| Everyone already knows the dictionary definition: the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. Of course, actions speak louder than words... Like any political ideology, gender, or race, feminism has some bad eggs. There are extremists and opportunists like Jonathan McIntosh and Brianna Wu who give feminism a bad name. But it would be unfair to judge an entire group because of the actions of a very loud few. Throughout the world today, women are still expected to be subservient to men. Feminism's primary goal is to pave a path for equal opportunity in society, and undo the thinking that suggests women exist primarily as objects for male pleasure and control. Not every feminist hates sexual depictions of women, is offended by everything, or believes women should be treated like delicate snow flakes. TL;DR: In my opinion, yes, there are good feminists. |
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[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
| Yes, im sure everyone knows there are some good feminists. But therewere some good Nazis in WWII as well who saved people so does that mean Nazism is a good ideology? No. Feminism has flaws to its common approaches for equality beyond its original function. |
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| I dont think many people are opposed to women and men who fight for gender equality, which is sadly still an issue (especially in non-industrial countries) but Ive seen feminists say thinks like women should have more rights cause they were opressed by men for so long or finding something 'sexist' in every single piece of media etc. which annoys people. |
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| I admire the ones who live in or plan to visit India, Haiti, Pakistan etc. The ones who sit on their ass and bitch about things irrelevant to them on the internet can fuck off imo. |
Fo-Fai said: I admire the ones who live in or plan to visit India, Haiti, Pakistan etc. The ones who sit on their ass and bitch about things irrelevant to them on the internet can fuck off imo. Thank you. Taken as a compliment. |
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Fo-Fai said: I admire the ones who live in or plan to visit India, Haiti, Pakistan etc. The ones who sit on their ass and bitch about things irrelevant to them on the internet can fuck off imo. Not only that but those who escaped the shit from those countries. |
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| Yes, a few of my friends are feminists, but they are not overly batshit crazy about it. |
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| Anita Sarkeesian is a good feminist. |
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| The "dictionary definition" is already flawed, as it assumes female subordination and inferiority in every aspect of culture. If you have to ignore, change, distort, and lie about reality to make yourself a victim, you're probably not a victim. |
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traed said: well thenYes, im sure everyone knows there are some good feminists. But there were some good Nazis [..] |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
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katsucats said: Depends. What race are the animals?If a racist donates money to the animal shelter, does that make him a good racist? |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Joshiraku said: katsucats said: Depends. What race are the animals?If a racist donates money to the animal shelter, does that make him a good racist? The only true race, German Shepherds. |
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| I respect a lot the feminist living in countries such as India or Pakistan. They are fighting for what our "occidental" feminists used to fight. In our modern society i'm not sure if feminism is any good, though. MechaKiryu said: Anita Sarkeesian is a good feminist. ofc=) |
traed said: Yes, im sure everyone knows there are some good feminists. But therewere some good Nazis in WWII as well who saved people so does that mean Nazism is a good ideology? No. You answered your own question. Of course not. But feminism, a movement advocating gender equality, can't be conflated with Nazism, a nationalist socialist movement that advocated genocide. They're completely different from each other. MechaKiryu said: Anita Sarkeesian is a good feminist. I agree with her on many things, but she's a little too sex-negative for my liking. |
aikaflip said: MechaKiryu said: Anita Sarkeesian is a good feminist. I agree with her on many things, but she's a little too sex-negative for my liking. I just had to look at the fact that the comments/likes are disables on her yt videos and her contradicting opinions about the women in videogames to understand that she wasn't the kind of women feminism needs. At all. |
| Of course they exist. Feminism has dated back to the ages and has progressed women's rights tremendously. Nowadays modern day feminism is advocating for the wrong things and has become unnecessarily radical in the process. Statements are often exaggerated/not true (for example Patricia's feminist speech during the 2015 Oscars) in order to get the "point" across. Also even though feminism isn't founded on it, misandry is also promoted in feminism. Feminism is a good concept and I think most would agree with it. But the modern archetype for being an advocate of one should be changed. The media and internet displays the man-shaming, bitter and browbeating feminists, and a lot of people believe that's all feminists are. |
Shitposta said: I'm pretty sure suicide bombers don't do it for their personal gain either.Good feminists don't do it for their own personal gain and totally understand that not all can be achieved in the realm of social justce. Those ones aren't deserving of any criticism, but sadly, they're the easiest target of anti-feminist trolls, and that's when it goes too far. |
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KawaiiWeeabz said: What does that mean?MechaKiryu said: Anita Sarkeesian is a good feminist. ofc=) |
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| You guys know I was shitposting right? I don't even know who that is. |
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aikaflip said: But feminism, a movement advocating gender equality, can't be conflated with Nazism, a nationalist socialist movement that advocated genocide. aikaflip said: Everyone already knows the dictionary definition: the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. Of course, actions speak louder than words... |
