 I really hope that I don't have to explain what a loli is to you guys. As for my own opinion, it's split. I love children characters. They are fun and cute, but I also like the "adult stuck in a child's body" trope. If done right, those characters are interesting and funny. I like both types, and they offer different things to the table. I can't choose a side. However, I'm curious which side you guys will pick, and I hope I don't have to call the Cyber Police because of crimes against humanity. |
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| Well, since there's no consensus on the actual definition of a loli, that's kind of a loaded statement. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| I love both though I may prefer more traditional lolis like Nanako, but I enjoy characters like Senko and Oshino Shinobu too. |
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| the "adult stuck in a child's body thing" has always been pretty weird to me. it don't feel right |
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LostSpectre said: Well, since there's no consensus on the actual definition of a loli, that's kind of a loaded statement. Simply put, loli is a body type that resembles very young girls except in anime artstyle 1. Look young 2. Short 3. Skinny Ie Kanna Oshino Shinobu Hachikuji Ect A short skinny granny would not classify unless she looks very young like Senko. No tall lolis exist. |
rohan121Apr 8, 2022 6:50 PM
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| a loli is a loli it doesn't matter what inside |
| Anime is fun. |
| My answer is Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade. |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
rohan121 said: Young looing girls is pretty much a given, there's still no consensus on what the cut-off point is in terms of body type or if behavior factors in, etc. LostSpectre said: Well, since there's no consensus on the actual definition of a loli, that's kind of a loaded statement. Simply put, loli is a body type that resembles very young girls except in anime artstyle 1. Look young 2. Short 3. Skinny Ie Kanna Oshino Shinobu Hachikuji Ect A short skinny granny would not classify unless she looks very young like Senko. No tall lolis exist. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| why of course both are great, for their own reasons. |
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| I were reminded how much a scumbag am I when I voted the poll. |
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| I really don't think there's anything at all inherently wrong with characters of the particular stature or archetype of """loli""" (that is, a petite physique or literally just a young child). But I've found that the more years I've lived as not-a-teenager, the less tolerant I am of occasions that an anime might inch around implicit (or explicit) lewdities in relation to...children. |
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| "Legal loli" is telling me it's okay if the child said they are 300 years old for whatever reason. Weird. |
fluffycow17 said: *becomes the one person to vote "I don't know what a loli is"*I really hope that I don't have to explain what a loli is to you guys. >:-DDDDDD |
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LostSpectre said: rohan121 said: Young looing girls is pretty much a given, there's still no consensus on what the cut-off point is in terms of body type or if behavior factors in, etc. Simply put, loli is a body type that resembles very young girls except in anime artstyle 1. Look young 2. Short 3. Skinny Ie Kanna Oshino Shinobu Hachikuji Ect A short skinny granny would not classify unless she looks very young like Senko. No tall lolis exist. I wouldn't count behavior for the purpose of this thread, and as for the body type, if the character can be mistaken for an elementary schooler, I think that's about right. There can be debates about specific characters, of course. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: fluffycow17 said: *becomes the one person to vote "I don't know what a loli is"*I really hope that I don't have to explain what a loli is to you guys. >:-DDDDDD I'm calling the police and turning on the Bat signal. |
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| I may prefer normal loli , but both are great, for me it depends on the character itself. |
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| What the hell even qualifies as a "loli" though. By that I mean, where's the line drawn? The only consistent thing I see people agree with is that it obviously includes little girl characters, but everything else seems to be debatable. Even "legal loli" seems like a grey area. Does that only include characters that despite looking like little kids are ancient vampires or some shit? Does a short small chested adult like Tatsumaki count? Does a character like Hestia count eventhough she has tig ol bitties? Is there a height requirement for this shit? How much does age even matter with this kinda stuff? Look at a character like Android 21 who's canonically much younger than she looks. These creators can literally slap whatever age they want on these characters. |
| I only see annoying lolis or cute lolis. |
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| I like everything except piercings, vore, guro, scat, inflation, saliva, or eyeball licking. |
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| difference is negligible loli is loli |
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| Nice try FBA. Not today CIA. Not deceptive enough for me, KGB. |
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| I'm fine with them. But the problem I have is when they are sexualized and pedophiles use it as jerk off material. |
