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Mar 20, 2021 3:00 PM
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I cried when rem talked or at least her voice actor talked.
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JeXxTaR said:
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Because it completely ruins the flow of the scene, re:zero has an issue with interrupting itself to deliver exposition

What exposition are you talking about? Ram literally just said why is she fighting and if I don't know why they are fighting I don't care about the fight itself
I'm talking generally and not that specific scene
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Ram's confession felt stupid and out of place

I don't understand why you think it felt out of place. Roswaal was talking about how he's disappointed that Ram is not trying to get her revenge for her brethren, as we all know, Roswaal is one of the people who caused the destruction of her homeland, and his contract with Ram was that if he ever lost the will to live he would let Ram kill him to achieve her revenge, this all lead to Ram saying he doesn't understand anything, and that she doesn't care about revenge because she loves him.
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Gilgameshuu said:
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Ram's confession felt stupid and out of place

I don't understand why you think it felt out of place. Roswaal was talking about how he's disappointed that Ram is not trying to get her revenge for her brethren, as we all know, Roswaal is one of the people who caused the destruction of her homeland, and his contract with Ram was that if he ever lost the will to live he would let Ram kill him to achieve her revenge, this all lead to Ram saying he doesn't understand anything, and that she doesn't care about revenge because she loves him.
I know what happened, I'm saying that stopping a fight scene to have Ram talk about Roswaal feels out of place
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Atlos said:
I know what happened, I'm saying that stopping a fight scene to have Ram talk about Roswaal feels out of place

For what it is worth, she wants to avoid fighting with him needlessly and a peaceful surrender is always an option. Well, she tried anyway but it aggravated him even further because she doesn't know the full situation of Roswaal's past.

Moreover, what triggered her to start confessing was when Roswaal called himself a "phony standing on a pile of corpses" (w.r.t. his soul transfer and all other events related to his goal). On the other hand, she doesn't see him as some phony but as some pitiable person living in the past and unable to move on.

The situation resembles how Rem didn't see Subaru as a loser and wanted him to move on from his past (or how he saw himself due to it).

Both Roswaal and Subaru were backed into a corner and committed to do something rash, in response to which the maid sisters tried talking them out of it. Ofc, Roswaal's situation is different than Subaru's since Roswaal has been dealing with his emotional baggage for easily 50 times the amount of time Subaru has ever lived.

So this wasn't seemingly out of place. But was it stupid on the other hand? Could be, I don't have an answer to that and it depends on whether you see it as Stockholm syndrome or not.

As a side note, puck disappears from the scene while she is confessing, so he was probably gathering mana from the surrounding to release that wall of icy mirrors around Roswaal.
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Am I the only one creeped out by the kinda-but-not-kinda romantic interest Elsa showed to Garf? I mean...he's 14. And she's a grown ass woman. That's some shota-onee-chan shit right there.


You're right but c'mon, she's crazy xD
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God this episode is nothing short of phenomenal. Roswaal's deadpan look in his eyes to show that if Ram is truly gone then he will have nothing to live for since his gospel is burned. Emilia's growth as a character feels so compelling since she has always been not the most optimistic or even hopeful character and seeing her realise how nothing about her heritage defines her is just really remarkable to see.

Beatrice and Subaru's confrontation and Subaru's endless determination for the people he cares about not matter how much of a weak loser he is, that is why exactly why he's one of my favourite protagonists ever and Beatrice saying Subaru's name just shows us that she broke from her chains.

This season is amazing, Re:Zero in general means so much to me and this episode shows exactly why, if the ending sticks the landing then I'm probably gonna give this cour a 10/10
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KreatorX said:
Atlos said:
I know what happened, I'm saying that stopping a fight scene to have Ram talk about Roswaal feels out of place

For what it is worth, she wants to avoid fighting with him needlessly and a peaceful surrender is always an option. Well, she tried anyway but it aggravated him even further because she doesn't know the full situation of Roswaal's past.

Moreover, what triggered her to start confessing was when Roswaal called himself a "phony standing on a pile of corpses" (w.r.t. his soul transfer and all other events related to his goal). On the other hand, she doesn't see him as some phony but as some pitiable person living in the past and unable to move on.

