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CookingPriest said: tomi02 said: This was fucking dreadfull i ussualy dont give anything below a 5 unless for those echi ova shows but this was just so bad.I mean grey people??????The most stupid protaganist EVER AND his sidekick is stupid as fuck.This show has a fucking horror tag WTFFFFF?????This is a horror show why do we have traps and teachers with bunny ears??. 4/10 its not a 3 because im kinda interested in knowing who the real killer is tbh. Its not a horror show, it is a modern take on almost hundred year old detective novels by Edogawa Ranpo. This is as much of a horror as Sherlock Holmes is. Doesnt matter if its not supossed to be horror its still awfull.But im saying its horror because it has the horror tag not only on mal. |
| noitaminA really knows what series to pick. As many people does, really like the op and ed, especially the characters looks really interesting, and the arts bro~. |
| I really thought that the main one is a girl... damn traps... I mean come on the voice is a girl right???? It's a trap!!! I mean look at that poster picture on MAL! That guy clearly shows off his butt! A trap.... Trap I say! I like how the characters are in shades of grey until we are introduced to them. It feels like reading a novel where we don't know what the characters look like on the MC's surroundings until they are introduced. Is this a yaoi anime? Because that friend of the main guy clearly blushed. Pretty interesting on how this anime is going. I'll keep watching for awhile. The trap is a problem, but I'll get over it. A murder who killed a murderer. Let's see how this plays. |
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| eh pretty meh |
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| Really liked the mood and atmosphere, definitely keeping up with this. I guess my only complaint is the character designs, but I'll get used to it eventually. |
bolito566 said: That was a very bad introduction episode. Nothing made sense at all. Kobayashi's reactions to his surroundings were so god damn unrealistic. You just can't wake up in the middle of a classroom staring your dead teacher and have absolutely no reaction to the scene whatsoever. Trying to become a detective because 'it should be fun' is an excuse for poor character writing. Every time I see comments with regard to the characters being "unrealistic" or "boring", I think to myself, are you just inserting yourself into the same situation and criticizing the character for acting differently from how you would react? There are billions of people in the world and we shouldn't be arbiters of what is considered "normal". Also, what's people's issue with the character design? SO WHAT? How in the world does that affect the show at all? Looking at comments on anime, I am really intrigued to find out just what people look for in an anime and what their standards are. |
| Looks very interesting & intriguing. I think the one that killed the teacher is the eye glass boy. EDIT: Actually, I don't think the eye glass boy did it because he is listed main character in MAL. Maybe the new female teacher who did because she has bruises in her hands kseon12 said: I have strong association with Kekai Sensen. Similar style, even some characters are too similar. What ? I just don't see any similarity between the two kseon12 said: The weak point against Kekai Sensen only one - trap boy with clearly psychological problems as the main protagonist ) More like a strong point against kekai sensen |
thepathJul 7, 2015 2:34 AM
Actar said: Every time I see comments with regard to the characters being "unrealistic" or "boring", I think to myself, are you just inserting yourself into the same situation and criticizing the character for acting differently from how you would react? There are billions of people in the world and we shouldn't be arbiters of what is considered "normal". That happens so much, and not just on MAL with anime. Well said. |
| Main character who doesn't even blink while holding a bloody weapon and looking at a human body. Not to mention that he finds being accused for a murdered a fun game. Pretty twisted, huh? Well...I like it. I wouldn't even be suprised if he really is a murdered but doesn't remember that. I mean, there is definitely something wrong with him. |
| seems not that eerie enough. It's more like...slow paced case solving. not intriguing enough, too. will try another ep. |
Actar said: bolito566 said: That was a very bad introduction episode. Nothing made sense at all. Kobayashi's reactions to his surroundings were so god damn unrealistic. You just can't wake up in the middle of a classroom staring your dead teacher and have absolutely no reaction to the scene whatsoever. Trying to become a detective because 'it should be fun' is an excuse for poor character writing. Every time I see comments with regard to the characters being "unrealistic" or "boring", I think to myself, are you just inserting yourself into the same situation and criticizing the character for acting differently from how you would react? There are billions of people in the world and we shouldn't be arbiters of what is considered "normal". Also, what's people's issue with the character design? SO WHAT? How in the world does that affect the show at all? Looking at comments on anime, I am really intrigued to find out just what people look for in an anime and what their standards are. Oh god, this is exactly my problem with this thread and overall forums - "the characters reactions are unrealistic because they don't behave like normal humans". It genuinely puzzles me. Do people miss the point by that much or do they just want self inserts. |
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| Wow, I feel really neutral towards this episode. |
