| So, I thought of a somewhat controversial/absurd proposition: Should teachers (of children, of course) be armed? Why, or why not? Teachers would of course receive proper training on how to wield and use a gun prior to be licensed to carry one. Guns would only be used in extreme cases, and for the most part, their presence would (hopefully) just act as "deterrents" to school shootings or other acts of violence. Some pros and cons to this argument: Pros: -Arming teachers could lead to safer schools. -Not all schools have police readily available to protect them. -Teachers need "protection" just as much as students. Cons: -Children are impressionable. -Guns in schools might be used in circumstances other than defence. -Children would be caught in the crossfire, if any school shootings were to occur. -How could arming teachers be regulated? Converse and debate |
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| They should be supplied with grenades, flash grenades, smoke grenades, automatic rifles, bullet resistant armour, rocket propelled grenades, and armoured personel carriers. That'll make school just the bit more exciting, don't you think? ^^ -Children would be caught in the crossfire, if any school shootings were to occur. Not being armed is a worse situation as they have nothing to fight back with. Ofcourse running for cover is the best option but when you can take down the perpetrator, you should do so ASAP to prevent more casualties right? |
| Oh sure give them knifes and tasers while your at it. |
| yes, and the students should be given mandatory lessons on how to use weapons as well as be armed too. |
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| I don't think giving teachers guns would make the school any safer. Better answer would be to have some sort of security guards patrolling the school, but of course that might not be very easy to arrange. |
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| Yes, teachers should be armed. Those emo kids in HS are too unpredictable. Fucking emo kids..... |
| Vishnu was trying to persuade the prince to do his duty, so to impress him he took on his multi armed form and said now I become death, the destroyer of worlds. |
| If the goal is to maximize the number of school shootings, then yes. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Might as well arm the students, just in case the teacher goes berserk. |
| In America? Sure because everyone can carry a fucking gun. In anywhere else? Fuck that shit |
| armed teachers are useless. just open the door in the middle of the lecture and shoot the teacher first. a good way would be to make it illegal for children and teenagers to undergo training with weapons just a retard american would give children weapons... |
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Nigami_Shin said: armed teachers are useless. just open the door in the middle of the lecture and shoot the teacher first. a good way would be to make it illegal for children and teenagers to undergo training with weapons just a retard american would give children weapons... To be fair, she is pretty damn good.. |
| Is this a joke OP, or are you actually serious? |
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| Of course this is a wonderful idea, then we could all be like this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre |
| I've been here way too long... |
| am pretty sure there is a anime out there somewhere with teachers having guns and stuff |
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| Only our armed forces and police should have assault weapons and handguns to protect and serve. I don't wanna hear how ideally Mr Jinkers in math class would protect and serve my kid with guns. Oh give the caretakers guns to incase someone runs into the playground at lunch while the teachers are marking paperwork. Hello students. It's good to see you again |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
Nightwing said: Is this a joke OP, or are you actually serious? Let's just say, I primarily enjoy participating in the MAL forums for a bit of light entertainment whenever I've got nothing better to do. I'm sure I've said this in a previous thread, but I often like casually discarding boxes of ammo, and then sitting back and watching other people firing the ammunition against each other. The chaos is brilliant. You guys are just too hilarious. |
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| Aighty, we will give you your weapons! Sure, most, if not, all of you are untrained with these weapons but nevermind that. SnugglyWhuggly said: I'm sure I've said this in a previous thread, but I often like casually discarding boxes of ammo, and then sitting back and watching other people firing the ammunition against each other. The chaos is brilliant. You guys are just too hilarious. OP, are you the new bait poster of the forums? |
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| Because being an armed law enforcement is part of a teacher's job description. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
SnugglyWhuggly said: Nightwing said: Is this a joke OP, or are you actually serious? Let's just say, I primarily enjoy participating in the MAL forums for a bit of light entertainment whenever I've got nothing better to do. I'm sure I've said this in a previous thread, but I often like casually discarding boxes of ammo, and then sitting back and watching other people firing the ammunition against each other. The chaos is brilliant. You guys are just too hilarious. Wow That's a type of baiting eh Not sure what the point of making threads is then |
