"Turns out, my story is one you hear all too often – that of a powerless man kicked out of a party full of heroes"

Also glad it doesn't seem to be dwelling too much on Kurt being kicked out of the Heroes' party or seeking revenge etc., and it's going more for comic relief.
@GooseHybrid

Agreed, I always appreciate shows that have a lighter tone, and this one fits the bill nicely. Not to mention, let’s be honest- the Hero’s party will probably start running into issues sooner than later, and then we’ll get the classic “wait, we really did need him” realization
Mar 30, 11:51 AM
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While this show doesn't seem like it's going to do anything new, the main characters are already so likeable that I'm on board. I think my Kulishia (or Yurt) ship has already sailed :P

I hope I don't ever get tired of these shows with underappreciated people getting their chance to shine and show the world what they're capable of. It's always so satisfying and heartwarming to see people gain their self-confidence in their abilities
Mar 30, 12:06 PM

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The usual "got kicked from a party" trope, but at least this one shows us that he really doesn't have any combat skills.

Hopefully, he won't get any flashy when doing combat in the future.
Maybe he could make an absurdly OP weapon and kill any monster with basic moves. That would be pretty funny.
Mar 30, 12:06 PM
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im just so tired of this concept. yulishia or whatever her name is is cute but not enough to wanna watch the same plot over and over.
Mar 30, 12:07 PM
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seems like a mild copycat of Tatoeba Last Dungeon
Mar 30, 12:13 PM
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This is just so silly, probably gonna drop it, who knows.

She only had one tent in the first place but not with the expectation of sharing it with some young innocent boy. She was planning on sharing it with a "big brawny dwarf". This some Freya danmachi type of shit iykyk.
Also, notice how she said:"More importantly, he's cute." She didn't say:"More importantly,he didn't try to assault me."
Mar 30, 12:20 PM
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Nice and fun episode looking forward to more!
Mar 30, 12:35 PM

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the job recruiter was based for thinking Kurt should become a courtesan
Mar 30, 12:51 PM
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This series is going SO well!! I’m really loving the plot and the characters so far!




It feels like there’s something happening behind the scenes that we still don’t know about... It gives me the sense that something big is going on — and Kurt might not even be aware of it himself.

I loved loved loved this episode! <3
Mar 30, 1:00 PM
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Nothing amazing, just another foolish and dense MC with great power and a gaggle of cuties interested in him. Time for the usual 3-episode test with low to no expectations, because there's a good chance it's as decent as Magic Maker or Botsuraku Yotei turned out to be.
Mar 30, 2:26 PM
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For a first episode, I thought it was good. Sure the beginning was steriotypical, but it was implied that there are obviously political issues with other countries and the explanation that he comes from a foreign, remote culture, ala Superman, I think is a good explanation as to why he has no idea how the world works. The characters are likeable and it's a nice change of pace that the girls have dirty thoughts. In any case, I'll stay tuned.
Mar 30, 2:42 PM
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ABEMA / dAnime Store Early Airing.

One look at novelist Yosuke Tokino's biology, and it just reeks the average writing of tried-and-true tropes, as much as it is for Kanchigai no Atelier Meister a.k.a The Unaware Atelier Master here.


MeseMoa.'s OP ain't half bad, quite groovy.

15-year-old Kurt Rockhans finding himself being in the all too stereotypical "kicked out of/fired from the hero party" shtick to find jobs on his own at another town, and a magical aptitude test...only shows that he's a talentless kid. But not all is lost, since he's able to do some construction work, and for a start, his enthusiasm got in the way of others working for the same low pay, which quickly didn't work out.

More than Kirshell being lustful for Kurt, instead, him being hired by the mercenary of Yulishia to do her work, though he's too cute and kind-natured to ever try attacking her vulnerability. Furthermore, Kurt helping her find magic crystals to accumulate 10 gold to pay taxes, which seems like a hefty deal since she's working for the royal kingdom...though the mana imbued within them can certainly cause a lot of conflict, according to royal mage Mimiko.

Kirshell and Yulishia having the same question about who exactly is Kurt, and it's best to keep him under wraps for the moment. And Kurt building a loghouse for her within a single night...that couldn't be normal, right?

