| First of all, let me just make it clear that I am NOT a dub hater. Most of the time I'm happy to watch an anime subbed or dubbed. Hell, I actually prefer the dubs of some shows (*cough*DBZ*cough*) to the original subs. But one thing I've noticed, is that the more dubs I've watched, especially of newer shows, the more repetitive the voice actors have become. Once you've heard, say, Yuri Lowenthal's voice for a while, you start to recognise his voice in every role. That's fine to a degree, but when you start noticing it, you don't hear the character speaking, you hear Yuri speaking. Now I'm not bitching here, because these voice actors are probably nice people, and they're just doing their jobs. If you look in my favourite people you'll see I have some English voice actors there. They are often very good at their job. No, the above problem is more the fault of the company I believe. We may not have nearly as many as Japan, but there are other voice actors out there who could be given roles, rather than the same old ones we've heard a million times. Its actually putting me off watching a lot of newer dubs. At least with old dubs I don't recognise the voices so I can just enjoy them. Then again, I've just realised that Yu Yu Hakusho has Hiei voiced by Yuri Lowenthal -_-. I'm not far enough into the series for that character to have been introduced yet but I'll admit I'm not looking forward to it as much as I was. Mostly because whenever I hear Yuri, I hear Sasuke, and that's not a nice thing. Also...is it just coincidence that he voiced two characters who look awfully similar in some aspects? That was long, but yeah, I'd like to hear what everyone thinks. Do you find it a bit annoying when voice actors are overused in dubs? Do you also think it runs the risk of detracting from the character? EDIT: I said Yuri Lowenthal when it was actually Chuck Huber who voiced Hiei. *-3-* how embarrassing... |
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| My problems with dubs aside, I don't think I'll ever get sick of hearing Johnny Young Bosch voice acting. Especially his role as Lelouch is pure awesome. lupadim said: another dub hater... dubs vs subs inb4 topic locked You're the last person on MAL to consider saying that, considering the amount of spam you've stirred up on the site. Don't attack others, he isn't violating the rules in anyway. You on the other hand... |
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lupadim said: another dub hater... dubs vs subs inb4 topic locked Did you even read the start of what I said? |
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| The amount of people who dub anime in the west is no where near as close as the amount of anime voice actors in Japan. Meaning, there's a lot less people in America who actually get to dub anime 'professionally' if you can call it that and because so, you'll see more occurrence of the same voice actor, especially if you're watching dubs of shows that are from the same company. In short, you have less variety. |
sushi55 said: My problems with dubs aside, I don't think I'll ever get sick of hearing Johnny Young Bosch voice acting. Especially his role as Lelouch is pure awesome. lupadim said: another dub hater... dubs vs subs inb4 topic locked You're the last person on MAL to consider saying that, considering the amount of spam you've stirred up on the site. Don't attack others, he isn't violating the rules in anyway. You on the other hand... Thanks. And I do have to give Johnny credit, even if it comes down to him being a Power Ranger (Was a major fan of that show as a kid). He also is well suited to being Ichigo, even though I don't like Bleach (anymore). |
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| I agree with the OP. This is especially noticeable in FUNimation dubs I've found. It can be distracting and is one of the lesser reasons that I prefer original audio. I also agree with Paul. |
Ghost-Lightning said: I agree with the OP. This is especially noticeable in FUNimation dubs I've found. It can be distracting and is one of the lesser reasons that I prefer original audio. I also agree with Paul. Yeah my issue is primarily with Funimation. They make some really great dubs, and have rescued shows (*points at One Piece*), but they do use the same people a lot. I'm aware that there is a limit to how many actors there are. But, surely they can dub at least one new anime without using any of the usual suspects? Maybe I'm being to hopeful here... |
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| Them Funimation dubs, same handful of people: Laura Bailey, Christian Luci, Caitlin Glass, Greg Ayres. Then again I'll very rarely watch dubs so ┐(￣ー￣)┌. ^I don't think it would be very difficult for them to find new good talent out there. |
| I don't really notice it as much nowadays. Although you could play bingo with the names of people who commonly pop up in Sentai Filmworks shows when a new one gets announced. 90% of their dubs have a cast that sounds something like: Luci Christian David Matranga Monica Rial Greg Ayres Brittney Karbowski Shelley Calene-Black Blake Shepard Emily Neves Illich Guardiola (Who I can always spot because of Cromartie High School) Andrew Love Jessica Boone Hillary Haag Chris Patton |
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| Is it just me or is Cherami Leigh always given the role if its a female (usually pre-pubescent moe girl) protagonist? |
