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| man this best anime japan offered for like 10 year recently I start to restore my hope for the anime industry can't wait for the next episode |
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swordmaster2551 said: rafaelfserafim said: So Takano is remembering what she did in Minagoroshi through all these arcs? Rika doesn't even remember Minagoroshi lmao. I thought Nomura was bailing, but Takano was bailing instead. What interested me was already revealed, about what happened in Tokyo. And some people were saying we were still on the question arcs lol. The answer arcs also end up badly. Ngl, Rika was pretty clever this time. She was sus, but needed evidence that Satoko was looping. Now all that is needed is restrain her and hammer down that shard on her neck. They both have weak bodies, but Satoko is at advantage though. I really hope that what happened in St. Lucia is shown at any part of the last arc. Honestly, they should have let Satoko be dissected at the second year. So I watched the og higurashi + kai, I know that st Lucia has been mentioned a few times this series. Is there another ova or something where we see her time at st Lucia? No we didnt even know she went there till ep2 of Gou. jTiKey said: ssjokg said: I mean her motive for leaving was explained. Now why she made a 180? Who knows....Seems like the series doesn't really care. Or maybe this is also a trick and after "defeating" Satoko, Takano returns as the true final boss. Since this world the "new" pawn's doing, makes sense that Satoko talked sense into Takano 🤣 Nah Takano just accepted defeat after a random "broccoli or cauliflower" test. |
| HOLY SHIT AMAKUSA IS THAT YOU And as suspected, Satoko is the culprit. Which explains how people like Oishi and Akasaka caught the syndrome My understanding is that Takano is obviously not being used as a piece by Lambdadelta anymore, but someone is obviously using Satoko. Who? My best guess would be Featherine, especially seeing as Hayuus horn was growing back the last time we saw her Sasuga Ryukishi, never fails to dissapoint |
FireFistYKJan 28, 2021 2:16 PM
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z00nex said: So Satoko was the looper all along? Damn that came out of nowhere. The reveal was great. There was some hints on the previous arcs, people started to give that kind of theories since 2 o 3 arcs before, and in this one started to be quite obvious when Satoko knows a lot on the "removing guts" scene. |
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kofmaster said: I was the only one who didn't think about it then I guess. I know how dumb I am so it's no surprise lol. z00nex said: So Satoko was the looper all along? Damn that came out of nowhere. The reveal was great. There was some hints on the previous arcs, people started to give that kind of theories since 2 o 3 arcs before, and in this one started to be quite obvious when Satoko knows a lot on the "removing guts" scene. |
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Medialuna said: Where did she hide the weapon? WHY WAS SHE CARRYING A WEAPON IN THE FIRST PLACE? That was so dumb lmao. I went on the forum just to ask that lol. |
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| I watched this without watching any of the previous installment, and I'm lost and confused as fuck. I feel like there's so many things unexplained yet but the plot is already moving on and new audience like me are left going in blind and wondering what the actual fuck is going on. I also feel that the first 3 arcs or the first ~10 episodes were unnecessarily long and practically useless if they were just there to set up for this part about Rika/Satako being loopers. Like what's the fucking point in starting and up til the middle of the story from Keiichi's perspective? I'm just gonna tank the rest of the episodes to the end and hope things will get explained because my enjoyment on this series so far is definitely low. |
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byams_pa said: Xystus said: I watched this without watching any of the previous installment, and I'm lost and confused as fuck. Shouldn't have.. Maybe, but we were practically lied to. Author/writer whoever that was that posted the twitter that say this is a new reboot say that we can go in as new watcher. |
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Xystus said: I watched this without watching any of the previous installment, and I'm lost and confused as fuck. I feel like there's so many things unexplained yet but the plot is already moving on and new audience like me are left going in blind and wondering what the actual fuck is going on. I also feel that the first 3 arcs or the first ~10 episodes were unnecessarily long and practically useless if they were just there to set up for this part about Rika/Satako being loopers. Like what's the fucking point in starting and up til the middle of the story from Keiichi's perspective? I'm just gonna tank the rest of the episodes to the end and hope things will get explained because my enjoyment on this series so far is definitely low. I could explain some non spoiler