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Aug 11, 2017 5:44 AM
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I mean, at least it pushes Gintama down a peg (Because no matter how good an anime is, it's not worth sitting through the 40 episodes it takes to get good). I guess we should really take issue with how MAL weighs sequels equally against first entries in a series, even though by this point in the franchise, the viewer-base been wittled down to die-hard fans by sheer volume of episodes
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Aug 11, 2017 5:49 AM
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Recently released stuff is generally rated high by fans, especially sequels.
Additionally it's a longrunning show and people who don't like the Monogatari series drop it early so they won't even get to rate such sequels.
To get a more reliable score give it at least a year until a broader audience got to watch it.
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Aug 11, 2017 5:50 AM
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Sequels tend to have extremely inflated scores. Not that MAL is willing to do anything about it.
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Aug 11, 2017 5:52 AM
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Sequels tend to have extremely inflated scores. Not that MAL is willing to do anything about it.
Except capping the scores at the score of the earliest released entry in the series, that presents its own issues but at least it's not this (Not that I'm complaining about anything in the monogatari series getting a high score)
Aug 11, 2017 5:56 AM
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Tenderizer17 said:
MortalMelancholy said:
Sequels tend to have extremely inflated scores. Not that MAL is willing to do anything about it.
Except capping the scores at the score of the earliest released entry in the series, that presents its own issues but at least it's not this (Not that I'm complaining about anything in the monogatari series getting a high score)

Single continuous series should just have one rating entry, regardless of number of seasons.
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Aug 11, 2017 5:58 AM
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MortalMelancholy said:
Tenderizer17 said:
Except capping the scores at the score of the earliest released entry in the series, that presents its own issues but at least it's not this (Not that I'm complaining about anything in the monogatari series getting a high score)

Single continuous series should just have one rating entry, regardless of number of seasons.


Problem comes with things such as haruhi suzumiya where the second season was basically wasting time, and fate series where they are fundamentally different
Aug 11, 2017 6:04 AM
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I mean, at least it pushes Gintama down a peg (Because no matter how good an anime is, it's not worth sitting through the 40 episodes it takes to get good).


What a dumb shit post, wow. But yea, continue crying over meaningless ratings.
Aug 11, 2017 6:14 AM
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I mean, it's gonna go down obviously. Just gotta wait for it to air.
Aug 11, 2017 6:17 AM
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Wait, what? third greatest anime of all time? Not even aired? Based on a score from MAL? Get out. Now.

It will literally go down by 0.5 to 1 point in few episodes.
Aug 11, 2017 6:18 AM

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MortalMelancholy said:
Sequels tend to have extremely inflated scores. Not that MAL is willing to do anything about it.


They don't need to do anything.

Aug 11, 2017 7:19 AM

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Wait, what? third greatest anime of all time? Not even aired? Based on a score from MAL? Get out. Now.

It will literally go down by 0.5 to 1 point in few episodes.

I highly doubt it. I know what it's about and if Shaft will do as excellent job as usually, it deserves its place. Of course, you cannot decide which anime is the best just from MAL score, that's bullshit. Some are overrated and some may be underrated. But this one will be masterpiece.
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Aug 11, 2017 7:43 AM

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>Greatest

Pffftt OP pls the sarcasm is killing right the heck of me.xD

Rating is completely a biased Boiiii.. don't relied on them too easily




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Aug 11, 2017 11:52 AM
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Can ougi-kun/chan, beat kimi no nawa to #1 ? or gintama to #2 or just have #3 place?
Aug 11, 2017 2:15 PM

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ZeroAXL said:
Can ougi-kun/chan, beat kimi no nawa to #1 ? or gintama to #2 or just have #3 place?

FMAB will eventually retake the throne at #1
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TheArchangels said:
ZeroAXL said:
Can ougi-kun/chan, beat kimi no nawa to #1 ? or gintama to #2 or just have #3 place?

