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Apr 11, 2015 4:20 PM
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I would like to preface this by saying that I do in fact enjoy the show.

I noticed that a group of people think that watching and enjoying LOGH makes them "elite," or whatever. There are exceptions with people like Higashi, aeonic, gholy, and Yeezus, who are cool people. But generally, I noticed that LOGH has a fanbase full of people who think they are the arbiters of good taste. Has anyone else on MAL noticed this phenomenon? Why do people think that enjoying this show in particular makes them more intelligent than say....someone who enjoys Naruto or Sword Art Online?
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Apr 11, 2015 4:21 PM
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I blame ThatAnimeSnob
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Isn't that the same with every fanbase though?!

Apr 11, 2015 4:22 PM
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CloudStrifeFFVII said:
Isn't that the same with every fanbase though?!
Not really. LOGH in particular is full of pretentious snobs who think that they're "enlightened" after watching it.
Apr 11, 2015 4:25 PM
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that old trash? dont even understand how anyone can like that
Apr 11, 2015 4:25 PM
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L-O-G-H? Log Horizon?
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PoeticJustice said:
Has anyone else on MAL noticed this phenomenon?


Kinda hard to NOT notice when they boast in every FUCKING thread about their supposed superiority for saying LOGH is "best animu evaaaahhh" and saying the rest is shit.
Apr 11, 2015 4:26 PM
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Meh. I never got it too. The show is quite simple, and not as complicated/intellectual as some of the fans claim it to be. There are quite the few answers I think, but I'll go with "They deceive themselves into believing thinking that watching something old with faux-politics and a mature cast makes for an objectively great, intellectual show."
Apr 11, 2015 4:26 PM
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Imeon said:
L-O-G-H? Log Horizon?
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Apr 11, 2015 4:26 PM

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Not having watched LOGH, im sure that it gives you more to think about then Naruto or SAO, at least when it comes to wits, or so i would say given the way the show is often portrayed by many of mal users, althought that shouldn't justify any sense of 'elitism'
Apr 11, 2015 4:28 PM

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Soul-Master said:
PoeticJustice said:
Has anyone else on MAL noticed this phenomenon?


Kinda hard to NOT notice when they boast in every FUCKING thread about their supposed superiority for saying LOGH is "best animu evaaaahhh" and saying the rest is shit.
Not sure which MAL you browse; this hasn't been my experience.

By the way, it seems as though you have not seen Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu. It's an excellent show and I would highly recommend it.
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Apr 11, 2015 4:29 PM

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Can't really comment since I haven't watched it, but it looks like another sensation that people latch onto to make themselves feel like they're the unique fish that swims upstream. It's like the rabid Gintama fans that shit talk every other popular series but then squeeze out phrases like "Butthurt" and "umad" whenever their show is put on the spot.
Apr 11, 2015 4:31 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
Can't really comment since I haven't watched it, but it looks like another sensation that people latch onto to make themselves feel like they're the unique fish that swims upstream. It's like the rabid Gintama fans that shit talk every other popular series but then squeeze out phrases like "Butthurt" and "umad" whenever their show is put on the spot.

When Gintama fans have done that?
It's more like throwing salt to people who complain about the 5 spots on the top 10 than bashing another anime.
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Ratohnhaketon said:
Can't really comment since I haven't watched it, but it looks like another sensation that people latch onto to make themselves feel like they're the unique fish that swims upstream. It's like the rabid Gintama fans that shit talk every other popular series but then squeeze out phrases like "Butthurt" and "umad" whenever their show is put on the spot.
Pretty much, except that they replace "Butthurt" and "umad" with phrases like "Filthy Casual"/"Pleb"/etc.
Apr 11, 2015 4:34 PM

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Deserada said:
Soul-Master said:


Kinda hard to NOT notice when they boast in every FUCKING thread about their supposed superiority for saying LOGH is "best animu evaaaahhh" and saying the rest is shit.
Not sure which MAL you browse; this hasn't been my experience.

By the way, it seems as though you have not seen Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu. It's an excellent show and I would highly recommend it.


It was more of a hyperbolic statement really. Not meant to be taken literally.

I am sure LOGH is a great show that I will watch it eventually, its on my PTW after all, but it doesn't change the fact that it has one of the most annoying, rabid fanbases.
Apr 11, 2015 4:36 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
Can't really comment since I haven't watched it, but it looks like another sensation that people latch onto to make themselves feel like they're the unique fish that swims upstream. It's like the rabid Gintama fans that shit talk every other popular series but then squeeze out phrases like "Butthurt" and "umad" whenever their show is put on the spot.


