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Sep 25, 10:08 AM
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As far as I saw only a few IPs got this treatment, Saint Seiya got Omega and Dragon Ball got Daima. Then how come super popular stuff like Sailor Moon can't get a sequel? Everybody is watching Precure, I am certain people will watch a Sailor Moon sequel and you don't even need the original cast, just have Chibiusa fighting Chaos in Crystal Tokyo or something.
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dont forget lupin 3rd its all original anime sequels and spinoffs now same with pokemon and digimon

anyway my guess is that its not a matter of cannot but if the original author like mangaka allows such original sequels and spinoffs to be made and also how popular the ip franchise is still

plus toei studio for example have taken the ip rights for a lot of anime like dragon ball, digimon, etc but i do not know if they have the ip rights for sailor moon too
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Because original sequels don't have a source material the fans can buy, so they probably yield less profit.
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Because original sequels don't have a source material the fans can buy, so they probably yield less profit.
@Zarutaku to be fair most big anime ip like dragon ball are multimedia franchise now like dragon ball is kept popular because of its anime video games then you got gundam with its gunpla toys selling so well even today so they make anime sequels or spinoffs just to advertise the merchandises like toys
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>everybody's going to watch Sailor Moon even if it's Chibi-Usa fighting Chaos
No, they won't. Precure never positioned itself as a one-and-done story unlike Sailor Moon did.

You can't just force sequels when the creators don't want to make sequels. That kind of mentality ruined a lot of Western media, that you can make a sequel purely because people are nostalgic for (insert well beloved media of the past).

Leave things be.
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Clarissa said:
how come super popular stuff like Sailor Moon can't get a sequel?

I suppose Takeuchi doesn't want one.
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Writing good story costs money and for those who make enough money as it is, there's no need to risk it since that sequel could always flop. IP owners can make more money with less risk by just selling merch for already existing anime.
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@Zarutaku to be fair most big anime ip like dragon ball are multimedia franchise now like dragon ball is kept popular because of its anime video games then you got gundam with its gunpla toys selling so well even today so they make anime sequels or spinoffs just to advertise the merchandises like toys
@deg Establishing such a big franchise is a Herculean task.
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@deg Establishing such a big franchise is a Herculean task.
@Zarutaku ye true its easier said than done but you can see how big franchise like pokemon keeps on going with just merchandise sales alone while the new pokemon anime shows are just big advertisements now
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Imo it's just not good to force sequels if the original creator doesn't want one or want to have any real involvement in one.

A bad sequel can taint the franchise as a whole, there can be a lot of risk involved and if the creator is satisfied with what already exists, we should leave it at that.

Just look at sequels like Boruto and Yashahime... They're not written by their original creators and most people agree they were wholly unnecessary.
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Very often, anime is produced as an advertisement for its corresponding manga or light novel. This explains why so many anime are interrupted after just one or two seasons, often right in the middle of the story.

It is obviously much simpler to adapt than to create; there is a lower risk of the anime being a flop if the adaptation is done expertly, especially if the manga was highly appreciated.

Creating an original script is an expense, both financially and in terms of time, and that script must then be approved by the publishers. This is why it's easier to see an already famous work, whether it was originally an anime or a manga, receive entire seasons of original content.

I believe that today, despite having more possibilities, there is more fear of producing original anime than there was in the past.
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Forget sequels, I still want that Codename Sailor V prequel.

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Because what's the point of making original sequels to already finished anime with nothing new it would be nothing more than a non-canonical glorified filler.
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Cardcaptor sakura got a sequel. Moms were bringing their daughters into the franchise, and Sakura has a lot of unnoficial sequels (code geass, tsubasa, a lot of clamp works that rely on the Sakura baton pass and imagery). So did Ojamajo doremi recently with that movie. And Sugar Sugar Rune (author is Moyoko Anno) did something too.

As you say, Toei and Nakayoshi could push for more Sailor moon. https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/20/Nakayoshi (look their roster). But it looks like either they or Takeuchi have no interest in doing so. So they push for those other franchises. Give time from the Crystal remake, and it might happen.

