Obama vs McCain: Who are you voting for?
Barack Obama
66.8%
290
John McCain
21.0%
91
Other. Please explain.
12.2%
53
434 votes
| I'm not American so obviously can't vote myself, however US politics impacts the world, so I pay attention to it as well. Hilary was my choice, but seeing as she's out, Obama is the man. He seems to have his head in the right place, for the mostpart (as far as any politician does, anyway.) unlike McCain who is just another redneck good ol' boy who will barely change anything from Bush's reign of terror. Somehow I do doubt Obama will win, but personally I think he's a better choice than McCain, from everything I've seen and heard so far. But campaign promises are rarely kept anyway, so it can go either way pretty easily. |
| If McCain wins, I lose all faith in my country. That's all I'll say for now. |
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| I'm not American, but if i had to vote, then it wouldn't be Obama. I don't know McCain, but knowing i don't like Obama's way of thinking, i'd go for McCain, simply for the fact that i have nothing else to gamble on. |
| NEITHER! I'M EXERCISING MY RIGHT NOT TO VOTE! actually I'm just really lazy. |
| I'm not American, and I don't think I'd be old enough to vote, but if I was, I'd vote for Barack Obama. |
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| I'm not an American, but if I had to vote I'd vote for Turd Sandwich. |
| Either way, we are getting a dem! Definitely McCain. |
| There's already a thread about this, but I can't find it due to the Search function being down. So eh. LionMagnus said: Where's my "Ralph Nader" option? This, or even more urgently and dreamily Brian Moore. Supposing I magically get a citizenship in the States, that is. |
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LionMagnus said: Where's my "Ralph Nader" option? Ralph Nader is a creepy little gremlin and if it wasn't for him George Bush wouldn't have been elected in 2000. |
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| I honestly don't know who I am going to vote for yet. I don't really like either one very much. |
| Obama, definitely. We don't need a third Bush term. |
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| Don't want either at the moment. Though it is funny how people assume just because i'm black i'll vote for Obama. Oh and they seem to think it automatically means I am a Dem. I think people count out McCain too quickly just because Bush has been in their for almost 8 years. I remember back when John Kerry was running so many people were so sure Bush wouldn't get back in. I mean they were celebrating even before the voting had begun. It's funny when I think about it. |
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| Lol, i don't even know who they are. But i guess Obama since thats where the majority of votes seem to be going. |
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animematt55 said: If Obama wins, you might as well give up all your rights, and quit any job where you make over $20,000 a year. Cause he will steal it, and give it to the inner city Street Gangs. Oh, and he will take away law abiding citizens firearms, leaving only criminals with them. You, sir, are an idiot. The forum mod side of me tells me I can't call you and idiot and walk away so I will convert that ad hominem attack and say that statement is horribly ignorant. |
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Gunbladewarrior said: Don't want either at the moment. Though it is funny how people assume just because i'm black i'll vote for Obama. Oh and they seem to think it automatically means I am a Dem. Well, Republicans have a long history of hating, enslaving, jailing and lynching black people and their policies are generally aimed at making sure the poor get poorer or at least have no ability to acquire wealth. It's unfortunate, but statistically a much higher percentage of black people are in poverty than white people. That might be a coincidence but it's more likely a byproduct of the political landscape. I think people count out McCain too quickly just because Bush has been in their for almost 8 years. I remember back when John Kerry was running so many people were so sure Bush wouldn't get back in. I mean they were celebrating even before the voting had begun. It's funny when I think about it. The situation is a bit different since Obama actually has supporters. Nobody wanted John Kerry to be the president, some people just wanted Bush to not be the president. |
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animematt55 said: If Obama wins, you might as well give up all your rights, and quit any job where you make over $20,000 a year. Cause he will steal it, and give it to the inner city Street Gangs. Oh, and he will take away law abiding citizens firearms, leaving only criminals with them. Hmmm, I give that a 5/10 - you rushed into it too quickly and too brazenly. A good troll doesn't out himself so quick, you need to be more subtle. As for who I'm voting for? I haven't decided. I'm eager to find out who each candidate picks for their running mate, and I'd like to see McCain and Obama square off in a debate a couple of times before I make a final decision. (and hopefully it will be a "debate" and not a corporately sponsored debacle) |
