| Seriously? Never trust reviews and rankings on this site People should understand, Hand Shakers is not K Even if it's the same studio and the same colorings way , Hand Shakers is not K So if you thougt that it's something like K then you got disappointed , that doesn't mean it deserves 1/10 It's obvious that they are spending tons of money on the this show There's no problem in the Art and voice acting, even if it's about holding hands , it deserves at least 7/10 And honestly I liked the show At least it's better than Hentai no Honkai with 8/10 score ! |
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| Oh my God! I never thought there would be so many supporters of Hand Shakers. :o I wonder what you are interested in this series. - Riri's boobs? - the uninteresting loli Koyori? - the future "false" Yazawa Nico ? - the main character without goal? - ecchi scenes in the bath? - horrible animation with disgusted CGI? - generic story without originality? - the repetitive soundtrack? Please be honest when you answer. :P |
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| Where do I even begin in what is wrong with what you just said? Well, here we go: •WE KNOW!!! We get that this is not K, but the fact of the matter is, we never expected it to be, and the few who did should've known better. We were just expecting an interesting death game battle royal story that was supposed to put this studio on the map. Instead, we got an incoherent and lazy plot with generic and stupid twists, a death game so horribly construed that I have written what amounts to an essay on why it is bad, characters yet are unbelievably one-dimensional and impossible to care about, and a series with little in the way of trying. •No problem with the art? Are you out of your fucking mind?! Even if you like the artstyle and can put up with the CGI, you HAVE to at least admit that there are problems with the visual presentation, like the lighting, the hyperactive camera (especially in episode 1 and in all of the fight scenes),the constant dips in frame rate, the constant reused animation, and the incoherent fight scenes (or at least one of the above). Once again, an essay's worth of paragraphs has been written on why the visual presentation is ass, from everything I just mentioned, to the constant skipping of frames in some fight scenes, horrible CGI integration that makes everything feel unnatural, awful choreography, plenty of moments that are clusterfucks in terms of frame rates and each object that has them, and so...SO much more. •No problems with voice acting? What, with voices that don't fit the character designs (in both sub and dub), and some obnoxious moments of acting (both over and under-acting)? I get that personal opinion applies here, but even still, some of these are wrong no matter how you slice it. •Why is it worth at least a 7? Provide a reason. Sure, I'll prove you wrong in all kinds of ways (and 6,000 or so words consisting of each and every point imaginable), but at least TRY to explain your defensive reasoning! FFS! You come off as immature and bitter, creating asinine excuses to vilify us for hating a show that is riddled with so many problems in every narrative and technological aspect, by saying "you all just wanted another K and game it a 1 because it wasn't K" and all that. No. There are plenty, and I mean PLENTY of reasons for us to hate this show! If you like it, that's fine. I won't villify you for it. However, don't portray us as erroneous and illogical douchebags for disliking something that you like. We hate this show for a variety of legitimate reasons, and you don't. Just, quit egging us for it. This is the third thread about this same exact topic (why is this show around 5.00 on MAL?), and this has to stop. |
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Nou-Tan said: You should have known that even before watching this show lolSeriously? Never trust reviews and rankings on this site It's obvious that they are spending tons of money on the this show I fail to understand your logic when you say that. |
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Symphyon said: It was an ironic assessment, aka, what MozillaFennekin will do when he reviews the show.Gyappu said: I said it once before, and I'll say it again. Hand Shakers is a masterpiece. I know that just by uttering this word I might get tried and executed by all these MAL people who think their opinions/tastes matter more than mine. Story: The premise may seem stupid/weird/strange to many, but rest assured that it is only because of your small, limited minds. You cannot possibly comprehend the level of deep construct that makes this story what it is. It is not your generic "Omg guy/girl has superpowers, omg evil antagonist wants te destroy za world! :O , omg dark scenes/deaths this means anime is 10/10!!!". No. This story holds far more metaphors and symbolism than peasant brains can comprehend. Characters: Probably my favorite part in Hand Shakers. The characters are seemingly simple and straightforward, but only those with enough gray matter can discern the true talent and effort put in their characterization. Every line of dialogue, every gesture and even breathing noises and "Umm" "Uhh" "Hmm" made by a certain silent character have been studied to a fault, I cannot even imagine the amount of time it has taken the writers