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| So because you don't get spoonfed, that means there's no resolution? Kamui made holos out of the dead children (aged), so we know exactly how many there were and they also know their faces. For the rest of the followers, it's quite hard to find people that are under Kamui yet are clear. i didn't say the plot was bad, i said what happened was useless How is it useless? We have more information on how Sibyl works, Sibyl in the future will be able to judge groups and itself and we have more character development for Akane. because it's either useless or a problem, as you said mine fits better More like, yours is a false analogy.lol Nobody cares if you don't understand how the system works in Psychopath.but they were part of the system right before they were gassed, so it did matter at he time And how does that help your argument? were they CA? was their personal CC high? why do i have to explain simple arguments like it's uni tier philosophy? Because you have to prove your stance, that's why you have to explain it. Also, yes, if Sibyl is picking up only CA brains, then they were CA. Their CC was high if they were deleted, otherwise Sibyl's CC wouldn't have been 300 and then it wouldn't have went to 0 when Sibyl gassed some of them. |
ImmahnoobFeb 8, 2015 12:58 PM
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Yeah, good job on debunking your own stance and repeating my words. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: Szadek23 said: So it's not an opinion?No,I didn't. PP2 contradicts how the system behaved in s1,like when Akane made a deal with the system,or when Kasei changed the dominator's fire mode manually. Kasai explained in season 1 that the system is not literally perfect,but is prefect in a pratically sense,because it break its own rules and adapt to new siutations. The ss in season 2 didn't behave that way.It could have stopped kamui's plans at any time by doing just that,but didn't for no reason. That's not an opinion,that's a fact. |
PP2 contradicts how the system behaved in s1,like when Akane made a deal with the system,or when Kasei changed the dominator's fire mode manually. This is a wall of contradictions. Kasai explained in season 1 that the system is not literally perfect,but is prefect in a pratically sense,because it break its own rules and adapt to new siutations. The ss in season 2 didn't behave that way.It could have stopped kamui's plans at any time by doing just that,but didn't for no reason. That's not an opinion,that's a fact. the mass judgement is useless, try to keep up with the conversation Why is it useless?how Why do I have to explain the obvious? Being able to judge groups is not an "ability" that is not part of judging itself. you do remember my point, right? And I told you, that makes no sense and does not prove anything. We've seen brains being gassed and disintegrating. Do they have to stop being CA? No. Are they still CA? Not necessarily, they no longer exist. we saw brains getting gassed, we don't know if those brains had stopped being CA you're implying the total CC is based on the CCs of the single elements whereas it was instead implied the total CC served to bypass the single elements having a low CC You make no sense. Also, "implied" <- Good job. We're getting somewhere.basically: you have no idea wha the fuck we're talking about, great. i guess we agree then, s2 introduced dangerous elements and left them unresolved. But they're not unresolved. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: This is a wall of contradictions. PP2?Yeah,I agree. |
qberr said: Too bad that's just a theory made up by you.now you're just asking things i've already explained to you mass judgement is useless because (as you said) it's not ready to get use on masses yet, and it's not going to get used on Sibyl because Sibyl is a bitch (if you want a better explanation rewatch s1, with your bains on possibly) mass judgement is an additional feature that is not necessary for the basic judging Too bad a tripod is not part of a gun, it's an addition. it is a feature that isn't going to get used, therefore it might as well not exist the rifle is the Sibyl system the parts of the rifle that make it shoot are the base CC reading algorithm the tripod is whatever they did so they could read Kirito/Sibyl/masses there you go, gonna use paint if you still can't understand it as was said a couple times, Sibyl system's CC reading gets more precise (or whatever they mant with "closer to perfection") the more CA brains get put into it I already told you why that's wrong. It's quite easy too. Sibyl does not want to have a clouded PP. And I think you're writing acronyms at random at certain points.if you remove brains, he increase in precision gets removed as well so destroying brains reduces the precision and worsens the reading (increasing the number of CAs) the only way gassing those brains in ep11 didn't make Sibyl's CC readings worse is if those brains had stopped being CA it's not like i make no sense, ou're just having trouble due to your misunderstandings of the mass CC thing This still makes no sense exactly because you're taking this out of your ass, not out of the anime."Their CC was high if they were deleted, otherwise Sibyl's CC wouldn't have been 300" is based on the concept that "only a high CC (not CA) can increase the CC of Sibyl as a whole" whereas it was implied that the mass CC's whole point was judging people who would have a low CC alone but would give whatever community they're in a high CC and they're unresolved, unless you can remind me where they said "oh we tracked down every single politician that was replaced by one of Kamui's pals" or "oh we upgraded Sibyl so the Kamui drugs don't turn peple into CAs" or "oh w killed every single one of Kamui's illegal aliens withou a doubt" in the show Actually, the burden of proof is on you to prove that it was unresolved. Also, weren't you all for "implied" stuff? But you're right, I forgot you want to be spoonfed every detail while arguing about "implied" information that was not only not implied, but made up by you. Szadek23 said: Your comment is.Immahnoob said: This is a wall of contradictions. PP2?Yeah,I agree. