| During the 70s, 80s and 90s political and military space operas like Gundam, Macross, Space Battleship Yamato, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Galaxy Express 999, Aim for the Top! Gunbuster and Space Pirate Captain Harlock were some of the most popular works and for good reason. Nowadays the genre has almost disapeared with only a few Macross and Gundam series coming out and some other not that good examples like Aldnoah. Zero. What do you guys think that happened? Will we ever see a renascence of this amazing genre? |
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| Oldschool anime is really cool because it had space opera like Galactic Heroes who have good story and really cool characters like Reinhard, not like beta pussy weak bullied by tsundere main characters we have now. There were also beautiful girls like Hayase and Lin Minmay, not fanservice big boobs like anime today. Anime is surely but slowly dyeing. We will sadly most ceratinly never see a revival of this epic genre. |
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| I'm not sure. To be perfectly frank it's one of if not my favorite genre. I wish we had more of it. That and historical fiction. |
| wouldnt work in todays climate in all honesty just because we dont make more doesnt mean there isnt a ton more to be watched from the past |
| I doubt anime watcher nowadays want to watch an anime that take place in a completely black background and a spaceship. |
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moodie said: wouldnt work in todays climate in all honesty just because we dont make more doesnt mean there isnt a ton more to be watched from the past To be honest yeah there are lot's of stuff to watch (and they are all super long) but try to imagine what a new story with the magnitude and scale of Gundam 0079 with todays animation!!! It would just be amazing! We also have some gundam spin offs or even some upcoming sequels. (Galactic Heroes for example) |
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tr1ckst3r said: I doubt anime watcher nowadays want to watch an anime that take place in a completely black background and a spaceship. I do. Then again, I'm probably the minority. And who said it had to be completely black? You can have other things in the background like planets, stars, and galaxies. |
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Retro_Chocolate said: But it's mostly black, sometimes they put a lot of stars but they rarely put a planetes iirc.tr1ckst3r said: I doubt anime watcher nowadays want to watch an anime that take place in a completely black background and a spaceship. I do. Then again, I'm probably the minority. And who said it had to be completely black? You can have other things in the background like planets, stars, and galaxies. Anime nowadays mostly goes with something more colorful and fantasy-esque type of story. |
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You_Go_Now said: During the 70s, 80s and 90s political and military space operas like Gundam, Macross, Space Battleship Yamato, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Galaxy Express 999, Aim for the Top! Gunbuster and Space Pirate Captain Harlock were some of the most popular works and for good reason. Nowadays the genre has almost disapeared with only a few Macross and Gundam series coming out and some other not that good examples like Aldnoah. Zero. What do you guys think that happened? Will we ever see a renascence of this amazing genre? things become popular and die off... lol thats not an anime thing... thats a society thing back in the 50s and 60s space related movies were abundant due to the space race, and now theyre pretty uncommon you're now starting to see "trapped in a game" or game related anime pop up everywhere since video games are becoming a mainstream part of society and virtual reality is being worked on |
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| It's because hentai has infiltrated the mainstream giving us Ecchi and Harems that the other irrelevant genres died. |
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| It's sad I know. Most people want cute girls doing cute things and space isn't really that cute... Well, it's rather cute actually. |
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| They floated away into the depths of space. |
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| Isn't Production I.G doing a remake of the Legend of the Galactic Heroes series? |
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amk_2397 said: Isn't Production I.G doing a remake of the Legend of the Galactic Heroes series? I think it is a sequel... But even then that is part of franchise and not an original work. It is still Way better than nothing. |
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| I don't think I would want to see a modern-day Space Opera anime. Why? The animation would probably be terrible because of perfected characters and lack of a realistic approach, the storyline would be terrible (because frankly, does story even matter anymore in anime nowadays?), the fanservice would be a main priority, the characters would all be moaning children without any form of depth, and the epicness of 80s and 90s nostalgia would be lost. I'd rather immerse myself in what I can find from thirty or twenty years ago. |
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| Well there was the reboot of Yamato, but nowadays it's mostly SoL and romcoms that people tend to gravitate towards |
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| Well, there was the Yamato remake a few years ago which was brilliant. Edit: Ninja. |
| If you generalize, you're wrong. |
| They re-made some of those. People prefer psychological and post apocalyptic space kind things now. |
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| I agree that there needs to be more space/opera/adventure series. I personally really enjoyed a few of the lesser known ones like Heroic Age, Crest of the Stars, Infinite Ryvius, Stratos 4, and Starship Operators. |
KruszerMar 17, 2016 4:55 PM
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Lestat- said: I don't think I would want to see a modern-day Space Opera anime. Why? The animation would probably be terrible because of perfected characters and lack of a realistic approach, the storyline would be terrible (because frankly, does story even matter anymore in anime nowadays?), the fanservice would be a main priority, the characters would all be moaning children without any form of depth, and the epicness of 80s and 90s nostalgia would be lost. I'd rather immerse myself in what I can find from thirty or twenty years ago. Just a reminder that Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 happened, and it was good (although admittedly not as well-written as older space operas) |
| Most of them weren't that good anyway. I've watched the old gundam, Gunbuster, most of Legend of the Galactic heroes, the first few episodes of Macross and the Yamato remake. And i must say, i'm not too impressed. |
| How much space opera do you want each season OP... 2-3 per season..? LoL ps: I love Aldnoah.Zero 10/10 |