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| Gate's protagonist confirmed for filthy casual mobile gaming pleb. Laplace's detective confirmed for Master Race. |
Actar said: bolito566 said: That was a very bad introduction episode. Nothing made sense at all. Kobayashi's reactions to his surroundings were so god damn unrealistic. You just can't wake up in the middle of a classroom staring your dead teacher and have absolutely no reaction to the scene whatsoever. Trying to become a detective because 'it should be fun' is an excuse for poor character writing. Every time I see comments with regard to the characters being "unrealistic" or "boring", I think to myself, are you just inserting yourself into the same situation and criticizing the character for acting differently from how you would react? There are billions of people in the world and we shouldn't be arbiters of what is considered "normal". Also, what's people's issue with the character design? SO WHAT? How in the world does that affect the show at all? Looking at comments on anime, I am really intrigued to find out just what people look for in an anime and what their standards are. There's a clear difference between a character being different/not normal and a character being unreal to the point he/she doesn't seem believable. Kobayashi is not a believable character because instead of having a clear motivation to become a detective (as strange as it may be), he doesn't have one. When your main character doesn't have a clear motivation to his goal (and instead the writers decide to jump this part to get to the action right away, deciding he wants to become a detective because it's 'fun' like it happened) you just have a bad character and overall a bad introduction episode. |
| "I don't like cellphones." "But you have a computer." "You can't play simcity without it" Lol XD "They're were they're supposed to be" That's exactly how i explain my organized mess. Love the soundtrack! tomi02 said: This was fucking dreadfull i ussualy dont give anything below a 5 unless for those echi ova shows but this was just so bad.I mean grey people??? They are grey because the main character doesn't notice thing around him, unless they get interesting/important enough. Which is why characters get noticeable when he interacts more with them. |
| Are they sure Kobayashi a "Boy" ? This is identity crisis for goodness sake I rewatched the episode again look at the body structure of Kobayashi well its a body of a girl and compared to the guy friend student council and way too far |
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| Um, wow. So much hate on this series. I wonder why- oh yeah, no boobs. Whatever. I went into this series not really knowing what to expect at all, but came out of the first ep feeling pretty impressed. definitely some hannibal vibes from the whole body mutilation motif. only semi-interesting characters, but heck the MC is a cute shota so why not. the grey character shadows are kinda weird, but I could get past it. The OP & ED are amazing though :> Looking forward to seeing more of this!! |
LOADJul 8, 2015 8:28 AM
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| Not sold on the characters. Yet. Yoshio seems a little crazy himself. Art was pretty weird and eerie, I'm cool with that. |
VernadromiaJul 8, 2015 1:41 AM
bolito566 said: There's a clear difference between a character being different/not normal and a character being unreal to the point he/she doesn't seem believable. Kobayashi is not a believable character because instead of having a clear motivation to become a detective (as strange as it may be), he doesn't have one. When your main character doesn't have a clear motivation to his goal (and instead the writers decide to jump this part to get to the action right away, deciding he wants to become a detective because it's 'fun' like it happened) you just have a bad character and overall a bad introduction episode. That's where I challenge the fundamental premise of your argument and ask why you consider a character with no motivation a "bad" character. Where does your judgement criteria lie and where do you draw the line between believable and unbelievable? Do people require complicated motivations in order to drive their character in order to be good? Why? Also, assuming that we are basing our standards of believability on reality, how do you know that such people don't exist? As Alfred said in the Dark Knight, "Some men just like to see the world burn." and that, in my opinion, is as legitimate a motivation as a childhood trauma or some contrived backstory - especially when it doesn't detract from the main attracting factor of the show, which appears to be the intellectual battles/crime solving. Just because you, personally, cannot reconcile the fact that someone can be driven by their lust for fun, doesn't mean that the character is a bad character nor unbelievable. |
xiety10 said: Are they sure Kobayashi a "Boy" ? This is identity crisis for goodness sake I rewatched the episode again look at the body structure of Kobayashi well its a body of a girl and compared to the guy friend student council and way too far Well either way, I'm just gonna denying the real fact of (her) given identity |
r0ykun said: That was definitely something. I'm curious to see where this series will go. plus Opening was good |