| My answer is Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade. (3) |
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| regular lolis are so cute. yeah, real cute. |
_spoon_ said: Pedophiles of... cartoons? If you're trying to imply that only pedophiles are into loli, you're astoundingly ignorant about sexuality. I'm fine with them. But the problem I have is when they are sexualized and pedophiles use it as jerk off material. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| People here seem to be ignorant of the third option. The perfect specimen that has stood at the pinnacle since the dawn of time The Mental Loli The Mental Loli is the opposite of an adult loli, an adult with the mind of a child. True perfection |
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FanofAction said: Exactly. There's no consensus, it really is completely up to interpretation. I have seen a lot of people who think it's just prepubescent children, but that doesn't really track when you look at what characters are labeled a loli. Plus, you wouldn't say it isn't a loli if they look 8-10, but are drawn with secondary sex characteristics. Personally, I go with "looks 13 or younger" since that seems to be the right number, but gauging how old a char. looks is subjective. I don't think it's about behavior at all, it's just the appearance. Oh, and for Tatsumaki, anime = loli, manga = petite woman, she is stupid thick in later chapters. What the hell even qualifies as a "loli" though. By that I mean, where's the line drawn? The only consistent thing I see people agree with is that it obviously includes little girl characters, but everything else seems to be debatable. Even "legal loli" seems like a grey area. Does that only include characters that despite looking like little kids are ancient vampires or some shit? Does a short small chested adult like Tatsumaki count? Does a character like Hestia count eventhough she has tig ol bitties? Is there a height requirement for this shit? How much does age even matter with this kinda stuff? Look at a character like Android 21 who's canonically much younger than she looks. These creators can literally slap whatever age they want on these characters. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
DickwaD9000 said: That kind of just sounds like women in general when it comes to anime. People here seem to be ignorant of the third option. The perfect specimen that has stood at the pinnacle since the dawn of time The Mental Loli The Mental Loli is the opposite of an adult loli, an adult with the mind of a child. True perfection |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| In order to differentiate them, you have to touch some women other than your siblings and mother beforehand. In the flesh, drawings or statues excluded. |
SgtBateManApr 10, 2022 8:10 AM
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LostSpectre said: FanofAction said: Exactly. There's no consensus, it really is completely up to interpretation. I have seen a lot of people who think it's just prepubescent children, but that doesn't really track when you look at what characters are labeled a loli. Plus, you wouldn't say it isn't a loli if they look 8-10, but are drawn with secondary sex characteristics. Personally, I go with "looks 13 or younger" since that seems to be the right number, but gauging how old a char. looks is subjective. I don't think it's about behavior at all, it's just the appearance. Oh, and for Tatsumaki, anime = loli, manga = petite woman, she is stupid thick in later chapters. What the hell even qualifies as a "loli" though. By that I mean, where's the line drawn? The only consistent thing I see people agree with is that it obviously includes little girl characters, but everything else seems to be debatable. Even "legal loli" seems like a grey area. Does that only include characters that despite looking like little kids are ancient vampires or some shit? Does a short small chested adult like Tatsumaki count? Does a character like Hestia count eventhough she has tig ol bitties? Is there a height requirement for this shit? How much does age even matter with this kinda stuff? Look at a character like Android 21 who's canonically much younger than she looks. These creators can literally slap whatever age they want on these characters. Oh yeah, it can really be hard to tell an anime/manga characters supposed age sometimes. Also, good to know about Tatsumaki. Might have to look into that.... |
FanofActionApr 9, 2022 12:56 AM
| I prefer regular lolis (or really just "children" in general, I feel like there's always a mild sexual connotation in the word loli, even if the anime community doesn't necessarily mean it that way, and that's not what I like them for). Their look is just a visual representation of their adorable, innocent, often cheerful demeanor and I don't really like the gap between that visual and a cynical, adult personality. Mythical lolis tend to be fine (the 1000+ year old kind) because they are usually more in line with regular lolis personality-wise, either because they've been stuck at this childish maturity-level for eternity due to magic/curses/transformations, OR they are mythical beings like gods and dragons and the like, who don't take stuff seriously in a similar way as children do, or age so slowly that they literally ARE still children in their race even at that age. So yeah. Lolis trigger my maternal instincts I guess, so seeing one makes me want to hug and protect them, but then they are a 28 year old chainsmoker fed up with their job, and my brain just can't handle that. |
