Attack on Titan
| Seems pretty illogical to me. If they have cannons, they must have gunpowder. |
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| I think that would be more logical. I mean, given what kind of caliber is needed for a gun to even try and do some damage to a titan, cannons would be more beneficial. |
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| When you see how little effect even the cannons have on the giants I think a small rifle would be kinda pointless. |
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| You might want to rewatch the OP a few more times. |
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| I mean it'd be cool to see a .50 caliber round try and shoot down a titan and all, but... |
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| Guns would still be useful, you could aim it at their weak spot and kill Titan's without getting up close. |
Monde11Apr 17, 2013 9:47 AM
| You could have looked at some pics or watched the OP to be certain they don't have guns in them but instead you decided to make a thread that's illogical. |
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| Cannons have small damage on titans.. How much more if it's a gun.. It would be like a tar-tar in their teeth.. |
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| What I think might be very good would be a giant ass flamethrower! |
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Mkayyy said: You could have looked at some pics or watched the OP to be certain they don't have guns in them but instead you decided to make a thread that's illogical. Well if they do have guns, why weren't they used when the attack started? |
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missunify said: Why don't you read all the other posts before replying to me.Mkayyy said: You could have looked at some pics or watched the OP to be certain they don't have guns in them but instead you decided to make a thread that's illogical. Well if they do have guns, why weren't they used when the attack started? |
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| Rewatch the opening. Also, cannons have 0 effects in the titans. |
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| I would imagine the cannons at least have SOME kind of effect on the smaller Titans. The only time they showed cannon being used was against the new giant Titan which broke through the wall. Guns, when shot in the face, could maybe slow them down, too. |
missunify said: I'm not gonna jump on the bashing bandwagon. But in all seriousness, how much effect do you think a gun would do to a titan, let alone an armored one? Given that cannonballs had little to no effect...Mkayyy said: You could have looked at some pics or watched the OP to be certain they don't have guns in them but instead you decided to make a thread that's illogical. Well if they do have guns, why weren't they used when the attack started? |
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| What everyone else said: (1) they have guns, (2) cannons are better. |
| I was just asking a question, no need to bash me and the thread. Thanks for the helpful responses. |
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| There is a time that guns are better than cannons, but alas that would require me to spoil with a page from ch7 to demonstrate it. |
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| They have flintlock muskets. 3 rounds a minute. Effective range is around 100 meters. For their cannons they have grape shot and pomegrenades shot. I am not sure if they have rifled cannons. Judging by their inaccuracy they don't. |
dankickyouApr 17, 2013 12:31 PM
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dankickyou said: Damned straight. I still can't imagine how they managed to miss that huge armored giant.They have flintlock muskets. 3 rounds a minute. Effective range is around 100 feet. For their cannons they have grape shot and pomegrenades shot. I am not sure if they have rifled cannons. Judging by their inaccuracy they don't. |
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| Cannons and muskets definitely have penetrative qualities against a titan, but a titan more than likely isn't going to let you have the perfect angle you'd need, since you do have to actually remove the entire nape of the neck. Don't worry, cannons and muskets are put to practical use later in the show. |
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missunify said: They do have guns and will be using them in the first big battle and they are used to blind the titans not harm kill them.Seems pretty illogical to me. If they have cannons, they must have gunpowder. |
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| History lessons and logic would help you. |
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| Why don't you email the creator and ask him cause we sure as hell didn't make the anime. |
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| This thread is a prime example of impatience and ignorance. |
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| I believe they use specially designed blades to attack a Titan. A gun would have no effect on them unless you aim for the eyes, which is too hard to do when you move as fast as them, and it would probably just hinder their maneuverability. |
AnimeHAwk616 said: I believe they use specially designed blades to attack a Titan. A gun would have no effect on them unless you aim for the eyes, which is too hard to do when you move as fast as them, and it would probably just hinder their maneuverability. I was just about to make a post about the eye situation. If you got them in both eyes they wouldn't just be hindered, they'd be blind. Which would make them at worst only be able to recklessly bash around instead of doing it with precision. Obviously the canon's haven't done anything, and I'm not sure why they haven't used the guns, even though the OP showed they do which has been mentioned quite a lot in this thread. How are they even supposed to kill these things anyway? Wrap ropes around their legs to trip them and then stab giant 10ft blades into their head? |