to present this gift to the world. I stop every few seconds when a character says something, and I just humbly stare into the screen at the pure genius behind it. Animation and Music: What can I say? the music is perfectly fitting for every scene, and I have yet to hear any repetition of any kind. I cannot wait to download the soundtrack when they release it. And the beautiful, masterly crafted art and animation that give all kinds of sensations to my eyes every second does not need anyone defending it. and for those insulting the "weird camera angles"..etc. Please enlighten and educate yourselves a little, those weird angles and changes in camera represent the psyche of each character and how they perceive the world at that moment. This is only one part of many many things you would be able to enjoy if only you opened your minds a little... But I give up. Stick to your abysmal Fate Zero, Shinsekai Yori, Shouwa Genroku and others who cannot compete with Hand Shakers in any aspect. I will say it again, Hand Shakers is the anime of the YEAR. Oh the Blasphemy! Bring on your pitchforks and prepare your burning stakes, I dare you! I won't argue but I will only say three words: Pure. Utter. BS xD people have already said their two cents on the matter with that point tho and how it was executed. |
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Symphyon said: He made an ironic review of Big Order, and given some of his posts on the episodes of this shit pile, he'll definitely do the same here.CodeBlazeFate said: It was an ironic assessment, aka, what MozillaFennekin will do when he reviews the show. Ah I see. Wait I've seen few reviews from Mozilla but I'm not TOO familiar with him overall. |
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| Between Kemono Friends and Hand Shakers, I still choose Kemono Friends. Though it still deserves a 5/10 (the same as Kuzu no Honkai)for the effort. |
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SeijiroUshio said: Between Kemono Friends and Hand Shakers, I still choose Kemono Friends. Though it still deserves a 5/10 (the same as Kuzu no Honkai)for the effort. KnH a 5? You're joking right? |
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| Hand Shakers is utterly disgusting with atrocious graphics and shitty characters. I expected nothing like K when I saw it |
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Symphyon said: That's just a thought but people would see it differently. I think it's a 6-7/10 but then again my opinion doesn't matter much since I only watched one episode. Magister_Jakene said: Hand Shakers is utterly disgusting with atrocious graphics and shitty characters. I expected nothing like K when I saw it I think not a lot of people expected the same way either. At least maybe make something interesting. Agreed. Tbh I didn't even know K and Hand Shakers were made by the same company |
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Kittens-kun said: SeijiroUshio said: Between Kemono Friends and Hand Shakers, I still choose Kemono Friends. Though it still deserves a 5/10 (the same as Kuzu no Honkai)for the effort. KnH a 5? You're joking right? You scored it 8. You're joking too, right? |
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Symphyon said: Magister_Jakene said: Agreed. Tbh I didn't even know K and Hand Shakers were made by the same company Same director as well, tho the funny thing is... I may be wrong how its said. But I've read an article months ago, but basically they tried to make a trademark (which is the colors) to make a name out of themselves, but they failed miserably as hell. It's also worse when some people from that studio even stated or said that some people that were working on this show should leave the studio or at least wouldn't mind leaving the studio, because as its said, they were trying to use it as a trademark, and they failed miserably. As far as I can get the context of this article (tho I can't remember much but it was kind of like this) Someone can try to correct me on this but this is what I at least got from that article. It was basically a desperate attempt of making a trademark but failed horribly at it. Same director, same studio, where did Hand Shakers go wrong? The world may never know |
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| Aside from the scenery porn and OST everything that makes up this anime is uninteresting,bland, and forgetful. To me before I dropped Hand Shakers feels more like a filler production while they finish up K: Seven Kings which I honestly hope is a TV series and not a OVA with a seasonal/monthly release. Also no Angela so another strike to this abomination. |
