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In different ways, depending on the topic and audience
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| Do you think the level of discussion around Animanga has changed in any way over time? For the worse or for the better? On the one hand, we have clearly accumulated significantly more knowledge and experience as the community has grown and matured. Especially thanks to the development of meta knowledge and other "tropes" concepts. On the other hand, every year there are more and more people, especially after 2020. So you could say that in parallel with the gain of experience there is also some blurring of fandom due to people who are practically unfamiliar with manga and anime in general. |
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| No, i think it remained the same overall. |
| The rapid influx of new fans, some of whom are less familiar with the history and depth of animanga, sometimes lead to a dilution of discussions. This result in more surface-level conversations. As the community grows, so do gatekeeping, where long-time fans dismiss the opinions of newer fans. This can create a divide within the community... This is my take from the other thread where it said that older Japanese anime fans are getting disregarded by new fans. We also have Overemphasis on Popularity on social media, there’s this tendency to focus on what’s trending rather than exploring old classic anime works. This overshadow more niche or classic series that deserve attention. the animanga community has certainly evolved but it’s a mixed bag. The key is to find a balance where both new and old fans can coexist and contribute to meaningful discussions instead of starting arguments.. We need to bridge the gap between the fans. |
| Worse because mainstream moralism more often ruins cultured discussions and more people are afraid of getting canceled. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
| discussion quality of AD mal has surely declined in the past few years. i remember until like 2 years ago i used to have really good discussions with others and read many posts here. i used to login dozens of time in a day but these days i check mal hardly once or twice other than when i come to add an entry. discussion wise it has been bland. though i'll admit the amount of games on AD have increased (best character etc.) which are fun but nothing much where you could discuss something. doesn't have to be something deep. i miss shit posting too. used to write literally essays but now cant find many good threads to even shit post. |
 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
| Where is the "Everything got worse, not only discussions, but anime, entertainment in general, the internet, the economic situation, the climate, and existence as a whole" option? |
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| It has gotten considerably worse. And it is only getting worse and worse. |
| It should be obvious if it has gotten worse or better. |
| Got worse, because now there are way more moral crusaders and people who have only watched mainstream and safe shows on how anime could be "better". Nevermind there's always people end up bringing politics into a fucking anime discussion thread now because someone didn't agree with them or enjoys the anime they personally don't enjoy. |
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
| I atleast remember there not being as many unreasonable people here few years back. |
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| I’m not sure what anime discussions were like back in 2020 and prior, but from what I’ve seen in the last 3 years or so, the quality of discussions hasn’t really changed much overall. People seem to come and go, and I think that the far majority of topics regarding anime in general have already been talked about at least a few times in the past. Repetitive anime topics and discussions are very common, and originality is somewhat lacking. |
RobertBobert said: Do you think the level of discussion around Animanga has changed in any way over time? For the worse or for the better? On the one hand, we have clearly accumulated significantly more knowledge and experience as the community has grown and matured. Especially thanks to the development of meta knowledge and other "tropes" concepts. On the other hand, every year there are more and more people, especially after 2020. So you could say that in parallel with the gain of experience there is also some blurring of fandom due to people who are practically unfamiliar with manga and anime in general I don't think how much experience one has effects the quality of discussions, after all we all had to start out as newbies What i do think effects the quality of conversations nowadays, and i don't mean only in anime, is how people have gotten in the habit to self-censor themselves, it's been drilled into people these last 5-10 years how everything needs to be "politically correct" and allthough anime is still one of the least affected comunities, considering it's vast choice of unapologeticly non-PC content, to say it's been completely uneffected would be a lie Thankfully there's still a strong enough "i don't give a shit" mentality in the anime comunity to balance things out and still spawn some interesting and entertaining discussions |