bolito566 said: Actar said: Every time I see comments with regard to the characters being "unrealistic" or "boring", I think to myself, are you just inserting yourself into the same situation and criticizing the character for acting differently from how you would react? There are billions of people in the world and we shouldn't be arbiters of what is considered "normal". Also, what's people's issue with the character design? SO WHAT? How in the world does that affect the show at all? Looking at comments on anime, I am really intrigued to find out just what people look for in an anime and what their standards are. There's a clear difference between a character being different/not normal and a character being unreal to the point he/she doesn't seem believable. Kobayashi is not a believable character because instead of having a clear motivation to become a detective (as strange as it may be), he doesn't have one. When your main character doesn't have a clear motivation to his goal (and instead the writers decide to jump this part to get to the action right away, deciding he wants to become a detective because it's 'fun' like it happened) you just have a bad character and overall a bad introduction episode. Every person has different range of emotions and inhibitions and different drives. If one could judge one's mental patterns by some universal standard,such thing as shrinks do not exist. Hell if we were to base the world according to you, such thing as sociopaths WOULD NOT exist. Everyone has different range of emotions and different ways they react to things. In case of Kobayashi, majority of "normal" daily life is literally unimportant and no different from scenery - how is that different from a sociopath's lack of empathy? It is not. I personally think the monologue in this describes Kobayashi perfectly. |
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| A character with no motivation can't be interesting unless he/she develops. For us to develop some kind of bond with characters in written form we need to be able to understand their emotions and motivations, right? A character needs to act in such a way that it defines what he/she wants in a clear form. Even if everyone has different emotions and points of view, the personality of a character has to be made clear, because in my mind Kobayashi is just a normal student that appears to look like a girl for one reason or another and is now being charged of a crime he hasn't comitted. We had no flashbacks on why Kobayashi thinks his life is too normal, and why he thinks he should change it. He is also NOT a sociopath and if he is then the presentation of the episode should've made that clear aswell. I don't ask for a complicated motivation for him to desire to become a detective, but slapping a "meh, 'cause it's fun" motivation in my face without even explaining what had him to decide this didn't fit at all. When I'm unable to understand why a character does stuff, how can I be able to root for his success in the next episodes? If he DOES think differently, why hasn't the episode made that clear in the first place? Now I doubt this will be explained in the future, since there will probably be action right away in the next episode, but if it is then I will be a very happy man. |
| Really enjoyed this so far. Akechi reminds me a lot of Makishima Shougo, even has the same voice actor, so I'm loving him already. |
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Xopiad said: Maybe the "Laplace" in the title is somehow related to Laplace Transforms in calculus. More likely it refers to his analytical theory of probabilities. |
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Takuan_Soho said: bolito566 said: I don't ask for a complicated motivation for him to desire to become a detective, but slapping a "meh, 'cause it's fun" motivation in my face without even explaining what had him to decide this didn't fit at all. Not fun, lets say that he has a fascination for the strange and perverse the same way a snake can fascinate a bird or the way people will pause to look at a car wreck. It's not that Kobayashi wants to be a detective, that is not his end. For him, becoming a detective is a means, it will be the fastest way to meet the most bizarre people possible. That this is his goal was shown by his ignoring the teacher, Kobayashi could care less about her wearing cat ears or having a psuedo bondage dress, those things hold no fascination for him, knowing that she tried to commit suicide, now that he finds interesting. If it takes a thief to catch a thief, it takes a sociopath to catch a sociopath - that is where I think this show is going. The only question I have is whether they are going to end with something campy (which could still be fun, I am SOOO looking forward to a certain villain the credits list) or they are going to aim for something completely messed up. I am hoping for the latter, and Kobayashi is a good start towards that. Even though I do think you're giving too much credit to a character that at this point has none, I hope what you're saying is true. If only that theory of yours had been explained in the episode instead of being speculated here, that would've been a totally different introduction. |
| I tried to watch this, but i dropped about 8-12 minutes into the episode. So what I'm about to say is based on the few minutes I watched. First off, these type of 'mysteries' are definitely beyond a middle schooler. It's really silly for a (mentally-troubled?)14 year-old to think he can solve a 1st-degree murder case, with basically nothing to go on, and no experience in the investigative field whatsoever maybe besides an episode of 'COPS'. Then there's the shadowed out background characters. This was something Durarara did, a show I didn't even like, but there was a multitude of cast members to make up for it. Here, it just adds to the blandness this show suffers from. And the MC's personality certainly does not help. I agree with what bolito566 said about Koboyashi. His reactions are heavily unrealistic. Also, the 17-year old detective thing is a no-go. That kid should be sitting in a high school class, not investigating a murder case as a professional. Maybe its because the original story was written over 50 years ago, this show failed to meet my expectations. With the really awkward young cast and a really mature mystery, it just ruins whatever seriousness this anime was trying to present character-wise and potentially story-wise. Overall I'd give this episode a 2 on the MAL scale. It's a poor introduction to a mystery show that will most likely have convoluted twists to follow. |
