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Nov 6, 2019 9:44 AM
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Wow so Eren brought everyone in the Paths Realm

Also Colossal Titans are marching to destroy the world and look at Eren's Titan form.






Nov 6, 2019 9:46 AM
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> What am I to you?
> You are family

Somehow, I'm not surprised to hear that. Eren also made his point crystal clear this chapter.
Nov 6, 2019 9:57 AM
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Eren/Hitler/Thanos did nothing wrong (genocide is good? lol)

its kill or be killed situation anyway and Eren choose to kill the rest of the world that is

damn if only Mikasa did not friendzone Eren things could have gone differently lol

Nov 6, 2019 10:10 AM
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Oh no, we're heading towards "Zero's requiem"

Seeing the gang drink and have fun for the last time (probably) was heartwrenching, especially seeing Sasha!

The last 10 or so pages were drop-dead gorgeous gorgeous

Also, when is Isayama getting nominated for the literature noble prize?

Nov 6, 2019 10:14 AM
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We need the last missing piece to this puzzle, the Eren and Historia encounter, to be completely sure about Eren's plan.
Nov 6, 2019 10:16 AM
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God Damn it, it was really sad to see the gang spending (probably) their last moments together with Eren.

Looks like Eren is dead serious about exterminating everything.

Edit: I forgot to say, Is that a big skeleton of a dinosaur that formed out of Eren's founding titan?
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Nov 6, 2019 10:18 AM
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Now no one can disagree with the fact that Levi is best boi after this chapter.
I thought Eren actually became a good person, but I guess I was wrong eh. But no worries cause Armin is gonna save the day as Eren had already stated that Armin is the saviour of the world.
Nov 6, 2019 10:19 AM
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Marley absolutely deserves their fate, Eren is only acting in self-defence.


is there no limit to killing for the sake of self-defense though? and is there really no alternatives? i was thinking that maybe Eren could have change all the Eldians biology to be of that of normal humans and because the world now has blood test and even DNA test since they made the Ackerman genetically modified anyway then the Eldians will be seen as harmless later on by the rest of the world
Nov 6, 2019 10:28 AM
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WOW! Just WOW! Every chapter seems to get better and better. Isayama is a genius!


Nov 6, 2019 10:31 AM

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Amazing chapter! What the hell was that? It look like some type of dinosaur, also that last panel look dope as hell!
Nov 6, 2019 10:32 AM

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found this gold on reddit

Eren, Chapter 1 - I’m going to slaughter all the titans!
Eren, now - I’m going to slaughter everyone who isn’t a titan!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/dsjuf1/new_chapter_spoilers_chapter_123_release/f6przk4/
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Marley, you get what you ****in deserve
Nov 6, 2019 10:37 AM

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RogueCitizen64 said:
deg said:
is there no limit to killing for the sake of self-defense though? and is there really no alternatives? i was thinking that maybe Eren could have change all the Eldians biology to be of that of normal humans and because the world now has blood test and even DNA test since they made the Ackerman genetically modified anyway then the Eldians will be seen as harmless later on by the rest of the world


They are already seen as harmless, it's why Marley and the rest of the world have the audacity to treat their Eldians population as such. If they knew they would fight back those cowards wouldn't even entertain the thought of antagonising them. By a display of force, Eren is reminding them what Eldians are capable of.


err they are called devils so they are seen as a threat and the rest of the world fear the rumbling? thats why Marley wants the founding titan in the first place?
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Amazing chapter! What the hell was that? It look like some type of dinosaur, also that last panel look dope as hell!
I hope when that panel gets animated, they should play the erenthe coordinate ost it will be perfect.
Nov 6, 2019 10:48 AM

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It's crazy how it is easy to convince people that genocide can be right...

Took only 123 chapters. People who think that Eren is carrying the moral of the story are completely deluded.
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Nov 6, 2019 10:53 AM

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Eren Vi Britannia? I hope not.
Nov 6, 2019 10:57 AM
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This chapter made Eren's motive clear...

That announcement,,, felt like Lelouch.. like the king is commanding. so cool 😎😍

finally Eren's titan face,,, lol too ugly.. might be even larger than Colossal titan,,, probably Ymir's titan size.

Also the moments with Mikasa,,, so cute.
Nov 6, 2019 10:57 AM

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This is just absolute insanity. This manga is too much for me, i get mind blown with every chapter.
Nov 6, 2019 10:59 AM

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It's crazy how it is easy to convince people that genocide can be right...