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| Discussions of anything on the internet have always been cancerous. |
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| I feel like the way we discuss it and all has changed for sure! We don't use just forums anymore like back in the 2000s! Reddit, Facebook X/Twitter, etc... As for discussions? I feel as if we just have more places now. I do think it has remained about the same overall too, really |
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| In some ways it's gotten better as we have less of that "dub vs sub" debate nonsense, but in other ways it has gotten much worse due to general factors of the wider internet that leak into all media subcultures. In general media criticism and discussion has been having major issues over the past 8 years with bad faith arguments, toxicity, and hatred becoming more and more common due to culture war nonsense allowing people to say God awful shit without being effectively challenged. Ever since bad faith critics stole the slang term "woke" and misappropriated it to sling hatred towards minority groups and sociopolitical themes being present in media, it has been rather difficult to sustain a conversation about any form of media without some people resorting to these hateful arguments thinly masked through buzzwords meant to outrage other people. Outrage bait has effectively become an easily exploitable strategy in discussion used by hateful people and has effectively drowned out the ability to have meaningful and civilized discussion on media in general as it has become a very hostile environment. This may just be due to how much I as a person have changed over the past 7 years, but I definitely feel like I have seen anime discussion overall become more exclusionary. I've noticed a lot more gatekeepy attitudes being more common after 2020 when a lot of new people decided to try watching Japanese shows during the COVID lockdown and older fans being bitter that the thing they like is being enjoyed by more people. Gatekeepy insults such as "tourist" have become much more common since 2020 and have been used to effectively discredit newer fans, women, queer people, and anyone with mildly progressive views by calling them a "fake fan" and to upkeep some status quo instead of allowing more diverse range of discussion from people who are different or younger. It feels like a lot of anime fans just want an echo chamber where they can't be challenged at all and get really pissy when challenged and will resort to insults rather than allowing any sort of meaningful debate or discussion. I have especially seen this firsthand ever since I started transitioning back in late 2019 and have been insulted for my views and for my identity. The community really needs to chill out a bit |
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LSSJ_Gaming said: I definitely feel like I have seen anime discussion overall become more exclusionary. I've noticed a lot more gatekeepy attitudes being more common after 2020 when a lot of new people decided to try watching Japanese shows during the COVID lockdown and older fans being bitter that the thing they like is being enjoyed by more people. Gatekeepy insults such as "tourist" have become much more common since 2020 and have been used to effectively discredit newer fans, women, queer people, and anyone with mildly progressive views by calling them a "fake fan" and to upkeep some status quo instead of allowing more diverse range of discussion from people who are different or younger. It feels like a lot of anime fans just want an echo chamber where they can't be challenged at all and get really pissy when challenged and will resort to insults rather than allowing any sort of meaningful debate or discussion. I have especially seen this firsthand ever since I started transitioning back in late 2019 and have been insulted for my views and for my identity. The community really needs to chill out a bit @LSSJ_Gaming This is good, I'm tired of having my hobbies diluted by tourists and outright ideological evangelists. |
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@LSSJ_Gaming I've been close to the whole controversy surrounding G-Witch last year. The only bad-faith people I actively saw were, in fact, shippers who were pushing for their ship and calling everybody else "homophobic". Sorry, but not supporting your own headcanon isn't homophobia, and no, shipping in fact doesn't have anything to do with the whole LGBT+ rights controversy that's going on.
Also, a lot of pro-left people get upset at female fanservice but say no such thing when men are depicted as attractive. That's pure hypocrisy. Let fanservice be fanservice, everybody has the right to have some as long as it's legal.
So, it's not like only one side is the bad faith actor here. In short - be chill and people will be chill with you no matter what you identify as.
Also, a lot of pro-left people get upset at female fanservice but say no such thing when men are depicted as attractive. That's pure hypocrisy. Let fanservice be fanservice, everybody has the right to have some as long as it's legal.
So, it's not like only one side is the bad faith actor here. In short - be chill and people will be chill with you no matter what you identify as.