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TuyNOM said: Oh my God! I never thought there would be so many supporters of Hand Shakers. :o I wonder what you are interested in this series. - Riri's boobs? - the uninteresting loli Koyori? - the future "false" Yazawa Nico ? - the main character without goal? - ecchi scenes in the bath? - horrible animation with disgusted CGI? - generic story without originality? - the repetitive soundtrack? Man, this post actually makes me want to watch it and see for myself. Most of those complaints can be summed up as general fanservice things, which could whittle down the list significantly and still be just as informative, if you weren't determined to draw out your point to make it seem like your criticisms have more value by virtue of length alone. Of course, that's not to defend it, I haven't even seen it, but this is pretty blatantly the case here. Or the unoriginal story being a bad thing, as well. I mean, shit, people praise the everliving fuck out of TTGL despite it being something that takes a ton of tropes and tries to do pretty much absolutely nothing new with it. An unoriginal story is merely a story that has tropes in it that the person saying it doesn't like, and if they are tropes they like it's just a "homage" or "love letter" or something like that. It's just giving a false sense of value to something that could otherwise easily be dismissed and ignored because of how much of that relies on individual perception at its core. And to a degree that can be applied to pretty much every opinion, sure, but preference of writing conventions and direction or path things take relies more heavily on the individual than practically anything else. Either way, I'll picking this up sooner or later. I'm not really being sarcastic or spiteful when I say that you inadvertently got me interested ._. |
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88expert said: *sigh* here we go again...TuyNOM said: Oh my God! I never thought there would be so many supporters of Hand Shakers. :o I wonder what you are interested in this series. - Riri's boobs? - the uninteresting loli Koyori? - the future "false" Yazawa Nico ? - the main character without goal? - ecchi scenes in the bath? - horrible animation with disgusted CGI? - generic story without originality? - the repetitive soundtrack? Please be honest when you answer. :P Riri boobs: What about the boobs in bakuon?? They used them to wash their motorbikes What about the boobs in Occultic;nine?? Those 2 anime have boobs scene in it and NOBODY cares The uninteresting loli: First, she's 16 and she has a reasonable height for a 16 year old. Remember she's has been a sleep for a long time so she won't able to talk make sense and she has lost all her ability in a battle too. The future "False" Yazawa Koyori: We haven't met her yet. We don't know her personality. The main character main goal: I mean he was drag into the world of hand shaker unexpectedly so his still unsure about his goal and what is he going to wish for if he meet god. Also, he's still doubting the existence of god. I mean he did question Chizuru about it in episode 4 whether god is real or not. ecchi bath scene: I see better ecchi bath scene in anime. Isn't that right Yuri on ice. That male Russian butt. But for serious tho. The bath scene in episode 2 is not unnecessary fan-service. I mean if you didn't see it coming when the professor "If you let go of her. She'll die" or "You can let go. She won't die immediately but her death is slowly approaching". THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU. Also, that bath scene reveal a scar on her side. Why she has it?? Only time would tell. Horrible animation with disgusted CGI: I seen worst isn't that right?? Berserk 2016 and ajin?? If only you know how anime is produce. I'm gonna say it, I think they are rushing production isn't seen that they're done. Let's just hope the DVD/ Blue ray look a lot better. Even though some of them look good while some of look kinda meh. Generic story without originality: I can give you some generic stuff. Here I give you chain chronicle. MOVIE 3 YOU HAVE FAIL ME. Also is a royal battle and usually for a battle royal anime is more on the characters stories take Magical girl raising project. The repetitive soundtrack: Is from the same person who did the K music but EVERYBODY love K. Am I right?? This an honest answer from me. If you don't like the show well... just drop it. I mean you aren't getting any money if you watch something don't like. Are you kidding? The internet made a giant shitstorm about the boobs from Occultic;Nine last season, and it, as well as the blitzing speed of pacing of each episode, are what made this show notorious. As for Bakuon, not only have a lot fewer people seen that or claimed it to be notable or notorious, but using your body to clean a motorcycle is obviously a gag as oppose to Lily's boobs bouncing 6 or so inches by listening to her I-pod or whatever happened with the girl's boobs from Occultic;Nine. She does not have a reasonable height for a 16 year old. In fact, none of the high schoolers do; they look like they're 9 years old thanks to thanks to the character models. Also, you're using lack of speech as an excuse? Take a look at Gangsta and the MC who uses sign language. Hell, even this show allows Koyori to emote eventually, so use don't use that as your excuse. Even still, she barely has a personality aside from "I love my (not really) brother". I think he was talking about the prospect of this character. Still a lame twist. Even still, he needs to have a goal soon. In fact, he should have a goal right now: try to survive as long as possible until I find a grander purpose. It really was pointless. There are plenty of other ways that they could've shown the scar without an incest undertone shower scene in which the MC nosebleeds at the sight of Koyori naked. That's basically the only reason they did it that way. Even Berserk 2016 isn't noted for constant frame drops or for bad lighting. Plus, at least