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MechaKiryu said: KawaiiWeeabz said: What does that mean?ofc=) It wasn't meant to be serious :c I don't think a lot of people on this forum agree with you~ |
Shitposta said: monarchyanarchy said: misandry is also promoted in feminism. Which is why there's no need to be an apologist towards feminism as a whole. On the other hand, black and white thought is what the arguably "acceptable" stance is. You either like feminists or you don't. As a result, all males are shitlords and all females are SJWs. Right. I hate how I see people bash others who don't support/and or agree to feminism as if it's an issue. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with it. And if you ask me, people who disagree with it have more of an issue with the advocates than the concept itself, which speaks volumes about feminists today. |
Gholy said: If doing something for one ideal constitutes personal gain, then every feminist does everything about feminism for personal gain. (I am sure that not every Muslim extremist believes in 72 virgins.)katsucats said: Well, they do so believing that they'll gain a lot in the afterlife, so in a twisted way, they are doing it for personal gain.I'm pretty sure suicide bombers don't do it for their personal gain either. |
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aikaflip said: its called a rhetoricalquestion and its an alegory not a comparison.traed said: Yes, im sure everyone knows there are some good feminists. But therewere some good Nazis in WWII as well who saved people so does that mean Nazism is a good ideology? No. You answered your own question. Of course not. But feminism, a movement advocating gender equality, can't be conflated with Nazism, a nationalist socialist movement that advocated genocide. They're completely different from each other. |
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MechaKiryu said: Anita Sarkeesian is a good feminist. Anita Sarkeesian will destroy Eastern gaming if she's let into Japan. |
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Gholy said: Hoppy said: Anita Sarkeesian will destroy Eastern gaming if she's let into Japan. Will they even give a shit about her? Well she has a good chance of being featured in Japanese blogs due to her good looks (a lot of Asians in Asia have this thing with idolizing and objectifying beautiful women usually of high talent, class, or celebrity) while ignoring the evil she'll inflict to their culture also she'll have a cow once she finds out she's being objectified. |
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katsucats said: that's an argument from incredulity fallacyGholy said: If doing something for one ideal constitutes personal gain, then every feminist does everything about feminism for personal gain. (I am sure that not every Muslim extremist believes in 72 virgins.)Well, they do so believing that they'll gain a lot in the afterlife, so in a twisted way, they are doing it for personal gain. |
Gholy said: Hoppy said: Well she has a good chance of being featured in Japanese blogs due to her good looks (a lot of Asians in general in Asia have this thing with idolizing and objectifying beautiful women usually of high talent, class, or celebrity) while ignoring the evil she'll inflict to their culture also she'll have a cow once she finds out she's being objectified. Is it weird that I don't even find her attractive? No, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I for example find the members of Chubbiness to be very cute. |
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| Yes, there are good feminist. This is plain common sense. |
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| There's a big difference between feminazis and feminists. |
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| If they are good, is not because they are feminist, but regardless of it. |
| Yes. I'm even friends with a few feminists The definition of sexism is to hold women to an equal standing with men and vice versa. To say I'm against that is a little out there but what I am against is radical feminism. There are places where it's legal to cut a woman's clit off, sell them, rape them and do whatever you want to them. That's actual oppression. Someone being called a bitch in a video game isn't oppression isn't and saying it is trivializes the struggles that hundreds of thousands of women actually go through every day. I think many of the third wave feminists are just rebels looking for a cause. When you're young, you want to be different so badly because you need a way to enforce that you're special or unique. What better way then to fight against something bigger then you. That something being the "patriarchy". The problem with this is is that you associate being right with being unique so that when someone proves you wrong, you get a bruised ego. That's just a theory though, A GAME THEORY aikaflip said: Like any political ideology, gender, or race, feminism has some bad eggs. There are extremists and opportunists like Jonathan McIntosh and Brianna Wu who give feminism a bad name. But it would be unfair to judge an entire group because of the actions of a very loud few. Throughout the world today, women are still expected to be subservient to men. Feminism's primary goal is to pave a path for equal opportunity in society, and undo the thinking that suggests women exist primarily as objects for male pleasure and control. Not every feminist hates sexual depictions of women, is offended by everything, or believes women should be treated like delicate snow flakes and then brianna wu says something like this and you don't know what to do anymore |
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| I haven't met any. |
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| yes. definitely. a recent example would be malala yousuf. i think she's an amazing human being and incredibly inspiring despite her young age. |
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| No. It should be recognised as a terrorist group and destroyed so we can have an equal society free of misandry. |
| Yes, in fact the feminists that wish for equality as a whole, as opposed to equality focused only where it is convenient for women are most likely the majority. However those radical feminists are much louder, and more controversial, so the media will only focus on them. |
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