No Game No Life (light novel)
| Alright guys. This has been a question I've been pondering for a long time now: Do haters hate the anime itself or the popularity it gets? No Game No Life was good. It had scenes that make you think, humorous moments, an interesting set of characters, a unique animation style, and an enjoyable soundtrack. For those reasons, people started giving it a score of 10 as soon as it started airing and were constantly talking about it. As soon as that started happening, people started giving it lower scores, like 4 and lower. This is the same thing that happened with Sword Art Online, Attack on Titan, The Future Diary, etc. There were always people giving it super low scores despite the pros. It seemed like they were only focusing on the negatives. My overall question then, do haters rate the anime low because of the hype it's been getting, or do they honestly hate it? I get there are people that dislike it because they didn't enjoy watching it, but I feel like a majority of the people hate on it just because of the popularity it gets. Opinions? |
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| Why in the name of all that is holy is there another hate questioning thread. Please stop making these. It'd be better for all of us. |
| If they are haters, then the hype. Many people are the type that hate the popularity, more than the actual thing surrounded by the popularity, so they take their hate on it, and it's fans. |
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| I don't hate the show per se since I did enjoy it,but I hate what it represents, as well as the fandom of course. |
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| NGNL is a show that pretends to be clever. What may seem thought provoking is actually just bullshit the creators came up with. But I found it to be fairly entertaining. |
| I'd say it's the hype. Sometimes I even hate the hype. I hate the show Kill La Kill, and I refuse to watch it. |
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Nerveri said: NGNL is a show that pretends to be clever. What may seem thought provoking is actually just bullshit the creators came up with. But I found it to be fairly entertaining. Exactly. As much as i don't consider myself a hater of the show per se, the fact that it has a better score than shows like Shinsekai or LB Refrain is revolting. |
| Who cares. If you don't like hate topics/posts just ignore them. |
| I'm just a big visual novel fan but have also watched quite a bit of anime and played a bunch of games. Avatar is Mashiro from Making*Lovers and Kotori from Rewrite. |
| Are the haters unable to hate both? After all, hype is hype, which inevitably draws in haters, and on top of that, NGNL itself is pretty flawed as a show. And yeah, I agree with Forgetfulness. I don't know what you're talking about with those "popular hated" anime, OP. SAO and SnK are extremely flawed and have more cons than the pros can overcome, though I can't say for Mirai Nikki because I haven't seen it yet. |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| Hate is a strong word. I'd say i disliked the show in the beginning, but episodes 8+ were decent imo my biggest complaint about the show is the excessive fan service. sure, it's 'ecchi', but do we really need to see loli girls naked in the bath or otherwise every damn episode..? there were so many bath scenes, they might as well call this No Bath No Life edit: can't say about SAO and mirai nikki, but Snk was pretty bad, even though there were some epic scenes. though i'm a NGNL hater, NGNL is better than SnK imo. |
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| Because it's popular to hate popular things. Everyone knows that. |
Forgetfulness said: 1. unexplained ridiculously OP MCs for no reason. Basically destroyed any tension in the games because you knew that somehow, in the end they would win. Sure, the games themselves might have made sense but you knew that the plot armor would make them win in the end: either they already knew some trick a bajillion years ago, or they can figure it out on the spot, or maybe a fucking coin will flip exactly as they command it to for god knows whatever reason It was explained, whole their family situation, hikkikomorism, etc was explanation. Deal with it. It doesn't need to be realistic. |
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| The show has lots of flaws if you judge it objectively, but I sitll gave it a 9/10 simply because I rate based on my own personal enjøyment and therefore don't care if it isn't objective. Now for me the show was entertaining enough as long as you don't expect it to be something deep or complex. I agree that Steph being mostly a simple comic-relief, fanservice character could've been toned down a little, despite it being ecchi. |