Never seen gintama fans hate on other shit. One piece, and bleach fans do that.
Apr 11, 2015 4:36 PM

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I don't think, I know. LOGH gives me the brains, One Piece the heart and the dreams, Ippo the tenacity, etc.
Apr 11, 2015 4:41 PM

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PoeticJustice said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
Can't really comment since I haven't watched it, but it looks like another sensation that people latch onto to make themselves feel like they're the unique fish that swims upstream. It's like the rabid Gintama fans that shit talk every other popular series but then squeeze out phrases like "Butthurt" and "umad" whenever their show is put on the spot.


Never seen gintama fans hate on other shit. One piece, and bleach fans do that.


But there are. Every time a thread regarding all the Gintama series in the top anime, fans simply say "butthurt" but then they hate on popular shit. There pretty much the same as LOGH fans, only using different vocabulary.
Apr 11, 2015 4:42 PM
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LoGH's fanbase mostly consists of a bunch of obnoxious pricks. Seriously as awesome as the show itself is, it has one of the worst fanbases out there
Apr 11, 2015 4:42 PM

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It's a misconception. People think that doing "smart people" things make people smarter when it's really not the case.
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Ratohnhaketon said:
Can't really comment since I haven't watched it, but it looks like another sensation that people latch onto to make themselves feel like they're the unique fish that swims upstream. It's like the rabid Gintama fans that shit talk every other popular series but then squeeze out phrases like "Butthurt" and "umad" whenever their show is put on the spot.

When Gintama fans have done that?
It's more like throwing salt to people who complain about the 5 spots on the top 10 than bashing another anime.
I'm seeing the same people who have occasionally whined about other top spots going to waste now applying their double standard circle jerk to Gintama overwhelming the front page. Basically it's a one way street of hypocrisy and criticism, followed by ravenous meme-level banter.

Sigh, might have to explain it now. When I say "rabid Gintama fans", I'm placing emphasis on rabid. I'm not generalizing the entire fan base, it's just a niche sub-group in an already niche franchise.
Apr 11, 2015 4:43 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
Praland said:

When Gintama fans have done that?
It's more like throwing salt to people who complain about the 5 spots on the top 10 than bashing another anime.
I'm seeing the same people who have occasionally whined about other top spots going to waste now applying their double standard circle jerk to Gintama overwhelming the front page. Basically it's a one way street of hypocrisy and criticism, followed by ravenous meme-level banter.

Sigh, might have to explain it now. When I say "rabid Gintama fans", I'm placing emphasis on rabid. I'm not generalizing the entire fan base, it's just a niche sub-group in an already niche franchise.
Niche? Gintama is a way of life
Apr 11, 2015 4:48 PM

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Because they can't handle actual high art or epic literature, so they go for anime's hack attempt at it.
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DoctorCaim said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
I'm seeing the same people who have occasionally whined about other top spots going to waste now applying their double standard circle jerk to Gintama overwhelming the front page. Basically it's a one way street of hypocrisy and criticism, followed by ravenous meme-level banter.

Sigh, might have to explain it now. When I say "rabid Gintama fans", I'm placing emphasis on rabid. I'm not generalizing the entire fan base, it's just a niche sub-group in an already niche franchise.
Niche? Gintama is a way of life
As far as I've noticed, Gintama's fanbase is more that they're laughing at all the people who claims the series is overrated and downvotes it just because they're butthurt about it. They don't hate on other series very much per se, they just praise Gintama itself as the second coming of christ. LoGH's fanbase just straight-up insults almost every other series other than itself and says they're shit

Of course that's an incredible generalization and I'm not saying that's the case for everyone (obviously) but that's kind of the feeling you get if you just hang out on the forums enough

Both cases stem from their respective series being fairly niche and targeting only a minority of the audience, and the people outside the target group don't really see the appeal at all
Apr 11, 2015 4:59 PM

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I've seen more people complaining about the supposed elitism of LOGH and its fandom than actual fans claiming to be as such. Everyone who watched it knows it's a pretty straightforward show.
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Gintama is a self-aware anime that often ridicules itself for its budget, mangaka, source, shoddy animation, and lazy production.
Gintama fans just exaggerate the anime as the second coming of Christ as a satirical form of irony.

And because it's funny.
Apr 11, 2015 5:03 PM

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I don't find these people on MAL. I find them on YouTube and Hummingbird.
Truthfully, I think that these people think they're smart because it's a good show that's old and isn't popular at all. It also helps knowing that it is a show about "smart' characters. Sure there are shows that are kind of like it, like Death Note and Code Geass but LOGH is better than both.

Legend of the Galactic heroes is a pretty straight forward show. I don't know why anyone would boast about their intelligence while watching a show that has a narrator literally tells you everything while the action is right in your face.

People should read the Ravages of Time. It's what Legend of the Galactic Heroes would be like if it didn't spell everything out for the viewer and was actually complicated.
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I have never seen anyone that watched LoGH claim themselves smarter after watching it. It's a good show, but doesn't make you smarter, like a carrot does not make your eyes brighter.

