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Mar 6, 2023 10:09 PM
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I hear ppl have a big distaste for ECCHI genre (or fanservice in general). I remember being at MAL event and ppl were putting ECCHI as a genre to avoid, sometimes even on the forum, people don't show a big interest in it.
 
I just can't see any reason why someone would hate this genre...

So, any reasons?


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Mar 6, 2023 10:30 PM
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Better off watching porn then being cockteased

On a serious note ecchi's rarely have memorable characters and stories, they're all about shoving nearly nude girls in your face. If seeing that type of thing is for you it is, if it isn't then people typically avoid it. Of all the ecchi I've seen I'd only recommend these

Monogatari - Once your past S1-Nise-Neko White the story and character development really picks up. The ending and reflecting on how far all the characters have come makes it worth it.
No Game No Life - It's witty enough and smart in it's own way, hoping Madhouse actually adapt more if it.
Chivalry of a Failed Knight - This series was robbed of a sequel, where 95% of ecchi drags out the MC not picking or banging a girl this series had more growth in 1 anime season then most ecchi series have over their lifetimes

Less recommnded but still enjoyable for me in some way
2 perverted but somewhat wholesome ecchi series are Mayo Chiki and Yamada's First Time. I grew to like the characters in Mayo Chiki and Yamada's can be somewhat relatable
Trinity Seven I liked the characters but story was bland
Heaven's Lost Property has the best censorship ever and only recommend watching it for the laughs (Don't watch the finale movie)
Monster Musume was just outrageous for monster girls
Mar 6, 2023 10:31 PM
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it has no class, i think you can do tasteful nudity no problem
Mar 6, 2023 10:43 PM
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it's got hot girls in sexy situations, I'd rather watch a dude falling on top of a chick fondling her crotch than watch some shitty anime with ugly characters.
I don't blame people who don't like it but screaming about it on forums makes them be as shitty as their favorite anime
Mar 6, 2023 10:44 PM
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You're not gonna get very bright responses here OP. Anyway, ecchi is as good as any other genre and nothing will change my mind. 
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Mar 6, 2023 10:48 PM
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The usual reasons I've seen are people growing tired of it at a certain point, they don't think it has a place in casual tv watching, some don't like how it's presented, and there are some who just aren't interested in that type of content.
Mar 6, 2023 10:52 PM
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rian9999 said:
it has no class, i think you can do tasteful nudity no problem
Bro watches sexual scenes with a monocle.
Mar 6, 2023 10:53 PM
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It's the worst of both worlds, not quite porn, and 99% of the time it has bland characters and a shitty story. Genuinely curious and what the appeal of Ecchi is. Every time I think about the type of person to enjoy Ecchi, an ugly bastard comes to mind. If you like Ecchi and want to respond to this, make sure to include your BMI!
Mar 6, 2023 11:24 PM
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It's the worst of both worlds, not quite porn, and 99% of the time it has bland characters and a shitty story. Genuinely curious and what the appeal of Ecchi is. Every time I think about the type of person to enjoy Ecchi, an ugly bastard comes to mind. If you like Ecchi and want to respond to this, make sure to include your BMI!
Porn just feels so lifeless and boring. You have zero connection to the characters and you'll end up forgetting about everything in a moment. Ecchi on the other hand. Anyways, my BMI is 9001 and my very existance has caused a dent on the surface of the planet.
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Mar 6, 2023 11:31 PM

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I'd like to say something but these people already said everything that I would, in a much better way that I could

Fantaria said:
Better off watching porn then being cockteased

On a serious note ecchi's rarely have memorable characters and stories, they're all about shoving nearly nude girls in your face. If seeing that type of thing is for you it is, if it isn't then people typically avoid it.



rian9999 said:
it has no class, i think you can do tasteful nudity no problem


EverRealm said:
It's the worst of both worlds, not quite porn, and 99% of the time it has bland characters and a shitty story. Genuinely curious and what the appeal of Ecchi is. Every time I think about the type of person to enjoy Ecchi, an ugly bastard comes to mind.
Mar 6, 2023 11:37 PM

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The people who dislike ecchi are likely into men only.  Also, the anime titties may scare off some viewers.  
Mar 7, 2023 12:04 AM
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Can't see why anyone would hate it. Yeah some of it is cringe but its light-hearted fun and you can turn your mind off and watch it
Mar 7, 2023 12:06 AM

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Personally, I love Ecchi anime, like Bikini Warriors, Koihime†Musou, Queen's Blade, and Strike Witches.
Mar 7, 2023 12:08 AM

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Ecchi with titties out like Monster Musume, Immoral Guild or ecchi which are cock teasing like Fairy Tail ?
I dislike the ones which only tease!
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Mar 7, 2023 12:28 AM

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Ecchi anime usually have garbage stories and characters. That's why I dislike them. I prefer anime with good stories and characters.
Mar 7, 2023 2:15 AM

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I don't really "hate" ecchi. Fanservice just doesn't affect me.

