| Good evening haters. ( I don't give a shit in what time zone you live tbh, it's evening for me) I have to dissapoint you, but unfortunately Urobutcher likes doing anime movies more nowadays. I'm looking at you Rakuen Tsuihou and Madoka. That's why he left this season to Kumagai Jun. All of this is just a big commercial for an upcoming PP anime movie. This new writer is not Urobutcher and everyone must keep that in mind, from what I have seen so far he's doing quite a decent job , but that could change any time considering the "reputation" of this new writer. I personally view this sequel as "extra" story and not as continuation of the series and I have no problems with it, except for Mika, that bitch is annoying as fuck. Want to get spoiled? Read the Synopsis of Psycho Pass movie: That's all I'm going to sleep. |
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| I think people are comparing it to much to the first season. There might be some similarities (well duh it's the same world) but it is NOT the same all over again. The second season has the disadvantage that we already know the world and we even know the truth behind the Sibyl system. So it's not as fresh and exciting. But there are still a bunch of mysteries to be unraveled. I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. I actually like it pretty much so far. But everyone still has the right to have their opinion even if I do not agree with it. |
| Pretty much this ^ I think this season has been good so far. A lot of the season 1 watchers must have done the same thing as me and marathoned the entire thing which gave the maximum enjoyment experience so comparing THAT with this is setting a high standard. |
mayukachan said: Pretty much this ^ I think this season has been good so far. A lot of the season 1 watchers must have done the same thing as me and marathoned the entire thing which gave the maximum enjoyment experience so comparing THAT with this is setting a high standard. i did the marathon but i'm starting to prefer this season over the first (that can change easily) |
| i do not know who is this new writer you speaking of but the overall story composition is being made by this man - http://myanimelist.net/people/2229/Ubukata_Tow he is responsible for the Mardock Scramble story so he is not new on making sci-fi stories like Psycho-Pass and i do not see much haters for this sequel to be honest |
| Nothing really unexpected. I find it ridiculous, but people apparently expect sequels to trump original stuff within 2 to 3 episodes. That's like watching the second movie in any trilogy (like LOTR or Star Wars) and expecting it to outdo the first movie in the first 10 minutes alone. |
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| No Makishima, who got a great deal of screen time in comparison to this seasons antagonist who has spent the majority of the series in the dark. For that reason he himself is not that interesting, his drive is the thing that's interesting, and even then it's incredibly frustrating as we have to see it through the eyes of the most zombie-like characters we've seen in recent seasons. People fully following the awful Sibyl system. Season one featured a couple of radicals who didn't put full faith in it, this season we are treated to characters like Mika. Ginoza wasn't as obnoxious as her in the first season in the slightest. Villain isn't as compelling or likeable, we've lost the male main character who got shit done in season one, we've lost all the enforcers who got a tonne of screen time and spent a lot of the series imparting wisdom and mentoring Akane. This season the enforcers are just... there. The series lost a lot by the end of the first season and they haven't really tried to build it back up, they just... continued it without filling in the pretty big gaps. I'm still really enjoying it, but I doubt it's going to come even remotely close to the first season for me. |
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| I like psycho pass first and second season. It's good quality anime and because it's in an interesting universe with interesting premise i still like the second season. Nonetheless i am quite disappointed at the quality drop with the story and detail in second season. The first season is a lot better thought out, no doubt there. So am i hater although i like both seasons, but do acknowledge the huge gap in quality? |
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| Personally, I think this season has started off great so far. It's too early to compare it to season 1 as there are many things yet to be revealed. But overall, I have the sensation that the people behind the story know exactly where they're going which is very reassuring. And I absolutely love Akane's new confident character, totally contrasting with season 1. Give it faith guys, I'm sure we'll not be disappointed ;) |
| To put it simply I don't find the new cast interesting (besides maybe Mika, haven't made up my mind on her) and the acts of terrorism have been to ridiculous and cartoony to take seriously, I'm finding myself laughing instead of being horrified |
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| The main difference is the cast. They're not as interesting as the previous—mika's a bitch, the quiet guy is pretty irrelevant so far and the other guy... Well, idk. They got no flare to them, you know? That doesn't mean I hate the series; I'm still loving it. |
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Tyrel said: The main difference is the cast. They're not as interesting as the previous—mika's a bitch, the quiet guy is pretty irrelevant so far and the other guy... Well, idk. They got no flare to them, you know? That doesn't mean I hate the series; I'm still loving it. I agree about the new characters. I don't dislike them but I don't really care for them either. |