Took only 123 chapters. People who think that Eren is carrying the moral of the story are completely deluded.


lol if this is how it really ends for this story i can see some controversy on this especially genocide like the neonazi wants is very hot topic today

lets see if Armin can really be the savior like Eren said one time
Nov 6, 2019 11:01 AM
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RogueCitizen64 said:
deg said:
is there no limit to killing for the sake of self-defense though? and is there really no alternatives? i was thinking that maybe Eren could have change all the Eldians biology to be of that of normal humans and because the world now has blood test and even DNA test since they made the Ackerman genetically modified anyway then the Eldians will be seen as harmless later on by the rest of the world


They are already seen as harmless, it's why Marley and the rest of the world have the audacity to treat their Eldians population as such. If they knew they would fight back those cowards wouldn't even entertain the thought of antagonising them. By a display of force, Eren is reminding them what Eldians are capable of.
I completely agree with you!
Nov 6, 2019 11:03 AM
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People who were unhappy about Code Geass Ending might love this even more if Eren doesn’t die.
Nov 6, 2019 11:07 AM

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if this is how it really ends then this story will be seen as a misanthropy (i hate all of humanity besides my Eldian master race kind of story) so its not just simply being a moralfag
Nov 6, 2019 11:13 AM

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Now it seems Eren's gonna lead all those wall titans to destroy everything other than Paradis and it's people...


Loved that flashback/backstory part too
Nov 6, 2019 11:17 AM
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this chapter was fucking incredible
please read shingeki no kyojin
Nov 6, 2019 11:22 AM

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and this freedom plot theme can also be seen as fighting for your freedom means taking away others freedom (like freedom to life)

coexistence is impossible even in fiction lol
Nov 6, 2019 11:27 AM

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Damn Eren......... Am i the only one who gets Zero Requiem feels from Erens plan?
well that's just my opinion.....
Nov 6, 2019 11:28 AM

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I knew it since last chapter that Eren will turn out to be the evil one. He orchestrated everything since the start, even before he was born by influencing all the past attack titans even those before the guy who got his father involved.


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RogueCitizen64 said:
Kilimini said:
It's crazy how it is easy to convince people that genocide can be right...

Took only 123 chapters. People who think that Eren is carrying the moral of the story are completely deluded.


And what alternative do you see? It's either Paradis or the rest of the world. And no I don't think Eren is carrying the moral or anyone else is either. Being a moralfag in this world would mean signing your own death warrant.


As for myself i see no alternative but if i could predict the best manga of the century so far i would write my own lol.

By moral of the story i'm speaking of Snk's purpose, Isayama's message. And so far it's crystal clear, everything is grey, there is no true ennemy but this cruel world, and Eren's plan doesn't fit this message so it's 100% sure it's going to get challenged/denied by Armin/Reiner.
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Nov 6, 2019 11:33 AM

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It's kind of disappointing that the story is taking a familiar path of "MC goes all dark side/rage mode vs the world"; it's already obvious that he'll be "convinced" to stop mid-way through the carnage, by Armin or Mikasa; or might even be killed, like Lelouch. Predictable...
Nov 6, 2019 11:35 AM

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deg said:
Kilimini said:
It's crazy how it is easy to convince people that genocide can be right...

Took only 123 chapters. People who think that Eren is carrying the moral of the story are completely deluded.


lol if this is how it really ends for this story i can see some controversy on this especially genocide like the neonazi wants is very hot topic today

lets see if Armin can really be the savior like Eren said one time


Isayma would never settle for an ending like this, mikasa's thoughts at the begining of the chapter are adressed to the readers who are still in love with ereh. Don't get me wrong he's an amazing charachter, extremely well written, but right now he is closer to being the main antagonist than anything and you could see it in the last panel. The monstruosity of his soul often is reflected itself on his face.
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It's kind of disappointing that the story is taking a familiar path of "MC goes all dark side/rage mode vs the world"; it's already obvious that he'll be "convinced" to stop mid-way through the carnage, by Armin or Mikasa; or might even be killed, like Lelouch. Predictable...



You are making assumptions buddy, Snk's story is anything but obvious
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Nov 6, 2019 11:38 AM

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Kilimini said:
deg said:


lol if this is how it really ends for this story i can see some controversy on this especially genocide like the neonazi wants is very hot topic today

lets see if Armin can really be the savior like Eren said one time


Isayma would never settle for an ending like this, mikasa's thoughts at the begining of the chapter are adressed to the readers who are still in love with ereh. Don't get me wrong he's an amazing charachter, extremely well written, but right now he is closer to being the main antagonist than anything and you could see it in the last panel. The monstruosity of his soul often is reflected itself on his face.


I agree with you, but I still feel that we're gonna get one more Eren twist.

There's a reason of why they're hiding the last Eren and Historia conversation.
Nov 6, 2019 11:42 AM

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@Kilimini

You are making assumptions buddy, Snk's story is anything but obvious

Guess we'll have to WAIT and see...