The times when I actually dislike it would be when the author or director focuses more on the fanservice than the story and its characters.
Mar 7, 2023 2:19 AM

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Not necessarily hating ecchi. But biggest pet peeve I have with the genre is characters seemingly not consenting to having naughty things happen to them and the whole experience bordering on attempted rape or sexual assault.
Mar 7, 2023 2:38 AM
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I don't mind ecchi anime to an extent. Some I like and some I don't. I feel like the fan service can be to much at times and the plot really isn't there most of the time. It's just the speed running panty shots, nude scenes, or the MC getting into a accidental situation with one of the girls. 
Mar 7, 2023 2:41 AM

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I absolutely adore ecchi like Queen's Blade and Bikini Warriors.
Mar 7, 2023 3:20 AM

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Say-My-Name said:
EverRealm said:
It's the worst of both worlds, not quite porn, and 99% of the time it has bland characters and a shitty story. Genuinely curious and what the appeal of Ecchi is. Every time I think about the type of person to enjoy Ecchi, an ugly bastard comes to mind. If you like Ecchi and want to respond to this, make sure to include your BMI!
Porn just feels so lifeless and boring. You have zero connection to the characters and you'll end up forgetting about everything in a moment. Ecchi on the other hand. Anyways, my BMI is 9001 and my very existance has caused a dent on the surface of the planet.
Most of my manga list is erotica manhwa I actually read for the plot. Not only do they have actually great plot, but because they commit to portraying lewd content, the lame ecchi tropes are omitted.
But the erotica anime section really only contains obscure BL OVAs and Redo of Healer...
Mar 7, 2023 3:23 AM

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Because fanservice, sexualized or horny characters and sexual content does nothing for me, it gets more annoying than anything so I avoid any anime when I see the ecchi tag.
Mar 7, 2023 3:41 AM

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Depends on how it's integrated. Oftentimes fanservice clashes with the tone of the story.

There is also the objectification aspect. Most people don't like it when characters only exist to appeal to some fetish and outside of hentai, ecchi might be the genre where that's most often the case.
Mar 7, 2023 3:48 AM
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Well it's because of shit like Gantz, Green Green, Seikon No Qwaser, Eiken and Masou Gakuen HxH
Mar 7, 2023 3:53 AM
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I think I've said it in another forum regarding this similar thing, and that is, I don't dislike ecchi if it's used in a more normal way.
I seriously hate ecchi, IF it's used as an "accidental" moment. For example, girl and guy trips and they are 69ing each other suddenly. With the girls panties in the guys face. So stupid.
I don't mind ecchi scenes like those that were in My Dress-Up Darling. 'Cause I wouldn't even call that ecchi.
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Mar 7, 2023 4:01 AM

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Most of them are just cheap and tasteless fanservice. The female characters are generic, very tropey and only have assets to sell their characters. I actually like it if only it done tastefully but that's not the case.
                                                                   


Mar 7, 2023 4:16 AM

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Depends on the show. If a show is a dumb comedy, ecchi doesn't usually matter that much to me.
If the show is purely ecchi, like Ishuzoku reviewers, then duuh... you shouldn't watch it to begin with - if you hate ecchi, so blame yourself if you do.

The biggest problem for me is when a show, that takes itself very seriously, also uses ecchi. To me it's like a BS bait used by producers to attract more people - simple as that. In my eyes it always diminishes the value of the show. I mean, I feel insulted if a good show resorts to using ecchi as bait to gain some attention. Yeah, you could say ecchi is "attention w**ring" in a way. There are dozens of shows that would be amazing if not for cheep ecchi and fanservice. It contributes nothing to the plot and is a waste of time in most case.

In other words, I don't hate ecchi in general, but I hate when ecchi is used as a bait to attract weebs and neets and other so called "losers" of society. 
Mar 7, 2023 4:25 AM
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Ajoymurmu123 said:

I hear ppl have a big distaste for ECCHI genre (or fanservice in general). I remember being at MAL event and ppl were putting ECCHI as a genre to avoid, sometimes even on the forum, people don't show a big interest in it.
 
I just can't see any reason why someone would hate this genre...

So, any reasons?