The other projects you mention had their authors interested in it. Kurumada always gave OK to a lot of manga spin offs and animations. And Toriyama had a lot of mini movies, like the ones that kick started Super, and the games that kick start Dragon ball Heroes, so the Daima project greenlight was also an agreement that he had part. And that is after a lot of time, because GT was not a success (it started original, and later had Toriyama to reenter and get it on going).


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Because it depends on the author, original source material publisher alongside multitude of factors in to deciding if to create anime original sequel based on the series with complete adaptation. If you think that creating long running anime adaptation based on a long running written source material which also fully adapts it is, then imagine how even harder it is to create something entirely original based on the franchise which is based on original source material.
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Cardcaptor sakura got a sequel. Moms were bringing their daughters into the franchise, and Sakura has a lot of unnoficial sequels (code geass, tsubasa, a lot of clamp works that rely on the Sakura baton pass and imagery). So did Ojamajo doremi recently with that movie. And Sugar Sugar Rune (author is Moyoko Anno) did something too.

As you say, Toei and Nakayoshi could push for more Sailor moon. https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/20/Nakayoshi (look their roster). But it looks like either they or Takeuchi have no interest in doing so. So they push for those other franchises. Give time from the Crystal remake, and it might happen.

The other projects you mention had their authors interested in it. Kurumada always gave OK to a lot of manga spin offs and animations. And Toriyama had a lot of mini movies, like the ones that kick started Super, and the games that kick start Dragon ball Heroes, so the Daima project greenlight was also an agreement that he had part. And that is after a lot of time, because GT was not a success (it started original, and later had Toriyama to reenter and get it on going).

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Sakura has a lot of unnoficial sequels (code geass, tsubasa, a lot of clamp works that rely on the Sakura baton pass and imagery).

Code Geass doesn't have anything to do with Cardcaptor Sakura. They don't even look alike.
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Sakura has a lot of unnoficial sequels (code geass, tsubasa, a lot of clamp works that rely on the Sakura baton pass and imagery).

Code Geass doesn't have anything to do with Cardcaptor Sakura. They don't even look alike.
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....... CLAMP is responsible for the character designs of Code Geass... so it kind of have something in common.

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Why is it so hard for western media to just let IPs be one and done?
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Sakura has a lot of unnoficial sequels (code geass, tsubasa, a lot of clamp works that rely on the Sakura baton pass and imagery).

Code Geass doesn't have anything to do with Cardcaptor Sakura. They don't even look alike.
@Lucifrost Yes. But my ex kept going on and on about how Sumeragi was just like Tomoyo, and Suzaku was coded Syaoran. Giving this the most stretch connection I have seen since War on Geminar and Tenchi Muyo.

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>Already complete.
That's precisely why. Finished stories rarely need sequels.
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If the story is finished then it's finished. Dredging up some old IP, especially with a new story that the original author didn't write, just to make a few bucks would just be a soulless cash grab. I think in the case of Dragon Ball, Toriyama was at least involved.
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Maybe because in cases where the story is already very comprehensively and conclusively finished and already over, it feels like unnecessary milking it and trying to extract more beyond reasonable limits from something which already ended beautifully and on a note of finality? Like at a certain point if the story is fully ended and you don't have some fascinating and exciting new idea to actually even come close to matching and rivaling (let alone surpassing) the old story, there is a certain sense from even the staunchest fans of an attitude like "Hey, just leave the characters be and let they and their story and world rest on a high note".

That's kind of how it was with the arrival in 2020 of the sequel series to Inuyasha - Hanyou no Yashahime: Sengoku Otogizoushi and the sequel seasons/series to Higurashi - Gou and Sotsu.

Inuyasha isn't just my favorite anime series of all time. It's my favorite piece of art or media entry period out of thousands of anime, cartoons, and live action series and films combined. Higurashi is also one of my limited number of 10/10s and comfortably nestled within my Top 5. And yet in spite of that - or no, perhaps because of that, both sequels were something I found completely unnecessary.