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| No Kougami. No Makishima. Stupid Mika bitch annoys the hell out of me. Wish this season didn't exist because I'm almost certain it's going to make this series leave a bad taste in my mouth. Nuff said. The only good part about this season is that Akane is more likeable than she was last season. |
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| pretty much comparing to S2. Not pretty fair, and no way to enjoy something. It's also shorter. |
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| I haven't gotten around to starting this season yet, though I'd like to point out that the first half of the first season was, well, no where near as good as the second half. I mean, it was pretty good, but it wasn't until the induction of makishima into the cast, the gradual reveals on the sybil system, and the intensifying action began that the show became remarkable. Before then it had interesting ideas that hadn't been taken very far, characters that weren't all they could be, and the story certainly wasn't as compelling. So long as they get by with a good season, even if it isn't anywhere near as good as the first, it is quite possible that the movie will be the second season's second half (i.e. the movie could very possibly bring the show to a whole new level, you never know.) With that hopeful attitude... if only I could just bring myself to watch this show despite the negative feedback I've heard from a whispering wind or two. I really want to like this series, so I'm definitely going in without expectations. |
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| I think this season is great so far! Except Mika who can go die in a fucking hole is annoying. |
| I honestly think this season is better than the first imo |
| I agree with what most people are saying here. Personally I feel that this season cannot be on par with the first season so far but I have to admit that as a fan of the Psycho-Pass universe, I still enjoy the second season a lot. Akane is the main reason that I want to keep on watching the show, her character development in season 1 was so strong that I really just wanted to see how much she has changed and I wasn't even the least bit disappointed to see her character in season 2. Ginoza, Yayoi and Shion also play the factors towards me wanting to continue on in this show, the new characters haven't really brought my attention to them and division 3 is definitely the worst group of characters to be introduced (they suck balls big time). The only character introduced this season that I am truly impressed by is Joji Saiga. Although he wasn't necessarily introduced this season, he still impressed me a lot in the latest epsiode since we were given a different view of how he shows his skills as compared to how he did in season 1 (by helping Kogami). Nonetheless, I will still wanna continue on in this show as I find it interesting and it doesn't really deserve all the hate it is getting. |
| In all honesty, all the hate comes from people being whiny because they have nothing better to do. They get blinded by their own nostalgia, they compare a 24 episode finished season to a story that's less than 6 episodes in. They want all the answers right away forgetting the fact that there is still over have the season to go, plus a movie. In the end it's just people complaining for the sake of complaining, and because they think everything should go their way. |
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| At some point I saw a thread here saying S2 was better when compared with S1 and I said with honesty that it was awful and a disgrace. That's all. |
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kingcity20 said: In all honesty, all the hate comes from people being whiny because they have nothing better to do. They get blinded by their own nostalgia, they compare a 24 episode finished season to a story that's less than 6 episodes in. They want all the answers right away forgetting the fact that there is still over have the season to go, plus a movie. In the end it's just people complaining for the sake of complaining, and because they think everything should go their way. Yeah, I agree. |
| I don't know why people hate blindly.This season has got only 11 eps and we have been blessed by 5 eps only.We haven't even seen all the episodes yet and they are hating it just because of a few things being unexplained?Don't worry we have next 6 eps and hopefully we are gonna get our answers.If each and everything were to be explained in each episode,people would most probably say that,"The anime is being rushed.What's the hurry?" So far the anime is going at a steady pace and that's a good thing.And some of you people not liking the new characters because they are in love with the S1 characters,I say Great!Fantastic!No one gives a shit about it!These 11 eps can only contain a cast that has to be described in the least possible time otherwise the series would be more concentrated on the characters and less on the plot! |
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| The Plot is not very interesting,because it's essential the same plot as season 1. We already know what the villain wants,so the only real mystery is why he can't be detected by the system. The characters spent a lot time trying to figure out if Kamui is real or not,which is boring since we already know the answer. Speaking of characters,they aren't very good. Only Mika got a reasonable amount of screentime and she sucks. I despite her even more after epiosde 5. She thinks her way of doing things is better than Akane's and, even though her way just got serveral people killed ,she is not even reconsidering her actions. Sakuya has potential,I just hope they start doing something with that potential soon. |