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Nightwing said: SnugglyWhuggly said: Let's just say, I primarily enjoy participating in the MAL forums for a bit of light entertainment whenever I've got nothing better to do. I'm sure I've said this in a previous thread, but I often like casually discarding boxes of ammo, and then sitting back and watching other people firing the ammunition against each other. The chaos is brilliant. You guys are just too hilarious. Wow That's a type of baiting eh Not sure what the point of making threads is then To hope people will post something that will make you marginally less bored than otherwise...? |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
Veneficia said: Probably because shootings aren't all that common taken from 1 person's school life?You know what let me ask a question here @malers Did y'all ever have campus police? I did all through elementary - HS and guess what no school shooting! :0 |
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| Not necessarily. Sure teachers who have arms may teach better but we shouldn't disadvantage the disabled, who's to say that they couldn't be good teachers without any arms. Teachers without legs though? Thats not possible. |
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| This actually made me giggle. Like, u serious? |
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| After the 2014 Peshawar school massacre, which resulted in about 150 deaths (mostly children), Pakistan allowed teachers to carry firearms and provided them with training. Then there was another attack last month at a university. At least 22 people died, but one armed teacher saved a few of his students by firing on the attackers, though he was killed himself. |
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| Mordern day Students behave like Criminals with no respect for authority so I don't see why not |
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| um no. if teachers are in danger, then money should be invested into implementing security systems so no one can bring weapons into schools. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| Guns shouldn't be allowed on school grounds in any form. |
Veneficia said: shuryukan said: Probably because shootings aren't all that common taken from 1 person's school life? school shootings didn't happen because of the officers I can't tell if you're joking or not. |
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| Whaat? i dont see how giving them weapons would make them feel safer |
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Veneficia said: sorry let me phrase myself better A school shooting never occurred at any of the schools I went to yet there were officers there anyways and if someone tried to they were there ready to protect us just in case. Usually all they did was drug bust. I answered like this because you insinuated or just didn't phrase your words right(?) that I have experienced a school shooting? oh well No, I replied to you, because what you were saying implied that you had no shootings because there were officers. That's a fallacy. You didn't experience any shootings, and there just so happened to also be officers. I didn't insinuate at all that you have experienced a school shooting. You explained it properly this time though. I wasn't entirely sure if you were going for satire or actually believing that having officers was the direct cause of not having shootings. For example, I've never experienced a school shooting, and there have been no officers at the schools I attended, and in other cases, there have been shootings in schools where there have been officers. |
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| No this is stupid, this would probably lead to other situations; teaches uses their guns not to protect but to attack. |
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Nightwing said: SnugglyWhuggly said: Let's just say, I primarily enjoy participating in the MAL forums for a bit of light entertainment whenever I've got nothing better to do. I'm sure I've said this in a previous thread, but I often like casually discarding boxes of ammo, and then sitting back and watching other people firing the ammunition against each other. The chaos is brilliant. You guys are just too hilarious. Wow That's a type of baiting eh Not sure what the point of making threads is then Not really, if I wanted to bait, I'd just go for the more obvious and simple kind. I like to make controversial topics, but ones where there's at least something to be discussed. By your logic, nothing controversial should ever be brought up or discussed, because it's "baiting". The "point" of making threads is for discussion. Also, @Nightwing, this is a bit off-topic, but I'm curious, you seem to be rather out of character of late. You've turned from baiter/shitposter to pseudo-pseudo-intellectual. I'm wondering how you went from stuff like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1451987 To this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1481060 |
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| Might risk the lives of the administration, children and especially the parents. lol |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
shuryukan said: Veneficia said: sorry let me phrase myself better A school shooting never occurred at any of the schools I went to yet there were officers there anyways and if someone tried to they were there ready to protect us just in case. Usually all they did was drug bust. I answered like this because you insinuated or just didn't phrase your words right(?) that I have experienced a school shooting? oh well No, I replied to you, because what you were saying implied that you had no shootings because there were officers. That's a fallacy. You didn't experience any shootings, and there just so happened to also be officers. I didn't insinuate at all that you have experienced a school shooting. You explained it properly this time though. I wasn't entirely sure if you were going for satire or actually believing that having officers was the direct cause of not having shootings. For example, I've never experienced a school shooting, and there have been no officers at the schools I attended, and in other cases, there have been shootings in schools where there have been officers. My bad then fam here is a meme I'm liking |