I have seen plenty who claimed Gintama was for people with good sense of humour though. I call bullshit. The show is dry and obnoxious, only a tiny amount of humour.
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sullynathan said:
Legend of the Galactic heroes is a pretty straight forward show. I don't know why anyone would boast about their intelligence while watching a show that has a narrator literally tells you everything while the action is right in your face.

People should read the Ravages of Time. It's what Legend of the Galactic Heroes would be like if it didn't spell everything out for the viewer and was actually complicated.

those chinese names though ;/
Apr 11, 2015 5:05 PM

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Y'all ain't cool until you watch Ghost in the Shell 2 and explain every philosophical quote made and how it applies to the show's context.
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I have seen plenty who claimed Gintama was for people with good sense of humour though. I call bullshit. The show is dry and obnoxious, only a tiny amount of humour.
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LogH is about as smart as Code Geass, but since no one has actually watched it, LogH fans can pretend that they're superior by saying that they like such a deep and intellectual masterpiece.
Apr 11, 2015 5:05 PM

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You got it backwards OP-kun. It's just that smart people watch LOGH.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Apr 11, 2015 5:06 PM

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I don't find these people on MAL. I find them on YouTube and Hummingbird.
Truthfully, I think that these people think they're smart because it's a good show that's old and isn't popular at all. It also helps knowing that it is a show about "smart' characters. Sure there are shows that are kind of like it, like Death Note and Code Geass but LOGH is better than both.

Legend of the Galactic heroes is a pretty straight forward show. I don't know why anyone would boast about their intelligence while watching a show that has a narrator literally tells you everything while the action is right in your face.

People should read the Ravages of Time. It's what Legend of the Galactic Heroes would be like if it didn't spell everything out for the viewer and was actually complicated.

those Chinese names though ;/

That feeling when remembering the names of characters is harder than knowing what is going on.
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The same thing applies to people who quote Sun Tzu's 'Art of War', which is (seemingly anyway, from watching the LOGH movies) what LOGH is rehashed from at its core. It does have its own identity however.
Apr 11, 2015 5:12 PM

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If I hadn't watch LOGH I would never have been accepted into the Ivy League Schools and got my 7 PhDs all at one. I literally turned into a genius after watching this series.
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The only thing i knew about LOGH is that it's one of holy trinity (alongside Yamato and Harlock) that managed to introduce space opera outside mecha genre to anime fans outside Japan. And pretty much that's it
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The only thing i knew about LOGH is that it's one of holy trinity (alongside Yamato and Harlock) that managed to introduce space opera outside mecha genre to anime fans outside Japan. And pretty much that's it

I thought it wasn't very popular
Apr 11, 2015 5:17 PM

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Tbh it's pretty good the fanbase is pure trash though. No offense sully.
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Tbh it's pretty good the fanbase is pure trash though. No offense sully.


But Sully is trash!~

Apr 11, 2015 5:20 PM

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LogHorizon shouldn't even be considered a "good" show. what with the filler arcs focusing on uninteresting characters, lolworhty speeches by a guildmaster that nobody cares, introducing more for the sake of moe, and that lolworthy ending...
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LogHorizon shouldn't even be considered a "good" show. what with the filler arcs focusing on uninteresting characters, lolworhty speeches by a guildmaster that nobody cares, introducing more for the sake of moe, and that lolworthy ending...

But we are talking about Legend of the Galactic Heroes
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LogHorizon shouldn't even be considered a "good" show. what with the filler arcs focusing on uninteresting characters, lolworhty speeches by a guildmaster that nobody cares, introducing more for the sake of moe, and that lolworthy ending...


Legend of the Galactic Heroes hun. It's just a show that try hard elitists claim to be the "bast aneem evar" because it's a smart anime.

Also if you aren't watching LH for the glasses tilting there's your problem.
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ah, ok. haven't watched that show, so i can't comment on that.
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It is a good show, it just isn't my favorite space opera. It seems like people want you to have a really strong opinion on this show for some reason, but I just don't.


They want you to rate it a 9-10 and vaunt it as better then Star Wars.
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ah, ok. haven't watched that show, so i can't comment on that.

oh don't worry then because most people who comment on it haven't watched/completed it ;P
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I blame ThatAnimeSnob
is he the reviewer who always rant in youtube???
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HeroKenzan20 said:
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ah, ok. haven't watched that show, so i can't comment on that.

oh don't worry then because most people who comment on it haven't watched/completed it ;P


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It's all fujoshi schlock anyhow.
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I blame ThatAnimeSnob
is he the reviewer who always rant speaks the objective truth in youtube???

yes ;D
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