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Jun 18, 2021 2:08 AM
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Initially I was looking forward to this. That was until Jouran:The Princess of Snow and Blood came around. Now I noticed many red flags. Kaizoku Oujo is another series with princess in the title featuring an orphan girl. Sounds familiar. From what I've seen in the trailer there will be sword and gun fights, traditional pirate stuff or more akin to Jouran? Characters look pretty uninspired. Normally I wouldn't mind, however, in this context it's adding fuel to the fire or so to speak. Same goes for the name Eden(a classic, but feels like I heard it more often lately) Ngl, overall I'm getting many bad vibes.

I hope it won't be as mediocre as I fear. At least the pirate premise sounds up my alley. And can't forgot about the music hehe.


What do you expect?

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Jun 18, 2021 2:34 AM
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Hope they wont ruin it like Noblesse or The God of High School. But I still have some hope because Tower of God and Tonikaku Kawaii isnt got ruin. So sure, will check this out. This is an original, so IDK what to hope.
Funny how Netflix is being called an “anime destroyer” for like 4 year I believe and now Crunchyroll have that mark too bruh. But not every Crunchyroll or Netflix Original is bad TBH. In fact, some of them are good or amazing. Like Tower of God & Tonikaku Kawaii for Crunchyroll. Violet Evergarden, Great Pretender, Beastars,… for Netflix.
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Jun 18, 2021 2:51 AM
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I don't know yet, I don't really have expectations to be let down if it isn't good.
Hopefully it is good though, especially because it is being produced by Production IG.
Jun 18, 2021 4:48 AM
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AbelNhom said:
Hope they wont ruin it like Noblesse or The God of High School. But I still have some hope because Tower of God and Tonikaku Kawaii isnt got ruin. So sure, will check this out. This is an original, so IDK what to hope.
Funny how Netflix is being called an “anime destroyer” for like 4 year I believe and now Crunchyroll have that mark too bruh. But not every Crunchyroll or Netflix Original is bad TBH. In fact, some of them are good or amazing. Like Tower of God & Tonikaku Kawaii for Crunchyroll. Violet Evergarden, Great Pretender, Beastars,… for Netflix.


Majority of these originals that were co-produced by streaming sites didn't turn out good. Great Pretender is the only exception I can think of and that one had 24 episodes. The other projects where companies slapped their name on it were just forgettable cash grab without vision whatsoever.


Judevin said:
I don't know yet, I don't really have expectations to be let down if it isn't good.
Hopefully it is good though, especially because it is being produced by Production IG.



A saving grace. They're up there as one of my favorite studios, but even they had failures in the past. Doesn't help that I wasn't able to find out much about the scriptwriter, only that he worked on Moriarty in production advancement. Well, I hope he's gonna be satisfied with his debut as writer.

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Jun 18, 2021 4:56 AM
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Another one of those big project anime shows with money, staff, big foreign investor name, "we all put our hearts into making it" words that'll be forgotten two weeks after finishing airing.

VAs and Kajiura cant save the day this time.

/spit


AbelNhom said:
In fact, some of them are good or amazing. Like Tower of God & Tonikaku Kawaii for Crunchyroll. Violet Evergarden, Great Pretender, Beastars,… for Netflix.


Tower of God - "Im so sick of Japanese generic trash every season, its time for chinese masterpiece take place" ...
Tonikaku Kawaii - "Im a lonely man and i wish for cute, shy, OwO kawaii desu girly girl wifey" ...
Violet Evergarden - "Cute girl sad, me sad, me cry, me slap 10/10 on it"
Beastars - ...

But then again that's just my opinion :) So what do i know really.
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Jun 18, 2021 5:01 AM
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AbelNhom said:
In fact, some of them are good or amazing. Like Tower of God & Tonikaku Kawaii for Crunchyroll. Violet Evergarden, Great Pretender, Beastars,… for Netflix.


Tower of God - "Im so sick of Japanese generic trash every season, its time for chinese masterpiece take place" ...
Tonikaku Kawaii - "Im a lonely man and i wish for cute, shy, OwO kawaii desu girly girl wifey" ...
Violet Evergarden - "Cute girl sad, me sad, me cry, me slap 10/10 on it"
Beastars - ...[/quote]
Tower of God is Korean actually. And there are still more good stuff like Dorohedoro.
Jun 18, 2021 5:03 AM
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@Swagernator hard to disagree with the first part of your post, but Beastars was fucking legit. Nice CGI, great source + made me a furry.