stuff. Well, since this is a sequel a lot of stuff have sense just if you know the whole thing, I'm 100% sure that Takano thing was a WTF for new watchers for example. The first 3 arcs was thinking for old watchers, those arcs are "remakes" of previous loops with some twists and hints pointing on a different direction. About the Keiichi perspective, that's how Higurashi always worked, the "main character" is Rika, but that wasn't revelated until later, in the first arc, Keiichi was infected and he looked everyone as an enemy that wanted to kill him, that was the started bait in order to make you reach to a wrong conclusion (thinking that the whole town was crazy and stuff like that to get you away from the truth). So Keiichi being the main character on the first Question arc is a bait and a help for mistery issues for the readers, since Keiichi is a newcomer he needs info about what's happening or the characters/town's past. |
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Jin_uzuki said: Tbh "witches made me do it" is almost as bad as "I put you through an inhuman torture because I was lonely :(". It's called "Lazy plot called for it" |
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| Can someone here on MAL finally approve the change to SEQUEL, please? I submitted that change like 5 times by now and Kai has not only been completely spoiled, but nothing that happened makes sense if you haven't seen the OG + Kai or read the VN ._. So we were right about Satoko after all, it was kinda obvious cause she's been acting so extremely weird ever since this new show started. Ah by the way, this is also something no one who's new to Higurashi would've picked up on :) I'm honestly kinda mad that this was marketed as a reboot and nobody listend to everyone who told them that this wasn't great for newcomers. I've seen so many people regret not watching the previous seasons by now. |
StormxNightmareJan 28, 2021 12:40 PM
There's no possible way you can steal my heart    I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
| I almost screamed at the end because I swear upon Oyashiro sama that is fucking Lambda. Knew I was smelling Witch ever since the anime aired. (If anyone is interested in doing Umineko go fuck with the manga or visual novel. The anime is trash) |
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| Re: Umineko stuff, I still feel like even after this episode, other than the Featherine(?) silhouette in the OP, nothing has hinted at Umineko at all (unless "spooky red eyes" is supposed to mean something). |
| Ah, I forgot to mention this, but this is my prediction: It's Satoko and Hanyuu. She left Rika to work with Satoko to get her to stay. It's dumb, but wouldn't suprise me at this point. Even tho her telling Rika about the shard wouldn't make sense then, so scratch that ig. And where is Shion? She hasn't really been there except for the lake scene. Also, @jaw201 Literally 90% of the people who are familiar with Higurashi suspected Satoko sice like 3 arcs ago, so get off your high horse. I didn't say anything in the last few discussions, but the way you're acting like everyone else is just to dumb to get it is pretentious at best ._. |
StormxNightmareJan 28, 2021 12:56 PM
There's no possible way you can steal my heart I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
| Probably one of my favorite episodes from this season both context and progression wise. At this point if you don t have at least a bit of understanding about Umineko s gimmiks its like watching this from an anime only's perspective even if you're like an OG watcher of the series (but with more context on the characters and overall target) Ryukishi u sly fox... Can't wait to see how this will be going further from now on. |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
swordmaster2551 said: Damn so we never get to see that? I was wondering how after her win she ended up back in hinamizawa looping again Sadly. The only times we saw the Rika St. Lucia stuff was only the very small flashback bits of Gou. I'm interested in that as well so I'm hoping for an eventual ova or perhaps more context for that stuff in the future of Gou. Might be unlikely but it would definitely be interesting |
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| Great EP, but now i'm really sad at the fact that everyone's arc were remade with a lil' spin so it wasn't like their previous versions, but there's no Rena arc at all ( Tsumihoroboshi-hen) Like, in the ending appeared things like the rivalry of mion and shion, satoko's abussive uncle, keiichi hitting satokos uncle and rena's drunk dad. But seeing that satokowashi-hen will be the last one, makes me wonder a ton. |