the CGI has intricate detail, even if it looks bad in motion when added with everything else. Hell, Ajin doesn't have the frame rate problem either and the CGI, while unappealing, doesn't clash with everything in terms of style and cohesion, since even the characters are CG. This show has awful frame rate, bad lighting, awful and lightless reused footage, awful fire and explosion effects, and so, so much else that's wrong with the visuals. The only decent things are the details in the character designs and the CG backgrounds (on their own). This is generic stuff too. Generic characters that are more annoying and bland archetype than character, generic and stale plot twists, and...everything, really. Even the stupid concept isn't interesting or innovative, partly due to its stupidity and how badly the story tries to militate the damage. Not everyone loves K. Get out of that bubble. Even still, chances are that K's OST was more interesting and more varied than this bland and repetitive soundtrack. There are more reasons to watch a show than enjoying it. Sometimes it's because you've gotten a craving for something bad to put the good in perspective. Sometimes it's to see how bad it is intelationtk how bad people claim it to be. In my case, it's a mix of both the latter and wanting to savagely roast a show that put me through hell; episode 1 broke me and I'm staying just to get revenge adrevel in my hatred, as unhealthy as that is. |
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88expert said: Doesn't matter how important she is. People bitched about the boobs constantly, even more so than with Lily's boobs here.CodeBlazeFate said: *sigh* here we go again... Are you kidding? The internet made a giant shitstorm about the boobs from Occultic;Nine last season, and it, as well as the blitzing speed of pacing of each episode, are what made this show notorious. As for Bakuon, not only have a lot fewer people seen that or claimed it to be notable or notorious, but using your body to clean a motorcycle is obviously a gag as oppose to Lily's boobs bouncing 6 or so inches by listening to her I-pod or whatever happened with the girl's boobs from Occultic;Nine. She does not have a reasonable height for a 16 year old. In fact, none of the high schoolers do; they look like they're 9 years old thanks to thanks to the character models. Also, you're using lack of speech as an excuse? Take a look at Gangsta and the MC who uses sign language. Hell, even this show allows Koyori to emote eventually, so use don't use that as your excuse. Even still, she barely has a personality aside from "I love my (not really) brother". I think he was talking about the prospect of this character. Still a lame twist. Even still, he needs to have a goal soon. In fact, he should have a goal right now: try to survive as long as possible until I find a grander purpose. It really was pointless. There are plenty of other ways that they could've shown the scar without an incest undertone shower scene in which the MC nosebleeds at the sight of Koyori naked. That's basically the only reason they did it that way. Even Berserk 2016 isn't noted for constant frame drops or for bad lighting. Plus, at least the CGI has intricate detail, even if it looks bad in motion when added with everything else. Hell, Ajin doesn't have the frame rate problem either and the CGI, while unappealing, doesn't clash with everything in terms of style and cohesion, since even the characters are CG. This show has awful frame rate, bad lighting, awful and lightless reused footage, awful fire and explosion effects, and so, so much else that's wrong with the visuals. The only decent things are the details in the character designs and the CG backgrounds (on their own). This is generic stuff too. Generic characters that are more annoying and bland archetype than character, generic and stale plot twists, and...everything, really. Even the stupid concept isn't interesting or innovative, partly due to its stupidity and how badly the story tries to militate the damage. Not everyone loves K. Get out of that bubble. Even still, chances are that K's OST was more interesting and more varied than this bland and repetitive soundtrack. There are more reasons to watch a show than enjoying it. Sometimes it's because you've gotten a craving for something bad to put the good in perspective. Sometimes it's to see how bad it is intelationtk how bad people claim it to be. In my case, it's a mix of both the latter and wanting to savagely roast a show that put me through hell; episode 1 broke me and I'm staying just to get revenge adrevel in my hatred, as unhealthy as that is. The girl in occultic;nine became the most important characters. So will she I bet of that. What do you mean by "a lot fewer people" Is it a lot of people or a few people?? No I think he is referring to the idol chick in the preview. Right now he is trying not to lose as if he lose Koyori would die and that's not good. He has been question by that glasses guy in episode 5 "Why are you fighting to crush the wish of others"? And I bet that line would be in his mind for a long time. Why must he fight. He doesn't have a wish. Incest?? I don't think Koyori and Tazuna are blood related. Man... I can give you generic story and characters. Here are some: Yuri on ice, Chain chronicle, Akiba's trip the animation, Battery, hundred, K