| @TheMechaManiac Let's not forget that Suletta is outspokenly homophobic. G-Witch belongs to the homophobe community. |
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| Every discussion has gotten worse. Cinema, games, politics... And anime. |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| entropy strikes again even for anime discussions |
| Discussions on the internet overall have taken a sharp decline since 2016, when everything got all political. Both sides are a problem. From 2016-2018, it seemed that the chuds were everywhere. Then from 2019-2021, it was the puritan leftists. Now, they're both everywhere. Anime needs to go back to appealing to the Japanese and start taking risks again, like Onimai did. As soon as Onimai started to air, both the leftist puritans and the right-wing chuds cried about it. The puritans because of the fanservice, and the chuds because it's a gender bender. |
Reply to LSSJ_Gaming
In some ways it's gotten better as we have less of that "dub vs sub" debate nonsense, but in other ways it has gotten much worse due to general factors of the wider internet that leak into all media subcultures. In general media criticism and discussion has been having major issues over the past 8 years with bad faith arguments, toxicity, and hatred becoming more and more common due to culture war nonsense allowing people to say God awful shit without being effectively challenged. Ever since bad faith critics stole the slang term "woke" and misappropriated it to sling hatred towards minority groups and sociopolitical themes being present in media, it has been rather difficult to sustain a conversation about any form of media without some people resorting to these hateful arguments thinly masked through buzzwords meant to outrage other people. Outrage bait has effectively become an easily exploitable strategy in discussion used by hateful people and has effectively drowned out the ability to have meaningful and civilized discussion on media in general as it has become a very hostile environment.
This may just be due to how much I as a person have changed over the past 7 years, but I definitely feel like I have seen anime discussion overall become more exclusionary. I've noticed a lot more gatekeepy attitudes being more common after 2020 when a lot of new people decided to try watching Japanese shows during the COVID lockdown and older fans being bitter that the thing they like is being enjoyed by more people. Gatekeepy insults such as "tourist" have become much more common since 2020 and have been used to effectively discredit newer fans, women, queer people, and anyone with mildly progressive views by calling them a "fake fan" and to upkeep some status quo instead of allowing more diverse range of discussion from people who are different or younger. It feels like a lot of anime fans just want an echo chamber where they can't be challenged at all and get really pissy when challenged and will resort to insults rather than allowing any sort of meaningful debate or discussion. I have especially seen this firsthand ever since I started transitioning back in late 2019 and have been insulted for my views and for my identity. The community really needs to chill out a bit
This may just be due to how much I as a person have changed over the past 7 years, but I definitely feel like I have seen anime discussion overall become more exclusionary. I've noticed a lot more gatekeepy attitudes being more common after 2020 when a lot of new people decided to try watching Japanese shows during the COVID lockdown and older fans being bitter that the thing they like is being enjoyed by more people. Gatekeepy insults such as "tourist" have become much more common since 2020 and have been used to effectively discredit newer fans, women, queer people, and anyone with mildly progressive views by calling them a "fake fan" and to upkeep some status quo instead of allowing more diverse range of discussion from people who are different or younger. It feels like a lot of anime fans just want an echo chamber where they can't be challenged at all and get really pissy when challenged and will resort to insults rather than allowing any sort of meaningful debate or discussion. I have especially seen this firsthand ever since I started transitioning back in late 2019 and have been insulted for my views and for my identity. The community really needs to chill out a bit
| @LSSJ_Gaming LSSJ_Gaming said: It feels like a lot of anime fans just want an echo chamber where they can't be challenged at all and get really pissy when challenged and will resort to insults rather than allowing any sort of meaningful debate or discussion Although there are of course those few dicks who want to completely gatekeep anime from anyone with a diverging opinion to their's, the same problem can be found in the new part of the fandom too, having it's own few new dicks who also can't take any diverging opinion from their own In reality, i think most anime fans old and new just want to enjoy anime and don't mind sharing/hearing different points of view, even when things get a lil heated, but unfortunately it's the loud and obnoxious minority of each group that gets the most noticed |
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| This is the internet. Every conversation has changed for the worst. |
