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Jan 26, 2022 9:05 PM

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MacchiaStella said:
I didn't ask for ur take in it


... um, you do realize that you posted this in a discussion forum, right?

Nobody is really "asking" for anybody's take here (aside from the OP, technically), but any rational person should know that it's kind of a given that any opinion you put out there will be subject to the scrutiny of others, whether they agree or disagree.

That's the entire point of a discussion forum: discourse. Shocking, I know.
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I know its ultimately not as bad as doing it in real life, as nothing in fiction is, I just don't understand the obsession with it. I can wrap my head around people being into certain character designs, but this isn't that. Its more of a concept than a specific character or type of character. And there's a lot of concepts where I just don't understand why anyone would be into it.

Incest in general just has this kinda weird grey area where you have to ask if it should count if they aren't blood related. Its just a whole thing that's weird to think about. Granted I've seen far worse things that'd scar a "normal" person for life. Specially something that starts with a "v". Compared to that, incest in anime is extremely tame. Its bitch level stuff to get offended by.
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Incest is gross in my eyes. Not my thing




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anirudhtsuki said:
I see lots of fans defending fanservice in anime saying it's fiction and people taking it serious are weird. Do you have the same opinions on incest?


1st of all I doubt anyone is going to advocate for incest or defend it. 2nd there is a huge difference between actual incest and someone just having a sister or brother complex.

Anime rarely ever has any actual incest themes being displayed (with the exception of Hentai). If there is it's extremely rare and likely not used to promote it if it's being added to any fictional story. Yet it is pretty common to find a sister or brother complex theme in many Animes. Though many might feel uncomfortable about these themes, people in real life often experience from having sister or brother complex as they grow up throughout their adolescents. It might not be as exaggerated as it is in Anime but it's something that is pretty normal and happens often in every day real life.

It's only when a sister or brother complex is taken too far where there is an actual physical or sexual relationship that develops that ends up being looked down upon. Which it's likely many users on MAL would be hard pressed to find even a half a dozen Anime titles that ever even advocate such a thing beyond the Hentai genre.
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Jan 26, 2022 9:50 PM

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My opinion on incest is the same as with live-action movies and TV series, it's just that anime really enjoys making it a fetish.
Jan 26, 2022 9:56 PM

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there's a serious lack of momcest and oyakodon in anime. that's my stance.
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Jan 26, 2022 10:12 PM
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any genre okay. but incest, disgarsting shet.
Jan 26, 2022 10:13 PM

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incest is illogical, like there doesn't exist any other person than your siblings
Jan 26, 2022 11:09 PM

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Incest in anime is a good example of how cognitive bias works.

Make an anime about an ordinary couple: wholesome and cute.
Announce they're actually family members: disgusting and unacceptable.

Reality: it's just ink on the paper.

Jan 26, 2022 11:15 PM
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Tristar_Shinobi said:
incest is illogical, like there doesn't exist any other person than your siblings
if you are bringing illogical. It's illogical to break a boulder with a headbutt, defeat a skyscraper with muscles with just Parkour, a a woman birthing a non human foetus etc. But it's all presented as normal. Incest is logical and normal than those things I just wanted to hear the opinions but reading this somewhat exasperated me.
Jan 26, 2022 11:19 PM

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It's not really something that should be taken seriously as one should in real life. Though it's still weird for me personally.
Jan 26, 2022 11:56 PM
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It's no different then any other fetish in anime it's fiction so it doesn't matter.
They are not even blood related most of the time lol.
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Jan 27, 2022 12:05 AM
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Gonna drop the very controversial opinion of not giving a shit. It's never even done in a remotely realistic way so i cant take it seriously
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Well, I love it. And I consider lesbian incest to be a treat for the true man of culture Hehehehehehehe

IMO we need more sister lesbians in anime, lesbian incest is wincest,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES



Jan 27, 2022 1:05 AM

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In anime... I don't really care. Most of the time the siblings are not even related by blood. In the few series I can think of the "love" stays unrequited. If it bothers you stop watching it...
As far as IRL... I could care even less. As long as your both consenting adults I don't care what you do, or who you do it with. Just don't have kids because you likely cant afford the medical treatment. It literally has nothing to do with me, myself personally.
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anirudhtsuki said:
Tristar_Shinobi said:
incest is illogical, like there doesn't exist any other person than your siblings
if you are bringing illogical. It's illogical to break a boulder with a headbutt, defeat a skyscraper with muscles with just Parkour, a a woman birthing a non human foetus etc. But it's all presented as normal. Incest is logical and normal than those things I just wanted to hear the opinions but reading this somewhat exasperated me.
First of all please bless us with your OPINION . :)
Jan 27, 2022 1:25 AM

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I think everyone have a different fetish lol.