FMAB will eventually retake the throne at #1


Def at the rate Your Name is dropping
Aug 11, 2017 3:06 PM

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It wo'nt beat ki mi no na wa. Or the upcoming season of Gin ta ma.
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Aug 11, 2017 3:07 PM

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TJHooker said:
TheArchangels said:

FMAB will eventually retake the throne at #1


Def at the rate Your Name is dropping


Don't worry the next season the new Gintama season will be the new #1 on MAL.
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Aug 11, 2017 3:28 PM
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Don't make threads like this. It leads to people rating the anime badly for no reason
Aug 11, 2017 4:11 PM

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Hyped sequel gets really high 9+ score from fans before they even see the first episode. Haven't seen that happen before...
Aug 11, 2017 4:54 PM
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mehmehperson said:
TJHooker said:


Def at the rate Your Name is dropping


Don't worry the next season the new Gintama season will be the new #1 on MAL.
Until it gets downvoted back :/
Aug 11, 2017 4:56 PM

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I rated OwariMonogatari season 2 as a 10 on MAL, and I suggest everyone do the same. Because if it gets to number one, maybe MAL will heed the message and fix the rating systems handling of second seasons.
Aug 11, 2017 4:58 PM

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The MAL rankings are always wrong. This is proven by iDOLM@STER and Love Live not being in the top 2.
Aug 11, 2017 5:20 PM

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Romeo said:
Tenderizer17 said:
I mean, at least it pushes Gintama down a peg (Because no matter how good an anime is, it's not worth sitting through the 40 episodes it takes to get good).


What a dumb shit post, wow. But yea, continue crying over meaningless ratings.


shittama fanboy i assume? Why so mad when someone says the truth about that overrated series? :d
Aug 11, 2017 5:31 PM

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MAL hasn't updated the rankings yet but Owarimonogatari has a score of 9.14 while Gintama has a score of 9.20 and Steins;Gate with a scored of 9.15, so it's currently the 5th greatest anime of all time.
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Aug 11, 2017 5:37 PM

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Here we go again..

The ranking system on MAL needs a serious overhaul If it's meant to be taken seriously. Oh well.
Aug 11, 2017 5:54 PM

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The MAL rankings are always wrong. This is proven by iDOLM@STER and Love Live not being in the top 2.

Take out Love Live! and I would actually be satisfied with the list (what's ironic is the fact everything related to Love Live! is in the Top 10s' of Japan's Top 100 Anime, that fact still makes me think the international community has better taste despite "over-hyped" rankings of series that haven't even aired yet)

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Aug 11, 2017 6:04 PM

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Just wait till it finish airing, then complain
Aug 11, 2017 6:14 PM
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actually watch the monogatari series then complain
Aug 11, 2017 7:39 PM

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Yasuhito said:
Here we go again..

The ranking system on MAL needs a serious overhaul If it's meant to be taken seriously. Oh well.
It's just because not everyone has rated it yet. Chill. People usually rate after it finishes airing
Aug 11, 2017 9:12 PM

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SkullProX said:
Romeo said:


What a dumb shit post, wow. But yea, continue crying over meaningless ratings.


shittama fanboy i assume? Why so mad when someone says the truth about that overrated series? :d
Actually, it was good from even the early days(Past the 10's), and the First 40 Episodes is like barely 10% of the series anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE4pjVXaY3o
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Aug 11, 2017 9:14 PM

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Tenderizer17 said:
I mean, at least it pushes Gintama down a peg (Because no matter how good an anime is, it's not worth sitting through the 40 episodes it takes to get good). I guess we should really take issue with how MAL weighs sequels equally against first entries in a series, even though by this point in the franchise, the viewer-base been wittled down to die-hard fans by sheer volume of episodes
Actually, it was good from even the early days(Past the 10's), and the First 40 Episodes is like barely 10% of the series anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE4pjVXaY3o
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Aug 11, 2017 10:16 PM

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How Owarimonogatari get 3rd place with 9.12 ?
Wait it dropped t 9.11 already . FMAB fanboys defend it spot scoring 1s like always
Aug 11, 2017 10:19 PM

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SkullProX said:
Romeo said:


What a dumb shit post, wow. But yea, continue crying over meaningless ratings.


shittama fanboy i assume? Why so mad when someone says the truth about that overrated series? :d

How is Gintama shit and overrated ? Yes it start slowly but it become a unique anime . People who dropped the anime lately come back watching it . If you want shit and overrated that Fairy Tail
Aug 11, 2017 10:59 PM
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It's all about taste, we can't impose our will. Maybe you think this anime isn't so good. But to me this is a very remarkable story if we understand this story from the beginning.
For example, I think Kimi no Na wa is an anime that isn't so interesting. But some people, it may be interesting, so the anime is ranked 1, in fact I prefer FMAB than that.
So maybe it's about Owarimonogatari, try first you watch, after that, it doesnt matter if you think it's an anime less interesting. But most people give a score 1 to an anime because that anime's score is higher than his favorite anime, even though he hasnt watched the anime he gave score 1. that's why that anime's score goes down for now and maybe the next time i think.
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mehmehperson said:
TJHooker said:


Def at the rate Your Name is dropping


Don't worry the next season the new Gintama season will be the new #1 on MAL.