The situation resembles how Rem didn't see Subaru as a loser and wanted him to move on from his past (or how he saw himself due to it).

Both Roswaal and Subaru were backed into a corner and committed to do something rash, in response to which the maid sisters tried talking them out of it. Ofc, Roswaal's situation is different than Subaru's since Roswaal has been dealing with his emotional baggage for easily 50 times the amount of time Subaru has ever lived.

So this wasn't seemingly out of place. But was it stupid on the other hand? Could be, I don't have an answer to that and it depends on whether you see it as Stockholm syndrome or not.

As a side note, puck disappears from the scene while she is confessing, so he was probably gathering mana from the surrounding to release that wall of icy mirrors around Roswaal.
While the confession makes sense in-universe the actually placing of the scene is what I take issue with
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Atlos said:
KreatorX said:

For what it is worth, she wants to avoid fighting with him needlessly and a peaceful surrender is always an option. Well, she tried anyway but it aggravated him even further because she doesn't know the full situation of Roswaal's past.

Moreover, what triggered her to start confessing was when Roswaal called himself a "phony standing on a pile of corpses" (w.r.t. his soul transfer and all other events related to his goal). On the other hand, she doesn't see him as some phony but as some pitiable person living in the past and unable to move on.

The situation resembles how Rem didn't see Subaru as a loser and wanted him to move on from his past (or how he saw himself due to it).

Both Roswaal and Subaru were backed into a corner and committed to do something rash, in response to which the maid sisters tried talking them out of it. Ofc, Roswaal's situation is different than Subaru's since Roswaal has been dealing with his emotional baggage for easily 50 times the amount of time Subaru has ever lived.

So this wasn't seemingly out of place. But was it stupid on the other hand? Could be, I don't have an answer to that and it depends on whether you see it as Stockholm syndrome or not.

As a side note, puck disappears from the scene while she is confessing, so he was probably gathering mana from the surrounding to release that wall of icy mirrors around Roswaal.
While the confession makes sense in-universe the actually placing of the scene is what I take issue with

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Okeanix said:
Atlos said:
While the confession makes sense in-universe the actually placing of the scene is what I take issue with

a.k.a This shows is so good but i need reasons to hate because i'm dumb boomer elitist syndrome.

Haters need to cry more.
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Atlos said:
Okeanix said:

a.k.a This shows is so good but i need reasons to hate because i'm dumb boomer elitist syndrome.

Haters need to cry more.
I love re zero fans

I love EvaTards they are funny.
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Okeanix said:
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I love re zero fans

I love EvaTards they are funny.
At least I'm not calling people retarded because they don't like a show I like :)
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Yo Ram regrew her horn? wonder since when and if she waited to use it till she goes against Roswaal to catch him off guard

Roswaal clearly doesn't know how to reject an Oni Girl's love, he should have used the " ̵i̵ ̵l̵o̵v̵e̵ ̵e̵m̵i̵l̵i̵a̵ ̵ " method.

Garf vs Elsa was quite bloody... or rather Garf vs Everyone since he dealt with Meili's pets aswell... like ripping one of the maebeast's head off.
Loved it when Garf and Elsa went completely ham and just bit another... in the end Elsa just gave up? The dead maebeast Garf threw at her was easily avoidable for her. I guess after touching her bleeding neck she got off to herself or something and realized it doesn't even matter to her if Garf or she herself dies.
At least Elsa cared for Meili even to the point of immediately turning her back completely ignoring Garf in their fight when Meili was in danger.
With killing Elsa Garf did something Reinhard didn't manage to do since she escaped from Reinhard, if he realizes that lol
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I guess those Roswaal flashback parts were paid off with this scene. I was WTFing when Ram confessed. Great OST as well.
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Damn I was so mesmerized with the episode that I watched the whole credits rolling and just thought about it. And I am still thinking.

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Bruh it's the blizzard death all over again except it's more emotional, looking at the end credits. Fuck you OST for making me tear up at the end. Best episode of the season so far. No comment as I'm still processing all the crazy shit that happened.
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Thanks a lot! Do you know if the Emilia insert song as well on this date?