| IMO Mika is an understandable character. If we look at her previous appearance in Season 1, she's already the way she is. And for me, she's so arrogant to the point I laughed at her very bad words and attitudes. I love Togane though. Especially Akane. She's the star of the series. Mostly people are disappointed because they compared it to season 1 (when it's given 2cour) and there's no Kougami/Makishima in it. Doesn't matter to me. I have Akane. |
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kingcity20 said: In all honesty, all the hate comes from people being whiny because they have nothing better to do. They get blinded by their own nostalgia, they compare a 24 episode finished season to a story that's less than 6 episodes in. They want all the answers right away forgetting the fact that there is still over have the season to go, plus a movie. In the end it's just people complaining for the sake of complaining, and because they think everything should go their way. What a bunch of assumptions you're making here. This season isn't as good so far because the characters are far from being as interesting. They're incredibly bland, and I don't know if I'll even be able to get to like them when there's only 5 episodes left. |
| Slightly disappointing compared to the first season. |
| Oh god who are you people? |
| just very dissapointing second season so far. i dont expect it to be better. it would be nice if it were ofcourse but as of now its far worse in many aspects..especially characters and writing. |
kingcity20 said: In all honesty, all the hate comes from people being whiny because they have nothing better to do. They get blinded by their own nostalgia, they compare a 24 episode finished season to a story that's less than 6 episodes in. They want all the answers right away forgetting the fact that there is still over have the season to go, plus a movie. In the end it's just people complaining for the sake of complaining, and because they think everything should go their way. Answers???? Nobody was demanding answers as much as better quality in the plot. Season 1 was more enjoyable and there were constantly more questions to be answered, while in season 2 there aren't many questions to be asked. Kamui is also stupidly portrayed. |
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| Just like the 1st Season went to its bitter end, this one still screams at me "I'm not Ghost in the Shell!!". (Mostly that, or some other awesome series few years back.) It is ruining the watching experience for me, really. |
| You put "Psycho Pass 2" in your title and you damn well bring your A game. This was supposed to be a sequel of the first season but what ended happening is that the studio decided to make half the episodes of the first season and completely go on to a different direction from the first season. The development of what Kougami is up to or where he is hiding is no where to be seen and the whole idea of taking down Sybill because it is corrupt is gone. Instead we get a boring antagonist with even more boring supporting characters. New characters from other divisions get killed off soon after they are introduced and people characters aren't being developed at all. Throw in the fact there are plot holes in every episodes and slow pacing and you have a recipe for a disaster. Not even aspecting this to be on par with the first season at this point, I just want it to be decent enough where I am not facepalming every week. |
| I'm reserving judgement until we see how it ends. I'm not expecting much from Kamui but I'm looking forward to seeing what happens between Tougane and Akane. What happens with those two will make or break the season for me. Even if it does turn out bad, well, at least Akane no longer looks like an acorn. |
Darkdrone said: You put "Psycho Pass 2" in your title and you damn well bring your A game. This was supposed to be a sequel of the first season but what ended happening is that the studio decided to make half the episodes of the first season and completely go on to a different direction from the first season. The development of what Kougami is up to or where he is hiding is no where to be seen and the whole idea of taking down Sybill because it is corrupt is gone. Instead we get a boring antagonist with even more boring supporting characters. New characters from other divisions get killed off soon after they are introduced and people characters aren't being developed at all. Throw in the fact there are plot holes in every episodes and slow pacing and you have a recipe for a disaster. Not even aspecting this to be on par with the first season at this point, I just want it to be decent enough where I am not facepalming every week. unfortunately, I have to disagree with what you say. Even though there are some slight writing convenicnes or inconsistencies, they still pretty much adhere to the plot as a whole. If there are apparently holes in the story, I don't think they were substancial enough to spoil my enjoyment. Furthermore, I also do not agree with how this is basically a rehash of season 1 because s1 was about finding out the flaws of system whereas s2 was about exposing the flaws to everyone else. Coupled with the side plot of Tougane's obsession with Akane and I sometimes find myself preferring this to Makshima being a walking encyclopedia at times despite me liking the latter villain. I think that the biggest hole might be the assault dominator 2 episodes ago but even then, I don't really see it as a huge issue because Ayonagi would have died anyway. Overall, while I believe this season to be inferior to season 1, the good still outweigh the bad and the enjoyment factor is there. Even though this is MAL, people being so salty and toxic about this season is sometimes uncalled for. It is one thing to call it inferior, but it is another to call it a total flop because it would make it seem that some people are just overblowing the problems out of proportion |