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| Luci Christian David Matranga Monica Rial Greg Ayres Brittney Karbowski Shelley Calene-Black Blake Shepard Emily Neves Illich Guardiola Andrew Love Jessica Boone Hillary Haag Chris Patton Look at this list. They are the best for English Dubs. I would add a few such as Crispin Freeman and JYB. Anyway, they are used a lot, but I'd rather have repetitive than bad voice acting. |
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| One could also say that Kana Hanazawa is overused and you may as well say that Jun Fukuyama is also overused. |
Diran-kun said: Crispin Freeman and Johnny Yong Bosch aren't in any Sentai dubs. Actually, I think we need more roles from them. Especially Crispin FreemanLuci Christian David Matranga Monica Rial Greg Ayres Brittney Karbowski Shelley Calene-Black Blake Shepard Emily Neves Illich Guardiola Andrew Love Jessica Boone Hillary Haag Chris Patton Look at this list. They are the best for English Dubs. I would add a few such as Crispin Freeman and JYB. Anyway, they are used a lot, but I'd rather have repetitive than bad voice acting. Sakana-san said: They're good VAs, so who cares? Same goes for a lot of dub voice actors who are said to be overusedOne could also say that Kana Hanazawa is overused and you may as well say that Jun Fukuyama is also overused. |
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| I guess they work with the system if it is not broken, don't fix it. Unless there is more negative feedback form using the same VA over and over again, I don't think it would be changed. I for one, don't really care,. Don't really watch alot dubs and as long as effect is made on part of the VA to voice the character in question, I got no problem with it. |
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SaberRitsu said: They're good VAs, so who cares? Same goes for a lot of dub voice actors who are said to be overused Indeed, they're overused for their talent, let's assume. At the OP: If you want new voices, watch Aiura, there's some new VAs in the cast. |
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toybox said: Where is MajinSaga? Is he on vacation? To answer the question, yes they are overused due to there being less of them. |
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sushi55 said: My problems with dubs aside, I don't think I'll ever get sick of hearing Johnny Young Bosch voice acting. Especially his role as Lelouch is pure awesome. lupadim said: another dub hater... dubs vs subs inb4 topic locked You're the last person on MAL to consider saying that, considering the amount of spam you've stirred up on the site. Don't attack others, he isn't violating the rules in anyway. You on the other hand... this I love johnny young boschs voice and vic mignognas.And don't be a hypochrite the sub has theie own overused voice actors.I mean look at naruto and bleach.The guy voicing sasuke and uryu are the same guy and he's not even trying to use a different voice |
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| Well even in Japan that happens, I have heard the voice of the snake guy from Naruto so many times in different shows. And it happens in spanish dubs too, I remember one character in the Simpsons with Ranma's voice. But it doesn't botter me since I only watch dubs from anime I watched when I was a kid (DBZ and the like). |
zdude18 said: toybox said: Where is MajinSaga? Is he on vacation? To answer the question, yes they are overused due to there being less of them. Agreed. To be fair though, the overused dub VA's aren't bad (for the most part) just overused, which is a shame seeing how it hinders the quality of dubs when you watch enough of it. |
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ssrex said: It's a pity that anime isn't widely recognized as a valid form of entertainment in the states. Then we wouldn't have this problem.zdude18 said: toybox said: Where is MajinSaga? Is he on vacation? To answer the question, yes they are overused due to there being less of them. Agreed. To be fair though, the overused dub VA's aren't bad (for the most part) just overused, which is a shame seeing how it hinders the quality of dubs when you watch enough of it. |
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| The thing is, for Japanese dubs, you'll find popular VA's tend to voice the same or similar archetypes roles. (May come in more than just 1 archetype.) However, English voice actors aren't exactly so, rather sometimes it feels as if some they're are just given roles out at random. Though that might just be me as I can't say I've seen even 1/4th as much English dub anime as I've seen Japanese. |
| Actually, I noticed overusing Japanese voice actors in original anime, too. O _O Overusing voice actors in anything from Western media to Japanese, bothers a little. I check the voice casts for anime a lot, and I see Yuri Lowenthal everywhere, and it's kind of annoying, even if I don't watch dubbed anime (besides DBZ dub, because the original actors are actually worse and have squeakier voices--but otherwise, I haven't lasted longer than 2 minutes with dubs nowadays). Also, sometimes it feels like dub voice actors gets roles just because they're popular, and not because the role suits his voice. (Though I think it's more to do with the lack of options.) Maybe you guys can relate to this, but for instance, when I see that Kamiya Hiroshi is literally everywhere now (Levi from SNK, a friggin squirrel, Gareki from Karneval, Hibiki from Devil Survivor 2, Penguin from Polar Bear Cafe, etc), that it's like his value is lessened somehow? Like, it's cheapened? I don't love his work any less, but when he's everywhere, you start to associate all the characters he played together, and his roles have less individuality. This probably happens with dub actors too. Though I can't deny that he suits nearly every role he's cast perfectly. He's exactly the voice I imagined for Levi, Izaya, and Gareki. I won't deny that Yuri Lowenthal has a good voice (don't get me wrong, I still can't appreciate his acting). But his voice isn't very distinct. From what I've seen in clip collections of his work, a downside to having so many roles is that the actor starts running out of different voices, and the character voices overlap too much. |