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| Its the same type of issue with the clannad hype a few years ago, because it was both a good show and had quite a tremendous fanbase, it also created a few haters on the basis that the show was overrated. With respect to no game no life, the show was good, very good in fact, but the number of people giving this a 10/10 is a little too many since in the end, it was still a little flawed. Nevertheless, the end result had good balance and entertainment value ( What i really cannot understand however, is the fact that some people rate NGNL a 1/10, but give shows like sword art online a 9/10.) |
| Anime gave me more life lessons than school |
| I'm not hater but, 8.82?? NGNL has some uniques features but is far from being a masterpiece. So, the fact is, the haters appears when the fanboys appears. |
So haters nitpick every single animation error and musical queue instead of plot holes, character inconsistency and directing? And if something is hyped up, it has to be damn good, have plenty of substance and be something a lot more than just "kick back and have fun". |
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| This is how it usually works: >plebs hear that an anime is the best thing since sliced bread >watches show with unbelievably high expectations >doesn't think the anime lives up to the hype >claims it's shit, even if they really think it's mediocre or decent at best. Everyone has been there. |
| [quote=T3hSource]So haters nitpick every single animation error and musical queue instead of plot holes, character inconsistency and directing?[/spoiler] But wasn't that what you were doing in SAO II thread <_< That aside, what plotholes and character inconsistencies are in NGNL? I'm genuinely curious. T3hSource said: That's not true. It only needs to be enjoyable enough to get hyped up. Expecting these other things from it are the viewer's fault for having wrong expectations.And if something is hyped up, it has to be damn good, have plenty of substance and be something a lot more than just "kick back and have fun". |
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| Everyone has different opinions. Don't expect everyone to like NGNL (or any of the other "overrated/hyped anime" for that matter), no matter how much people hype it up. I personally don't care for it since I've watched an episode and thought differently about it but it's fine if other people do. Who cares what others think as long as you like it? |
| [quote=Botato] T3hSource said: So haters nitpick every single animation error and musical queue instead of plot holes, character inconsistency and directing?[/spoiler] But wasn't that what you were doing in SAO II thread <_< hypocrites |
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uh said: Everyone has different opinions. Don't expect everyone to like NGNL (or any of the other "overrated/hyped anime" for that matter), no matter how much people hype it up. I personally don't care for it since I've watched an episode and thought differently about it but it's fine if other people do. Who cares what others think as long as you like it? MAL needs more people like you. where's the like button when you need it..? |
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Botato said: > supposed to be NEET/hikikomoris aka antisocial That aside, what plotholes and character inconsistencies are in NGNL? I'm genuinely curious. > beat others via mind games and bluffing And no, "it's a game to them", "he's treating them like NPCs" are not good excuses, especially when they say "reality is a crappy game". And yes, I was nitpicking the actual animation from looking at it too closely, as well as the art and spatial inconsistencies. Since that was the point of my argument there. Which don't really matter either way, since it's all for drama anyway. Botato said: So it's the viewer's fault for buying into the hype? In order for one not to attach their definition of "good", they should never listen to hype in the first place, because it will always end in disappointment. With that in mind, the whole existence of hype becomes meaningless and the noise of the praise becomes annoying.T3hSource said: That's not true. It only needs to be enjoyable enough to get hyped up. Expecting these other things from it are the viewer's fault for having wrong expectations.And if something is hyped up, it has to be damn good, have plenty of substance and be something a lot more than just "kick back and have fun". |
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| [quote=Miyuuchuu]Actually, I think haters may just actually dislike things. It's not in their taste.[/spoiler] Someone disliking something because it wasn't to their taste? People having different opinions and expressing them on the internet? HERESY. But yeah, this guy gets it. I like you, guy. |