Like every thing if it is done, it is because there is public for it
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I like how there's more people agreeing that invest is weird then people talking about loli's being weird. If you said something about loli's then everyone would be defending it lol.
Jan 27, 2022 1:28 AM
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Tristar_Shinobi said:
anirudhtsuki said:
if you are bringing illogical. It's illogical to break a boulder with a headbutt, defeat a skyscraper with muscles with just Parkour, a a woman birthing a non human foetus etc. But it's all presented as normal. Incest is logical and normal than those things I just wanted to hear the opinions but reading this somewhat exasperated me.
First of all please bless us with your OPINION . :)
my opinion is just as stated in the first comment. I'm neutral in it,if it's there it's there. Same with fam service. I'm not admonishing you for hating Incest but using logic as an excuse. Love has no logic even IRL.
Jan 27, 2022 1:28 AM

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Well, incest in hentai is ok I guess. I mean I don't mind unless it's some weird ntr type shit. But if there's a normal show with incest aspects, then nah. That ain't my cup of tea.
Jan 27, 2022 1:34 AM
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It makes me uncomfortable. It’s apparently a trope for the weirdo dad to be all pervy with his daughter and her friends. It leaves a bad feeling in my stomach.

Step siblings however, I think it’s all game.
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Jan 27, 2022 2:44 AM

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There's nothing wrong with incest whether it's fictional or real if you actually think about it. Not sure why a lot of people are saying its ok if its fictional and not ok if its done in reality. Its different than other sexual themes like ntr and rape on an ethical level.

This article articulates the argument way better than I can:
https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/is-incest-wrong/

Also incest is best ;)
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anirudhtsuki said:
Tristar_Shinobi said:
First of all please bless us with your OPINION . :)
my opinion is just as stated in the first comment. I'm neutral in it,if it's there it's there. Same with fam service. I'm not admonishing you for hating Incest but using logic as an excuse. Love has no logic even IRL.

I see lots of fans defending fanservice in anime saying it's fiction and people taking it serious are weird. Do you have the same opinions on incest?
Oh sorry I didn’t see your opinion
Jan 27, 2022 2:59 AM

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I make no bones about the fact that I'm strongly in favor of it, both in anime and outside, when and where applicable.

My single biggest gripe with incest in anime, despite the constant chatter and uproar about it from some corners, is actually the severe lack of it. And specifically the severe lack of it outside of ecchi and/or harem gag comedies, and hentai, used for either humor or pornographic titillation (or some combination thereof) 99.9%+ of the time.

I've long been an advocate for sibling love and pairings and cousin love and pairings (not as interested in some other forms of incest including parent-child/offspring) and vehemently want to see it better represented and the full spectrum and all its shades and facets better explored uninhibited in this wonderful, free-ranging, boundless medium which is a raw pulsating canvas for the mind and heart.

So yes, I want to see a far greater volume and quantity of incest-centric content produced, but away from exploitation, away from judgment, away from commodification and from reduction of it as a punchline or tool for arousal. I want a fairer picture finally given than offered by most and in unrelenting, copious amounts.
Jan 27, 2022 3:06 AM
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It puts me off, even if it's fiction. There are some boundaries I don't want to cross and incest is one of them.
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i find it kind of weird. i'd always think "isn't there any other way could they have met, rather than through their parents divorce"
Jan 27, 2022 3:19 AM

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I would rather have a realistic sibling depictions. I know incest is a trope at this point in anime given Japanese obsession, but it's nice to see a wholesome depiction of siblings once in a while in anime.

Oregairu and Mawaru Penguindrum are the first ones that comes to mind when it comes to this.