 Hiei isn't voiced by Yuri Lowenthal. He's voiced by Chuck Huber. I think you need better ears OP. |
| I dont really care for Funimation dubs much these days. They use the same voice actors over and over and over! I miss the olden days when there were multiple dubbing companies at work using lots of different voice actors for different shows. Most of these companies have quit because they didnt make enough money from it so we're left with Sentai and Funi (who already shares a bunch of actors) and occasionally Aniplex when they do decide to dub a show. |
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| If it's a voice actor I like, then I don't really care. I could listen to Steve Blum and Crispin Freeman all day long. The same argument can go towards movies as well. Why does no one complain about Robert De Niro being in so many films? Because he's awesome, there's nothing to complain about. |
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zdude18 said: Yeah there are TONS of really talented American voice actors but they're only ever used for the kids shows that airs on CN and Disney. Imagine if some of those crossed over into anime dubbing!ssrex said: It's a pity that anime isn't widely recognized as a valid form of entertainment in the states. Then we wouldn't have this problem.zdude18 said: toybox said: Where is MajinSaga? Is he on vacation? To answer the question, yes they are overused due to there being less of them. Agreed. To be fair though, the overused dub VA's aren't bad (for the most part) just overused, which is a shame seeing how it hinders the quality of dubs when you watch enough of it. |
| At first I used to get kinda bothered by it, but after a while I just got used to it the same way they recycle the same actors in big hollywood blockbusters all the time. Though I really wish they would make more of an effort to recruit new talent still just for the sake of having some variety. Some of the dubs particularly with Gundam get really old because they use almost exactly the same set every time without deviation. |
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| here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. |
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| I think it also lies with the fans who are watching the dubs. I've seen SO MANY review videos about the dub of some anime and they always criticize the newer VA's and say, "Well, (overused dub VA) would've done so much better instead of them! (This new VA) just doesn't feel/sound right, like they aren't trying..." so the company has to rely on the older, overused talent because the fans will just shit on their dub if they get new actors, who obviously don't have as much experience as the others. But I love dubs and the VA's, especially Cherami Leigh. Though I'm starting to recognize her everywhere... which is fine, since I'm a huge fan. I guess it can be the same for the original audio. I've noticed some overuse in Japanese voices, but I feel they do it in a more subtle way, rather than always do some sort of "all-star cast." I just hope Johnny Yong Bosch and/or Yuri Lowenthal aren't the VA for Eren in AoT's dub. |
mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. |
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zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. |
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mattbenz99 said: Source please. If that's true, I'll agree with you. Popularity would be second then. There's no denying either issue though.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. |
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zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: Source please. If that's true, I'll agree with you. Popularity would be second then. There's no denying either issue though.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. the poll was over on |
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mattbenz99 said: I'll just take your word for it, for now. That's pretty sad. If at least everyone would buy their favorite series (I do), it might give a little jump to their profits.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: Source please. If that's true, I'll agree with you. Popularity would be second then. There's no denying either issue though.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. the poll was over on |
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Nabris said: This is FUNimation we're talking about, so they're probably gonna flip a coin between Josh Grelle and Todd Haberkorn.I just hope Johnny Yong Bosch and/or Yuri Lowenthal aren't the VA for Eren in AoT's dub. |