| Legal Loli, since i consider my aged-up Konomi Yuzuhara to be just that. after all, if Mahoro Ando from "Mahoromatic"can be a young adult of around 20, and look this impossibly adorable all the while, then who's to say Konomi from ToHeart 2 doesn't just so happen to also benefit from similar personal traits? sure, one is an Android, while the other is not, but... i Digress; - Mahoro-chan -  - Konomi-chan -  |
MasterTasukeApr 9, 2022 7:20 AM
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| I like the idea of a human age adult woman (18-90 years old) who looks like a little kid. It can be used in a fun way, and because they're an adult they can find themselves in situations that are made less creepy than if they were an actual kid. One of my favourite anime girls is Moesaki Ichigo who's a woman in her early 20s who dresses up as a magical girl and has this sort of chuunibyo personality. It's very cute. Riri Higashi from Fruit Tart is also a good girl. She's an adult, but she likes dressing up as a schoolgirl. |
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| I'd say regular loli, since loli bitch is the best loli sub-trope |
| Stuff in the streets, Stuff with drip in the sheets |
| None. Milf's all the way. But i'd pick a loli over character limits any day. |
| My waifu is the most wonderful waifu. Mai Valentine. We're freaking out that we're running out of time, but to do what? Should i stop and think of that? Is there something i could do to slow it down? Live in a day for once, instead of watch it sprinting by |
| Any Loli is great. I like all types of shorts heighted Loli girls (not always in a sexual way). |
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LostSpectre said: FanofAction said: Exactly. There's no consensus, it really is completely up to interpretation. I have seen a lot of people who think it's just prepubescent children, but that doesn't really track when you look at what characters are labeled a loli. Plus, you wouldn't say it isn't a loli if they look 8-10, but are drawn with secondary sex characteristics. Personally, I go with "looks 13 or younger" since that seems to be the right number, but gauging how old a char. looks is subjective. I don't think it's about behavior at all, it's just the appearance. Oh, and for Tatsumaki, anime = loli, manga = petite woman, she is stupid thick in later chapters. What the hell even qualifies as a "loli" though. By that I mean, where's the line drawn? The only consistent thing I see people agree with is that it obviously includes little girl characters, but everything else seems to be debatable. Even "legal loli" seems like a grey area. Does that only include characters that despite looking like little kids are ancient vampires or some shit? Does a short small chested adult like Tatsumaki count? Does a character like Hestia count eventhough she has tig ol bitties? Is there a height requirement for this shit? How much does age even matter with this kinda stuff? Look at a character like Android 21 who's canonically much younger than she looks. These creators can literally slap whatever age they want on these characters. The definition of loli and which characters can be labelled as such should be obvious since it means pre-pubescent girl. It's easy to tell by looking at their body and their given age. However, the confusion lies when anime/manga plays with the rule and do whatever they want and attribute random body type to literally every possible age. It is now impossible to hold a definition when content creators specifically go against the definition. But the worst thing to do imo is to change the definition so that it can include all exceptions to the rule. Like a lot of people tend to believe loli is referring to look and not about whether the character reached puberty. The problem with loli referring to look is that it lost its initial purpose and now it means absolutely nothing anymore. The concept is as vague as possible and pretty much any character can be labelled as loli since people use the size, height, body gesture and behaviour as an argument for labelling them as such. It's a mess. I prefer to keep thinsg simple and say that loli is normally referring to age and not by look when the information given are realistically conceivable. And if the information given don't make sense (300 years old child), we could accept to exceptionally label them as loli, but doesn't take this example as a proof to change the definition of loli. |
Hrybami said: LostSpectre said: Exactly. There's no consensus, it really is completely up to interpretation. I have seen a lot of people who think it's just prepubescent children, but that doesn't really track when you look at what characters are labeled a loli. Plus, you wouldn't say it isn't a loli if they look 8-10, but are drawn with secondary sex characteristics. Personally, I go with "looks 13 or younger" since that seems to be the right number, but gauging how old a char. looks is subjective. I don't think it's about behavior at all, it's just the appearance. Oh, and for Tatsumaki, anime = loli, manga = petite woman, she is stupid thick in later chapters. The definition of loli and which characters can be labelled as such should be obvious since it means pre-pubescent girl. It's easy to tell by looking at their body and their given age. However, the confusion lies when anime/manga plays with the rule and do whatever they want and attribute random body type to literally every possible age. It is now impossible to hold a definition when content creators specifically go against the definition. But the worst thing to do imo is to change the definition so that it can include all exceptions to the rule. Like a lot of people tend to believe loli is referring to look and not about whether the character reached puberty. The problem with loli referring to look is that it lost its initial purpose and now it means absolutely nothing anymore. The concept is as vague as possible and pretty much any character can be