@cAbaddon
I agree with you, but I still feel that we're gonna get one more Eren twist.

There's a reason of why they're hiding the last Eren and Historia conversation.
Hopefully it's not Lelouch kind of "i became the worst evil and my defeat shall bring true peace to the world" ending...
Nov 6, 2019 11:47 AM

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It would seem that the straw that broke the camels back for Eren was the international forum, where a group of people who were Subjects of Ymir on the mainland and purported to help their people, even disregarded those who lived on the Island as Devils and should be seen as the enemy. It's understandable that he would want to protect everyone but his own people on the island when even his own race think so little of them.

What didn't make sense to me was that Eren seemed quite willing to kill every single person not on the Island without hesitation, and yet sympathized with the family on the mainland because their situation mirrored his own. Ironically, the rumbling will end up killing them as well.

Nice to see Mikasa getting a little more focus and development in this chapter, as she's been criminally underused throughout the last 20 chapters or so.


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@Kilimini

You are making assumptions buddy, Snk's story is anything but obvious

Guess we'll have to WAIT and see...

@cAbaddon
I agree with you, but I still feel that we're gonna get one more Eren twist.

There's a reason of why they're hiding the last Eren and Historia conversation.
Hopefully it's not Lelouch kind of "i became the worst evil and my defeat shall bring true peace to the world" ending...


I don't see anything bad about a more serious and elaborated version of that ending.

But what kind of ending would satisfy you?
Nov 6, 2019 11:51 AM

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Sure I'd give you Reiner trying to stop Eren but Armin? No, he convinced everyone to back Eren when they were in the prison and now he again told Mikasa that Eren was on their side. I don't get why the fandom is obsessed with the idea of Armin as a some soft mediator inclining towards peace.

Because this is the biggest foreshadowing of this story

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cAbaddon said:
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Isayma would never settle for an ending like this, mikasa's thoughts at the begining of the chapter are adressed to the readers who are still in love with ereh. Don't get me wrong he's an amazing charachter, extremely well written, but right now he is closer to being the main antagonist than anything and you could see it in the last panel. The monstruosity of his soul often is reflected itself on his face.


I agree with you, but I still feel that we're gonna get one more Eren twist.

There's a reason of why they're hiding the last Eren and Historia conversation.


I share your opinion, i think it will add nuance, but it's unlikely that it will turn his goal upside down , the story needs conflict to advance and Eren is the only one who can create it right now.

@RogueCitizen64

He said that before realizing that Eren plans to genocide the world.
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Nov 6, 2019 12:01 PM

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Mikasa was so cute in that ice-cream scene. This was a great chapter from start to finish tbh and I can't wait for more.
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Nov 6, 2019 12:06 PM

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RogueCitizen64 said:
cAbaddon said:
Because this is the biggest foreshadow of this plot



Again why do you people have this distorted idea that Armin is somehow on the warriors's side? He may have doubted Eren but both in the prison and just now in this chapter he has ultimately taken Eren's side. Unlike the fandom, he is aware that while Eren might be Marley's target atm their final goal is the demise of every single resident of Paradise.


I don't think he's taken the warriors side, but he's just not completely au fait with Eren's course of action either. He was initially onboard in this chapter when the walls of Shinganshina started collapsing because he thought Eren was sending only a small number titans across to Marley to defeat the Allied Forces.

Only when Wall Maria collapsed did he realise that Eren had something much bigger planned. I'm not sure Armin wants to genocide the entire planet.
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RogueCitizen64 said:
cAbaddon said:
Because this is the biggest foreshadow of this plot



Again why do you people have this distorted idea that Armin is somehow on the warriors's side? He may have doubted Eren but both in the prison and just now in this chapter he has ultimately taken Eren's side. Unlike the fandom, he is aware that while Eren might be Marley's target atm their final goal is the demise of every single resident of Paradise.


Nah being against the world genocide isn't the same as being on the warriors side. i think that Armin's philosophy contrasts a lot with Eren's. Armin is all about discovering the wonders of the world that's why he is moving forward, while you could make a case to say that Eren is using freedom to satisfy his bloodlust.

If you are a french speaker i would suggest to you to watch this video giving some insght on Eren's charachter ( contains also some bullshit lol).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iazgkihEHF4&t=1s
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Nov 6, 2019 12:07 PM
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Another great chapter. I actually didn't link about Code Geass until reading this fourm. Personally I'm hoping it go a different direction than Zero Requiem. That ending took me a long time to come to terms with and I like this protagonist is the ultimate villain angle.

That said I'm expecting at least one or two twists before this series ends.