Well it's because of shit like Gantz, Green Green, Seikon No Qwaser, Eiken and Masou Gakuen HxH

Gantz had lots of unnecessary fanservice such as random nude scenes, attempted rape of a defenseless female protagonist, the same female protagonist also gets her vagina licked by a dog which is fucking gross as hell and unneeded sex scenes

Green Green has too much fanservice and has 2 perverts that'll one day become rapists.

Seikon No Qwaser has fanservice on very underaged characters, way too much fanservice and breastfeeding and rape scenes as well iirc

Masou Gakuen HxH has too much fanservice and is only used for merchandise as well as it being overused for plot reasons 

  
Mar 7, 2023 6:49 AM

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AkihitoZero1224 said:
Well it's because of shit like Gantz, Green Green, Seikon No Qwaser, Eiken and Masou Gakuen HxH
Gotta love people bitching about ecchi in anime that are clearly tagged as such. Ecchi is part of their main appeal, not hard to understand. Also gotta love how people's only talking point is basically "I don't like the content of ecchi,  so it's only made for money, cheaply made and not out of the creator's passion".
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Tropisch said:
AkihitoZero1224 said:
Well it's because of shit like Gantz, Green Green, Seikon No Qwaser, Eiken and Masou Gakuen HxH
Gotta love people bitching about ecchi in anime that are clearly tagged as such. Ecchi is part of their main appeal, not hard to understand. Also gotta love how people's only talking point is basically "I don't like the content of ecchi,  so it's only made for money, cheaply made and not out of the creator's passion".
Dude. I like ecchi. Just because I criticized those ecchi anime doesn't make me a hater. ecchi content and fanservice is fine though I have some good limits on it.

Gantz had lots of unnecessary fanservice such as random nude scenes, attempted rape of a defenseless female protagonist, the same female protagonist also gets her vagina licked by a dog which is fucking gross as hell and unneeded sex scenes

Green Green has too much fanservice and has 2 perverts that'll one day become rapists.

Seikon No Qwaser has fanservice on very underaged characters, way too much fanservice and breastfeeding and rape scenes as well iirc

Masou Gakuen HxH has too much fanservice and is only used for merchandise as well as it being overused for plot reasons
Mar 7, 2023 8:26 AM
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Ecchi sacrifices good character writing in exchange for objectification and exploitation of female characters. It’s misogynistic, and absolutely disgusting to watch. Ecchi is a reminder of sexism creeping into our media, and you have to be brain-dead, or misogynistic, to not recognize it as a problem.
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it's rarely incorporated in the story or themes of the anime, so it's seems so out of place and everything comes to an hold. But if done right, you get something great like Kill La Kill
Mar 7, 2023 10:06 AM
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cause ecchi is like.... okay you cant explain why someone feels something/dont like something/or like something they just do, like ohh why you like/dont like... etc, but its like, when i was younger and first time i seen ecchi/fanservice i did not like it, obvs we all found p and thats another thing, but well yeah people dont like it cause it makes them uncomfortable, it made me uncomfortable, so i would know.
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A lot of the times it's usually just sexual assault, and listen, after I got my thighs fondled by a random man on a plane to my flight to the UK while he tried to sleep on my and his hand kept creeping up my thigh, I can't fucking do it. Every single time, I think back to that one moment, and I can't do it, I just can't. 

If it's done without the sexual assault, rape, etc, then I'm usually fine with it. Sideboob and underboob are peak character designs and you can't tell me otherwise. 
Mar 7, 2023 10:22 AM
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I won't swear off a series just because it's an ecchi, but I do believe most ecchi series would be better without fanservice. If the show has a story, then the ecchi serves as a distraction that is neither funny nor arousing (at least not to me, anyway). And if the show doesn't have a story outside of "Kyaa!! Why'd you flip my skirt, senpai?!" then chances are I won't be watching it in the first place.

As for "why" I don't like ecchi in general... I'm asexual. Sorry, I guess? I have nothing wrong with a bit of sex comedy, but often I find the so-called "jokes" in ecchi/comedy series just aren't that funny. Gimme more ecchi like Panty & Stocking and JoJolion, and less like Ladies versus Butlers! and MonMusu...
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Mar 7, 2023 10:27 AM

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i don't hate it per say but it's just not my thing
Mar 7, 2023 10:35 AM
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Ecchi for me is the genre for heterosexual guys and others who are into girls. Those Anime and scenes make me cringe and uncomfortable bcs Im not into girls that much. I dont hate it, I just dont get it.
Mar 7, 2023 10:46 AM

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its a little too much when thats the purpose of the entire show, its feels exploitative and i just roll my eyes
i dont even get a chance to actually get myself to like the characters first and get to know them
of course dont get me wrong im not against all kinds of ecchi scenes in my anime; i like when it catches me off guard somewhere in the middle of the series or near the end, maybe once or twice tops
cuz yeah i will definitely enjoy and get a little rowdy when i get to see the characters i actually know and like being a little sexy u know
just the ecchi imagery for the sake of being ecchi doesnt do anything for me, it feels so empty and depresonalized; first i wanna get to like these characters for who they actually are u know
sort of a demisexual take
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If I really wanted to see anything sexual I would just watch porn.