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Isaidlunch said: I'm reserving judgement until we see how it ends. I'm not expecting much from Kamui but I'm looking forward to seeing what happens between Tougane and Akane. What happens with those two will make or break the season for me. Even if it does turn out bad, well, at least Akane no longer looks like an acorn. Same goes for me. |
kingcity20 said: In all honesty, all the hate comes from people being whiny because they have nothing better to do. They get blinded by their own nostalgia, they compare a 24 episode finished season to a story that's less than 6 episodes in. They want all the answers right away forgetting the fact that there is still over have the season to go, plus a movie. In the end it's just people complaining for the sake of complaining, and because they think everything should go their way. Basically this. Also people complaining about the enforcers dying off within a couple of screentime I just really hate Mika, and still confused on how Sybil works aside from the collection of brains thing. And I find the akane from the past season just a teezy bit more better than this. Last season she was both light hearted and takes her job seriously, but this season she wasn't as humourous as before. The way she used to be light hearted and had her hue low like that isn't there any more, it's just as if her hue is low just like that. But then again it was an year ago, but to think Gino's and akane's sweet and bitterness almost swapped. |
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Blaze_ said: Also people complaining about the enforcers dying off within a couple of screentime |
| I don't see why people expect so much more focus on other enforcers from the other divisions, last Psycho Pass we didn't even get to much see the other divisions, let alone have their members actually do anything on the level of this one. |
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Szadek23 said: Blaze_ said: Also people complaining about the enforcers dying off within a couple of screentime The big difference here is that division 3 were nothing more than side characters/bystanders, they were never meant to be important or make you feel attached. Their role was to enhance the atmosphere and the situation. Whereas in the case of mami, even though I was fine with her death, some people found it a problem because she was listed as a main character. The comparison you are making is not viable |
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| The above poster is right, plus people with complaints and rage tend to be more vocal than ones who are content or happy in anything in life. |
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| I second the 2 posts above mine. The general consensus is that this season is still good as it is, if it was not we would have another sequel of eureka 7 |
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clevername03 said: Have you looked at the score for season 2 of psycho pass? There has been hardly any hate. A score of 8.21 puts it above most anime on this site. Maybe a better title for this thread would be, "Why do some people dislike something that most people like?" |
zerriet said: Darkdrone said: You put "Psycho Pass 2" in your title and you damn well bring your A game. This was supposed to be a sequel of the first season but what ended happening is that the studio decided to make half the episodes of the first season and completely go on to a different direction from the first season. The development of what Kougami is up to or where he is hiding is no where to be seen and the whole idea of taking down Sybill because it is corrupt is gone. Instead we get a boring antagonist with even more boring supporting characters. New characters from other divisions get killed off soon after they are introduced and people characters aren't being developed at all. Throw in the fact there are plot holes in every episodes and slow pacing and you have a recipe for a disaster. Not even aspecting this to be on par with the first season at this point, I just want it to be decent enough where I am not facepalming every week. unfortunately, I have to disagree with what you say. Even though there are some slight writing convenicnes or inconsistencies, they still pretty much adhere to the plot as a whole. If there are apparently holes in the story, I don't think they were substancial enough to spoil my enjoyment. Furthermore, I also do not agree with how this is basically a rehash of season 1 because s1 was about finding out the flaws of system whereas s2 was about exposing the flaws to everyone else. Coupled with the side plot of Tougane's obsession with Akane and I sometimes find myself preferring this to Makshima being a walking encyclopedia at times despite me liking the latter villain. I think that the biggest hole might be the assault dominator 2 episodes ago but even then, I don't really see it as a huge issue because Ayonagi would have died anyway. Overall, while I believe this season to be inferior to season 1, the good still outweigh the bad and the enjoyment factor is there. Even though this is MAL, people being so salty and toxic about this season is sometimes uncalled for. It is one thing to call it inferior, but it is another to call it a total flop because it would make it seem that some people are just overblowing the problems out of proportion You don't see the problem. This season is not even your average-okay standard. Its actually way below average. Tell me one thing, how are the dominators blowing up selective parts of people in this episode? Shisui literally blew up an enforcers leg. His body didn't blow up. While its established that during lethal eliminator, if its in range, and if the target isn't running away from it, blows up the whole body. Thats just ONE little detail