| Got worse: This mostly applies to the English-speaking Anime fandom since they got worse over the time. Originally, I joined the English-speaking fandom since they talk more about non-mainstream Anime unlike the Latino Anime fandom who they only talk about the same 3-5 Anime in 2017 (now the Latino Anime community is better). But over the time, some in the English-speaking became excessively moralistic -which I will detail later- to the point that I have to restrict myself in some places - a clear example is a Discord server where I used to be very active but there are too many rules to follow and while I understand why they were made, it limits too much the discussion of Anime in that place. As a firm believer that people should be able to engange in their fictional interests and fantasies without any shame, I believe in absolute free of speech as long you are not hurting anyone. Everything is allowed in fiction, I'm a pro-shipper. So if you are an ecchi or hentai it you shoulnd't be judged by people for being fan of it. If you like an Anime or a character considered disgusting, you shoulnd't be judged for it. No one deserves to be judged by their tastes in fiction. An Anime fan is someone who values free of speech. Judging and harassing others for fictional stuff they like -besides of being stupid for doing so since its fiction- is being against freedom of speech itself so invalidates your Anime fan status. Ironically, such people are the only ones unable to differentiate fiction from reality so if, for example, you claim the other person is a pedophile if they are a lolicon, shotacon or attracted to teenager characters, or they are misogynist if they want femenine, then it's most likely you're a misogynist or a pedophile instead of the person you are acussing, there have already been many cases of this since the pedophile is known for having common taste in fiction and uses the pedophile accusation against others as a defense mechanism and to look morally superior in front of others avoiding attention. In addition to the already known cases, I unfortunately met one a few years ago, he was a PPTA fan and was annoyed when other people say NSFW things to MHA underage characters, he was outed later as a pedo due private chats with a minor doing stuff I can't say here. So basically, if you judge and harass others for fictiona stuff they like and say they are going to do the same thing irl, you are already a red flag instead of the people being accused. Gateekeping is only allowed when other people are making others uncomfortable AND being against the values of being an Anime fan. You can't be a fan of something which it's against your toxic ideology. I used to act passively like this but once I started to understand why I love Anime so much, watching more Anime and understanding the culture of absolute freedom of speech in fiction, I have become a true Anime fan or as I prefer calling myself, a Weeb. Specifically talking about certain series: -I absolute despise when some people mention morality in fiction and complain about it to the point of accusing the fans and the author of being in favor of it in real life and at the time they have a obvious a double standard and they don't apply the same logic when a character kills another. Like for example a MT hater being a Monogatari fan, AoT fan or Overlord fan despite in Monogatari, Araragi do similar stuff like Rudeus, in AoT you have child soldiers and in Overlord, Ains kills many innocent people. You expect to at very least not being fans of such shows if they hate MT for the same thing or even why they hate MT is nothing compared to the stuff AoT and Overlord does. While I don't care much about this stupid contradiction as long as they don't accuse fans of the show and the author of supporting that or doing that in real life, if they start harassing others, I won't consider them even Anime fans in the first place due to the points I make above. |
NurguburuSep 13, 4:11 PM
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Reply to thewiru
Things it improved:
Things that went downhill:
- The image an uniformed person has of anime is now closer to what anime actually is. The reason for that is that previous uninformed views mostly came from dubbed TV anime, long-running battle shounen and shitty memes, while current ones come mainly from clips and memes from seasonal stuff.
- Same goes for "anime aesthetic" as a whole (Thank you, E-girls) and what hentai tags are actually popular (As well as people knowing that people READ IT, not WATCH IT).
- Some bad discussions we had years ago, we don't have anymore.
- "Anime-hating dudebro" is now a species in extinction, good.
- Dubs and long-running shounen are not relevant anymore.
- People are now more aware of seasonals.
- More won over toonamishit
Things that went downhill:
- For some reason, culture war chuds/grifters now think anime is some sort of traditionalist haven, it isn't.
- Low IQ people that are unable to differentiate fiction from reality now bitch about lolicon more than ever.
- The great anime analysis and video-essays channels of old are not more. Now you only find small ones, and such type of content is now more found about video-games.
- Puriteens.
- PURITEENS.
| @thewiru What do you mean by tonamishit? As far as I remember, Toonami is the name of an old block of anime from American cable channels. |
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@thewiru What do you mean by tonamishit? As far as I remember, Toonami is the name of an old block of anime from American cable channels.
| @RobertBobert It has to do with the "Moe vs Anti-Moe" wars of old. They're mostly over by the time I entered the community, but there were still traces of it left. Basically, with "Toonamishit" I mostly refer to the type of anime, usually late-90's that had a more "westernized" look and vibe (Think Cowboy Bebop or the original Trigun). It doesn't have necessarily something to do with Toonami, but rather a type of anime taste that was popular many years ago that avoided anything remotely cute like the plague and had a thing for "manime". |
Reply to GinInYourJuice
I’m not sure what anime discussions were like back in 2020 and prior, but from what I’ve seen in the last 3 years or so, the quality of discussions hasn’t really changed much overall. People seem to come and go, and I think that the far majority of topics regarding anime in general have already been talked about at least a few times in the past. Repetitive anime topics and discussions are very common, and originality is somewhat lacking.