Side note: Personally I don't ship Mikasa & Eren but I'm glad they took this route that allows fans to interpret it as they want.
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@Kilimini

You are making assumptions buddy, Snk's story is anything but obvious

Guess we'll have to WAIT and see...

@cAbaddon
I agree with you, but I still feel that we're gonna get one more Eren twist.

There's a reason of why they're hiding the last Eren and Historia conversation.
Hopefully it's not Lelouch kind of "i became the worst evil and my defeat shall bring true peace to the world" ending...


That is the thing, his defeat will not bring peace to the world. The rest of the world will definitely want to eradicate everyone inside paradis. That is the complicating situation they are in.
Nov 6, 2019 12:15 PM

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Seeing the survey corps having fun together was adorable, but that clown, AND THE DAMN CARROT- lmao i can't with them
The kid from Eren's memories also appeared, that's one less 'mistery'.

Uhm.. but I'm confused as hell ngl. Eren's character has a lot of contradictions.
He seems to value life by all the "born in this world" speeches he's been making, but in the end it seems like he really went with full rumble and that will kill much more people than it would with Zeke's plan. I wonder if we'll only be able to see his pov at the very end..
I'm all for it because that makes things more interesting though, and honestly i can't really blame Eren even if genocide's clearly a bad thing.

And that talk with Mikasa could have either have been Eren wanting to hear a "i love you" by her (doubt it because he hasn't show interest in her but still), or to feel loved by someone in the world and like he matters. This theory comes to mind when thinking about that hypothesis.
If not that, it could also be something else related to the supposed ackerbond.

Anyway.. dear lord, what happened to Eren's face in the last panel??
Nov 6, 2019 12:18 PM

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Also i think that this is Historia holding her belly in this image.

https://imgur.com/a/Pe7igv7
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Someone clear me this
Did eren really destroy the outside world?
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Holy... sh*tbucket...
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Guys guys, stop putting Mikasa friendzoning Eren any weight to it, it was him who friendzone her whole series.

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Marley absolutely deserves their fate, Eren is only acting in self-defence.


is there no limit to killing for the sake of self-defense though? and is there really no alternatives? i was thinking that maybe Eren could have change all the Eldians biology to be of that of normal humans and because the world now has blood test and even DNA test since they made the Ackerman genetically modified anyway then the Eldians will be seen as harmless later on by the rest of the world


I mean, do you really see that as option after previous chapter? Mabye you forgot but I remember because I always re-read it, but that world is horrible and Ymir is freaking pissed being slave for 2000 years. Peace was never an option.
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Both your arguments rest on possibilities rather than anything concrete. As it stands Armin took Eren side twice so far and Armin isn't some innocent cinnamon roll type either, the uprising arc shows us perfectly that he knows when it's time to get his hands dirty. Also Armin isn't an idiot, like I said, he knows that stopping Eren would mean Marley steamrolling through and killing everyone in Paradis.


... and Eren has pointed out that since Armin ingested Bertoldt back in Shinganshina, he's been less decisive and more hesitant when following push comes to shove. He's also demonstrated throughout the last 30 or so chapters a more diplomatic approach in trying to resolve matters, rather than all-out conflict.

So while he understands what needs to be done when weighing up the options and the consequences of an allied forces attack against an attack against the rest of the world, he's a far gentler soul than Eren is with an completely different outlook on the world. It's no surprise that he finds himself somewhere in the middle and not at the extremes like Eren and the Allied Forces do. Hence why he would have preferred Eren let loose enough titans to defeat only the allied forces on Marley, not the rest of the entire planet.



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Well it is going to be all over very soon. It is only the matter of time. To want to kill or destroy everything seems a bit too much. If the wanted to destroy Marley I can understand that. However, I guess that is not the case. Going to put an end to this world? Wow. Genocide outside the island. He will destroy the world.
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Yet again another amazing chapter.
I honestly don't know where this will end now, Armin definitely does not agree with the whole world's genocide plan. If this goes zero requiem way, then Eren will be defeated and then the whole world will come to kill the paradise people and if Eren succeeds then the entire world will be wiped out. Genocide of the whole world, well I don't agree with that plan. Could it be Eren has not revealed his true intentions yet? He definitely doesn't think everyone outside are evil or deserves to die. He said it himself people inside the walls, people outside the walls are all same.
His interaction with Historia is also to be revealed and can play a major game-changer if at all any unforseen twist is yet to be revealed.

Isayama had not made Reiner suffer so much for no reason at all. And that foreshadowing that Armin will be the one to save humanity. I think both of those two are going to have a big role in the ending.

Also, I hope the royal blood mess will be given a proper explanation in the future chapters as there was nothing about it in this chapter.
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