Meh, quite the average start to shows all too similar of this kind.
@KANLen09 not just ABEMA, crunchyroll has it too
Mar 30, 3:00 PM

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Please, someone that read the novel/manga or whatever the source material is, TELL ME if the misunderstandings stop and he realizes his true potential eventually.
I don't want another Parry dude moment where he was braindead and nobody told him anything ever. Inner thoughts are the bane of these animes... SPEAK MF
Mar 30, 3:31 PM

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Not a bad start. I wasn't too interested at first but I think it got better like half-way through imo

Not sure if I'll watch all the way through but I'll stick around for now
Mar 30, 3:58 PM

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It's... ok. I mean the animation is pretty good. The waifus (and I am including Kurt) are pretty cute. But the story so far is boring AF ( T_T )
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ABEMA / dAnime Store Early Airing.

One look at novelist Yosuke Tokino's biology, and it just reeks the average writing of tried-and-true tropes, as much as it is for Kanchigai no Atelier Meister a.k.a The Unaware Atelier Master here.


MeseMoa.'s OP ain't half bad, quite groovy.

15-year-old Kurt Rockhans finding himself being in the all too stereotypical "kicked out of/fired from the hero party" shtick to find jobs on his own at another town, and a magical aptitude test...only shows that he's a talentless kid. But not all is lost, since he's able to do some construction work, and for a start, his enthusiasm got in the way of others working for the same low pay, which quickly didn't work out.

More than Kirshell being lustful for Kurt, instead, him being hired by the mercenary of Yulishia to do her work, though he's too cute and kind-natured to ever try attacking her vulnerability. Furthermore, Kurt helping her find magic crystals to accumulate 10 gold to pay taxes, which seems like a hefty deal since she's working for the royal kingdom...though the mana imbued within them can certainly cause a lot of conflict, according to royal mage Mimiko.

Kirshell and Yulishia having the same question about who exactly is Kurt, and it's best to keep him under wraps for the moment. And Kurt building a loghouse for her within a single night...that couldn't be normal, right?

Meh, quite the average start to shows all too similar of this kind.
@KANLen09 oh I totally agree, there is no way this story is deserving of it's quality animation, but here we are. I'll give it a few more episodes to grow it's appeal, but initial my impression is not good.
Mar 30, 4:54 PM
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IzanaSolos said:
At least they got a reason to kick him out, dude’s combat stats are trash. A level 99 party ain’t dragging a level 1 to fight a raid boss. But like… he’s good at crafting and other non-combat stuff, so WHY doesn’t he just leave? Like why do we always get MCs who get kicked out instead of walking away from these toxic jerk parties?

Just once, I wanna see an MC with a brain who’s like, “Nah, this sucks, I’m out.” Is this a Japan thing? Like do they gotta get fired just to leave a crappy job? Is that why isekai is full of salarymen stuck in black companies who need a truck to hit ‘em before they get a better life???

Yuke from "I Left My A-Rank Party" is the only smart mc I've seen from one of the "i was banished" type anime. He actually left his toxic party, and fought back.
Mar 30, 5:44 PM

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another SSS rank shoelacer anime...
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start of the show actually made me cringed, but it become more interesting as the show went on

I am actually looking forward to more episodes and all his SSS rank skills (except combat)
Mar 30, 7:48 PM
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Love the concept so far. This guy thinks he's normal cause apparently his village was just full of super humans (if Im using context clues correctly).
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Love the concept so far. This guy thinks he's normal cause apparently his village was just full of super humans (if Im using context clues correctly).
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Well, it doesn't possibly get any more generic than this, but to be fair, it's a pretty nice show with good character dynamics and hyper-cute girls. I'm staying.
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At least they got a reason to kick him out, dude’s combat stats are trash. A level 99 party ain’t dragging a level 1 to fight a raid boss. But like… he’s good at crafting and other non-combat stuff, so WHY doesn’t he just leave? Like why do we always get MCs who get kicked out instead of walking away from these toxic jerk parties?

Just once, I wanna see an MC with a brain who’s like, “Nah, this sucks, I’m out.” Is this a Japan thing? Like do they gotta get fired just to leave a crappy job? Is that why isekai is full of salarymen stuck in black companies who need a truck to hit ‘em before they get a better life???
@IzanaSolos I think you hit the nail on the head. Not just in anime but in dramas, too, they stay in crappy jobs and/or with horrible companies taking abuse instead of quitting. It has to be cultural. I think part of it is a fear of retaliation/blacklisting especially in certain industries. But, yeah, I agree with you. For once I'd like to see someone just quit and be like "I'm out. deuces!"
Mar 30, 8:41 PM
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I feel like this same exact anime aired last season.
Mar 30, 9:28 PM
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Generic but enjoyable. Good timing too, in this time i have no other anime to watch afterall.

