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Jan 27, 2009 7:23 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Finally, a clever multi-pronged attack from the owner. We have him forcing Mihara to win (meaning Tokuchi will play), and feeding the other team's manager the team's signs (is obvious, if not explicit) and a cash prize for winning. Doesn't feel like Tokuchi will lose, though. He just doesn't do that.

Spelled Blue Mars, pronounced "Bloomers". So that's what they are to be called from now on.
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Feb 2, 2009 5:24 AM
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Very interesting episode.

Glad it is over against the bugaboos for now, nice with some fresh air.
I also liked that this episode was a little bit off the court to, so it is some variation in it.
Definitely on of the best episodes in my opinion:)
Feb 2, 2009 8:06 AM
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New arc ftw!

Nice episode overall. No Tokuchi action though.
Feb 2, 2009 10:00 AM
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Maybe this team will be more interesting then the Bugaboos.
Feb 2, 2009 2:40 PM
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This certainly seems to be an interesting game. Looking forward to the next episodes.
Feb 2, 2009 3:55 PM
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Filler episode, but shows the deep level of research and thought Tokuchi puts into his schemes. In this particular respect, it works even better than Akagi. It's not really just some plot nonsense, there's some actual backbone behind the plots.

Unfortunately the rest of the episode's filler and set up for the next arc, but still worth the small peek behind the Wizard's curtain.
Feb 2, 2009 9:55 PM
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Oh Kuckleballers. Next week will be fun.

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Feb 2, 2009 10:10 PM
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Looks to be interesting, but a very overused way in going about it with the team that's just like the Bugaboos with a pale, blonde pitcher with a "weird" pitch. I'll hold my breath though.
Feb 2, 2009 10:13 PM
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noteDhero said:
Looks to be interesting, but a very overused way in going about it with the team that's just like the Bugaboos with a pale, blonde pitcher with a "weird" pitch. I'll hold my breath though.

Yep, that blonde dude is definitely going to be a strong contender.
I can't wait how Tokuchi would solve their so-called cheating in the game though.

Glad to know we won't be seeing Johnson even though most of his "Oh shit!" reactions were entertaining.
Feb 2, 2009 10:56 PM

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It seems the Lycaeons can't ever get good batting and pitching to occur in the same game for them.
Feb 2, 2009 11:52 PM

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Another "100%" confidence plan that the owner seems to have faith in.
Feb 3, 2009 2:29 AM

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Well, that certainly was a much more satisfying explanation to the "throwing the ball faster" or "beat Johnson psychologically" or "moving the base back".
I CAN'T BELIEVE NO ONE PREDICTED MUSCLE FATIGUE IN EP15 DISCUSSION. It seems so obvious now that we know it, but...
Feb 3, 2009 4:06 AM
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Well, that certainly was a much more satisfying explanation to the "throwing the ball faster" or "beat Johnson psychologically" or "moving the base back".
I CAN'T BELIEVE NO ONE PREDICTED MUSCLE FATIGUE IN EP15 DISCUSSION. It seems so obvious now that we know it, but...


i agree ^^
Feb 3, 2009 1:14 PM

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kagami222 said:
Well, that certainly was a much more satisfying explanation to the "throwing the ball faster" or "beat Johnson psychologically" or "moving the base back".
I CAN'T BELIEVE NO ONE PREDICTED MUSCLE FATIGUE IN EP15 DISCUSSION. It seems so obvious now that we know it, but...

Yeah, i was like....ohh..that makes sense, silly me.

I think the anime tricked us into thinking it will be some bullshit tricky thing like the rest of the shenanigans we've seen.
Feb 4, 2009 12:51 PM

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I like this episode because it shows what Tokuchi does when he is not in a baseball game. At least he did do some research of how to win the game.

Poor Johnsons just got injured by the Blue Mars team.
Feb 4, 2009 8:13 PM

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looks like their bats are a few inches bigger, at least the guys hitting home runs anyway. There's specific sizes limits and rules on what material a bat can be made out of for each league, but umpires normally don't measure to make sure.