labelled as loli since people use the size, height, body gesture and behaviour as an argument for labelling them as such. It's a mess. I prefer to keep thinsg simple and say that loli is normally referring to age and not by look when the information given are realistically conceivable. And if the information given don't make sense (300 years old child), we could accept to exceptionally label them as loli, but doesn't take this example as a proof to change the definition of loli. If you intentionally go against the way the word is popularly used then I would argue you are creating more confusion than the people using it "wrongly". Calling it a "wrong" definition is even called into question when that's the definition you will find if you find one. The held definition is "a female character with a childlike appearance". Boom, done, and conveniently this is the definition all of animanga follows. They're not the ones going against the definition. But the thing I really want to point is that this debate literally only occurs when someone tries to ascribe morality to the existence of lolis; either as a defense from those that like them or a condemnation from those that don't. People would not care if not for that. |
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| I'm fine with both, although legal loli has more advantages as they can drink, more of them make for a nice wife, and such. |
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G1llette said: Every "adult stuck in a child's body" in anime also acts exactly like a child. So c'mon, we know what they're really trying to do with these "legal" lolis. It's like when someone dates a 15 year old and says "I thought she was 18". the "adult stuck in a child's body thing" has always been pretty weird to me. it don't feel right One should think that if a person lives to be 20 years old, she'd act somewhat like what a 20 year old would act, or if a person lives to be 3000, she'd be very well spoken and wise, no matter what her body looks like. But when a character is 3000 years old but looks and acts like a child, then that "3000 years old" is fake, or they're just using the marketing mechanic so that LostSpectre could feel aboveboard while looking at a 5 year old. |
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| Lolis are for patting, not for fapping. |
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cunnysseurHrybami said: It isn't nearly that straightforward, the origin of loli/lolicon is not prepubescent girls, it's essentially what we call "moe" today. Implying that there was ever a consensus on loli characters being prepubescent and not merely youthful or child-like, is simply inaccurate. It's pretty clear that today the usage of loli extends to young pubescent characters as well, and that the moniker is applied to characters even if there's no sexual connotation in the source material. LostSpectre said: Exactly. There's no consensus, it really is completely up to interpretation. I have seen a lot of people who think it's just prepubescent children, but that doesn't really track when you look at what characters are labeled a loli. Plus, you wouldn't say it isn't a loli if they look 8-10, but are drawn with secondary sex characteristics. Personally, I go with "looks 13 or younger" since that seems to be the right number, but gauging how old a char. looks is subjective. I don't think it's about behavior at all, it's just the appearance. Oh, and for Tatsumaki, anime = loli, manga = petite woman, she is stupid thick in later chapters. The definition of loli and which characters can be labelled as such should be obvious since it means pre-pubescent girl. It's easy to tell by looking at their body and their given age. However, the confusion lies when anime/manga plays with the rule and do whatever they want and attribute random body type to literally every possible age. It is now impossible to hold a definition when content creators specifically go against the definition. But the worst thing to do imo is to change the definition so that it can include all exceptions to the rule. Like a lot of people tend to believe loli is referring to look and not about whether the character reached puberty. The problem with loli referring to look is that it lost its initial purpose and now it means absolutely nothing anymore. The concept is as vague as possible and pretty much any character can be labelled as loli since people use the size, height, body gesture and behaviour as an argument for labelling them as such. It's a mess. I prefer to keep thinsg simple and say that loli is normally referring to age and not by look when the information given are realistically conceivable. And if the information given don't make sense (300 years old child), we could accept to exceptionally label them as loli, but doesn't take this example as a proof to change the definition of loli. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| i don't "like" them as in attracted to them but i prefer regular as characters. to me i think if you're gonna look and act like a kid (emphasis on the act here) you might as well just be a kid. other than specific circumstances where it makes sense it is hard for me to really like characters who are like 5000 but mentally still act like a small child. like it seems like it's specifically just thrown in there to clear people to thirst on them and nothing else if there isn't some explanation behind it because like katsucats said if you have been alive thousands of years surely you would have lived through many things and become more mature and knowledgeable from the world around you? |
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| Why anime fans are so obsessed with lolis? I choosed neither. |
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