and Taboo tattoo. Ok, fine not everybody of people likes K but majority in the community loves it. So... It has the same music in K. I could care less if it has pretty animation or not. Cause pretty color alone is not enough for me to continue a show. if you don't like the show. Why are you still watching?? I drop kuzu no honkai because I think I what the title suit it perfectly TRASH'S WISH!!! Cause is that is trash. We don't find love to do sex. That's not true love and is not right and I hate it A lot less. Isn't that obvious? We know he doesn't have a wish. He should at least have a short term goal: make it far in this game and learn more about my new information. Doesn't matter. SAO proved that it counts even if they're not blood related. Plenty of generic anime have. So can I. Fate/Grand Order: First Order, SAO, Mahouka, The Asterisk War. I can go on. Doesn't invalidate my point. Try to actually prove why these characters aren't generic. There we go. Still, using K to invalidate the point of Hand Shakers having bad music doesn't work. Even still, it plays a factor in the quality of an anime. I told you, partly due to revenge, and partly to see if it's as bad as people say (it is worse, at least to me). |
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| You're totally right about MAL scores means absolute nothing. Just look at Konosuba's S2 rating. That 8.4 score is offensive to human intelligence, it just proves that everything in this community is based on hype. BUT you're very, VEEEEEEEEEEERY wrong about Hand Shakers being any good. I'm sorry, but you can cleary see even from the PV that this show would fail in many ways. I'm really sorry bro, but as everyone mentioned above me in the comments, this is a garbage-tier anime. |
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88expert said: Murasa22 said: You're totally right about MAL scores means absolute nothing. Just look at Konosuba's S2 rating. That 8.4 score is offensive to human intelligence, it just proves that everything in this community is based on hype. BUT you're very, VEEEEEEEEEEERY wrong about Hand Shakers being any good. I'm sorry, but you can cleary see even from the PV that this show would fail in many ways. I'm really sorry bro, but as everyone mentioned above me in the comments, this is a garbage-tier anime. Not really. Usually the hate are a. nippick of the nippick. or b. They didn't catch all the info the show provide in the start or c. People join the hate train because why not?? Everybody is hating on it a.This show has awful frame rate, bad lighting, awful and lightless reused footage, awful fire and explosion effects, and so, so much else that's wrong with the visuals. The only decent things are the details in the character designs and the CG backgrounds (on their own). totally a nitpick, a show that is unwatchable is totaly nitpicking it's not that the show didnt even put in any effort to look passable, nope it's cause we suck b. to my knowledge, hand shakers is even a mystery show, if a show that isnt mystery is dumping info for you and that info is needed to even watch the show, it's not good c. this isnt sao or re:zero, there is no reason for a hate train, there was no hype for his show. 1 look at the cover, and you wouldnt even watch it |
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88expert said: Scarlett_ryuken said: a.This show has awful frame rate, bad lighting, awful and lightless reused footage, awful fire and explosion effects, and so, so much else that's wrong with the visuals. The only decent things are the details in the character designs and the CG backgrounds (on their own). totally a nitpick, a show that is unwatchable is totaly nitpicking it's not that the show didnt even put in any effort to look passable, nope it's cause we suck b. to my knowledge, hand shakers is even a mystery show, if a show that isnt mystery is dumping info for you and that info is needed to even watch the show, it's not good c. this isnt sao or re:zero, there is no reason for a hate train, there was no hype for his show. 1 look at the cover, and you wouldnt even watch it a. TBH, I don't care about art/ animation. Cause good art/ animation doesn't always has a good story b. Is not a mystery but they are some shows out that aren't mystery but have some mystery element to it. Like Re zero c. But the hate is just odd cause are we watching the same thing?? Cause I think the show deserve more than a 4-5 scoring. Hell, even some anime that are god awful have a high score. Isn't that right Yuri on ice?? a.true it doesnt, but there's bad art, and then there's unwatchable, if the show is making you shit from watching it, it doesnt matter how good the "story" is. if i wanted a good story, i rather read manga. people expect a minimum amount of work and effort in the show they watch, not something, uni grads without experience can make. b. you are either just ignoring the fact that even the people who praised re:zero found the mystery a bit lacking, and even re:zero didnt require you to "pay attention" to it. if you need to pay attention to even watch a show, it's not a good show. c.the hate isnt odd, i can say the same for shows like school days, and i can make an exact same thread like this, wanna know why i dont? i aint a pussy that cant accept public opinion |
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