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: Your comment is. No. |
Szadek23 said: Yep, because you forgot that Sibyl wanted to blow him up (with tons of innocents) which was the idea of the Togane, considering Sibyl let them fix the situation as it was their fault. Then you claim that Sibyl is perfect in the sense that it would break it's own rules and adapt to new situations.Immahnoob said: Your comment is. No. Yet you deem an agreement with Akane and a manual change in the Dominator OOC. When that's simply breaking rules they set up themselves. Oh, and you people seem to have forgotten but Sibyl is not only made out of brains, it's also the supercomputer before the brains were added. mass judgement algorithm is an addiction That's part of judging actually. which is irrelevant to what i said, lowering the amount of brains still makes the reading shittier Which is irrelevant to the plot, as I said, it's nobody's business you don't like the plot. hat's not what "makes no sense" means and, uh, rewatch the episode, slowly There's no need, I know perfectly fine what happened, unlike you that can't talk past "it's implied so it is the way I think it is.". you're saying i should prove that something doesn't exist That's contradictory.wow "burden of proof" really became a term anyone uses nowadays the point is it wasn't implied, it wasn't even adressed Actually, I can easily say "As an organization made exactly for that, after finding out the identities of Kamui's lackeys, they went after them offscreen.", them being an organization made for that implies it. it's simple reasoning over Sibyl's estabilished character Constantly breaking it's own rules, remember? Sibyl being made out of a supercomputer and a ton of brains, remember? The omnipotence paradox explanation, remember? etc?Sibyl pointing a dominator to its own head for no reason would be ooc |
ImmahnoobFeb 8, 2015 4:47 PM
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| What can I learn from someone that is making up hypotheses that are against what the show tells us...? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: Yet you deem an agreement with Akane and a manual change in the Dominator OOC. No,I didn't.Those were an examples from s1 of how the system should behave. There are many ways it could have stopped kamui,but it waited this long for no real reason at all. |
for no real reason at all. "In my opinion" |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: for no real reason at all. "In my opinion"Still no. |
| Can you prove that though? Because as I said, Sibyl did try to bomb Kamui. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| I really liked this season. The only problem I see with it is that it was too short :( I like the way Sybil system was elaborated even further, and in spite of that remained interesting and something I'd like to learn more about. And this episode as an ending was really well done. Not mind-blowing, but satisfying and thoroughly enjoyable. Can't wait to see the movieee!! Wanna see more of Akane and Sybil <(^_^)> |
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Zadion said: Yeah... I've really no clue what the mass hate on this season is about. It's not as mature or philosophical, but it definitely wasn't terrible. Honestly it was almost as thrilling as the first season for me. I think people are just upset because they feel like the first season is some masterpiece and this one is just "very good" at best. Nothing ruins things more than expectations, right? This was a great finale, too; probably more entertaining than the first season's, TBH. Don't see why people think it's just "filler" or whatever either, because the events of this episode were a very important change to the Sybil system. Contrast this with the first season where absolutely nothing was resolved and Shougo ultimately accomplished an absolute sum of zero -- at least changes were made this time. At least Kamui accomplished something. Oh and yeah, I actually really liked Kamui by the end, though he's definitely not half as awesome as Shougo was. I guess the significantly worse characters is probably the biggest problem about this season. It's pretty obvious it's because it's no longer written by fan boy favorite and object of worship Urobuchi which not only makes it no longer a masterpiece but abject and utter shit with no redeeming features whatsoever to it's framework. Remember it can only ever be one extreme or the other with today's fans who really don't care about anything in particular other than hype and their dramas. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: It's pretty obvious it's because it's no longer written by fan boy favorite and object of worship Urobuchi which not only makes it no longer a masterpiece but abject and utter shit with no redeeming features whatsoever to it's framework. No, the terrrible story,the terrible characters,terrible direction and the pretionous dialogue about concepts that habe nothing to do with anything are responsible for that. |