| @GinInYourJuice I've noticed this happening a lot in discussion spaces for media where the same topics tend to get regurgitated consistently, especially in series specific groups when the franchise they are a part of doesn't have a new piece of content in a long while. I've seen some communities get around this in different ways such as the subreddit for the Batman Arkham games shifting focus to making jokes about the character and asking absurd questions, or the Marvel vs Capcom fandom keeping the series alive through community events, fanart, and mods before the rerelease on modern consoles came out. Oftentimes though things can easily get stale and boring in fandoms and media discussion when there isn't a consistent amount of new news, popular new releases, or tangentially related topics popping up at any given time. |
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@RobertBobert
It has to do with the "Moe vs Anti-Moe" wars of old. They're mostly over by the time I entered the community, but there were still traces of it left.
Basically, with "Toonamishit" I mostly refer to the type of anime, usually late-90's that had a more "westernized" look and vibe (Think Cowboy Bebop or the original Trigun).
It doesn't have necessarily something to do with Toonami, but rather a type of anime taste that was popular many years ago that avoided anything remotely cute like the plague and had a thing for "manime".
It has to do with the "Moe vs Anti-Moe" wars of old. They're mostly over by the time I entered the community, but there were still traces of it left.
Basically, with "Toonamishit" I mostly refer to the type of anime, usually late-90's that had a more "westernized" look and vibe (Think Cowboy Bebop or the original Trigun).
It doesn't have necessarily something to do with Toonami, but rather a type of anime taste that was popular many years ago that avoided anything remotely cute like the plague and had a thing for "manime".
| @thewiru Are you talking about those “prehistoric times” when anime culture was indistinguishable from imageboard culture, and CGDCT and KyoAni’s moe wave were considered the main “problem” of the industry? |
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@thewiru Are you talking about those “prehistoric times” when anime culture was indistinguishable from imageboard culture, and CGDCT and KyoAni’s moe wave were considered the main “problem” of the industry?
| @RobertBobert not gonna lie, long for those days. Those "discussions" were a veritable mensa meeting compared to 90% of the crap I see here anymore...and that's excluding Dragvetards daily AI spam |
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@RobertBobert not gonna lie, long for those days. Those "discussions" were a veritable mensa meeting compared to 90% of the crap I see here anymore...and that's excluding Dragvetards daily AI spam
| @billybub Now I find it hard to believe that there was a time when K-ON! was blamed for all the problems with anime, and Lucky Star blew people's minds with its revolutionary nature just because it was a show purely about cute girls and moe. |
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| @Spunkert I honestly agree. I don't tend to join or involve myself in fandom stuff anymore at all online. -shrug- @LSSJ_Gaming True! Waaay less of the dub vs sub debate online thank the stars. |
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@GinInYourJuice
I've noticed this happening a lot in discussion spaces for media where the same topics tend to get regurgitated consistently, especially in series specific groups when the franchise they are a part of doesn't have a new piece of content in a long while. I've seen some communities get around this in different ways such as the subreddit for the Batman Arkham games shifting focus to making jokes about the character and asking absurd questions, or the Marvel vs Capcom fandom keeping the series alive through community events, fanart, and mods before the rerelease on modern consoles came out. Oftentimes though things can easily get stale and boring in fandoms and media discussion when there isn't a consistent amount of new news, popular new releases, or tangentially related topics popping up at any given time.