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| It is moe~ loli~ sis complex age now. |
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| To be frank, space opera anime (old and new) are not that really great in terms of overall writing, but they are definitely good at the things/ideas these shows were trying to put into introspection within their storylines. More often, the problem with these shows (or really, with just about any space opera fiction/story in general) is whether the author/writer really took care of writing a storyline that doesn't break the audience's/viewer's suspension of disbelief (which will definitely affect the viewer's enjoyment towards a certain show), especially considering whether if said author took a good amount of thinking about certain subjects he/she had put into his/her storyline. The real difficulty is on whether the events that had happened is really that believable according to the laws written by that storyline or those events are just written for convenience. That being said, most of the animated series of this genre were more focused on taking care of "opera" and some other stuff than taking care of both "space" and "opera". After all, drama sells, doesn't it? |
Frankies_MonsterMar 17, 2016 6:44 PM
ilovewendy16 said: sign me up for this too, maybe it will be out soon.ExTamplier said: Don't you mean the best age? how about a space opera about a moe loli in love with her sister. 10 out of 10 would watch.It is moe~ loli~ sis complex age now. |
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ExTamplier said: You guys should write a script and send it to Deeen.ilovewendy16 said: sign me up for this too, maybe it will be out soon.Don't you mean the best age? how about a space opera about a moe loli in love with her sister. 10 out of 10 would watch. |
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ilovewendy16 said: Yeah, but watch out. Deen might make the whole thing into a shota yoai.CrappyGod-sama said: sign me the fuck up, i am willing and ready.You guys should write a script and send it to Deeen. |
| I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
Mamster-P said: Actually there's a lot of truth in this. Right now we're in the 'augmented-reality-race' I guess.You_Go_Now said: During the 70s, 80s and 90s political and military space operas like Gundam, Macross, Space Battleship Yamato, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Galaxy Express 999, Aim for the Top! Gunbuster and Space Pirate Captain Harlock were some of the most popular works and for good reason. Nowadays the genre has almost disapeared with only a few Macross and Gundam series coming out and some other not that good examples like Aldnoah. Zero. What do you guys think that happened? Will we ever see a renascence of this amazing genre? things become popular and die off... lol thats not an anime thing... thats a society thing back in the 50s and 60s space related movies were abundant due to the space race, and now theyre pretty uncommon you're now starting to see "trapped in a game" or game related anime pop up everywhere since video games are becoming a mainstream part of society and virtual reality is being worked on But the question remains; why can't we have a politically charged 'trapped-in-a-game' anime? Why have we drifted away a little bit from those political themes? |
| Currently, self-inserts and fan service are what sells in Japan... I think. (pls don't believe me, i have no reference here) Now how about we send an otaku to space? and give him a harem while we're at it lol like space-GATE or outbreak company or something... |
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ronpdee said: Currently, self-inserts and fan service are what sells in Japan... I think. (pls don't believe me, i have no reference here) Now how about we send an otaku to space? and give him a harem while we're at it lol like space-GATE or outbreak company or something... It's been done. It's called Soul Link. |
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97" |
| One can only dream... In the meantime however I think we'll have Light Novel magic battle harem adaptations to our hearts' contents! |
| Its because shit like that doesn't sell anymore.Fucking horny ass pedo otakus only buy moe shit and shit |
| because legend of the galactic heroes happened and nothing can compete to that elitist masterpiece jk, I honestly have no idea |
| They still do a few; they're just not very popular atm. My question is when will they make an ecchi harem space opera with really tight space suits and space high schools? |
| No! We need more trapped in a game world anime! |
| I don't like space operas too much so I have no problem with them disappearing, it's still a popular genre with some people though so I can see why it bothers them. |
| i think the reason is that we became more realistic. back in the 70s/80s it seemed possible that by 20XX/21XX we will have all this futuristic things like artifical humans, flying cars, real space ships (blade runner is set in 2019! or 2001/2010), therefore those space operas and other sci fi works were more a glimpse of the future or at least a possible dream. nowadays we know that by 2150 we won't fly to distant stars, live on a teraformed mars - modern sci fi movies often have a very realistic setting and something like trapped in a virtual world or beeing part of a mars mission seems possible. |
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| In our current age, high school romcoms and ecchi harems is what sells, so clearly we will see more of that, than space operas. If the otakus and weebs suddenly were to be more interested in space operas, you can be certain we would be seeing more of that. |
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| I think it's a type of mentality. 90's were also full of techno-paranoia and angst. Industrial music and Nu Metal were big. People these days are simply not as interested by these subjects anymore. Why is it so - a question I cannot answer. |
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You_Go_Now said: What do you guys think that happened? Will we ever see a renascence of this amazing genre? First and foremost, the development of anime has always closely tied with what society was concerned with at a given time. If you pay attention to these old space operas, you will see the affects of the Space Race, and the fear of Nazism, Communism or Racism. Now that these social topics are no longer the topics of concern or interest, Space Opera, which is a genre of anime that heavily explored these topics, would logically be less common. Secondly, Space Operas usually have various plots going on at the same time due to their tendency to involve a HUGE cast of characters without a specific focus on any (apart from the main character). This form of story telling might also put people off. Will we ever see a revival of this great genre? Perhaps. If a new space race occurs, or when space exploration becomes a more heated topic again, I do believe there is a potential for Space Operas to make a return. |
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