Happy to see we didn't have to watch another episode with Johnson...I hate these 3 game episodes.
Feb 5, 2009 12:37 PM
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brilliant set-up episode. I agree with the OP, the sign stealing was pretty obvious from the very beginning of the game. now that's the scores tied, I'm looking forward to what kind of pitcher's "duel" will occur between Tokuchi and that Knuckleballer.

though I'm kind of disappointed that there's no one on the other team with a big mouth and a short fuse. no target of Tokuchi's taunting? no RAGE in this set of games? ;_;
Feb 5, 2009 12:43 PM

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lol @ cheating team being from Kobe

Avarice said:

though I'm kind of disappointed that there's no one on the other team with a big mouth and a short fuse. no target of Tokuchi's taunting? no RAGE in this set of games? ;_;


Rodrigo or whatever will probably be our source of angry outbursts. He doesn't seem too bright, though...
Feb 8, 2009 4:39 AM

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It will be interesting how this battle with the BlueMars plays out. Can't wait for the next ep.
Feb 8, 2009 12:28 PM

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Plate said:
lol @ cheating team being from Kobe

Avarice said:

though I'm kind of disappointed that there's no one on the other team with a big mouth and a short fuse. no target of Tokuchi's taunting? no RAGE in this set of games? ;_;


Rodrigo or whatever will probably be our source of angry outbursts. He doesn't seem too bright, though...

I really hope you are right, it's just too funny when the rage occurs.
Apr 4, 2009 6:42 AM

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Poor Johnsons just got injured by the Blue Mars team.
I actually felt really bad for him too. He was a cool guy, and now he might not be able to run anymore.
Oct 19, 2009 4:00 AM

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What kind of cheating this BlueMars is using to crush Tokuchi..
May 30, 2010 12:42 AM

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Ah I see. Blue Mars=Bloomers.
Sep 22, 2010 8:53 AM

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Wow, I thought Tokuchi would already have used the Johnson is tired thing around the end of game 2. Since the guy was catching, stealing, bunting, and hurting himself at occasions. I guess he let it go since it wasn't needed to win the game (since there was other strategies). And he doesn't really even need the trainer to track the time, since, it doesn't take a quantitative method to know a 100m sprinter will get tired if he had been running excessively for so long.
Mar 1, 2011 10:06 AM

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AlexSadist-sama said:
Ah I see. Blue Mars=Bloomers.

I took a look at the discussion before watching ths episode and then i could only think of bloomers every time i heard Blue Mars,lol.

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Apr 21, 2011 2:16 AM

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Laevantein said:
What kind of cheating this BlueMars is using to crush Tokuchi..


This

Apr 21, 2011 4:09 PM

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I can't wait to see the other team's pitcher, he seems like he will be very hard to deal with.
Nov 12, 2012 1:34 AM

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Oh, now he faces a team of actual cheaters and the idiot manager is left on his own.

The plot thickens.

Time for Toua to make his salary bigger.
Apr 13, 2013 12:35 PM
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Good episode.
That knuckleball is tricky to hit. I will try that pitch.
Cheating ehh. interesting.
The manager is on his own now. Hope he make some better choices.
Johnson is now injured. Wow.
4/5
Jun 1, 2013 7:06 PM

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I wonder if Tokuchi already figured out a way to beat these guys.

Jun 3, 2013 10:33 AM

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The way Tokuchi defeats these guys isn't that interesting. It just seems like everyone but Tokuchi is an idiot.
But I'll keep watching.

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that eoten be eatin the pizza pi

Does anybody know a way that a body could get away?
Mar 21, 2014 5:22 AM

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What do you think their cheat is?

"MAGNETS!!!" (Lol, you know where I'm quoting this from)

I'm thinking it can be a magnet inside both balls and bats. So that they'll pull each other close, lol. Tough I'm not sure if that's possible at that speed.