I've noticed this happening a lot in discussion spaces for media where the same topics tend to get regurgitated consistently, especially in series specific groups when the franchise they are a part of doesn't have a new piece of content in a long while. I've seen some communities get around this in different ways such as the subreddit for the Batman Arkham games shifting focus to making jokes about the character and asking absurd questions, or the Marvel vs Capcom fandom keeping the series alive through community events, fanart, and mods before the rerelease on modern consoles came out. Oftentimes though things can easily get stale and boring in fandoms and media discussion when there isn't a consistent amount of new news, popular new releases, or tangentially related topics popping up at any given time.
| @LSSJ_Gaming Admittedly, I'm not too familiar with video game subreddits in general, but I would love to check some of them out in the future just to see what they're like. 👌 But as for lack of newness in content, yeah, I imagine that the lack of new news and popular new releases would indeed be one of the biggest reasons why topics and discussions for series end up getting stale over time. |
Reply to thewiru
Things it improved:
Things that went downhill:
- The image an uniformed person has of anime is now closer to what anime actually is. The reason for that is that previous uninformed views mostly came from dubbed TV anime, long-running battle shounen and shitty memes, while current ones come mainly from clips and memes from seasonal stuff.
- Same goes for "anime aesthetic" as a whole (Thank you, E-girls) and what hentai tags are actually popular (As well as people knowing that people READ IT, not WATCH IT).
- Some bad discussions we had years ago, we don't have anymore.
- "Anime-hating dudebro" is now a species in extinction, good.
- Dubs and long-running shounen are not relevant anymore.
- People are now more aware of seasonals.
- More won over toonamishit
Things that went downhill:
- For some reason, culture war chuds/grifters now think anime is some sort of traditionalist haven, it isn't.
- Low IQ people that are unable to differentiate fiction from reality now bitch about lolicon more than ever.
- The great anime analysis and video-essays channels of old are not more. Now you only find small ones, and such type of content is now more found about video-games.
- Puriteens.
- PURITEENS.
thewiru said: For some reason, culture war chuds/grifters now think anime is some sort of traditionalist haven, it isn't. Not only do they think this about anime, but they also think this for the entirety of the country of Japan. Sure, Japan is a bit more conservative than most Western countries, but a lot of the things that chuds like to pretend doesn't exist there still does. They tend to build up this idealized image of what they think the culture and country is like to use as ammunition against people and media they don't like while overlooking any elements that would immediately cause the integrity of their statement to crumble. I remember debating with someone who was trying to claim trans and nonbinary people didn't exist in Japan and having to bring up actual Japanese words for these concepts and Japanese public figures who fell under these identities to prove them wrong. While I am nowhere near as knowledgeable on Japanese culture as a native person or a few friends from my college who are studying abroad over there, it's just cringe inducing to see people paint an image of the entirety of the culture only to affirm their biases instead of actually wanting to do research or learn new things about it that may sometimes challenge their pre-concieved notions. |
LSSJ_GamingSep 13, 5:47 PM
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Reply to TheMechaManiac
@LSSJ_Gaming I've been close to the whole controversy surrounding G-Witch last year. The only bad-faith people I actively saw were, in fact, shippers who were pushing for their ship and calling everybody else "homophobic". Sorry, but not supporting your own headcanon isn't homophobia, and no, shipping in fact doesn't have anything to do with the whole LGBT+ rights controversy that's going on.
Also, a lot of pro-left people get upset at female fanservice but say no such thing when men are depicted as attractive. That's pure hypocrisy. Let fanservice be fanservice, everybody has the right to have some as long as it's legal.
So, it's not like only one side is the bad faith actor here. In short - be chill and people will be chill with you no matter what you identify as.
Also, a lot of pro-left people get upset at female fanservice but say no such thing when men are depicted as attractive. That's pure hypocrisy. Let fanservice be fanservice, everybody has the right to have some as long as it's legal.
So, it's not like only one side is the bad faith actor here. In short - be chill and people will be chill with you no matter what you identify as.
| @TheMechaManiac its not a headcanon if there's literally official artwork of them getting married bruh. Thats just erasuer |
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@Rye_the_Guy Let me tell you about this little show called Ranma 1/2 about a man who switches genders...
| @Frumptastic have you actually read Ranma 1/2? You know he switches genders against his will...right? |
| A lot of community that participate in discussions have gotten worse and worse to the point that I cannot tell if someone is baiting or being 100% serious with certain topics. Hell, two of the current "popular" threads right now fit this category with weid statements about age gaps and the creation of the term "outcest" There is so much we could discuss on this site about the media we enjoy here, like themes, authorial intent, the effects of writings in certain ways, etc, but no, instead we get weirdo threads and incest defenders |
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