| Finally finished. It wasn't anywhere near as good as the first season in many ways. The way Kamui died was pretty disappointing. Especially compared to that Tougane guy. I still enjoyed it, though. Just have to not think into it too much. |
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| I don't understand how Sybil could be judged as being over 300. Isn't it made up of entirely asymptomatic people? Do they lose their ability to manage their psycho passes after having their brains removed? And asymptomatic people aren't 0 (at least not always), so how could the psycho pass end up at 0? I'm not sure if I missed something or I'm overthinking it... Also, it was way too wrapped up. Even the very minor incident of tension between Ginoza and Sugo is resolved with a pat on the shoulder. >.< Ugh... I haven't decided on a rating... The show was so condensed that I'll need at least a week to process it all! |
| Decent season, they had a lot to say and show but had only 11 ep instead of 22 for that. And that brings pretty much all the flaws the show meet (shortcuts, small unlogical events, some characters dev' rushed...). But I enjoyed it anyway, their is still a solid ground (shared with lot of dystopian novels but still), a real reflexion even if it didn't get enough screetime to be enjoyed, Akane is still one of the few good female MC in that style of story (I mean, we'd need more of that kind). tl;dr good job considering the hardcore timing given, hoping for the potential of this story to be well exposed in the movie. Ps : wtf is wrong with guys like TheBritishBear, who watched 33 episodes (11 hours, srsly) of this anime constantly saying it's shit and laughable, their is even 3 posts of him in just the first page, if an anime didn't match my taste like that I'd drop it before wasting 33 hours on it and posting all over its forum how I didn't like it. Really. |
| Season was pretty good, the ending was kinda ... anticlimactic though. Shame Tougane just turned out to be a guy who's obsessed with his mothers affection. Kamui dying by Tougane again was a shame. Overall I really liked the season though, not as much as S1 but that's to be expected. 7/10 |
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| I finished the season back when the last episode aired, but it took me all this time to rate it because of how much of a disappointment it was in comparison to the first. While the conflict itself managed to keep my attention, the characters, even returning ones that were previously interesting, were all just dull and often irrational. Kamui was somewhat intriguing, though nowhere near as much as Makishima. The loss of he, Kougami and even Kagari, really hurt this show. 6/10 |
gettogaaraMay 17, 2015 4:35 PM
| Nowhere close to the same level as S1 was. Kamui was quite interesting and I did like the idea behind his character, but I don't feel like he got enough screentime to develop, if anything he is inferior to Makishima in every way. I miss Makishima, Kogami and Kagari, those 3 definitely had a charm to them that contributed to making the 1st season amazing. Also the new inspector, Mika was really annoying and I hated her during this entire season. I was hoping she would be just as likeable as Akane, but sadly that never happened. 6/10, I hope there will be a 3rd season with Kogami getting some love. |
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| Finished the series. I expect much duller plot than the first season, but fortunately I find this series overall as good as the first, but less exciting conflict and characters. Main antagonist is a pretentious revolutionist, but he is just a dumb person thirsty for revenge, for the reason of him being outcast. Akane is still the same, keeping her actions legal, living her philosophy, and value people's lives. Secret bad guy is envious, and insecure, for him being the highest Crime Coefficient, he should be proud to be the highest record. At the end, irrational conflict has ended, the main target is still there, and the ending was so wtf I see her green blood splat and I saw her again talking to Akane. Very anticlimactic ending, very promising series, wasted opportunity. Still 7/10 because I liked the philosophy they included once : The Omnipotence Paradox |
JomsJun 27, 2015 3:31 AM
| Akane so badass in this second season. Loved her character. |
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| i can undestand it, my favourite character don´t appear in this season, but i completly sure that the season is better than the last, how is it posible? 9/10 |
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| This show has way too many loose ends, an overly convoluted and utterly confusing plot with poorly developed characters. 7/10 |
Supanarb said: Just a quick question, did Kamui die? It showed the spray of blood but at the last scene right before the credits roll, we see a guy who looks a lot like him covering his right eye in the prison/isolation place... Uhh what? I see a lot of people asking this and It really doesn't make much sense to me. That character that appeared in prison was clearly Mizue Shisui. |