About the weight... they can somehow make equal weighted bats and balls maybe? With carefully placed magnets and maybe with special magnets? I dunno...

Also the pitch may be inclined in some way helping home side somehow but that's just a lazy ass guess.

I don't even know what can be done to cheat in this game, lol, it's like they're making every "uncheatable" looking thing "cheatable as hell" I'm sure we'll get some valid explanations but I just can't even imagine what would happen if someone tried to cheat that way in any one of team sports, lol...

Oh, and, don't that blonde guy look like Tokuchi? I thought for a sec they were brothers, lol. Still it's not impossible tough, maybe an unknown brother?! Lol.

Anyway looking forward to next episodes. Looks like gonna be fun.
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Apr 8, 2014 9:50 PM

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So that's how he did it, my previous theory's were wrong I didn't even think of exhaustion :/

That's a big bet with manager.

I wonder how they are actually cheating, other than the injury to Johnson earlier.
Nov 6, 2014 9:43 AM

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I wonder how they are going to injure a pitcher, it´s going to be interesting.
Nov 30, 2014 11:01 AM

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the owner definitely has a huge gambling problem to go against Touai the Gambling God

Jan 11, 2015 12:34 AM

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Meh. Not much happened this episode.

Seems like the BlueMars have some tricks up their sleeve.

I wonder who that guy was the owner talking to.

I'm curious as to how the owner will void all of that money from the outs Toua has acquired.

Alright episode though this one was a bit more boring than the others.

I'm excited to see how the Toua counters that knuckleball though.

7/10

Feb 9, 2015 11:25 AM

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The way the owner said he would "break" Tokuchi . . . I wonder if he intended to injure him. Does a Pro's contract become void after sustaining an injury that pulls him out for the season? Or maybe try and force him to play after getting injured? Really can't guess what they are thinking in this episode . . . Kind of seems random at the moment.
Apr 13, 2015 12:54 AM
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That Toua face at the end lol, their lead got destroyed pretty fast.
Apr 26, 2015 1:25 PM

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DissonantSoul said:
I'm curious as to how the owner will void all of that money from the outs Toua has acquired.
Chances are, he won't be able to at all.
May 9, 2015 4:56 AM

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So Toua defeated Johnson by tiring him out, makes sense and then that guy on the other team just thought "oh well, I'll just injure him" lol. Also makes sense.

Very interesting set up episode, wonder how they are cheating.
Jun 4, 2015 7:10 AM

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Next episode will be really interesting, toua vs blue mars.
Oct 31, 2015 1:17 PM

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Wonder if the BlueMars have some sort of communication to let the batters know what balls are coming.
There definitely has to be a reason why they have such a high win %, not just because of the real grass.
Feb 11, 2016 11:29 AM

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The way they explained those things about the ball movement and the muscles stamina is amazing.
Great Episode.
Feb 11, 2016 8:04 PM
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Loved the episode.
We got to know the dirtier way to get rid of Johnson. Blue Mars are the cheaters then, eh? That's gonna be interesting to watch.
The stupid owner thinks he's got a bullet proof plan again. Hope Toua can kick his ass again.
Looking forward to the rest of the game
Mar 24, 2016 4:44 PM

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This episode felt like a documentary lol.
Apr 3, 2016 4:37 PM

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Why didn't the coach use Toua from the start since the owner is letting him make the decisions?
Aug 14, 2016 2:59 AM

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I'm guessing Rodrigo knows what signs the catcher is doing so he knows which pitch to hit. Facing a team full of cheaters should make for an interesting arc.
Jul 23, 2017 3:37 AM

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I really like the change of pace and how this new arc was set up. Tokuchi finally seems to warm up more, and feels more "human". But let's see whether the game itself will be exciting, too!
Nov 14, 2017 4:35 AM

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The premise of this match is really promising,with what kind of team the Blue Mars are and how the owner set up the conditions for this match. Can't wait to see how Toua will handle it.

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ohhh Tokuchi reviewing the video of his next opponents. It's a first!
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