kofmaster said: Xystus said: I watched this without watching any of the previous installment, and I'm lost and confused as fuck. I feel like there's so many things unexplained yet but the plot is already moving on and new audience like me are left going in blind and wondering what the actual fuck is going on. I also feel that the first 3 arcs or the first ~10 episodes were unnecessarily long and practically useless if they were just there to set up for this part about Rika/Satako being loopers. Like what's the fucking point in starting and up til the middle of the story from Keiichi's perspective? I'm just gonna tank the rest of the episodes to the end and hope things will get explained because my enjoyment on this series so far is definitely low. I could explain some non spoiler stuff. Well, since this is a sequel a lot of stuff have sense just if you know the whole thing, I'm 100% sure that Takano thing was a WTF for new watchers for example. The first 3 arcs was thinking for old watchers, those arcs are "remakes" of previous loops with some twists and hints pointing on a different direction. About the Keiichi perspective, that's how Higurashi always worked, the "main character" is Rika, but that wasn't revelated until later, in the first arc, Keiichi was infected and he looked everyone as an enemy that wanted to kill him, that was the started bait in order to make you reach to a wrong conclusion (thinking that the whole town was crazy and stuff like that to get you away from the truth). So Keiichi being the main character on the first Question arc is a bait and a help for mistery issues for the readers, since Keiichi is a newcomer he needs info about what's happening or the characters/town's past. After listening to you and random_weirdo, I feel like they butchered the whole Keiichi's part in this series because it was executed so badly here. Too little explanation given for both the characters and the story. |
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| I was confused a bit just like Rika. Satoko was acting kinda suspiciously and a part of me at the end was like "I knew it!!!" Tho where did she get a gun and hide it?! Overall was an okay episode ^^ |
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| Forgot that we need a good explanation for Lambda doing this if she is involved. "i was bored" isnt gonna cut it. |
| So much for the "evil satoko is a ruse" theory, she even has the red eyes. And she can summon guns from the void too! Just when I was thinking that we havent seen Dark Rikas Bernkastel side in a long time.. (IIRC Bernkastel was also only ever named in Higurashi Rei) dont know what to think of this, Rika having a looping enemy is certainly interesting, I dont think its necessary after she managed to win in the end of Kai to bring this all back though. Why cant she finally reach a peaceful world? What is the goal of whoever controls satoko? First she convinces Rika that life is good then she kills her? Maybe Im just too afraid of this going down the drain. With a bunch of episodes left the plot could still go anywhere. Now that Rika knows Satoko loops too.. I feel bad for all the newcomers who got tricked into thinking this isnt a sequel. Really Takanos apology completely ruins the suspense of Kai. PS: The worst thing is this isnt even a proper sequel since it skips the part where Rika leaves hinamizawa, which is supposedly the reason for why Rika has to go through this now. If you just watched the anime there is nothing indicating Rika ever leaving the village.. PPS: I really want Rika to go all "higurashi rei" on Satoko again now. @Xystus I dont think it can get worse for spoilers, but I would suggest putting this on hold and going back to watch the original shows first. |
Comander-07Jan 28, 2021 1:45 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| okay so it's cool that we finally have some kind of confirmation that satoko indeed a culprit in this series (or a pawn of some main culprit) and it could have been a cool idea and make an interesting story BUT this season was done SO BADLY i don't feel like rewatching the previous episodes that felt like a remake of OG higu with only small changes, to catch hints of satoko looping (assuming there were hints, aside from the most recent episodes where it was pretty much certain) so many episodes felt WASTED and the grand revelation this episodes was so DUMB lol satoko acted as if getting hit by that jack in the box was so traumatic and painful like the stuff that happened to her bc of teppei LOL and that gun out of nowhere the creepy eyes look dumb too, they looked dumb on rika earlier and meh, all of the execution makes this plot twist so cheap and bad ....i still want to know what the truth behind the stuff happening in this season is, but... every episode makes me roll my eyes ALSO. telling the newcomers it's safe to start with gou was a DICK MOVE from the author. it was funny after the first ep when we were all trolled and surprised because we were convinved it was a remake, BUT after that, there REALLY has been some serious statement for the newcomers to GO BACK to OG GOU SUCKS btw. i just thought: the opening lyrics make more sense now. "i've been closer to you than anyone, i felt your happiness and tears" or something like that, "she wanted it all" satoko did apparently. |