Caze said: How are they even supposed to kill these things anyway? Wrap ropes around their legs to trip them and then stab giant 10ft blades into their head? The opening shows how they kill them around 55 seconds.. |
Caze said: The giants quickly regenerate so hitting them in the eyes would only temporarily hinder them, and their cannons are not accurate at all.AnimeHAwk616 said: I believe they use specially designed blades to attack a Titan. A gun would have no effect on them unless you aim for the eyes, which is too hard to do when you move as fast as them, and it would probably just hinder their maneuverability. I was just about to make a post about the eye situation. If you got them in both eyes they wouldn't just be hindered, they'd be blind. Which would make them at worst only be able to recklessly bash around instead of doing it with precision. Obviously the canon's haven't done anything, and I'm not sure why they haven't used the guns, even though the OP showed they do which has been mentioned quite a lot in this thread. How are they even supposed to kill these things anyway? Wrap ropes around their legs to trip them and then stab giant 10ft blades into their head? Only by taking out a chunk out of the back of their neck can they die, which they are able to do with their swords. |
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Caze said: Well, it's gonna be explained later on in the show. Then you'll understandAnimeHAwk616 said: I believe they use specially designed blades to attack a Titan. A gun would have no effect on them unless you aim for the eyes, which is too hard to do when you move as fast as them, and it would probably just hinder their maneuverability. I was just about to make a post about the eye situation. If you got them in both eyes they wouldn't just be hindered, they'd be blind. Which would make them at worst only be able to recklessly bash around instead of doing it with precision. Obviously the canon's haven't done anything, and I'm not sure why they haven't used the guns, even though the OP showed they do which has been mentioned quite a lot in this thread. How are they even supposed to kill these things anyway? Wrap ropes around their legs to trip them and then stab giant 10ft blades into their head? |
| Because a gun would be ineffective in killing big ass titans. It's also possible that they don't have the technology to make high-powered rifles (despite the fact they have a very complex 3D movement tool). |
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| Of course a regular rifle/pistol wouldn't be very effective to these giants. It'll be interesting to see how the humans eventually find a way to fight them. |
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Dr_Smurph said: missunify said: Seems pretty illogical to me. If they have cannons, they must have gunpowder. Logic applies to a reality based world... this is fiction, a made up world with titans which eat humans. And not where humans eat titans, because that wouldn't be logical. Just because it's fiction doesn't mean you can throw out all logic,depends on the work. |
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missunify said: Seems pretty illogical to me. If they have cannons, they must have gunpowder. Guns won't help them slash the nape of a neck of a titan. |
Takuan_Soho said: missunify said: I was just asking a question, no need to bash me and the thread. Thanks for the helpful responses. Another one is that historically canons came long before guns. Canons used to be huge, not so much because the projectiles were huge, but because poor metallurgy meant that the metal was fairly brittle and they need a ton of it to contain the explosion, even then they had a considerably large chance to explode. Guns, being so much smaller, were harder to make, and took improvements in metal technology before they were feasible. And even when they were feasible they were used more like arrows than the weapon of choice. Pikes and swords maintained their dominance on the battlefield well into the 17th century. Not really. Arquebus and muskets were weapons of choice for choice for musketeers. Pikemen, halbediers, heavy cavalry, light cavalry, musketeers, etc were all used together as a combined arms warfare so the one of choice for one is not the weapon of choice for the other. The musket itself was noted by contemporaries as being far deadlier than arrows. |
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bastek66Apr 20, 2013 5:20 AM
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Monde11 said: Guns would still be useful, you could aim it at their weak spot and kill Titan's without getting up close. Thats nonsense, we have to be talking about modern post wwi military grade scopes here to even consider that, and this is the period where horses are still used, those would be illogical They don't have funs because this was in the mideval, and they're dealing with giant fucking humanoids |
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paper-dreams said: What everyone else said: (1) they have guns, (2) cannons are better. missunify said: I was just asking a question, no need to bash me and the thread. Thanks for the helpful responses. |
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lordmaster316Apr 22, 2013 12:13 AM
Akai012 said: Hehehehe, thickness of their meat.It's explained in episode 5: "What makes them such a threat is their vitality." It varies from each individual, but their massive regeneration and the thickness of their meat (since they're soo huge) makes it hard to kill them with just a gun. And also you need to take a huge chunk of meat to actually kill them. Swords are just better at doing the most damage to them. Also it seems they use a special type of sword. |
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