Of course no artistic creation is strictly speaking "necessary" in the same way as, like, oxygen or water. And no one is or was forcing myself or anyone else to watch those sequels. But you almost feel compelled when you're a massive years-long fan of the original story that is their predecessor, only to be setting yourself up for the almost inevitable disappointment.
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Copying and pasting from a manga is easy. Coming up with one's own story takes a lot more effort, and no business wants to put in the effort.
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Saint Seiya and Dragon Ball ended with the original animes, meaning with the OAVs/1986 series and with the DB/DBZ/GT trilogy. The rest is all useless fluff made for a cheap, quick ca$hgrab and nothing else. Of the ca$hgrab continuations of Dragon Ball, the only noteworthy thing is that one of their animators, Yuya Takahashi, is a very good tokusatsu writer and best fanboy of the best tokusatsu writer ever existed on earth (Toshiki Inoue), and you would be better served by watching his Kamen Rider shows (including the current one, Zeztz) instead of sinking your teeth into Daima or Super. The Pretty Cures (of whom I'm going to start watching a show in a few minutes, thank you so much again Pixiv for you Cure Final p0rn art!) are a bad example of a continuing franchise for the simple fact that the Pretty Cures are simply the Toei tokusatsus with a barebon skin of magical girls applied to them, and the Toei tokusatsus have been going around since the 70's. The continuation and continuous reboots are nothing out of the ordinary for that kind of medium.
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Also, SM was not that thing, it was inspired by the Toei tokus, it had something of the Toei Tokus (everything Naoko Regurgitated from the Showa Sentais - like the original Luna copy-pasted from the one in the Denziman movie - and the Sukeban Deka shows, which are adjacent to the tokus. There's a reason why Yoko Minamino took part in KR Gotchard), but it wasn't that thing, it was a magical girl show and I have no knowledge of magical girl shows continuing at infinitum (and I've seen a lot of them, including the very first one). The Pretty Cures are a 100% tokusatsu in animated form with a skin of something else on it, you can't apply the magical girl show logic to them.
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See? Pretty Cure Delicious Party started, there's already from the very beginning a scene with a Baby Carriage taken from a Kamen Rider, probably Ex-Aid (I don't remember exactly, unfortunately), with a similar thing of an enemy appearing and a baby carriage going down. You will possibly apply to the Pretty Cures a Kamen Rider/Super Sentai logic, and those have been around from the 70's with billions of iterations possible. The only "magical girl" logic in these shows is that magical girl shows attract equally women and men (men for the pu$$y, of course), and in the Pretty Cures the pu$$y abounds like Sailor Moon, Saint Seiya or Dragon Ball can only dream of because of twenty-something years of animated pu$$y being put on the screen (not because of the quality of the ladies - including one-time characters - in all three of those IPs) , but nothing else.
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Regarding Sailor Moon, the remake anime—including the movies—didn't gain much popularity domestically, and sales, including merchandise, were extremely poor, so I don't think they'll make any more. Also, for Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon, the original author, Naoko Takeuchi, holds strong rights, so it's impossible for an anime studio to make new works or sequels without her permission.

While the Pretty Cure series is popular enough to release new entries every year, Sailor Moon's older anime has such high quality that there's no perceived need for new series or sequels. Besides, not everyone who likes anime watches the Pretty Cure series.


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Clarissa said:
I am certain people will watch a Sailor Moon sequel and you don't even need the original cast, just have Chibiusa fighting Chaos in Crystal Tokyo or something.


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Inuyasha got the spinoff sequel Yashahime: Princess Half-Demon, produced by sunrise. Naruto got Boruto as well. Neither were written by the original creators and who knows how much involvement they had beyond the supervisory role. I’m sure there’s something out there that would say.

Hokuto no Ken Got a season 2 simply because the first one was super popular even when the final battle between Raoh and Ken happened and the story was told in completion. The scramble to come up with a new story using existing characters was a bit rough as it was rushed and it shows despite the original creators involvement in writing and illustrating the manga that the show was based off of.