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Jun 18, 2021 5:13 AM
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FMmatron said:
@Swagernator hard to disagree with the first part of your post, but Beastars was fucking legit. Nice CGI, great source + made me a furry.

I just feel like the bigger the names, the bigger the disappointment. ESPECIALLY when comes to original anime shows these days.
Jun 18, 2021 5:29 AM
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FMmatron said:
@Swagernator hard to disagree with the first part of your post, but Beastars was fucking legit. Nice CGI, great source + made me a furry.

I just feel like the bigger the names, the bigger the disappointment. ESPECIALLY when comes to original anime shows these days.


That's why it's important to keep expectations in check.

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I’m still amazed people think Tower of God was good as a WEBTOONS
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Jun 18, 2021 6:49 AM

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It's by the b: the beginning guy so at least the action will look good but it's still crunchyroll so I have to keep my expectations down.
Crunchyroll's shows are more consistent than netflix but the problem is that they're consistently shit.
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Jun 19, 2021 3:26 AM

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I too have little to no confidence in Crunchyroll shows but this one seems kinda different. In the interview with the director Nakazawa and the producer Kuroki they said that they had to lie what the show's is about to secure the funding lol. They also said the project was inspired by 70s and 80s shoujo manga and seem quite happy about it. Kinda seems like they approached the investors and not investors them.

That said, I still have low expectations for the show but mainly because of Nakazawa. He is a fantastic animator and designer with lots of style having made awesome short animations like that Linkin Park music video and Kill Bill animated sequence, as well as being the main animator for Kuroko. But I don't think he is a good writer/director for full-fledged tv shows. The scriptwriter seemingly being a total newbie doesn't help either.

Only thing I am sure of is that the Production IG and the staff will deliver really high production values. Hopefully that alone will be able to make the show worthwhile if nothing else doesn't manage to.
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Tsarko said:
I too have little to no confidence in Crunchyroll shows but this one seems kinda different. In the interview with the director Nakazawa and the producer Kuroki they said that they had to lie what the show's is about to secure the funding lol. They also said the project was inspired by 70s and 80s shoujo manga and seem quite happy about it. Kinda seems like they approached the investors and not investors them.

That said, I still have low expectations for the show but mainly because of Nakazawa. He is a fantastic animator and designer with lots of style having made awesome short animations like that Linkin Park music video and Kill Bill animated sequence, as well as being the main animator for Kuroko. But I don't think he is a good writer/director for full-fledged tv shows. The scriptwriter seemingly being a total newbie doesn't help either.

Only thing I am sure of is that the Production IG and the staff will deliver really high production values. Hopefully that alone will be able to make the show worthwhile if nothing else doesn't manage to.


Would like to read the interview myself, do you have a link?

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Jun 20, 2021 2:35 PM

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@FMmatron

Actually, just found a news article reporting on it:
https://www.otaquest.com/fena-pirate-princess-work-in-progress-annecy/

‘It was most challenging to come up with a strategy to cope with the project,’ admitted Kuroki. ‘Every time we do an original project we need to ask for a development fee from the company. I remember contemplating with what I should do in order to get that money. When it comes to shoujo manga and original ideas, it can be really difficult to get the funding which was what I was worried about, so I lied to them and told them that the idea was essentially Mad Max at sea. Then they released the funding.’
Jun 20, 2021 2:42 PM

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@FMmatron

Actually, just found a news article reporting on it:
https://www.otaquest.com/fena-pirate-princess-work-in-progress-annecy/

‘It was most challenging to come up with a strategy to cope with the project,’ admitted Kuroki. ‘Every time we do an original project we need to ask for a development fee from the company. I remember contemplating with what I should do in order to get that money. When it comes to shoujo manga and original ideas, it can be really difficult to get the funding which was what I was worried about, so I lied to them and told them that the idea was essentially Mad Max at sea. Then they released the funding.’


Lmao, based af and he sounds like a nice guy. Well, I will try to go into this open minded with the intention to enjoy it as much as possible.

Thanks for the links.

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Jul 1, 2021 4:40 PM

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Theo1899 said:
It's by the b: the beginning guy so at least the action will look good but it's still crunchyroll so I have to keep my expectations down.
Crunchyroll's shows are more consistent than netflix but the problem is that they're consistently shit.