It's funny to see many girl being lustful to mc. XD
Mar 31, 12:52 AM

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Yet another twist on the 'kicked out from the hero's party' trend.
This one didn't seem like the best version of it, but also not the worst, seemed to me that it could be okay actually.

The MC from this show reminded quite a bit of the MC from 'Tatoeba Last Dungeon': he's doing extraordinary feats thinking that this is 'normal' and he's even saying that 'everyone can do it in his village' when building a house so quickly/easily.

Overall, I'm not expecting big things from this show, but could be an amusing and decent watch for sure.
Mar 31, 2:16 AM

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what Kurt said about his hometown reminds me of that one anime. i can't remember the title... but everybody there was crazy OP because their village was right next door to the most powerful dungeon around. but he was the WEAKEST villager to ever be born there. so the lil dude thought his whole life he was a wussy... when he actually was like 1,000x stronger than anybody else in the world.

just an ol school American otaku enjoyin the life. don't sass me kiddies, i've been otaku probably since before you were born. leave me in peace and i won't bother you either.

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At least they got a reason to kick him out, dude’s combat stats are trash. A level 99 party ain’t dragging a level 1 to fight a raid boss. But like… he’s good at crafting and other non-combat stuff, so WHY doesn’t he just leave? Like why do we always get MCs who get kicked out instead of walking away from these toxic jerk parties?

Just once, I wanna see an MC with a brain who’s like, “Nah, this sucks, I’m out.” Is this a Japan thing? Like do they gotta get fired just to leave a crappy job? Is that why isekai is full of salarymen stuck in black companies who need a truck to hit ‘em before they get a better life???
@IzanaSolos

look up 'Black Company Trope' in Manga and Anime and you'll figure it out.

you quit a turd company in Japan just because YOU think they're a turd company... the next few places you apply for won't be happy with this. you don't quit in Japan... because even part-timers at convenience stores and burger flippers/fry cooks work under an Employment Contract in Japan. they don't even have a National or Prefectural (like a US State) minimum-wage-rate in Japan, it is all market driven pay rates by local or regional standards for each job.

for an example, you work cooking french fries in Little City A for a few bucks per hour. but your HS buddy went two cities down the train tracks to Big City C and he gets paid twice what you make... to fry the exact same potatoes. but he rides the train from City A to City C because rent is dirt cheap in City A vs what the rent is like in City C.

this bullcrap system is one of the BIGGEST reasons why 'rural' folks from the sticks in Japan want to go to the Cities and work. they can send cash home to their 'poor farmer families' and still afford to live like grunt peasants in the big cities. this also has led to Japan's craptastical low numbers of agricultural industry workers. also, why constantly year after year Japan has to IMPORT raw food goods grown on land VS what they EXPORT from their fishing industries. additionally, Japan (outside of the big dairy farms on Hokkaido) makes some of the lowest quality and crappiest quantities of CHEESE in Asia. even with the fermentation of soy products Japanese craftsmen are experts at... their tiny dairy cow populations just don't support a domestic cheese industry of any great size.

for a perfect example? Japan's square kilometers in land mass (not arable land just land in general) is a bit larger than the US State of California. but the US State of Louisiana... grows more rice in one year than Japan grows in FIVE years... by weight... and Louisiana... has been beating Japan in rice for more than 30 years. and Louisiana is MUCH smaller in square kilometers than Japan... but Louisiana doesn't have thousands of years' experience growing rice...
just an ol school American otaku enjoyin the life. don't sass me kiddies, i've been otaku probably since before you were born. leave me in peace and i won't bother you either.

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yawn... seen like this one a few weeks ago.
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Very good first episode, he is more talented than what he thinks and what kind of city did he came from?
Mar 31, 4:57 AM
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Good start. No complaints.
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Alright, at first few minutes, I thought "oh yea, another kicked from high rank party and turned out to be OP anime. Yea, classic". And that "my story is too common" comment felt like such a 4th wall breaker 🤣

But you know what? I had so much fun! I guess I can watch this for a few episodes. I may or may not drop it later. But for now, it's fun!
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Meh. I think I have seen this one before.
@Serafos yea your not wrong a lot of anime now is just hash out the same thing till its dead this is no execption, its a re skin of Suppose a Kid from the Last Dungeon Boonies Moved to a Starter Town?

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