Windfall said: Supanarb said: Just a quick question, did Kamui die? It showed the spray of blood but at the last scene right before the credits roll, we see a guy who looks a lot like him covering his right eye in the prison/isolation place... Uhh what? I see a lot of people asking this and It really doesn't make much sense to me. That character that appeared in prison was clearly Mizue Shisui. ^^^Agreed. I thought that this was Shisui being sent into some sort of facility for treatment after being brainwashed by Kamui. |
| ⋆-_- ♠ |
| I agree with a lot that's been said already, and I just wanted to add that I felt the ending was sooooo underwhelming. Sibyl gets her way because she kills the brains causing her crime coefficient to go up...Kamui finally is able to "see" his color because Sibyl finally makes it possible to read multiple Psycho Passes... So why is this dangerous? Why did Sibyl not want this to happen? Is it because it will someday judge society and see that all the individuals collectively share a crime coefficient over 300 and thus Sibyl will go on a murderous rampage/fail to work properly??? |
| ⋆-_- ♠ |
| That final confrontation was actually decent. I somewhat liked it. As for this season as a whole, there were times when it made me cringe, and there were episodes that would get me excited. There were also a couple of interesting ideas, but unfortunately, they were overshadowed by the amateur writing and gore fanservice. To mention the characters, well...they were a boring bunch, I would say. Ginoza got put aside, Yayoi had no expansion in her character, Hinakawa was there to do stuff, Mika's there to piss people off, and I could go on. Even the promising Togane ended up being boring to watch. Not much to comment on the Animation & Sound departments. Art felt lazy at the first couple episodes but it got consistent soon after. One thing I'd like to say about the Sound is that almost every episode would end with a cliffhanger track, and what a cheap tactic that was. So yeah, there's a messy plot, an even larger set of flat characters, and other annoying issues. Psycho-Pass 2 sucked balls. The question is, am I going to rate this by comparing it to Season 1, or by its own merits? If it's the latter, I can't think of a score any higher than 4/10 though. |
PriestSlayerAug 21, 2015 1:40 PM
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| what happen in this series..?? previous season so fucking good and then suddenly turned into garbage gore with garbage plot.. LOL 1/10 |
ponz said: I don't understand how Sybil could be judged as being over 300. Isn't it made up of entirely asymptomatic people? Do they lose their ability to manage their psycho passes after having their brains removed? And asymptomatic people aren't 0 (at least not always), so how could the psycho pass end up at 0? I'm not sure if I missed something or I'm overthinking it... Also, it was way too wrapped up. Even the very minor incident of tension between Ginoza and Sugo is resolved with a pat on the shoulder. >.< Ugh... I haven't decided on a rating... The show was so condensed that I'll need at least a week to process it all! If you heard the ending, Chief Kasei says that individually they can be clear but when judged as a group they can be not clear. |
| Disappointing, but not as bad as I thought it would be. It relied too heavily on bloodshed and had too many plot holes to be good. Also in comparison to S1 the characters (apart from Akane) were really bland and lacked any introduction and development. I'll give it a 5/10 for now, most likely will fall down to 4 |
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| Well that was fucking retarded 2/10 At least S1 was entertaining |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Everyone saying that the second season was disgusting and I'm here thinking it was even better than the first season. > Better pace > Great cast (Akane is fucking badass now, Gino is great, Tougane was THE character who made Psycho-Pass 2 - at least, in my opinion - and Saiga Jouji was interesting too) > Great OST, like the first season. I liked the OP/ED (best ED from the series imo) > Better animation (11 episodes rather than 22 so it's normal) and still the great atmosphere that I liked from Psycho-Pass I don't agree with people saying "Kamui = Makishima bis", they are totally different characters, particularly when you learn who Kamui really is, "his" true nature. They share perhaps similarities in their modus operandi, but they are clearly different : Makishima was using people for his goal while Kamui was helping people, making them clear, and just wanted to be judged and recognized by Sibyl. Don't get me wrong, the first season was great too and had clearly more potential, but there were many moments that slowed the pace from the story (Spooky Boogie case, flashbacks from secondary characters, Makishima endless speeches with his numerous book quotes...) So yeah, I can understand people who prefer the first season but I don't understand people saying it was utter shit and a pain to watch when it was actually pretty well-made and enjoyable to watch (which was a big surprise in my case because there weren't Kou and Tot-san, my 2 fav characters from the 1st season) |
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