Oh shit. I loved B the Beginning... >>
*slides this into my watchlist*

The characters look great and the cast is good, and if the writer does a semi reasonable job I'm probably going to enjoy this one. :)
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By definition, everything is retro since by the time you realize something has happened it's already in the past.
Jul 11, 2021 3:42 PM

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This sounds from the description really good. hopefully it doesn't suck balls.
Jul 15, 2021 9:33 PM

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Even a shit studio or producer can make a good show with the right people working on it.
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But isn't it also a Toonami "original" like FLCL (unnecessary) sequels?
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FMmatron said:
Initially I was looking forward to this. That was until Jouran:The Princess of Snow and Blood came around. Now I noticed many red flags. Kaizoku Oujo is another series with princess in the title featuring an orphan girl. Sounds familiar. From what I've seen in the trailer there will be sword and gun fights, traditional pirate stuff or more akin to Jouran? Characters look pretty uninspired. Normally I wouldn't mind, however, in this context it's adding fuel to the fire or so to speak. Same goes for the name Eden(a classic, but feels like I heard it more often lately) Ngl, overall I'm getting many bad vibes.

I hope it won't be as mediocre as I fear. At least the pirate premise sounds up my alley. And can't forgot about the music hehe.


What do you expect?
Jouran was not even particularly bad so I don't see much reason to panic
Aug 6, 2021 4:29 AM
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Feels like this is will be the type of anime that wil give me the feels
Aug 6, 2021 4:53 AM

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Aeriality said:
Feels like this is will be the type of anime that wil give me the feels


Hopefully it won't make you feel sick

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Aug 7, 2021 12:28 AM
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You guys straight up forgot B: The Beggining? We'll have to see
Aug 8, 2021 6:50 AM
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It’s the same studio who did B:the Beginning. So I’m not holding my breath.
Aug 8, 2021 7:17 AM

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Wen_tnuocca said:
It’s the same studio who did B:the Beginning. So I’m not holding my breath.


What is that supposed to mean? Production I.G is a high profile studio with an outstanding catalogue of anime.

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Aug 8, 2021 7:22 AM

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The title itself is giving me red flags. Hope it's not a mary sue bs.

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FMmatron said:
Wen_tnuocca said:
It’s the same studio who did B:the Beginning. So I’m not holding my breath.


What is that supposed to mean? Production I.G is a high profile studio with an outstanding catalogue of anime.
I'm saying it's by the same director Kazuto Nakazawa.
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FMmatron said:
Wen_tnuocca said:
It’s the same studio who did B:the Beginning. So I’m not holding my breath.


What is that supposed to mean? Production I.G is a high profile studio with an outstanding catalogue of anime.
B: The Beginning is a recent Netflix original series they’ve been working on, and, in my opinion, they were pretty shit.
Aug 14, 2021 9:37 AM

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STOP ATTACHING the studio and VAs by themselves to prove baseless points.

Yes it's Production I.G, yes the character cast of VAs feels stacked, but if the story is to be make-believe, then like Jouran: Princess of Snow and Blood, this is gonna fail.

And also, this is the first Crunchyroll Original under the Cartoon Network "Adult Swim" programming block, so fingers crossed if the product is to be any good This is a fully U.S. funded project rather than letting Japan have dibs on it.
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KANLen09 said:
STOP ATTACHING the studio and VAs by themselves to prove baseless points.

Yes it's Production I.G, yes the character cast of VAs feels stacked, but if the story is to be make-believe, then like Jouran: Princess of Snow and Blood, this is gonna fail.

And also, this is the first Crunchyroll Original under the Cartoon Network "Adult Swim" programming block, so fingers crossed if the product is to be any good This is a fully U.S. funded project rather than letting Japan have dibs on it.


What do you mean by "make-believe" exactly in this context?
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KANLen09 said:
STOP ATTACHING the studio and VAs by themselves to prove baseless points.

Yes it's Production I.G, yes the character cast of VAs feels stacked, but if the story is to be make-believe, then like Jouran: Princess of Snow and Blood, this is gonna fail.

And also, this is the first Crunchyroll Original under the Cartoon Network "Adult Swim" programming block, so fingers crossed if the product is to be any good This is a fully U.S. funded project rather than letting Japan have dibs on it.


What do you mean by "make-believe" exactly in this context?
The story duh, if it doesn't work out the way it does. Sounds like to me that you haven't been watching anime for quite sometime so obviously you won't get the context.
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KANLen09 said:
The story duh, if it doesn't work out the way it does. Sounds like to me that you haven't been watching anime for quite sometime so obviously you won't get the context.