Kaplan said: As for who I'm voting for? I haven't decided. I'm eager to find out who each candidate picks for their running mate, and I'd like to see McCain and Obama square off in a debate a couple of times before I make a final decision. (and hopefully it will be a "debate" and not a corporately sponsored debacle) I doubt that either of these two will be picked as the VP but Karl Rove and John Edwards have scheduled a debate in September so... |
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| Obama all the way~ The thought of McCain in office gives me nightmares. Ugh. |
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| Well i would vote for Obame since we don't need to have allot more wars..^^; |
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| i would vote obama. but really, our votes dont count because of the electoral college |
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| Bleh, neither. What's with only two poll options? |
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Awetumn said: I mean, I've heard a LOT of people in the recent past that were going to vote for Hilary just because she was a woman, or Obama just because he's black. I mean... both of these things certainly are what made/makes this particular election so unique to others in the past, but I don't think they should be deciding factors on a persons vote. SonnyBoi88 said: obama, but i m afraid that when he win, he might get shot =___=;;;; I guess it works backwards too^^ |
| Not American and too young to vote (although, I always wished I could go vote there). But I don't know. I'm pretty sure Obama will be assassinated. But I'm pretty sure he's not what he seems. |
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Awetumn said: Anyhow... I think the moralities policies these candidates are a least voting for or against is where we should really hold worth. Abortion, gun control, gay rights... where ever they stand, a voter should stand too. Sorry, felt like I had to fix that, but I get (and agree with) what you mean. Sadly though, while the current voting demographic has emotion and fervor, they lack knowledge. There are of course exceptions to this rule, there always are. However, there's good reason why it's being projected that so called "low-info" voters are going to be one of the deciding factors in this election. "Low-info." So this election we see more and more, the candidates wanting to make us like them for the person they are, and not necessarily the policy they support. They're counting on the voters who just "feel right" about the candidate, without any real knowledge of what he may do when in office. Hell, that's why Bush succeeded for so long, he played to the low-info crowd and they bought it. One reason I haven't made my own decision on who to back yet is because I don't feel I know enough about each candidate, that information doesn't get parsed out to the general public in a constructive manner. You have biased blogs, biased news, talking-head pundits who are paid to express an opinion, and not fact. At any rate, that's the way elections are going. Until we can vastly improve our educational system, and reform the way our media outlets parse the stories and news, it will only get worse. |
| I'm not American... but if I were then I'd vote Obama. I guess change would be good. But I think whoever gets voted in, regardless of who they are, they will at least be better than Bush. I hope. |
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| I don't really get why everyone in the world says "black president". I mean he seems to have white origins, too, so he is as white as black. So in a sense it makes as much sense to call him a white president than a black one. :P |
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blueberryboat said: Well, Republicans have a long history of hating, enslaving, jailing and lynching black people and their policies are generally aimed at making sure the poor get poorer or at least have no ability to acquire wealth. It's unfortunate, but statistically a much higher percentage of black people are in poverty than white people. That might be a coincidence but it's more likely a byproduct of the political landscape. The situation is a bit different since Obama actually has supporters. Nobody wanted John Kerry to be the president, some people just wanted Bush to not be the president. You say that as if Dems have never done the same. Kerry had supporters too. The way the media, and almost every other thing in America made it seem that Bush was going to lose by a land slide. That's the exact same way people are acting now. People(not just in America) seem to have the blind idea that if Obama, or God knows what other Democrat gets into office that everything in America is going to be fine. Suddenly the poor will get rich, the war will just stop, gas prices will drop, and the world will stop hating on us. You have to remember that no president has had to deal with something like 9/11. He wasn't even in office a full year and all this stuff happened. To some Bush was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It would've happened to Al Gore had he gotten in. God I hate this time of year.-___________- |
GunbladewarriorJul 9, 2008 3:39 PM