I can't really read japanese but using google translate, they say that ram's song will be part of the character's songs album, so I think emilia's will be included in this album.

src: https://twitter.com/Rezero_official/status/1369665183732301825


any news about this?
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NHS-KEMISH said:
higan15 said:


I can't really read japanese but using google translate, they say that ram's song will be part of the character's songs album, so I think emilia's will be included in this album.

src: https://twitter.com/Rezero_official/status/1369665183732301825


any news about this?


https://youtu.be/pPLqffi0v4s (Ram's Insert)
https://youtu.be/5c_jTxvutlw (Emilia's Insert)
Mar 29, 2021 6:07 PM
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This is by far the best episode of season 2. Cringe from the dialogues was toned down and the last 10 minutes were pure joy.
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Holy heck, this episode... 😳
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The ending scenes along with that OST were just mind-blowing in this episode🔥😍!! And goddamn, the action scenes between Elsa and Garfiel were really something else, also that hickey xD.

Also it looked like Ram was finally coming into spotlight with her confession after nearly 2 and a half seasons, only for her to get shot down by Rosswal and even possibly killed..😢

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The ending scenes along with that OST were just mind-blowing in this episode🔥😍!! And goddamn, the action scenes between Elsa and Garfiel were really something else, also that hickey xD.

Also it looked like Ram was finally coming into spotlight with her confession after nearly 2 and a half seasons, only for her to get shot down by Rosswal and even possibly killed..😢


if ram was killed he will stab himself again to reset cause he doesn't take loss as an answer
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Sugram22 said:
EXCALIBUR_843 said:
The ending scenes along with that OST were just mind-blowing in this episode🔥😍!! And goddamn, the action scenes between Elsa and Garfiel were really something else, also that hickey xD.

Also it looked like Ram was finally coming into spotlight with her confession after nearly 2 and a half seasons, only for her to get shot down by Rosswal and even possibly killed..😢


if ram was killed he will stab himself again to reset cause he doesn't take loss as an answer

Ram dying could've been a loss for Rosswal?? Could you please elaborate on this as I'm quite confused about the same..

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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
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if ram was killed he will stab himself again to reset cause he doesn't take loss as an answer

Ram dying could've been a loss for Rosswal?? Could you please elaborate on this as I'm quite confused about the same..


i was talking about Subaru he has power to reset not him, Subaru cares for Ram to as a friend and hes not about to lose ppl he cares about

i thought mentioning reset and stabbing himself again to reset makes it obvious
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Sugram22 said:
EXCALIBUR_843 said:

Ram dying could've been a loss for Rosswal?? Could you please elaborate on this as I'm quite confused about the same..


i was talking about Subaru he has power to reset not him, Subaru cares for Ram to as a friend and hes not about to lose ppl he cares about

i thought mentioning reset and stabbing himself again to reset makes it obvious

Oh! Sorry, I thought you were talking about Rosswal cuz he also has a similar kinda power like return by death, except his returned version starts out from the beginning again without any memory of the past before the death.

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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
Sugram22 said:


i was talking about Subaru he has power to reset not him, Subaru cares for Ram to as a friend and hes not about to lose ppl he cares about

i thought mentioning reset and stabbing himself again to reset makes it obvious

Oh! Sorry, I thought you were talking about Rosswal cuz he also has a similar kinda power like return by death, except his returned version starts out from the beginning again without any memory of the past before the death.


i missed that, i mean didn't know he had similar power or forgot about it
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Sugram22 said:
EXCALIBUR_843 said:

Oh! Sorry, I thought you were talking about Rosswal cuz he also has a similar kinda power like return by death, except his returned version starts out from the beginning again without any memory of the past before the death.


i missed that, i mean didn't know he had similar power or forgot about it

He doesn't have that kind of power
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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
Sugram22 said:


i was talking about Subaru he has power to reset not him, Subaru cares for Ram to as a friend and hes not about to lose ppl he cares about

i thought mentioning reset and stabbing himself again to reset makes it obvious

Oh! Sorry, I thought you were talking about Rosswal cuz he also has a similar kinda power like return by death, except his returned version starts out from the beginning again without any memory of the past before the death.

For clarification, Roswaal doesn't have any powers similar to RbD.
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Gilgameshuu said:
EXCALIBUR_843 said:

Oh! Sorry, I thought you were talking about Rosswal cuz he also has a similar kinda power like return by death, except his returned version starts out from the beginning again without any memory of the past before the death.