| you won't find many people more pro-gun then me, but i do not think teachers should have guns. they are teachers, the duty to potentially kill should not be in their contract. Although i do think schools should have armed guards. the high school i attend has armed security and a few police officers also armed. their job description is to protect and in my opinion the teaching and protecting should not overlap, but still remain under one roof |
| i make terrible youtube videos, dont click the link unless you have literally seen everything else in existence https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH8qW8C2w0PNpTGlA-0r_HA |
| I'm from England, where shooting people isn't the go-to response for everything. This biases me against guns, naturally. |
 It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| Nobody outside of a job aimed at protecting the populace (police, military, bodyguards, etc.) should be armed, and only after background checks, safety training and psychological evaluation. |
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SnugglyWhuggly said: Not really, if I wanted to bait, I'd just go for the more obvious and simple kind. I like to make controversial topics, but ones where there's at least something to be discussed. By your logic, nothing controversial should ever be brought up or discussed, because it's "baiting". The "point" of making threads is for discussion. Also, @Nightwing, this is a bit off-topic, but I'm curious, you seem to be rather out of character of late. You've turned from baiter/shitposter to pseudo-pseudo-intellectual. I'm wondering how you went from stuff like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1451987 To this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1481060 cuz here: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1482926 Also sorry for calling your thread a bait thread I am sorry |
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| Yes, lets give underpaid and unrespected teachers that are incompetent at their already existing jobs guns. |
| nope. I think all schools should employ armed guards and / or armed policmen though that work in shifts to patrol the school grounds. That way there can be a much faster response to a school shooting other than calling 911 and waiting for help while people get killed in the mean time. |
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| Not in my school, and not lethal weapons durr, my school was very peaceful and chill, yet even so some dudes used to use homemade grenades in the bathrooms during class. It happened about three times. Imagine in a favela, in suburban schools, in violent areas. Put cameras all over the place and it's good.And reinforce monitoration and enforcement of rules. There would be lesser bullying,the reason for the shootings. |
| No way. Have you not seen how insane teachers can get? Ive seen a teacher grab someones desk lift it up with him in it and scream in his face. If he had a gun he for sure would have pulled it on him. |
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Nightwing said: SnugglyWhuggly said: Not really, if I wanted to bait, I'd just go for the more obvious and simple kind. I like to make controversial topics, but ones where there's at least something to be discussed. By your logic, nothing controversial should ever be brought up or discussed, because it's "baiting". The "point" of making threads is for discussion. Also, @Nightwing, this is a bit off-topic, but I'm curious, you seem to be rather out of character of late. You've turned from baiter/shitposter to pseudo-pseudo-intellectual. I'm wondering how you went from stuff like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1451987 To this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1481060 cuz here: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1482926 Also sorry for calling your thread a bait thread I am sorry ...What's this thread got to do with anything? No worries, like I said, I did create this thread with the intention of a shit storm/controversial discussion, but I'm also genuinely interested to hear people's opinions on this. SymphonySpring said: SnugglyWhuggly said: Cons: -Children are impressionable. -Guns in schools might be used in circumstances other than defence. -Children would be caught in the crossfire, if any school shootings were to occur. -How could arming teachers be regulated? You can also add -Teacher could possibly be secretly crazy in the head. Especially in the junior high and high school systems I've experienced..there were plenty of teachers you did not want ever holding a gun. I'm not surprised. I don't have much experience/knowledge of the schooling system and how it's run currently, but I do believe a fair chunk of teachers in the UK are unqualified as well. Unqualified and wielding a gun, sounds like a perfect match. |
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| Might be dangerous. I can see a story of some kid giving shit to their teacher and just not letting it go (which I see on a semi-regular basis) and the teacher just snaps and BANG! BANG! |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| I think.... no. It would be safer if security guards were hired. |
| Now I see the secret of the making of the best persons. It is to grow in the open air and to eat and sleep with the earth. -Walt Whitman A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -Robert A. Heinlein |
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