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T3hSource said: Well it just seems to me that you, once again, only see one way to do things and any other way is bad.Botato said: > supposed to be NEET/hikikomoris aka antisocial That aside, what plotholes and character inconsistencies are in NGNL? I'm genuinely curious. > beat others via mind games and bluffing And no, "it's a game to them", "he's treating them like NPCs" are not good excuses, especially when they say "reality is a crappy game". T3hSource said: I think everyone knows hypes are annoying when they are especially loud and you don't like the show being hyped. With that said, if something is hyped then there's a reason for it right? Then one should know what that reason is by asking around instead of going in blind expecting the next genre breaking show or the next Monster level of complexity. NGNL was hyped up as a highly entertaining and funny ecchi about games. If someone watches it expecting Lain or whatever deep and complex show with substance, then it's their fault not the hype's fault, and the hype itself is not necessarily the show's fault either.Botato said: So it's the viewer's fault for buying into the hype? In order for one not to attach their definition of "good", they should never listen to hype in the first place, because it will always end in disappointment. With that in mind, the whole existence of hype becomes meaningless and the noise of the praise becomes annoying.That's not true. It only needs to be enjoyable enough to get hyped up. Expecting these other things from it are the viewer's fault for having wrong expectations. |
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Botato said: 10/10 MASTERPIECE!!! comments and reviews speak for themselves.With that said, if something is hyped then there's a reason for it right? Then one should know what that reason is by asking around instead of going in blind expecting the next genre breaking show or the next Monster level of complexity. NGNL was hyped up as a highly entertaining and funny ecchi about games. If someone watches it expecting Lain or whatever deep and complex show with substance, then it's their fault not the hype's fault, and the hype itself is not necessarily the show's fault either. So a viewer has to do their homework instead of following hype. In which case you just evaluate it at its cover. |
T3hSourceJul 18, 2014 4:04 PM
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T3hSource said: No they do not. Before you take them seriously you need to know, what kind of masterpiece are they talking about? In what way?10/10 MASTERPIECE!!! comments and reviews speak for themselves. Because the definition of masterpiece is different from person to person, so when someone finds the comedy to his liking and calls this a masterpiece you need to know he/she's talking about comedy, you don't just expect it to fit your own criteria of being, for example, complex to be a masterpiece. T3hSource said: That should be common knowledge to the average anime fan. Anyone that tries watching shows blindly without doing their homework learns it the hard way.So a viewer has to do their homework instead of following hype. |
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| The anime is okay but it's so overrated. |
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| I don't think there are people out there who hate a show only because of the hype and nothing else. If NGNL weren't popular, people who dislike this show would still give it a low score, post maybe a comment or two on how the show failed to meet their expectations and be done with it. Of course the fact that the show has a huge score and gets so much praise incites a lot more heated arguments as everyone likes to prove how wrong the other's opinion is. Nevertheless I like it when a show has a group of people who doesn't look everything through rose-tinted glasses and is able to pinpoint things that didn't make much sense as it can sometimes lead to some interesting discussions. Yeah, I know the "this anime sucks" on-liners are kinda useless and don't promote discussion, but so are the "10/10 best episode evah!!!" posts and nobody seems to mind those. Botato said: That's not true. It only needs to be enjoyable enough to get hyped up. Expecting these other things from it are the viewer's fault for having wrong expectations. I can agree with that. This happened to me with Tokyo Ghoul and Akame ga Kill this season, since I started both more because everyone else were interested in them and not because I found the synopsis intriguing for example. Obviously, it's my fault for expecting these series to cater exclusively to my preferences. |
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| There are many shows worse than NGNL, yet NGNL has more bashing and haters. So yes, I do agree that people hate the hype. |
| As a hater I would have to say I hate both the hype and the anime. |
| Hype probably has something to do with it. Not all, but some, I guess. I mean, before it aired, barely anyone was talking about it cause we were to busy shitting about Mahouka. |