So yes popular shows for their time did get spin off sequels, I don’t have any numbers in front of me but if they didn’t do as well as expected then the production companies that supply the money tighten their grip om the almighty wallets and are less likely to do more.
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Regarding Sailor Moon, the remake anime—including the movies—didn't gain much popularity domestically, and sales, including merchandise, were extremely poor, so I don't think they'll make any more. Also, for Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon, the original author, Naoko Takeuchi, holds strong rights, so it's impossible for an anime studio to make new works or sequels without her permission.

While the Pretty Cure series is popular enough to release new entries every year, Sailor Moon's older anime has such high quality that there's no perceived need for new series or sequels. Besides, not everyone who likes anime watches the Pretty Cure series.

@kihel The Pretty Cure thing has nothing of popularity, it's the model taken from the tokusatsus that lends itself to yearly iterations. They didn't make that thing out of Sailor Moon because it was a magical girl show mixed with something taken from tokusatsus and not a 100% animated tokusatsu like the pretty cures, and magical girls shows don't have this yearly iteration thing. I know because I watch both Toei tokus and magical girls, from the very first incarnations I've watched them (Mahou Tsukai Sally and the Gekko Kamen Movies) and they don't work the same. The SM remake didn't get much popularity...eh, it happens when you put in the main writing chair idiots like the main writer of the first unwatchable Garo series, Yuji Kobayashi. I have no idea how in the hell that guy has managed to carve a career for himself by writing so many Urutoraman series, it makes no sense. Even if what the guy wanted to translate into anime form had been war and peace, it would have been a failure on all fronts.
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Why is it so hard to understand that not everything needs to an " I P ". Especially manga that is seen as artistic work same as literature. Or at least that's how it used to be, it's starting to feel like capitalism is making its way there as well.

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Then how come super popular stuff like Sailor Moon can't get a sequel?

Sailor Moon never got a proper adaption to begin with. The first '92 anime made drastic changes and Takeuchi openly expressed her disdain. The Crystal series was supposed to faithfully adapt the manga with updated animation, but it was cut short at 3 seasons and final 2 seasons were forced to be movies.

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Why is it so hard for western media to just let IPs be one and done?


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Inuyasha got the spinoff sequel Yashahime: Princess Half-Demon, produced by sunrise. Naruto got Boruto as well. Neither were written by the original creators and who knows how much involvement they had beyond the supervisory role. I’m sure there’s something out there that would say.

Hokuto no Ken Got a season 2 simply because the first one was super popular even when the final battle between Raoh and Ken happened and the story was told in completion. The scramble to come up with a new story using existing characters was a bit rough as it was rushed and it shows despite the original creators involvement in writing and illustrating the manga that the show was based off of.

So yes popular shows for their time did get spin off sequels, I don’t have any numbers in front of me but if they didn’t do as well as expected then the production companies that supply the money tighten their grip om the almighty wallets and are less likely to do more.
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Hokuto no Ken Got a season 2 simply because the first one was super popular even when the final battle between Raoh and Ken happened and the story was told in completion. The scramble to come up with a new story using existing characters was a bit rough as it was rushed and it shows despite the original creators involvement in writing and illustrating the manga that the show was based off of.

Um, what? Season 1 didn't fully adapt the manga. Season 2 continued the story but still didn't adapt the whole thing, like most seasonals today.
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authors have a lot more say in Japan. they are the de facto rights-holders, they decide what gets done and what doesn't. GT, Super and Daima wouldn't exist without Toriyama's consent.
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No. That is the Western Way - keep extending it until everyone is sick of it then cancel it without warning. Japan has mostly got it right on this specific aspect of popular-media story telling.