Unfortunately the manhwas that have both plot and "plot" didn't get adapted. :(
Mar 7, 2023 11:36 AM

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too much ecchi would make the anime look trash 
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I don't mind ecchi anime to an extent. Some I like and some I don't. I feel like the fan service can be to much at times and the plot really isn't there most of the time. It's just the speed running panty shots, nude scenes, or the MC getting into a accidental situation with one of the girls. 
Same here as long it's not repetitive in a way that it starts to feel kind of like hentai and such.
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I don't watch ecchi usually because I just find it cheap, unfunny and boring a majority of the time. 
When I watch an anime without the tag and a female characters goes fanservice it feels like a disservice to the character. Yes I do watch shounen and battle shounen but I watch them for the action and mostly for the male characters. Its why I don't have many favourite female characters. 

Not to say I'm entirely opposed. But if the anime wants tittilation I don't want it from accidental panty shotting from a  school aged/teenage girl. 
Mar 7, 2023 1:05 PM

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Because most of it is tasteless and not fitting thematically or with the world that's presented in said show. No Game No Life, to give an example, is infamous for having unnecessary and copious amount of ecchi involving an 11 year old that completely ruined the show for many, myself included. I have no problem with it if enhances some aspect of the show - for example Cyberpunk Edgerunners where it enhances the dystopian scenery/atmosphere. Although, 90% of the time it's untasteful fanservice/pandering. It's equivalent to jumpscares in horror movies; Cheap.
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O only hate ecchi when it’s uncalled for or unnecessary  in anime
Mar 7, 2023 1:38 PM

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I love ecchi, but I know why a lot of people don't.
There are many reasons why people hate ecchi, for example: it makes female characters "sexual", it makes underage "sexual", it doesn't have good plots, full of clichés and characters with personality tropes, there are people who are repulsed by themes sexual.

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Ecchi haters are often sexually immature teens or morally puritanical conservatives to target a specific demographic.

The sexualization of a character does nothing to the character's personality, it's just fanservice. Not everything is black and white where some treat it as merely an object for masturbation and others that insert themselves with the "realism and depth" of the character.

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Mar 7, 2023 2:16 PM

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how many topics does this make of straight males complaining that ppl don't like kiddy porn?

more whining and moaning cuz they can't accept ppl not jerking off to (pre) pubescent girls like they do

this is the reason y we keep kids away from them
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Ecchi sacrifices good character writing in exchange for objectification and exploitation of female characters. It’s misogynistic, and absolutely disgusting to watch. Ecchi is a reminder of sexism creeping into our media, and you have to be brain-dead, or misogynistic, to not recognize it as a problem.

Ok, I am not a fan of ecchi anime but I must say your post deserves a reply.

Lol. "good character writing" is not a requirement for "our" media. People can write whatever they want. If you want to write a story about sexy ladies or men flaunting their stuff then there's nothing actually wrong with that. Sexual desire is not misogynistic... it's the most natural thing in the world.
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GreyStoneFlinger said:
Ecchi sacrifices good character writing in exchange for objectification and exploitation of female characters. It’s misogynistic, and absolutely disgusting to watch. Ecchi is a reminder of sexism creeping into our media, and you have to be brain-dead, or misogynistic, to not recognize it as a problem.

Media isn't some kind of public property, separate pieces of it belong to those who create it and and pay for it, so you should buzz off if this particular medium isn't to your liking.
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its 2023 and we now everyone nowdays is a bit gay
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GreyStoneFlinger said:
Ecchi sacrifices good character writing in exchange for objectification and exploitation of female characters. It’s misogynistic, and absolutely disgusting to watch. Ecchi is a reminder of sexism creeping into our media, and you have to be brain-dead, or misogynistic, to not recognize it as a problem.

Ok, I am not a fan of ecchi anime but I must say your post deserves a reply.

Lol. "good character writing" is not a requirement for "our" media. People can write whatever they want. If you want to write a story about sexy ladies or men flaunting their stuff then there's nothing actually wrong with that. Sexual desire is not misogynistic... it's the most natural thing in the world.

Tsk tsk tsk. You really should have higher standards. Hentai is at it's best when you actually read it for the plot.
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