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zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: I'll just take your word for it, for now. That's pretty sad. If at least everyone would buy their favorite series (I do), it might give a little jump to their profits.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: Source please. If that's true, I'll agree with you. Popularity would be second then. There's no denying either issue though.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. the poll was over on i personally think that if you live in north america there are so many legal streams that you have no need to pirate anime at all. just watch it on sites like crunchyroll, funimation's website, hulu(if you are american), netflix(if you have a subscription, heck youtube has a whole bunch of legal anime on it i mean manga entertainment just put redline up for free legal stream on their youtube channel. there are just so many alternatives than piracy. |
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mattbenz99 said: By source, bring the link. How many people participated? And you think Fakku is the place to find the most balanced userbase. There might have been only a dump truck size amount of people.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. |
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IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: By source, bring the link. How many people participated? And you think Fakku is the place to find the most balanced userbase. There might have been only a dump truck size amount of people.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. do you have any evidence showing showing any other results? or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? or how about we have a poll here on the anime section of MAL? |
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mattbenz99 said: I'm calling you out on using a simple poll on a hentai site as proof that 98% of anime watchers pirate and piracy is robbing dump truck loads of money from the companies.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: By source, bring the link. How many people participated? And you think Fakku is the place to find the most balanced userbase. There might have been only a dump truck size amount of people.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. do you have any evidence showing showing any other results? or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Provide a good link or you have no proof. |
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IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: I'm calling you out on using a simple poll on a hentai site as proof that 98% of anime watchers pirate and piracy is robbing dump truck loads of money from the companies.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: By source, bring the link. How many people participated? And you think Fakku is the place to find the most balanced userbase. There might have been only a dump truck size amount of people.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. do you have any evidence showing showing any other results? or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? fine then make a poll here on MAL and lets see what the results will be. |
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mattbenz99 said: There would be like 100 people participating, that's not enough to say that 98% of anime watchers only pirate. The shounens on tv get over 1 million viewers a week and this site only has a million and a half. It's like asking on a porn site how many people watch porn.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: I'm calling you out on using a simple poll on a hentai site as proof that 98% of anime watchers pirate and piracy is robbing dump truck loads of money from the companies.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: By source, bring the link. How many people participated? And you think Fakku is the place to find the most balanced userbase. There might have been only a dump truck size amount of people.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. do you have any evidence showing showing any other results? or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? fine then make a poll here on MAL and lets see what the results will be. You still haven't provided a link. |
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Nabris said: Unlikely, since it's being dubbed by Funimation (in Texas), and those two actors are based in California. And for the same reason, I immediately knew the "Yuri Lowenthal plays Hiei" bit was almost certainly wrong, though DoctorDoom beat me to mentioning it.I just hope Johnny Yong Bosch and/or Yuri Lowenthal aren't the VA for Eren in AoT's dub. The issue of overused dub actors has two causes. 1) Reduction in the number of companies licensing anime and/or dubbing it. In the past, Rightstuf/Nozomi, Media-Blasters, and Central Park Media used a number of New York City dubbing studios. Now CPM's gone, Nozomi doesn't dub anything, and Media-Blasters rarely dubs anything (and they sometimes use the CA studios as well). Bandai and Geneon used to use various studios in California and Canada, such as New Generation Pictures and Bang Zoom! in LA, Ocean's main studio in Vancouver, or Ocean's secondary studio in Calgary. Now that both those companies are shut down, we're not going to hear many dubs from those places. Because the newer entries to the R1 distribution industry don't typically do dubs, most dubs get done by Funimation (Fort Worth, TX) or Sentai (Houston, TX). Thus, we hear a lot from those actors. Prior to 2005, ADV also had their secondary "Monster Island" studio in Austin, but obviously we're not hearing from those actors anymore. And since many Sentai dubs are directed by Steven Foster (who apparently