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Xystus said: kofmaster said: I could explain some non spoiler stuff. Well, since this is a sequel a lot of stuff have sense just if you know the whole thing, I'm 100% sure that Takano thing was a WTF for new watchers for example. The first 3 arcs was thinking for old watchers, those arcs are "remakes" of previous loops with some twists and hints pointing on a different direction. About the Keiichi perspective, that's how Higurashi always worked, the "main character" is Rika, but that wasn't revelated until later, in the first arc, Keiichi was infected and he looked everyone as an enemy that wanted to kill him, that was the started bait in order to make you reach to a wrong conclusion (thinking that the whole town was crazy and stuff like that to get you away from the truth). So Keiichi being the main character on the first Question arc is a bait and a help for mistery issues for the readers, since Keiichi is a newcomer he needs info about what's happening or the characters/town's past. After listening to you and random_weirdo, I feel like they butchered the whole Keiichi's part in this series because it was executed so badly here. Too little explanation given for both the characters and the story. I think the main reason to that was the second episode that already shows that Rika is the main character and state for old watchers that this is a sequel (Rika talk about stuff that happened on the second season), but you're still following the old arcs with some twists so they kept the Keiichi's perspective because that's how the old arcs worked, but skipping a lot of explanations because "old watchers already knows". It's really confusing some details if you didn't watched the old show/manga/visual novel. When they said that new watchers could start fresh with this, was one of the biggest trolling moves i saw lol. |
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| Satoko being the culprit and looper doesn't make sense given her character, suggesting this really is just a completely different Hinamizawa altogether and the Rika from the end of "Dice-Killing" is living her life as she pleases while Bernkastel... somehow got stuck back in the loop despite being cast out. Takano not bothering to explain to Rika her own thought-process and instead saying "You wouldn't understand" is just the easy way out of saying "Lol you don't deserve an answer to everything you've been forced to go through." Unless the whole point of Gou was we're getting both the origin story of Bernkastel and Lambdadelta (or at least how they met) which then acts as a bridge to Umineko, this all just feels like a cop-out filler to appease Higurashi/Umineko fans who wanted a new anime. But with the added bonus of Ryukishi going the way of Hideaki Anno in showing his displeasure toward the fanbase by burning it all down before their faces while waving around a giant middle finger knowing his fanbase was still going to grovel and kiss his toes. Also the glowing eyes to show the difference between personalities is the dumbest direction to have taken in animation since I guess coming up with unique facial expressions is hard and there needs to be a cheap way to scare the viewers. Bernkastel has a stony, apathetic, cold look to her whenever she revealed herself in both the sound novel and original anime, she never had glowy eyes to show the audience (and possibly also the characters in-story, but I seriously think it's just for the audience) "This isn't who you think it is". If Satoko is Lambda all along here, the crazy twisted personality should show through instead of giving her the same damn glowing eyes Rika has. The new ED better slap, the OP and ED have honestly been the only things keeping me coming back since I like the songs, and the pictures in the ED are really gorgeous. |
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| I wonder how much of what Satoko did was faked, and how much of it was real. I'm unsure how one can kill their friends trying to help them, and then act like it's all peachy the next time you see them. Maybe these next episodes will change our POV. |
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PlayMaker22 said: ssjokg said: Such a stupid way to blow her cover. If at least it was shown that it hurt like hell in that episode this reaction would make sense. ????????? So if I saw a chewing gum similar to the electric ones they made a prank of on me I can't be afraid of it because it didn't have a 1 million volt shock? Well, I think I'll remember it in the future I would be lying if I said I was expecting some better reply from you or jaw; I am not Ryukishi, have no reason to lie to you. |
PlayMaker22 said: ssjokg said: I would be lying if I said I was expecting some better reply from you or jaw; I am not Ryukishi, have no reason to lie to you. I would be lying if I said I was expecting some good critics or intelligent comments, but hey, we are in MAL! It's better to nitpick or to create on your own reasons to be right I guess I mean.... You certainly aren't wrong. |
Call me an idiot, but unless we have proof that Satoko is the mastermind behind all of these incidents, you can't claim that she is the culprit. Also remember that the loopers are victims of logic errors. This probably means that got logic errored, which is why she is looping in the first place. I'm not sure why Rika is still looping, but the previous episode makes much more sense if you think about it. |
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