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Halicone said: Nevertheless I like it when a show has a group of people who doesn't look everything through rose-tinted glasses and is able to pinpoint things that didn't make much sense as it can sometimes lead to some interesting discussions. Yeah, I know the "this anime sucks" on-liners are kinda useless and don't promote discussion, but so are the "10/10 best episode evah!!!" posts and nobody seems to mind those. I think that at least some of the haters do mind the "10/10 best episode evah!!!" posts, so it's not nobody. I liked NGNL and I mind them a little. You've also mentioned that it's good to have people who can look at a show critically, without rose-colored glasses, and express something other than "yes, this is good." I agree. But critics can be as problematic as fanboys, in their own way. From a review of NGNL on this site: "Do you want to watch a show where you can turn your brain off, creepily watch little naked girls, and think you're having fun from a show that pretends to be clever?" I can understand why someone would think that NGNL merely pretends to be clever, that it lets you turn your brain off, and that the fanservice is creepy. But I will have you know that I had fun watching NGNL. I didn't just "think I had fun," I had actual fun. I had more fun than I had reading Romeo and Juliet in English class eight or so years ago. I am as certain that the fun I had watching NGNL is real as I am that the Earth is real. Does anyone out there honestly believe that the people who watched this and claim to have had fun watching it somehow merely only thought they had fun, while deep down they didn't enjoy it? If so, why? |
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opondica said: I've seen claims that people are only living in the hype and stuff, so yeah, there are people that believe others pretend they are enjoying this.Does anyone out there honestly believe that the people who watched this and claim to have had fun watching it somehow merely only thought they had fun, while deep down they didn't enjoy it? If so, why? |
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| Oh who cares what haters think. Obviously haters have no taste and prefer moto Shoenen manga with no brains only ohohohoho. |
Iro said: Oh who cares what haters think. Obviously haters have no taste and prefer moto Shoenen manga with no brains only ohohohoho. wat |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| Hype? What hype? Who's hyping it? I haven't seen any hype surrounding this anime. It didn't even get reviewed at Animenewsnetwork's Season Preview. The only reason I even saw this was because some fellow animelist users who share similar tastes as me happen to rate this highly. So I thought I'd check it out and give it a shot. If there's an over hyped title it'll be like this one: http://myanimelist.net/anime/820/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu There's glowing reviews about this on imdb and this site. Blogs says it's the best space opera anime ever. Its got an award in some Japanese SF competition. Ran for 12 years straight, with spin offs, video games, merchandise, everything. Then I watch it, and its a bad looking 80's animation where supposed "genius" tacticians try to use 2D ancient greek land "surrounding" tactics in 3d space. The funny/stupid part is that it actually worked because the enemy "genius" tactician didn't know how to go UP or DOWN in space. A Japanese Dune it was not. |
| If there was an anime people thought it was terrible or unwatchable and did not become popular it would be quickly disregarded and forgotten. But since the very first episode the rating did not stop increasing and now can be seen on the first page of Top Anime. In that perspective popularity and hype brought in haters. Although I really enjoyed NGNL and I think it deserves a sequel, I can understand what the haters think. It is rated higher than most Ghibli films and is sitting alongside some names including Hajime no ippo, Mushishi and along many others considered the greatest ever - which would raise some eyebrows - and I do not blame them. Of course there are some people who genuinely disliked for its abundance of ecchi scenes and unrealistically intelligent characters, most of the hate would not have been possible with its immense reputation, especially on this site. |
| The hype I guess. I don't understand why though, especially since it brings new fans for anime like for attack on Titan, the hype was so big that even a guy who doesn't watch anime heard about it. All I heard was how great it was, even a year later. So one day while I was bored i decided to watch it. The shows not perfect, but it found it highly enjoyable, and pretty much exactly what I want out of a show. The problem with hype though is when some people go in to a show with their expectations too high, and when they find that the show isn't perfect, because nothing is, then they automatically call it overrated. All they see are the flaws, and take it for face value, ignoring any depth there might be for the show. What pisses me of is when they go around calling the show overrated, saying its horrible over and over. I couldn't stand durarara, but I don't go around telling everyone the show is horrible, (even though this technically means I just did) but still. |
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