Do you speak English as a first language? I'm not asking this sarcastically or intending to be insulting. I genuinely don't understand your original sentence I quoted nor your response as written.

And what do you mean by I "haven't been watching anime for quite some time"? I've been watching it for almost five years now and am watching various series currently.
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KANLen09 said:
The story duh, if it doesn't work out the way it does. Sounds like to me that you haven't been watching anime for quite sometime so obviously you won't get the context.


Do you speak English as a first language? I'm not asking this sarcastically or intending to be insulting. I genuinely don't understand your original sentence I quoted nor your response as written.

And what do you mean by I "haven't been watching anime for quite some time"? I've been watching it for almost five years now and am watching various series currently.
n simple language: if the story and plot doesn't hold up as well a.k.a the writers had ideas but mish-mashed them because they thought that it could work as the final product, then there's no coherence and consistency of the show being good. Also genuinely asking, can you understand?

Sorry, I should have rephrased my sentence more clearly: you haven't been watching anime seasonally, that's why it feels to me that you're out of touch with recent anime.
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KANLen09 said:
n simple language: if the story and plot doesn't hold up as well a.k.a the writers had ideas but mish-mashed them because they thought that it could work as the final product, then there's no coherence and consistency of the show being good. Also genuinely asking, can you understand?


I understand now. I was taken aback because "make-believe" is usually used to mean fictional, but I didn't get the intended meaning in its usage here as most, if not all anime would be based on a fictional premise and story.

KANLen09 said:
Sorry, I should have rephrased my sentence more clearly: you haven't been watching anime seasonally, that's why it feels to me that you're out of touch with recent anime.


I am actually watching six seasonal series currently (and Kaizoku Oujo will make the seventh) and watched a whopping 15 from last season, more currently airing seasonals than I had ever watched before; Jouran just happened to not be one of them.
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Hope they wont ruin it like Noblesse or The God of High School. But I still have some hope because Tower of God and Tonikaku Kawaii isnt got ruin. So sure, will check this out. This is an original, so IDK what to hope.
Funny how Netflix is being called an “anime destroyer” for like 4 year I believe and now Crunchyroll have that mark too bruh. But not every Crunchyroll or Netflix Original is bad TBH. In fact, some of them are good or amazing. Like Tower of God & Tonikaku Kawaii for Crunchyroll. Violet Evergarden, Great Pretender, Beastars,… for Netflix.
Violet Evergarden is not a Netflix anime. They are not involved with the production of Violet Evergarden in anyway.
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Swagernator said:
Another one of those big project anime shows with money, staff, big foreign investor name, "we all put our hearts into making it" words that'll be forgotten two weeks after finishing airing.

VAs and Kajiura cant save the day this time.

/spit


AbelNhom said:
In fact, some of them are good or amazing. Like Tower of God & Tonikaku Kawaii for Crunchyroll. Violet Evergarden, Great Pretender, Beastars,… for Netflix.


Tower of God - "Im so sick of Japanese generic trash every season, its time for chinese masterpiece take place" ...
Tonikaku Kawaii - "Im a lonely man and i wish for cute, shy, OwO kawaii desu girly girl wifey" ...
Violet Evergarden - "Cute girl sad, me sad, me cry, me slap 10/10 on it"
Beastars - ...

But then again that's just my opinion :) So what do i know really.
Tower of God is a Korean Manwha and not chineese. Atleast know what you are talking about before you shit on it. But then again what do you know really.
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Swagernator said:
Another one of those big project anime shows with money, staff, big foreign investor name, "we all put our hearts into making it" words that'll be forgotten two weeks after finishing airing.

VAs and Kajiura cant save the day this time.

/spit


AbelNhom said:
In fact, some of them are good or amazing. Like Tower of God & Tonikaku Kawaii for Crunchyroll. Violet Evergarden, Great Pretender, Beastars,… for Netflix.


Tower of God - "Im so sick of Japanese generic trash every season, its time for chinese masterpiece take place" ...
Tonikaku Kawaii - "Im a lonely man and i wish for cute, shy, OwO kawaii desu girly girl wifey" ...
Violet Evergarden - "Cute girl sad, me sad, me cry, me slap 10/10 on it"
Beastars - ...

But then again that's just my opinion :) So what do i know really.

Spot on!


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