works on the process of "which characters are these actors going to play?", not "which actors will play these characters?"), we hear a lot from his favorite VAs. 2) As the speed, quality, and availability of fansubbed anime increased in the mid 00s, the fandom that was still willing to purchase anime demanded faster and cheaper releases. In the past, series were released on single DVDs on a bimonthly schedule with 3-5 eps per disc at $30 MSRP, often a year or more after the licensing announcement. This model allowed for more time and budget in the dubbing process, since sales from one volume could go towards production costs for the next volume. However, the switch to 12-13-episode sets at $60 MSRP with as little delay as possible between license announcement and release meant a reduction in time and money available. That means less time available to do multiple retakes to train new talent. Contrary to popular belief, studios don't hire any old hobo off the street -- matching lip flaps and dealing with foreign names, etc. on top of all the other demands of voice acting are specialized skills. Thus, the time-pressed studios stick to the names they know in order to have any chance of completing a reasonably acceptable dub on time and within budget. mattbenz99 said: here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. Links NSFW, but they do disprove this: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/01/09/starving-seiyuu-poor-as-church-mice-80-work-part-time/ http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/05/14/kotono-mitsuishi-the-industry-is-dumping-skilled-seiyuu/ |
ZalisAug 8, 2013 4:23 PM
IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: There would be like 100 people participating, that's not enough to say that 98% of anime watchers only pirate. The shounens on tv get over 1 million viewers a week and this site only has a million and a half.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: I'm calling you out on using a simple poll on a hentai site as proof that 98% of anime watchers pirate and piracy is robbing dump truck loads of money from the companies.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: By source, bring the link. How many people participated? And you think Fakku is the place to find the most balanced userbase. There might have been only a dump truck size amount of people.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. do you have any evidence showing showing any other results? or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? fine then make a poll here on MAL and lets see what the results will be. You still haven't provided a link. i cant my grandmother is in the room! you go on a porn site with your grandmother in the room. |
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mattbenz99 said: Then I'm counting you now as don't have any proof. Do it later but I'll remember this convo next time you want to bring something like this up again.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: There would be like 100 people participating, that's not enough to say that 98% of anime watchers only pirate. The shounens on tv get over 1 million viewers a week and this site only has a million and a half.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: I'm calling you out on using a simple poll on a hentai site as proof that 98% of anime watchers pirate and piracy is robbing dump truck loads of money from the companies.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: By source, bring the link. How many people participated? And you think Fakku is the place to find the most balanced userbase. There might have been only a dump truck size amount of people.zdude18 said: mattbenz99 said: The reason they don't make as much money as those in Japan is due to popularity issues, not piracy. Sure piracy causes a dink in their sales, but I don't think that's the main issue.here is what most people dont seem to get. in japan you are a well paid celebrity if you are a voice actor. here if you voice act in anime you will often make less than if you were to work at wal-mart. the problem is that people dont want to work on anime because there is no money to be made so they tend to go towards voice acting in video games where at least you make a decent salary. now keep in mind this isnt the companies fault. it isnt like they want to pay people these terrible wages it is just that they dont make much money because of the "piracy culture" surrounding anime in the west. i mean funimation the biggest of all the western anime companies doesnt even make that much. keep in mind dubbing a show is a way to increase sales and if it looks like they wont make back their money through a dub most companies wont do it. the problem is that most companies just dont have the resources to have a wide range of actors because of lack of funds. i have seen poles on other forums that say 98% of people who watch anime pirate it. that isnt dipping into their sales that is coming in with a dump truck to the bank where these companies put their money and robing it. trust me if 10% of anime fans actually bought their anime we wouldnt have this trouble with repetitive voice actors. do you have any evidence showing showing any other results? or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? fine then make a poll here on MAL and lets see what the results will be. You still haven't provided a link. i cant my grandmother is in the room! you go on a porn site with your grandmother in the room. |
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