Yeah if you watch that far into the show you probably think it's a ten.
Aug 11, 2017 11:29 PM
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It's just pre release hype and hate. People are either arbitrarily rating it a 10 or 1
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TJHooker said:
TheArchangels said:

FMAB will eventually retake the throne at #1


Def at the rate Your Name is dropping


And even more definitely with the rate at FMA: B is rising (do any other anime actually rise in ratings over time?)
Aug 12, 2017 12:40 AM

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Every rating system is exactly like this. Upon release especially the first day the rating will always be extremely inflated as no one has really seen it and its just fans pumping up the score. Its funny people are acting like MAL's rating system is at fault.

Yasuhito said:
Here we go again..

The ranking system on MAL needs a serious overhaul If it's meant to be taken seriously. Oh well.
Aug 12, 2017 3:35 AM

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Tenderizer17 said:
I mean, at least it pushes Gintama down a peg (Because no matter how good an anime is, it's not worth sitting through the 40 episodes it takes to get good). I guess we should really take issue with how MAL weighs sequels equally against first entries in a series, even though by this point in the franchise, the viewer-base been wittled down to die-hard fans by sheer volume of episodes

40? How about 300 something, unless you're planning to begin at the end? And anyway, Gintama has some of the funniest scenes, first few seasons at least...
Aug 12, 2017 4:02 AM
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it way too fast to judge man. it will go down
you know that Monogatari series has big pro con fans.
don't get me wrong, I'm monogatari fanboy too
Aug 12, 2017 8:50 AM

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it just came out so the only ones watching it is monogatari-fans.
given time less-hardcore fans will be giving it lower ratings
Aug 12, 2017 11:33 AM
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Don't make threads like this. It leads to people rating the anime badly for no reason

That's exactly correct. You can already see a considerable amount of 1s, even though pretty much nobody would normally rate Monogatari Series that. Even if you look at the surface level stuff like animation, backgrounds and soundtrack you pretty much have to agree that it's at least decent or good, even if you hate the series with burning passion.
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Tenderizer17 said:
I mean, at least it pushes Gintama down a peg (Because no matter how good an anime is, it's not worth sitting through the 40 episodes it takes to get good). I guess we should really take issue with how MAL weighs sequels equally against first entries in a series, even though by this point in the franchise, the viewer-base been wittled down to die-hard fans by sheer volume of episodes




lol yeah, it's the fans who are the problem and not the shitheads who rate 1

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Aug 13, 2017 12:04 PM
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Top 3 anime? Monogatari series? It's not even top 3 anime made by Shinbou Akiyuki, lol.
Aug 14, 2017 8:30 PM
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now its top 2 le kek
Aug 14, 2017 8:41 PM

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I want to believe. It would be great if the Monogatari series ended with such a large bang.
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Inb4 FMA Brotherhood fans give Owarimonogatari 1.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Aug 14, 2017 9:22 PM
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the score for fma brotherhood hasn't even flinched in over a year so it won't be there for long
Aug 14, 2017 10:26 PM
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It is a good show. For sheer animation, art and sound it'd be a 2-3. 1 is impossible for Monogatari if you're being honest.

As for highly rating it, I'm not sure you're right about monogatari fans blindly giving a 10. Monogatari is a very esoteric show so the fans who watched this far are the kind of people who will analyze it in-depth- most fans.

And the thing about Monogatari in general is that it's not a show for everyone. Bake and nise are palatable for people because they go more in favor of fanservice and b harem stuff. Those seasons aren't too esoteric or cerebral. After nise, the show goes way further with the subtext, hidden messages, and mind-twisting. If you like that kind of story, it's an easy 10 and objectively, the pay-off of owari 2 is flawless.

The thing that brings it down is because it is a mental challenge to get this far for that sweet payoff. You need to concentrate to understand everything
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And the thing about Monogatari in general is that it's not a show for everyone.

Monogatari series is probably one of the most "for everyone" show from what Shinbou Akiyuki did.
That's why it's so highly rated. Also you are overrating it depth since all it "depth" comes from long and mostly useless dialogues written by Nisio Isin. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad series at all, but it is that highly rated because it's trying to show itself as "deep" show while being pretty simple city fantasy in reality, so people can think "wow, I'm so good, I understand monogatari series" while there are not that much to understand actually.
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