For clarification, Roswaal doesn't have any powers similar to RbD.

If a person is able to return back to a starting point in oast but without retaining his/her memory from the future, can't it be considered similar to RBD??

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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
Gilgameshuu said:

For clarification, Roswaal doesn't have any powers similar to RbD.

If a person is able to return back to a starting point in oast but without retaining his/her memory from the future, can't it be considered similar to RBD??

But Roswaal can't do something like that
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Gilgameshuu said:
EXCALIBUR_843 said:

If a person is able to return back to a starting point in oast but without retaining his/her memory from the future, can't it be considered similar to RBD??

But Roswaal can't do something like that

Then what did Rosswal talk about in the S2 part 1 ep (I can't remember the episode number) where he was killed of by the rabbits. I clearly remember him talking something about "I can start over again, but I don't retain the memories of the future like you, and I've been doing this for a while in order to achieve my goal"

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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
Gilgameshuu said:

But Roswaal can't do something like that

Then what did Rosswal talk about in the S2 part 1 ep (I can't remember the episode number) where he was killed of by the rabbits. I clearly remember him talking something about "I can start over again, but I don't retain the memories of the future like you, and I've been doing this for a while in order to achieve my goal"


In episode 11 when Rosswal dies he says something like this. "Do not mistake me Subaru. My present self will end here, but it is fine because my others self, that is not me, will fulfill my wish."

Rosswal can not RBD - only Subaru can do that, as far as we know.
‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz.
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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
Then what did Rosswal talk about in the S2 part 1 ep (I can't remember the episode number) where he was killed of by the rabbits. I clearly remember him talking something about "I can start over again, but I don't retain the memories of the future like you, and I've been doing this for a while in order to achieve my goal"
He was referring to Subaru's power. He knows Subaru can change the past (but does not know how exactly - otherwise he would kill Subaru on spot to force him to restart), so he was talking about the past version of him. That past version of him, while not having any memories of the future, will do different things based on what changes in his copy of the Tome of Wisdom (and it changes because of Subaru's RBD).

I hope this clarify it a bit.
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BromWalar said:
EXCALIBUR_843 said:

Then what did Rosswal talk about in the S2 part 1 ep (I can't remember the episode number) where he was killed of by the rabbits. I clearly remember him talking something about "I can start over again, but I don't retain the memories of the future like you, and I've been doing this for a while in order to achieve my goal"


In episode 11 when Rosswal dies he says something like this. "Do not mistake me Subaru. My present self will end here, but it is fine because my others self, that is not me, will fulfill my wish."

Rosswal can not RBD - only Subaru can do that, as far as we know.

Which other self is Rosswal talking here? The new version of him in the past again after Subaru RBD's, r8?

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mozgow said:
EXCALIBUR_843 said:
Then what did Rosswal talk about in the S2 part 1 ep (I can't remember the episode number) where he was killed of by the rabbits. I clearly remember him talking something about "I can start over again, but I don't retain the memories of the future like you, and I've been doing this for a while in order to achieve my goal"
He was referring to Subaru's power. He knows Subaru can change the past (but does not know how exactly - otherwise he would kill Subaru on spot to force him to restart), so he was talking about the past version of him. That past version of him, while not having any memories of the future, will do different things based on what changes in his copy of the Tome of Wisdom (and it changes because of Subaru's RBD).

I hope this clarify it a bit.

Yeah I now understand what you're trying to say, it's basically that Rosswal has faith that his past version that will appear after Subaru returns by death will take decisions that will benefit his final plan, inspite of Subaru influencing past events, am I r8?

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EXCALIBUR_843 said:
mozgow said:
He was referring to Subaru's power. He knows Subaru can change the past (but does not know how exactly - otherwise he would kill Subaru on spot to force him to restart), so he was talking about the past version of him. That past version of him, while not having any memories of the future, will do different things based on what changes in his copy of the Tome of Wisdom (and it changes because of Subaru's RBD).

I hope this clarify it a bit.

Yeah I now understand what you're trying to say, it's basically that Rosswal has faith that his past version that will appear after Subaru returns by death will take decisions that will benefit his final plan, inspite of Subaru influencing past events, am I r8?
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Yes, you are right :)

Thanks so much for the clarification buddy, much appreciated :D

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Holy shit. How can someone come up with this.