markeusJul 9, 2015 4:33 PM
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| The way non-main characters are animated as flat colors is pretty damn distracting and annoying. |
lanfire said: The way non-main characters are animated as flat colors is pretty damn distracting and annoying. Thats not why they are like that. |
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| Man I didn't know what to expect from this. Only tagged as mystery. Weird name. Studio that is going for crazy shit(really like their work though). But I have to say this is totally the direction I was hoping for :D The only unsatisfying point is that this boy is way too calm. Being calm is fine but I'd love to see at least ANY reaction when |
| Dat trap tho. I'm not really feeling the MC. I guess they wanted him to be edgy by making him look feminine and unfeeling especially after being convicted of a crime. He can try but he's no Seta Soujirou. Still holding onto this Anime, I love horror and thrillers. I hope the story improves. I wish there was more gore and horror. |
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| Did I see cuts on the new teacher's wrists? Pretty interesting setup, with shadow-people and all. Too bad it doesn't have a more serious/mature feel to it. I think that would have fit this kind of murder-mystery/thriller better. |
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| I liked how they used the "shadows" thing for the characters, because it actually makes sense, if I remember well, Rampo in his stories kept the characters who haven't interacted with the MCs yet titles as "shadows" so I found a pretty interesting and fitting choice. |
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| Loving that ED song. Damit! Why is Kobayashi a trap... :( I love me a good mystery anime. I'm looking forward to watching this. |
| Let's see how Noitamina fucks up again by their stupid obsession with less episodes than regular ones. Anyway, that "boy", yeah give him a girl's curve (hurr durr boy with female pelvis) and insist he's really a boy, that's definitely gonna work. Not that it's gonna matter anyway though. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
| Nice OP by amazarashi. Sasuga. |
| Nice start, man why couldn't they just make him a her so I don't get confused D; oh well... Hopefully this is a nice mystery anime |
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| Decently interesting start - the premise with murder mysteries (or mysteries in general) seems like it'll be really good, but a couple of things annoying me already ... Kobayashi obviously being a trap is one, and his attitude too >_< Ugh idk man ... well, Akechi is a high school detective with special permission for this stuff. Hashiba is kind of annoying too, with being super protective of Kobayashi and everything. Tbh, I don't really like any of the characters yet -_-" The animation is nice and clean but I kinda feel like something ... darker would suit the atmosphere more? Ah well, OP and ED were both good instrumentally but I just couldn't quite like the vocals much :S The case itself is interesting at least. Murdered homeroom teacher, displayed in such a weird position, then apparently he was ALSO a murderer who made his victims into ... chairs? O_O Hopefully the plot will be good enough to pull through on this ... |
| Terrible show. Artstyle is not fitting. Pretentious presentation and premise. MC looks like a girl only to make him cute. Tonal direction is unrealistic and ruins immersion. Unnecessary gore and violence for shock factor to lure in impressionable teenagers. Absolute laughable. Even worse than Psycho Pass on the level of cringe edgyness. 2/5 |
| I am falling, I am fading, I am drowning, help me to breathe. |
| I liked it. The music choice is great especially when they threw in the English insert song at the end to create a climax. The pacing was a bit too slow in the middle but got so good near the end with that build up. This will be interesting! Onto to the next episodeee Love the ED. I'm relistening to it right now. I love how they repeat the chorus in acapella at the end~ I'm bothered that they made the MC a trap. And the grey shadow people? Come on, that's not stylish - it's lazy. LOAD said: Um, wow. So much hate on this series. I wonder why- oh yeah, no boobs. Whatever. I went into this series not really knowing what to expect at all, but came out of the first ep feeling pretty impressed. definitely some hannibal vibes from the whole body mutilation motif. only semi-interesting characters, but heck the MC is a cute shota so why not. the grey character shadows are kinda weird, but I could get past it. The OP & ED are amazing though :> Looking forward to seeing more of this!! Same! |
mayukachan said: I'm bothered that they made the MC a trap. And the grey shadow people? Come on, that's not stylish - it's lazy. Same thoughts pretty much. Don't see any reason for the trap there. |
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| Those shadows is annoying as hell...also I was sure the MC was a girl, it was a surprise haha I was expecting that the teacher was not saint. |
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| I am not really sure if the butterfly symbolizes something but oh well... I did like this episode (and I guess there is nothing wrong with boys looking like girls...?). I do really like the ending theme. |
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