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i dont seek it out personally, but i also wont stop watching a anime because of it, its not like its real or anything
Jan 27, 2022 3:51 AM
I used to dislike it now I enjoy some of them. Depends of the characters as always.
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Jan 27, 2022 3:54 AM

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when it's fictional i can tolerate it. but i'm not a fan.
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I agree with all those saying that, in fiction, incest can add an interesting/entertaining twist to the plot, and I actually enjoy it when properly explored. however, I don't enjoy incest-bait shows or sub-plots, and find it a lame way to beat around the bush when the author could just make the story develop in THAT way with no problems. also, it is just cringe to have those overly attached little sisters behave so sexually. there is nothing more unrealistic in a siblings relationship HAHA not that anime should be realistic, just anything bait lowkey pisses me off, that's all.
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Jan 27, 2022 5:55 AM
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I don't know what's wrong with Japan either.
My theory is that a lot of Japanese people don't have siblings, so they think siblings are only like a childhood friend for you.
Jan 27, 2022 6:53 AM

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I can tolerate inseki. For me, incest is a miss in anime, but a hit-or-miss in hentai.
Jan 27, 2022 7:03 AM
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Although it's fiction, fanservice and incest would be totally unnecessary in an anime if it has an altogether different genre
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Don't give a shit, it's not real. A Song of Fire and Ice/GoT is full of incest and its still a great series.

I think the issue is how the theme is approached. On GoT I always had the impression the intention was to make the viewer uncomfortable and question the character's morale, while on anime, most of the time, it seems to be made with the intent to arouse.

I find incest between ascendant and descendant repugnant in any shape or form (it screams abuse all over it). From a collateral line of relatives point of view, I still don't like it, but I won't condemn as it's not my problem and it doesn't necessarily would be abusive. But I think it's quite disgusting to depict any kind of incest with the intention to please the public, and anime seems to do it quite constantly, which I find disturbing.
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Oh here we go again someone saying not liking fanservice is weird when it's not and incest is kind of cringe if I'm being honest but whatever.

There is this thing called an opinion just an FYI if someone doesn't like fanservice that's the same thing as not liking an anime. That's goes for incest too.

Again I'm neutral on fanservice I don't care about it either way.
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As long as it's fiction, I don't care.
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Incest is a little strange in anime I will admit. I guess it comes from the different culture that Japan has. I'm not massively weirded out by it but I'm not actively searching for it. I'd rather it didn't crop up in regular shows though, ecchi shows are for horny bastards anyway so degeneracy is expected.
Jan 27, 2022 10:50 AM

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pedophilia and rapey stuff are much more common in anime and manga. but most weebs are not "weirded out" by them for some reason, like you're saying "ew, incest, disgusting" and then you go and give a 10/10 to an anime like mushoku tensei.
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Tristar_Shinobi said:
incest is illogical, like there doesn't exist any other person than your siblings


The same can be said about any other person and relationship though. That's not exclusive to incestuous relationships. There always exists "any other person" out there apart from the one the person in question has decided they have reason to pursue.

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I like how there's more people agreeing that invest is weird then people talking about loli's being weird. If you said something about loli's then everyone would be defending it lol.


It's one of the broadly agreed upon taboos and broadly sanctioned groups it's okay and not only socially acceptable but rather socially encouraged to publicly detest and despise and condemn and attempt to shame and jeer at, but as always, "broad" and "broadly" is certainly not universal. There is no universal consensus on any subject in the entirety of existence in all recorded history of human civilization and surely before the recording as well.

It just so happens that one group, the majority which demonizes it, is very much the loudest and most aggressive about it. Those who disagree just often rather not bother speaking up to defend it and be dogpiled on by an angry mob or simply practice the aspect of their lives which would be reviled, if applicable, in private and in silence.

Whether concerning its portrayal in art and fiction or outside of it, it's not something you can usually have a constructive or civil conversation about with many as most of those with torch and pitchforks rarely ever voice or articulate any sensible critique but rather fall back on the same instinctual opposition and "disgust" factor argument that used to be popularly accepted for homosexuality as well just a few decades ago (and still is in many places and circles).
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real or fake incest is always weird.
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Eh...I have no strong opinions one way or the other
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Not a problem as long as it does not involve minors. No worse than GoT.
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Everybody repeat after me "IT'S NOT REAL!" If you don't like what you see go watch or read something else. Shits not hard
Jan 27, 2022 11:28 AM

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If the story is serious about incest then yes it is weird
But if it's just for light ecchi or comedy then i don't see much problem
Jan 27, 2022 11:57 AM
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incest is great nothing weird at all as they say with many doujins and hentai incest is wincest but not always 😏
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Nothing inherently wrong with it - doesn't matter if real or fiction. In case of real relationships the only criteria I see is that it's between consenting adults, beyond that I don't concern myself with what other people do in their bedrooms. And with fiction anything goes.
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I find it disgusting but it's not necessarily a bad thing.

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