Re:Zero is really something else. Amazing episode again. This is definitely in my top 3 episodes rn.
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Ram has quickly become one of my favorite characters in the series. That was a great conclusion to the two fights and White Fox did an awesome job.
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Okey whitefox okey, your budgets really put in the right place.
Even with such conditions n covid, your staff bring such an amazing fight scane.
To be honest, eventhough i'm not have high expectation before.
But, i will rewatch with higher resolution and sub. for personal satisfied.

It's especially impressive since Mushoku Tensei aired at the same time which also had really quality visuals (they made Studio Bind just for MT's production, which kind of makes sense since a lot of the main studio's resources were prob going into this).
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Is it the end of Elsa at last? I'm gonna miss her tbh!
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Is it just me or did you also find it weird that the episode almost completely skipped Emilia's visions of different future scenarios?

It's supposed to be a core part of the difficulty of the trials in general, to accept that they're headed for huge uncertainty. I thought it was just odd for Emilia to accept that fact right away after witnessing some of those, which we didn't even get to see as viewers.


Other than that, it was a magnificent episode, I'm probably going to give this season a 9/10 after completing it. Glad I stuck around with the show, it got much better with each season.
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Is it just me or did you also find it weird that the episode almost completely skipped Emilia's visions of different future scenarios?
That's almost exactly how it was in the LN. The LN has one more vision with some description, but all rest are just dialogue lines without any context.
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Great Episode!

ELSA Vs GARFIEL was the best part!

So, ELSA was a Vampire all along. I don't know if she's dead or not.
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the season of fucking feels my bros
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Elsa sad backstory, I wonder if she still redeemable. She was worried about Meili, I did not expect championship upon the assassin guild. When Elsa called Meili like a sister to her, did it mean Meili has a similar backstory to Elsa where she was also sexually assaulted as well?

I hope Meili doesn't get drag away to get killed a horrible fashion by that beast monster, Frederica. Since, her brother Garfiel was fiend in combat, I wonder if she the same with those vicious teeth of hers. Probably should of just left her to die by those fallen debris. Melili doesn't look redeemable herself, but I wonder if her abilities to control animals would work on those snow man-eating rabbits?

Finally Emilia trials are done, I hope we get to meet Pandora in future with her crew.
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Ah, so that answers my question on why Elsa is so damn OP. She reminds me of the true higher vampires from Witcher who can survive even after being reduced to a bloody pulp.

Wow, Ram was so beautiful when she said I love you to Rosawaal. Unfortunately, Roswaal is forever under the spell of Echidna. He's a lost cause I think.

If Ram dies, this show will instantly get a 9/10 from me.
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Elsa's being a vampire explains so much, we also learned how she became the Bowel Hunter.
Great fight between Garfiel and Elsa for sure.

Roswaal just can't accept any feelings, glad Ram took out the one thing that makes him go blind.
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3rd best episode of entire series for me (behind S1 ep 15 "the outside of madness" and S2P2 ep 11 "choose me"), but still incredible episode.
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So Elsa and Meili are sisters?.. Or just metaphorically?..
And Elsa is vampire.. As well as we get her backstory..
Well, this anime is full of one-sided love.. Well, at least Ram is enjoyable character, her feelings are interesting..
So.. Let's imagine that Ram dies.. I think she is content if she is dead, but by destroying book she manages to save Roswaal from witch's illusion?.. I think that's what she thinks here.. I hope she will be alright.. But I wouldn't be too surprised, if anime would kill Ram like this.. For forever, I mean..
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So Elsa and Meili are sisters?.. Or just metaphorically?
They were not related by blood but really close nonetheless. The story is explored more in arc 6 of the LN (most likely season 4 in the anime).

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I think she is content if she is dead, but by destroying book she manages to save Roswaal from witch's illusion?
Yes, that was her goal - to save Roswaal and free him from this delusion, that he can get Echidna back by following the Tome.
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Poll: » Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu 2nd Season Part 2 Episode 5 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

Koito91 - Feb 3, 2021

372 by gondola2357 »»
Sep 3, 12:52 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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