Tell your story as well as you can and then clear off for the next person to have a go.
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I don't know why, but I see that as a good thing. Why make an original sequel to a complete adaptation? Exceptions apply, of course, but if the original was fine without a sequel, so should be the complete adaptation. And it doesn't matter if it comes from the original creator or someone else, sometimes it's time to let it go. Let it die at its peak instead of milking as much as possible and ruining its image. I think a lot of originals already suffer from this, a sequel to them would only make things worse.
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@kihel The Pretty Cure thing has nothing of popularity, it's the model taken from the tokusatsus that lends itself to yearly iterations. They didn't make that thing out of Sailor Moon because it was a magical girl show mixed with something taken from tokusatsus and not a 100% animated tokusatsu like the pretty cures, and magical girls shows don't have this yearly iteration thing. I know because I watch both Toei tokus and magical girls, from the very first incarnations I've watched them (Mahou Tsukai Sally and the Gekko Kamen Movies) and they don't work the same. The SM remake didn't get much popularity...eh, it happens when you put in the main writing chair idiots like the main writer of the first unwatchable Garo series, Yuji Kobayashi. I have no idea how in the hell that guy has managed to carve a career for himself by writing so many Urutoraman series, it makes no sense. Even if what the guy wanted to translate into anime form had been war and peace, it would have been a failure on all fronts.
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Not everyone who watches Precure is looking for “tokusatsu elements.” The main audience is, of course, preschool-aged girls, even though there are also many adult male fans. And if someone mainly wants to see tokusatsu, they usually watch the Kamen Rider or Super Sentai series that air right after Precure.

As for the failure of the Sailor Moon remake, I don’t think the problem was the scriptwriter. Many people dropped out during the very first Crystal series before the anime really got going, mainly because of the character designs and voice actor changes. The direction and music were also considered better in the old series. Since the remake was set to follow the manga faithfully from the start, I don’t think the scriptwriter was to blame. That’s why you don’t see the writer’s name being brought up so often on Twitter or other social media as the cause of the failure. When a show fails specifically because of the writing, names like Natsuko Takahashi always get mentioned online.

Anyway, not many people tend to link this topic with tokusatsu, so your reply was actually quite interesting to read.

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Hokuto no Ken Got a season 2 simply because the first one was super popular even when the final battle between Raoh and Ken happened and the story was told in completion. The scramble to come up with a new story using existing characters was a bit rough as it was rushed and it shows despite the original creators involvement in writing and illustrating the manga that the show was based off of.

Um, what? Season 1 didn't fully adapt the manga. Season 2 continued the story but still didn't adapt the whole thing, like most seasonals today.
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A lot of factors honestly, who's in charge, will the original Creator allow it, but budget issues, etc.
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Not everyone who watches Precure is looking for “tokusatsu elements.” The main audience is, of course, preschool-aged girls, even though there are also many adult male fans. And if someone mainly wants to see tokusatsu, they usually watch the Kamen Rider or Super Sentai series that air right after Precure.

As for the failure of the Sailor Moon remake, I don’t think the problem was the scriptwriter. Many people dropped out during the very first Crystal series before the anime really got going, mainly because of the character designs and voice actor changes. The direction and music were also considered better in the old series. Since the remake was set to follow the manga faithfully from the start, I don’t think the scriptwriter was to blame. That’s why you don’t see the writer’s name being brought up so often on Twitter or other social media as the cause of the failure. When a show fails specifically because of the writing, names like Natsuko Takahashi always get mentioned online.

Anyway, not many people tend to link this topic with tokusatsu, so your reply was actually quite interesting to read.
@kihel reason for watching or not, the fact is, at the very core the pretty cures are tokusatsus masqueraded as magical girls. They even promoted the IP that way, as "Kamen Rider for girls", they never made a secret of the real identity of these shows.
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because they can recognize a waste of time, usually. should've continued super instead of make daima.
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because they can recognize a waste of time, usually. should've continued super instead of make daima.
@ryzxgum aren't you old for a series targeted to sell toys to children of 6-10 years? because Super was made only with that objective in mind, by admission of Bandai themselves. I know, the Precure I'm currently watching officially is target at children too, but there's something as an adult I find of my liking (the women, the fights, the general superheroics). Super was a ca$hgrab for toddlers from the very beginning.
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>everybody's going to watch Sailor Moon even if it's Chibi-Usa fighting Chaos
No, they won't. Precure never positioned itself as a one-and-done story unlike Sailor Moon did.

You can't just force sequels when the creators don't want to make sequels. That kind of mentality ruined a lot of Western media, that you can make a sequel purely because people are nostalgic for (insert well beloved media of the past).