with whats wrong with this show. It wants to make things dramatic but it badly fails at it. Its cheap gory gimmicks aren't taking it anywhere, SO MANY CHARACTERS have died, yet we hardly cared. They weren't fleshed out and it makes no sense. Trust me, i want to like this series, but so far, its so substandard, its a shame. PP1 was a 10/10 for me, with its subtlety and all, this is just..really a rehash of the same plot but in less episodes. Obviously it'll be a trainwreck. The fact that you are literally trying to justify and explain stuff that happened here and there during this series is evidence for the fact that this series is horrible at story telling. Nobody gets anything. A good script allows everybody to absorb everything thats happening, but having to help out people figure things out is a sign that its a failure. There's really no point in making threads like these or arguing. People will hate as long as its so substandard. It really looks crap compared to Shigatsu. |
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Sam1198777 said: zerriet said: unfortunately, I have to disagree with what you say. Even though there are some slight writing convenicnes or inconsistencies, they still pretty much adhere to the plot as a whole. If there are apparently holes in the story, I don't think they were substancial enough to spoil my enjoyment. Furthermore, I also do not agree with how this is basically a rehash of season 1 because s1 was about finding out the flaws of system whereas s2 was about exposing the flaws to everyone else. Coupled with the side plot of Tougane's obsession with Akane and I sometimes find myself preferring this to Makshima being a walking encyclopedia at times despite me liking the latter villain. I think that the biggest hole might be the assault dominator 2 episodes ago but even then, I don't really see it as a huge issue because Ayonagi would have died anyway. Overall, while I believe this season to be inferior to season 1, the good still outweigh the bad and the enjoyment factor is there. Even though this is MAL, people being so salty and toxic about this season is sometimes uncalled for. It is one thing to call it inferior, but it is another to call it a total flop because it would make it seem that some people are just overblowing the problems out of proportion You don't see the problem. This season is not even your average-okay standard. Its actually way below average. Tell me one thing, how are the dominators blowing up selective parts of people in this episode? Shisui literally blew up an enforcers leg. His body didn't blow up. While its established that during lethal eliminator, if its in range, and if the target isn't running away from it, blows up the whole body. Thats just ONE little detail with whats wrong with this show. It wants to make things dramatic but it badly fails at it. Its cheap gory gimmicks aren't taking it anywhere, SO MANY CHARACTERS have died, yet we hardly cared. They weren't fleshed out and it makes no sense. Trust me, i want to like this series, but so far, its so substandard, its a shame. PP1 was a 10/10 for me, with its subtlety and all, this is just..really a rehash of the same plot but in less episodes. Obviously it'll be a trainwreck. The fact that you are literally trying to justify and explain stuff that happened here and there during this series is evidence for the fact that this series is horrible at story telling. Nobody gets anything. A good script allows everybody to absorb everything thats happening, but having to help out people figure things out is a sign that its a failure. There's really no point in making threads like these or arguing. People will hate as long as its so substandard. It really looks crap compared to Shigatsu. Reading through your post, there are some aspects which you say that are true. But in regards to selective body parts exploding due to the dominator, do bear in mind that this had happened as well in season 1, most notably when only Midou's arm exploded and somewhere with Toyohisa. As for too many characters dying, do bear in mind that when a character dies, they need not be always fleshed out since going by that logic, every show would far longer than its air time. If they were part of the main cast, it would be a huge problem. But like I have stated before previously, they were nothing more than bystanders to help enhance the atmosphere. In my opinion, they have done a sufficient job. With regards to the story, this is tricky because it is debatable in itself. I have stated before that while season 1 was about discovery, season 2 is about exposure. Hence, to me at least, this season does not really feel like a rehash, and neither does kamui seem too bad of a villain, albeit a little too able. Furthermore, while what you say about the need to sound logical to be true, pp2 is more show than tell compared to pp1, hence I am explaining to people who might have missed the subliminal explanations. All in all, you are free to think that this season is inferior to season 1 which I respectably agree with too. What I don't agree with ,however, are people who just freely start saying the show is a total disaster over very small nitpicks or without any reason to begin with. At the very least, judging by your score on PP2, i am glad you are not one of those people. |
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Sam1198777 said: I agree about the gory gimmicks part, but do characters really need to be as developed as a multi-story building before they can die? Do you really expect random enforcer #7 or random citizen#22's deaths to be "oh, so moving?" Not every death is meant to be moving, and neither is every death meant to be important. One problem you mentioned "the fail at being dramatic" hardly negates all the other interesting stuff it has provided. |
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