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animematt55 said: It is part of his propaganda. He calls himself black to cater to the minority voters and inncer city gangs that he loves oh so much. I mean..the guy was an Illinois senator. Illinois has the strictest gun control, and the highest murder rate. Yet this guy STILL wants to take away the 2nd Amendment. He keeps trying to ban guns to lower crime. yet when you ban guns, crime increases. If you keep doing the same thing expecting different results like that...well it is a sign of insanity. His plan is basically "RAISE TAXES!!" Oh, and if you make money, expect to lose most of it to taxes. He is also super light on crime, especially gang violence. EDIT: he is also a communist. Don't know about you, but I don't want a communist running my country. I prefer a small government that stays out of my business. "socialism" is not the way to do this. You forgot he's also an unpatriotic muslim who was sworn into office on The Quran, and doesn't place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. EDIT: Oh and his wife hates whitey, they have it on tape. |
| I haven't followed McCain very much so I can't speak about where he stands but there is something about Obama that I find vaguely disturbing. Its the cult of personality the man has around him, the fanaticism of his supporters, his association with the Reverend Wright, how his campaign is largely built on feeling and emotion and a need for vague "change" that anyone who lived under the Bush administration would gladly latch onto regardless of who was selling it, how he sees himself as a "blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views." Then there's his recent speech on "A New Era of Service" in which he advocates setting "a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year." In order to accomplish this goal he's going to attach strings to federal education dollars. I'd think America's students, and everyone else for that matter, would like to choose how to spend their time rather than being told to spend it on compulsory national service enforced by a paternalistic government. |
IsambardJul 9, 2008 5:18 PM
| XD all i know is that Jon Stewart make fun of both of them |
| I choose COLBERT! animematt55 said: Isambard said: I'd think America's students, and everyone else for that matter, would like to choose how to spend their time rather than being told to spend it on compulsory national service enforced by a paternalistic government. He is a communist. He WANTS to make America a police/nanny state. Forced community service??? Sounds like slave labor to me. He wants to turn America into Chicago (crime haven) or make it like the UK or Australia. Both which monitor nearly everything, and have a higher violent crime rate than the US. Come on. If he couldnt keep his state under control, how will he control a country? Why is being a Communist a bad thing? You offend me sir. |
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LionMagnus said: MysteriousMerlin said: NEITHER! I'M EXERCISING MY RIGHT NOT TO VOTE! Heh, I think Carlin said it best: "I don't think my vote would mean anything, and at the same time, it would make me very untrue to myself to participate in what I really think is a charade." Exactly this. It also doesn't help that I don't like any of the candidates. |
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Isambard said: I haven't followed McCain very much so I can't speak about where he stands but there is something about Obama that I find vaguely disturbing. Its the cult of personality the man has around him, the fanaticism of his supporters, Every famous politician has a cult of personality. Stalin had one, Hitler had one... but so did Kennedy, Roosevelt, and Churchill. his association with the Reverend Wright, only someone who's only seen that one 30 second clip of Reverend Wright that the news plays over and over would consider this a bad thing. He was a brilliant man with amazing, yet sometimes controversial opinions. Hell, even that one speech he made that the media played that 30 seconds of over and over is damn hard to disagree with when you watch it in the context he gave it in (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdJB-qkfUHc) how his campaign is largely built on feeling and emotion and a need for vague "change" that anyone who lived under the Bush administration would gladly latch onto regardless of who was selling it, I doubt you're old enough to have witnessed very many presidential campaigns, but after a two term president, the candidate from the opposing party always runs on "change." George Bush even did it in 2000. how he sees himself as a "blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views." lolwut? http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ Click the link and you can see his stances on different political issues. I'm not really sure where you would get the idea that someone could run for president without having any political ideas. Especially when the dude's got two best selling books about his political opinions. Then there's his recent speech on "A New Era of Service" in which he advocates setting "a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year." In order to accomplish this goal he's going to attach strings to federal education dollars. I'd think America's students, and everyone else for that matter, would like to choose how to spend their time rather than being told to spend it on compulsory national service enforced by a paternalistic government. You didn't watch the speech, did you? He said he was going to set a goal for high school students to do 50 hours of community service, yeah, but that's just a goal, it isn't mandatory. No federal dollars came into play here. With college students, he said that the government would give the students $4000 in college vouchers in exchange for 100 hours of public service. That's not mandatory either. |
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