Leave things be.
@TheMechaManiac its not just the sequels, its even the reboots. A lot of Western media are tainted because a reboot made some of the worst adaptations we could ever see in an animation and they made irreversible damage to the reputation the media franchise built up for.

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@TheMechaManiac its not just the sequels, its even the reboots. A lot of Western media are tainted because a reboot made some of the worst adaptations we could ever see in an animation and they made irreversible damage to the reputation the media franchise built up for.

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F in the chat for The Powerpuff Girls, Ben 10, Oldboy, and Teen Titans.

Powerpuff Girls reboot aired over a decade after the original ended. It couldn't "damage" the Powerpuff Girls if kids didn't know about the old show and wouldn't have watched it anyway.

Same for Oldboy; nobody's heard of that.

While you are free to dislike the direction Teen Titans Go took the franchise, it's disingenuous of you to suggest it's not the biggest success in all of Teen Titans.
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@ryzxgum aren't you old for a series targeted to sell toys to children of 6-10 years? because Super was made only with that objective in mind, by admission of Bandai themselves. I know, the Precure I'm currently watching officially is target at children too, but there's something as an adult I find of my liking (the women, the fights, the general superheroics). Super was a ca$hgrab for toddlers from the very beginning.
@ProudElitist ''i like my toddler cashgrab, why do you like your toddler cashgrab?" just a very silly reply altogether when the answer to your question lies within your own post.
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@ProudElitist ''i like my toddler cashgrab, why do you like your toddler cashgrab?" just a very silly reply altogether when the answer to your question lies within your own post.
@ryzxgum With a sole difference: the toddler ca$hgrab I'm watching is an original IP that has been around for twenty years at this point, Super is a continuation beyond its due past time and that's not how animes work. Animes are not tokus like the Kamen Rider or Urutoraman that stopped being produced for a decade yet they're still there and kicking, animes work that when the energies are put all at the very start, if there's a gap of years inbetween, what is going to be produced after that gap is shit. You or other people expecting from Super or Daima anything good were delusional to say the least. The only thing good in those is Yuya Takahashi, and not even in those series but in the Kamen Riders he has written and he is writing, nothing else.
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@ryzxgum With a sole difference: the toddler ca$hgrab I'm watching is an original IP that has been around for twenty years at this point, Super is a continuation beyond its due past time and that's not how animes work. Animes are not tokus like the Kamen Rider or Urutoraman that stopped being produced for a decade yet they're still there and kicking, animes work that when the energies are put all at the very start, if there's a gap of years inbetween, what is going to be produced after that gap is shit. You or other people expecting from Super or Daima anything good were delusional to say the least. The only thing good in those is Yuya Takahashi, and not even in those series but in the Kamen Riders he has written and he is writing, nothing else.
@ProudElitist i couldn't care less. acting like one toddler cashgrab is any better than the other is definitely one of the replies of all time lmao, don't waste my time with that coughing baby vs coughing baby argument.
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@ProudElitist i couldn't care less. acting like one toddler cashgrab is any better than the other is definitely one of the replies of all time lmao, don't waste my time with that coughing baby vs coughing baby argument.
@ryzxgum The Pretty Cures are better because they're ongoing, they haven't stopped. They never stopped. Super was made after twenty years since GT, it was doomed to failure to begin with. Like Daima was. Everything that had to be told was told in the original anime trilogy, there was no space for anything else. The conclusive ending of GT didn't permit it.
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@ryzxgum The Pretty Cures are better because they're ongoing, they haven't stopped. They never stopped. Super was made after twenty years since GT, it was doomed to failure to begin with. Like Daima was. Everything that had to be told was told in the original anime trilogy, there was no space for anything else. The conclusive ending of GT didn't permit it.
@ProudElitist i don't see how it stopping or being ongoing has anything to with anything. and that's based on the premise that people actually watched and cared about gt. i couldn't even sit through 4 episodes before dropping it so long time ago to the point i don't even remember anything from it anymore. failure in what sense? a single episode of super is more successful than all of gt combined. i can't imagine anyone thinking some filler is even mildly successful.
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